SSPXophobia…Motivated by Malice?

SSPXophobia…Motivated by Malice?

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Do you agree that the persistent critics of the SSPX are “blockheads” or “malicious”?  What other explanation(s) might there be?  Let’s hear your thoughts…

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  • Athanasius

    Spero,

    You will note that Archbishop Cushley did not say those powerful words (so offensive to Protestants), i.e., that the priesthood is essential for the continued offering of the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass. “Celebration of the Eucharist” is way more ecumenical and way more open to abuse.

    April 26, 2015 at 8:53 pm
  • Christina

    Before the NO , ‘Eucharist’ was, as it still is, the term used by Protestants in reference to their communion service in which they partake of bread and wine in memory of the Last Supper. Catholics only spoke of the ‘HOLY Eucharist’ – the consecrated Species. One received the Holy Eucharist during the Mass, it was never a synonym for the Mass. This was one of the infamous Vat.II ploys to please Protestants.

    April 26, 2015 at 10:47 pm
    • Margaret Mary

      Christina,

      Do you think the bishops, like Archbishop Cushley, will know that about the word Eucharist being Protestant before Vatican II? If so, it’s dreadful that they use it to mean Mass. When are they going to stop trying to please Protestants?

      April 26, 2015 at 11:21 pm
    • Jobstears

      Christina,

      I had no idea the term ‘Eucharist’ was used by Protestants in reference to their communion services. Growing up, I do not ever remember the word Eucharist being used without the preface ‘holy’, and that because it was used to refer to the consecrated Species only. Thank you for the reminder!

      These little nuggets of information show so clearly that the destruction of tradition was planned and patiently implemented by Vatican II. It did not just happen. I believe, changing/destroying the language of a community is an effective means of destroying its identity which eventually leads to the absorption of the community into the dominant culture.

      April 27, 2015 at 2:15 pm
  • Christina

    Well, if he was ordained a few years before Vat.II he will have a dim memory, but ecumenism is now so rampant that even a pope can say that all can be saved in their own false religions and mustn’t be converted. I suppose it will all only end, and the Church will be restored to the faith when the Connsecration of Russia has been carried out

    April 27, 2015 at 12:41 am
  • gabriel syme

    I think the way Voris’ CMTV chose to cover the news from Buenos Aires was shocking (as highlighted in the Remnant video).

    Rather than just report the facts in a straightforward fashion, they have picked out certain peripheral details and attempted to use these to twist the story to their own ends. It is exactly the standard of devious, selective reporting we see from the mainstream secular media, whenever it is trying to demonise the Church. How low CMTV has fallen.

    Another favourite tactic of the anti-SSPX crowd is to ignore developments regarding the Society’s status and continue to parrot information which they know