97th Anniversary of Fatima Apparitions: Russia-Ukraine-Consecration…
OPEN LETTER
TO
POPE FRANCIS
Holy Father, The World Needs Your Intervention!
Consecrate Russia as Our Lady Requested
Russia and the United States, both armed with nuclear weapons, are engaged in a growing conflict over events in Ukraine. Now is the time to honor Our Lady’s request for Russia’s consecration to Her Immaculate Heart in order to bring peace to the whole world.
As Our Lady promised at Fatima: “If My requests are granted, many souls will be saved and there will be peace.”
Most Holy Father:
Nearly one hundred years ago the Mother of God appeared to three shepherd children at Fatima, Portugal and told them Heaven’s plan for peace: “I shall come to ask for the consecration of Russia to My Immaculate Heart, and the Communion of reparation on the First Saturdays. If My requests are heeded, Russia will be converted, and there will be peace; if not, she will spread her errors throughout the world, causing wars and persecutions of the Church. The good will be martyred; the Holy Father will have much to suffer; various nations will be annihilated.”
Some have heeded Our Lady’s request for the First Saturday devotion, but the Consecration of Russia to the Immaculate Heart remains undone. By this Open Letter we petition Your Holiness for the Consecration of Russia. The urgency and absolute necessity of this act cannot be overstated, as we hope to demonstrate to Your Holiness. Click here to read entire Open Letter from Fatima Center
Comment
On this, the 97th anniversary of the first Fatima apparition, we should pray especially for the situation in Ukraine and for the graces needed for the Pope to obey God’s wishes for the Consecration of Russia, as revealed through Our Lady of Fatima. Let’s pray, too, that Fr Gruner’s Open Letter bears fruit. If it can bring forward the glorious day when the Consecration will be performed, that is, perhaps, about all we can expect at this stage in the Fatima-prophesied “diabolical disorientation” afflicting the upper hierarchy.
Happy Feast Day to all our bloggers. Our Lady of Fatima, pray for us
Comments (48)
Not to be a wet blanket regarding Fr. Gruner’s angst over the Ukraine, but perhaps he should have read these 2 articles about this “crisis” before trying to get some leverage out of it:
http://www.thenewamerican.com/world-news/europe/item/17927-ukraine-unraveling-the-planned-chaos
http://www.thenewamerican.com/economy/item/18207-imf-bailout-for-ukraine-and-a-new-world-currency
I was also surprised that Father refers to JPII as “Blessed,” writing several days after the “canonization”! Oops! Anyone doing any proofreading over at the Fatima Center?
That said (I’m through nitpicking now, Editor), it is certainly paramount that Pope Francis perform the Consecration of Russia. However, reality tells us that the very same forces that are arrayed against the normalization of the SSPX are also arrayed against this Papal act. In fact, we may conclude without too much of a stretch that is was these same forces who “convinced” the Pope to “entrust” the World to Mary last October 13 rather than to perform a “Consecration.”
Whoever performs the Consecration will be martyred, and Pope Francis doesn’t strike me as the sort of man who has any desire for martyrdom. But that martyrdom will mean the end of the Masonic occupation of the Church, the conversion of Russia, the release of the Third Secret, and the beginning of the “period of peace.”
Great Pretender,
I think it’s very obvious that Russia is behind the unrest
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-27369980
They are stoking the fires and spreading their errors, as Our Lady foretold.
The novus ordo ” church” is Not Catholic, neither do any of the groups after Vatican 2 Council like sspx… have the life of the One, Holy Catholic Apostolic Church. Read Mystici Corporis encyclical. So only a TRUE Pope can consecrate Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary and this will be done but too too late after the Chastisement. Untill then let us dot deny the Catholic Religion but profess it and practice it, and leave the rest in the hands of the Blessed Virgin Mary. She alone can help us and restore the Reign of Her Divine Son and Catholic Monarchy. WE MUST PRAY, FOR PRAYER CAN CHANGE HEARTS AND MINDS; TRUST JESUS AND MARY AND ST JOSEPH and Catholic POPES PRIOR TO 1958 and the SAINTS ONLY.
Editor: this is the position of those who are termed “sedevacantists” – it is not the position of this blog. We reject the above thesis out of hand. Pope Francis, proving to be one of the worst ever pontiffs in the history of the Church, is, nevertheless, a true pope as were all the popes since Vatican II. Please, Bonnie, do not continue with this propaganda, as all such future posts will be deleted. If you would like me to email you some articles disproving the sedevacantist position, I will do so, but cannot enter into any discussion by email. If you wish to email me to request the essays, I will email them to you, with my good wishes. End of.
Please note, I would ask bloggers not to respond to Bonnie’s post. The difference between a terrorist and a sedevacantist is that you can negotiate with the terrorist. The old ones are the best 😀
Great Pretender,
I’ve read both your links but don’t see anything that changes my mind about the Russian pitch for Ukraine. The west is definitely flailing around and likely to do all it can to stop Russia taking more land and if that can be done by saving the Ukraine economy, they’ll do it, but the fact is that Putin has overseen the annexation of Crimea and he is very likely also overseeing the show of “people power” in the organising of the referenda and uprisings on the streets. Just because there are political motives and so on doesn’t change the fact that Russia is being aggressive. I think the Consecration of Russia is ever more urgent and I hope Fr Gruner’s letter has an effect.
However, I am very disappointed that Fr Gruner called John Paul II “blessed”. I can remember the petition organised by The Remnant to stop the beatification, yet they also refer to “Blessed” JP II. I presume now they will all call him “Saint”.
That is very disappointing about “Blessed” John Paul. I think Father Gruner thinks he has to tread a fine line to get the Fatima message across in the Vatican.
Michaela and Josephine,
The point of those two Great American articles was this: it’s all about the money. Specifically, about tightening the control of money by the New World Order and the devaluation of national currencies. We may be distracted by the spectacles put on for public consumption, but when you lift the rug and look underneath, there is something else going on. In my opinion, Father Gruner is absolutely correct to keep hammering away at the Pope to perform the Consecration, but he should also know better than to use the Ukraine sideshow as a basis for a renewed urgency. The only urgency the Pope should need is that he, and several of his predecessors, are disobeying the request of Heaven. That’s not a very good place to be for a Vicar of Christ on earth…
Great Pretender,
I’ve been hearing from a Ukrainian friend that her mother, a doctor, earns pennies, in stark contrast to the high salaries enjoyed by medical staff here and in the USA. So, of course, “it’s all about the money” in one sense.
But I’m surprised that you appear to be saying that Fr Gruner has got it wrong and that although Russia is an aggressive nation, the Ukraine crisis is a mere “sideshow”. At least one traditional priest told me fairly recently that he is watching developments in the Ukraine with a very worried eye, conscious of the Fatima Message. He’s actually got two eyes, so I don’t know why he said that 😯
I’m afraid, taking Our Lady’s concerns about the spread of Russia’s errors, I, too, sit up when the Russian President as much as goes to his front door to bring in his morning bread and milk. I would expect Fr Gruner to be no less vigilant. Does the Kremlin have a front door?
Seriously, though, and with respect, I think it is a simplification too far to conflate the whole thing to the machinations of the “new world order” gurus. Our Lady didn’t mention them. She did mention Russia and so I’m not inclined to think that Fr Gruner has got it wrong by his vigilance in watching political developments involving that aggressive Government.
I do agree that emphasis should be put on the disobedience of successive popes (at least two of them “canonised saints” – yeah right…) who had the authority and the power to obey Our Lady’s (and thus God’s) request for the Consecration of Russia long ago, no matter what the state of politics appears to be. Not so long ago we had the pseudo-Fatima brigade extolling the virtues of Russia as a now democratic and peaceful nation. Yes, about as democratic and peaceful as the USA under Obama, no offence intended, GP! Recent developments in the Crimea/Ukraine have put that “peaceful and democratic” Russia to rest. Now back to the Real Russia.
Anyway, today’s a great day to storm Heaven with pleas for special graces for Pope Francis to see the gravity of the situation, which, whatever the underlying political and economic causes of the Ukraine crisis, has been highlighted, big time, by Russia’s involvement in that part of the world.
We will now all stand and sing hymn number 24… 😀
Happy Feast Day
Madame Editor,
A propos the open letter from Fr. Grüner about the growing tension in Ukraine, and his renewed appeal for the Consecration of Russia, I see that the SSPX web site is carrying a link to the letter and to an online petition form here:
http://www.sspx.co.uk/page_latest_news.htm
Leprechaun,
Many thanks for the link to the petition – I have now signed it.
Also, in case anyone misses it, enjoy the Catholic Truth recording of the Fatima hymn which is on our website homepage, now reproduced here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnhR797T9XM
Happy Feast day everyone!
Happy Feast day!
Editor,
Where did you find that wonderful organist? He or she is superb!
Petrus,
Yes, he is a wonderful organist. Unfortunately he is very expensive – wiped us out!
As you will see, folks, if you click through to the original YouTube page, we thank both Peter (organist) and Rebecca (singer) for their time and talents.
Clue: Petrus / Peter…. 😀
That reminds me of an old joke, Editor, the answer to which I cannot post, but here is the question:
“Why did JS Bach have so many children?”
GP,
I had to Google your question in order to find the answer so I am very glad that you didn’t post the answer here. Thanks for that.
Leprechaun
Was there not a motion put before the European Parliament by an American lawyer and a Euro MP for the consecration to be carried out?
I wonder what happened to it.
Frankier,
I have e-mailed Monica Tomassini at info@fatima.it quoting the names of the two sponsors of the motion on October 23rd 2012 and asking her to provide me with an update of the outcome.
When it arrives, I will post it here for all to read.
Lep
Thanks. Well done.
Frankier,
I am pleased to have received a reply from M/s Tomassini about the motion put before the European Parliament for the consecration of Russia to the Immaculate heart of Mary.
This is what she says:
So there you have it. Amen to that.
Happy Feast – I love that beautiful hymn, beautifully sung!
I forgot to say “happy feast day” in my posts above, and I will listen to the hymn now.
Please can everyone who blogs here – if they are not doing them already – consider starting the First Five Saturday devotion and continue doing it until Russia is consecrated. Sr Lucia did them right up until she died. Certainly, the Pope and Bishops must consecrate Russia, but with the Fatima message, we must also do our bit, and Sister Lucia has told us that many souls will be saved through this devotion. Also, please get others to do this devotion as well. A blessed feast day of Our Lady of Fatima to all of you. If you want to tune into the webcam and join in the international rosary at Fatima tonight, the link is here:- http://www.santuario-fatima.pt/portal/index.php?id=14924
Westminster Fly,
Many thanks for that push for us all to make the First Five Saturdays and to spread this devotion. This is the best possible day on which to make that resolution.
How do people who refuse to attend the NO Mass practice the Five First Saturdays?
The one I normally go to when I am able has the Devotion to the Divine Mercy, albeit at 2.00 pm to allow the far travelled priests time to get back home to say vigil Masses.
What is the situation again for those who have no “devotion” to this Devotion?
Or do the SSPX have the FFSs?
Frankier,
When Our Lady asked for the First Five Saturdays, there WAS no NO Mass, so you can take it that we make the First Five Saturdays by attending the traditional Latin Mass provided by the SSPX who, of course, promote this devotion.
Frankier
In the magnificent “The Whole Truth About Fatima” trilogy by Frere Michel de la Saint Trinite, it says this:-
3. THE COMMUNION OF REPARATION ON THE FIRST SATURDAYS
The Communion of reparation, of course, is the most important act of the devotion of reparation. All the other acts centre around it. To understand its meaning and significance, it must be considered in relation with the miraculous Communion of autumn 1916; already this communion was completely oriented to the idea of reparation,thanks to the words of the Angel. The Communion of reparation must also be considered in relation to the Communion on the nine First Fridays of the month, requested by the Sacred Heart at Paray-le-Monial.
Someone might object: to receive Communion on the first Saturday of five consecutive months is almost impossible for many of the faithful, who have no Mass in their parish on that day… Such is the question Father Gonçalves, Lucy’s confessor, put to her in a letter of May 29, 1930:
«If one cannot fulfil all the conditions on a Saturday, can it be done on Sunday? People in the country, for example, will not be able very often, because they live quite far away…»
Our Lord gave the answer to Sister Lucy during the night of May 29-30, 1930: «The practice of this devotion will be equally acceptable on the Sunday following the first Saturday when My priests, for a just cause, allow it to souls.» Thus not only the Communion, but also the recitation of the Rosary and meditation on the mysteries can be transferred to Sunday, for just motives of which priests are left the judges. It is easy to ask for this permission in confession. Note once again the Catholic, ecclesial character of the message of Fatima. It is to His priests, and not to the individual conscience, that Jesus gives the responsibility of granting this additional concession.
After so many concessions, who could still claim that he was unable to fulfil the requests of the Virgin Mary? END OF QUOTE.
Note, Our Lord said here that the Communion can be transferred to the Sunday ‘for a just cause’. Our Lord also states that it must be allowed by a priest, so I suggest that you put this matter to a priest. I guess the answer will depend very much on which priest you see!
Re: the Confession, from the same source, Sr Lucia states :- ““My Jesus! Many souls find it difficult to confess on Saturday. Will You allow a confession within eight days to be valid?”
– “Yes. It can even be made later on, provided that the souls are in the state of grace when they receive Me on the first Saturday, and that they had the intention of making reparation to the Sacred Heart of Mary.”
– “My Jesus! And those who forget to form this intention?”
– “They can form it at the next confession, taking advantage of their first opportunity to go to confession.”
Hope this is of help.
Westminster Fly,
I can’t thank you enough for that post. I have tried and tried to make the First Five Saturdays and something always prevents me from doing all five. I am about to have another try, but if I fail again, I will speak to my priest.
Westminster
After reading Editor`s reply to my post of 10.27am I re-read my own and I realise I may not have made it plain enough what I actually wished to know.
While I appreciate that, as Ed says, there were no NO Masses when Our Lady asked for the devotion of the Five First Saturdays there is no doubt that She knew there would be such Masses in the future which, I would assume, would be part of the diabolical disorientation She talked about.
There is a problem though which I would like someone to explain.
Just a few weeks ago there was a discussion regarding the attendance or non-attendance of the NO Masses and there was a suggestion that it was preferable to stay at home instead and read the bible and say the rosary, etc.
I admitted that I do attend them, having no TLM within a radius of 50 miles, as the alternative would be to stop attending church altogether. To me, that would be the end of the line and there is no saying how it would eventually pan out.
I also attend, when I can, the First Saturday devotions in the only church in the diocese (Galloway) that hosts them. There is obviously the NO Mass, exposition of The Blessed Sacrament, The Divine Mercy devotions, rosary and benediction and confessions.
If I had taken the advice to stop attending the NO Masses, as some people seem to have done, how could I have fulfilled our Lady`s request for the First Saturday devotions?
Or am I wasting my time in going?
How also can anyone who gives up going to the NO Masses fulfil their Easter duties, receive ashes, go to confessions, visit exposition
or even attend baptisms, weddings or funerals?
It`s like telling someone who complains about the odour from a farmer`s field to just hold their breath until they are a couple of miles away.
If Our Lady only wishes Her FFSs to be celebrated at TLMs then I`m
afraid we`re going to be in for a longer haul than we all thought, considering that these Masses, especially in Scotland are few and far between.
Hi Frankier,
I didn’t see the earlier thread you referred to, and obviously cannot speak for anyone else on this blog, so what I am about to write is my opinion only. I’m sure many will disagree with me, but there you have it. I don’t think you are wasting your time going, and would strongly urge you to continue. If your dispositions, desires and intentions are right, then I’m sure you will receive graces. It’s not your fault you can’t get to a TLM, and God only expects us to do the best under the circumstances we find ourselves in.
Sr Lucia of Fatima could only attend the Novus Ordo, and continued to do so all her life, making the First Saturday devotion right up until she died, and she knew more about the diabolical disorientation than most – it was Our Lady who told her that it was going to happen! But Sr Lucia didn’t sit in her cell and refuse point blank to attend the sacraments, nor did she make any effort to be transferred to a traditional community of nuns, which, I guess, she could have done. Her writings indicate that she felt she was in the place that God had called her to – the Coimbra Carmel.
Yes, it’s true she was under obedience, but surely, if she truly believed that it would have been a sin for her to attend the Novus Ordo, or a source of bad example to others, being such an internationally well-known and revered figure, then I’m sure she would not have obeyed, or knowingly set a bad public example, or advised others to continue to attend the Novus Ordo.
I don’t go to the Novus Ordo any more, I am fortunate that I can get to a TLM every Saturday and Sunday (and sometimes in the week) with relative ease. If there ever comes a day when that is not possible for whatever reason, I have thought about this, and if I can get to a reverent Novus Ordo Mass, said according to rubrics, and not some DIY freak show, then I think I would. The thought of cutting myself off from the sacraments completely is too frightening to contemplate. Others might feel strong enough to do that, but personally, I don’t.
Westminster Fly,
I’d like to address some of the points you make about Sister Lucia attending the novus ordo.
Firstly, as I’ve said elsewhere on this matter, she was bound by her vow of obedience and was not in a position to refuse to attend the new Mass. To argue that “if she truly believed that it would have been a sin for her to attend the Novus Ordo, or a source of bad example to others, being such an internationally well-known and revered figure, then I’m sure she would not have obeyed, or knowingly set a bad public example, or advised others to continue to attend the Novus Ordo.” is to presume that she had that knowledge.
We do not know how much detail Our Lady gave Sister Lucia, of the crisis in the Church. It’s only in recent years that I’ve heard the arguments about the objective sinfulness of attending a novus ordo Mass myself. In Carmel, there are no newspapers, and information from outside is restricted. The likelihood is that the Mass being celebrated at the Carmel was not of the “clown Mass” variety and, as a humble nun, Sister Lucia would attend in a spirit of faith and obedience.
It is a mistake, however, to see her attendance at the novus ordo as an endorsement of it. That would be akin to saying that she endorsed the silence of the Vatican on the Third Secret, and that she endorsed the Pope’s failure to consecrate Russia. These failures were undoubtedly a source of much suffering for her, but she didn’t “go public” with her concerns. That is not the Carmelite way, nor was it her duty or responsibility to make the Vatican act. Her task was to pass on the Message(s) faithfully. She did that and left the rest to God.
Sister Lucia’s mission was to pass on the message she received from Our Lady, in its three parts. Her hidden life in Carmel prevented anything more, which is no doubt why she was drawn to it. Carmel is (or was) the strictest Order in the Church, the only Order established for the express purpose of allowing the nuns to be enclosed, with minimal contact with the outside world, in order to be “alone with Jesus”. Every Carmelite has a plain black cross on her cell wall, because she is expected to be that figure on the cross, uniting her sufferings to that of Jesus in His Passion and Death.
We don’t know how much Sister Lucia suffered by attending the new Mass but I do not believe her encouragement to make the First Saturdays equates to an endorsement of the new Mass. She knew, as we do, that God sees the heart and knows our intentions. She did what she was asked to do – pass on the message(s) from heaven and offer her life to God for her own sanctification (and remember, Carmelites are especially committed to praying and suffering for the souls of priests) – no Religious can achieve sanctification without obeying their Superiors.
One last thing; you say that Our Lady would know about the new Mass to come when she asked for the First Saturdays devotion, hence would have known about the new Mass, but we must always remember that although God knows the future, knows the decisions we will make, He always leaves us free to act, there is always the grace available to us to do the right thing. Hence, at that time, prior to the Council, it is at least doubtful that Our Lady would disclose future decisions and failures of the upper hierarchy to Sister Lucia (or anyone else).
In any event, Sister Lucia’s mission was not to warn us against the new Mass. God sent us the SSPX to do that, as Our Lady promised at Quito: “pray that My son will send a prelate to restore the priesthood”. Enter Archbishop Lefebvre. Which brings us full square back to the truth that there can be no question about it; the true worship desired and willed by God for us is the Traditional Latin Mass.
Frankier,
I see that Westminster Fly has replied to you, assuring you that you are not wasting your time by making the First Saturdays by attending the NO Mass. I don’t think anyone – certainly not me – would suggest that you are wasting your time. Far from it. God sees the heart and knows your intention. I thought I had made that clear in my response, that if anyone is going to be held to account for the damage done to souls by the new Mass, for the confusion caused, it will be the clergy and hierarchy, especially the modern popes. I say that so routinely that I can’t imagine that I haven’t made that clear to you at some point in my responses.
My own position when asked about attending NO Masses is always that while I have reached a stage where I could not, in conscience, participate in a new Mass, beyond courtesy attendance at a wedding or funeral, I am reluctant to interfere in the conscience of another. Click here to read a thoroughly documented review of the novus ordo, it’s origin, content, etc.
Having said that, I have to add that the new Mass is not just a harmless little service, Frankier, something that we can take or leave. Something that is OK if we can’t find a TLM – we are talking about the true worship of God. No small thing.
We all need, therefore, to educate ourselves on the new Mass and then decide whether by attending it, we are pleasing God. The above link goes to one of several very good articles on the problems with the novus ordo which may help to clarify matters for you.
I have friends who find it a real tussle with their consciences because they do not want to attend the NO, but are afraid to stop for fear of their children abandoning the Mass-going habit. So, I completely understand your struggle.
I also fully appreciate your difficulty, living in the Diocese of Galloway – a spiritual desert to beat even the other spiritual deserts in Scotland. Frank Duff, founder of the Legion of Mary once told me that Aberdeen was the worst diocese in the entire world – he was pointing to a map of the world at the time, marked with places around the globe where Legion extension workers (I was working as a full time extension worker in Scotland at the time) and envoys were placed. When I reached Galloway, I remember thinking that here was a close second to Aberdeen. So, believe me, I do sympathise.
However, we do have people who travel from Ayrshire to our Mass every week in Glasgow. I do remember you saying that your work prevents that, and (if my memory is correct) that you don’t drive, so depend on public transport. I don’t mean to push you, but just for your information, there are people who attend the SSPX Mass in Edinburgh (1pm Sundays) travelling by public transport. There are always, too, Masses in either Glasgow or Edinburgh on Saturday mornings, 11.a.m. so we can usually make the First Saturdays, all other things being equal.
That’s not to say that the above paragraph applies to you. I fully understand that family, work and transport problems can combine to make it impossible to make the journey from Galloway to either Edinburgh or Glasgow, but, generally speaking, Scotland is a small country and most of us can reach a TLM if determined to do so.
One more thing. When I wrote to each of the Scottish Bishops on publication of Summorum Pontificum, your Bishop, John Cunningham, was one of the few who replied (I think he was the only one who replied, in fact) and he replied to say that he found my letter interesting because he’d not had a single request for the old rite Mass from any parishioner in his diocese, so it may help a little if you write to him to say you really do wish to have this provision – if you can encourage others to say they would attend as well, then you may make him think, and he may feel forced to organise provision. I had a lady on the phone yesterday praising Bishop Cunningham as one of the better Scots Bishops, so this would be a test for him.
This response is already too long so I will say a few words about Sr Lucia and the new Mass in response to Westminster Fly.
Hello, anyone out there?
Yes, Frankier, I’m out here – how may I help you?
Happy feast day to everyone. It is a sorry state of affairs that Russia has still not been consecrated by the Pope and Bishops. They need reminding of the Fatima message, and, as you say Westminsterfly starting the First Five Saturdays and the Rosary.
Thanks, leprechaun, for your link, I too, have signed the petition.
I had a telephone call from a priest a short while ago telling me about this news story. Apparently, it made it into The Times.
Well, folks, for about two seconds I toyed with the idea of devoting a thread to it, but almost immediately I dismissed the idea on the grounds that this is just one more piece of ‘Pope Francis nonsense’ to underline the diabolical disorientation prophesied at Fatima, and the fact that, without a shadow of a doubt, it reaches right to the top, as Cardinal Ciappi warned is revealed in the Third Secret.
Truly, you couldn’t make it up.
Mad!
Petrus,
I agree, it is totally mad.
I listened to the hymn – it was beautiful. Great organist, BTW!
Adam, Eve and ET. CTS was very open to the idea, and published a booklet in their Catholicism Explanations series by Guy Consolmagno SJ, of the Vatican Observatory. It said exactly the same things. It was mentioned in a post that I wrote for this blog on the theme of extraterrestrials:
http://catholictruthblog.com/2014/02/04/is-belief-in-extra-terrestrial-life-diabolical-alien-to-catholicism/
Oh well, at least Pope Francis has that good old Jesuit missionary spirit. But I am confused? Didn’t Saint John Paul II apologise for the evangelisation of indigenous peoples? Why would our intelligent space friends be any different? They wouldn’t, and forcing our religion on them as Pope Francis suggests is a form of cosmic cultural colonialism!
The obsession with extraterrestrial life in our society is the result of an existential crisis, a spiritual loneliness. The result of a spiritually sterile culture, atheistic materialism, scientism etc.. The Catholic Church is adapting Her theology, to what is thought to be science, but is really Godlessness.
Miles Immaculatae,
Well said. It’s beyond belief, literally, that any pope would give credence to the ET baloney of our times. As you say, it is not science, but Godlessness. With bells on…
Its seems the Pope would be happy to baptise Martians. I suspect the same generosity would not be given the Pelagians however.
And they’ll only get baptised if they promise never to follow that silly “fashion” of wanting to attend the TLM. Gimme strength!
Thanks to everyone who contributed to this Feast Day thread. Let’s keep praying for the Consecration of Russia and the full disclosure of the Third Secret.
Since this is not exclusively a Feast Day thread, I’ll leave it open for a bit longer, just in case Putin goes out to collect his milk and bread again… 😀
Testing
Frankier,
You sure can be but I like you anyway 😀
Madame Editor,
History is not my best subject but I seem to remember Our Lord asking in 1692 for France to be dedicated to his Sacred Heart. Subsequent appeals were made but nothing was done.
One hundred years later to the day, the then king of France was beheaded following the revolution.
I have heard mention of other instances where a one hundred year period of grace was given.
Our Lady made her appeal at Fatima in 1917, on May 13th, and in less than 3 years time we shall arrive at the end of another one hundred years – May 13th 2017.
There is no visible sign of pope Francis being about to heed Our Lady’s 1917 appeal.
Do other bloggers have a view on whether May 13th 2017 will be of significance?
Leprechaun,
I often think about the 100th anniversary of Fatima and compare it to the 100th anniversary of Our Lord’s request for the consecration of France to His Sacred Heart.
I definitely hold the opinion that if nothing has happened by then, that God will send us some kind of chastisement for the anniversary of the Fatima apparitions, and definitely some punishment for the pope.
I think this especially because Jesus told Sr Lucia that the pope would suffer the same fate as the King of France if he followed their example. He said “Tell my ministers that if they follow the example of the King of France they will follow him into misfortune.” http://www.fatima.org/essentials/facts/rianjo.asp
It is frightening to think that we are so close to the anniversary.
Not necessarily Leprechaun . . . if the Consecration isn’t done, and if any chastisement is going to happen 100 years to the day, it could equally be 100 years from June 13th 1929, when Our Lady revealed to Sr Lucia that ‘the moment has come’ for the consecration. Our Lady originally told Sr Lucia on July 13th 1917 “I shall come to ask for the consecration of Russia to My Immaculate Heart, and the Communion of Reparation on the First Saturdays”, so it seems to me that this wasn’t actually the formal request to do it, but an announcement that She would return to make the formal request, which happened on June 13th 1929.
The following is from The Whole Truth About Fatima by Frere Michel de la Sainte Trinite:-
THE REQUEST FOR THE CONSECRATION OF RUSSIA
«Then Our Lady said to me: “The moment has come when God asks the Holy Father to make, in union with all the bishops of the world, the consecration of Russia to My Immaculate Heart, promising to save it by this means.”
«“So numerous are the souls which the justice of God condemns for sins committed against Me, that I come to ask for reparation. Sacrifice yourself for this intention and pray.”
«I gave an account of this to my confessor, who ordered me to write what Our Lord willed to be done.»
LATER ON, OUR LORD COMPLAINS
«Later on, by means of an interior communication, Our Lord said to me, complaining: “They did not want to heed My request!… Like the King of France they will repent and do it, but it will be late. Russia will have already spread its errors throughout the world, provoking wars and persecutions against the Church: the Holy Father will have much to suffer.”»
THE MOST PRECISE REQUEST. Let us point out right away that in 1930, in two letters to Father Gonçalves, Sister Lucy was to express in a slightly different manner the requests of Heaven, closely associating the devotion of reparation on the five first Saturdays of the month with the consecration of Russia:
«The good Lord promises to end the persecution in Russia, if the Holy Father will himself make a solemn act of reparation and consecration of Russia to the Sacred Hearts of Jesus and Mary, as well as ordering all the bishops of the Catholic world to do the same. The Holy Father must then promise that upon the ending of this persecution he will approve and recommend the practice of the reparatory devotion already described.»
Westminster Fly,
This is something I find myself discussing a lot, and my friends all think that the 100 years will date from 1929, as you say. However, I can’t help thinking that it is more likely to be 1917 because that was when the apparitions began and also because things are just so bad that I can’t imagine things going on like this for another 15 years. I’m not wishing a chastisement on us but it just seems unimaginable that things could go on like this for much longer.
I know what you mean, but for us 15 years is a long time. For God, it is nothing. The fact that this revelation wasn’t released to the Pope and the hierarchy immediately, and was conveyed by Sr Lucia in the subsequent years, means that they wouldn’t have been able to act upon it from 1917.
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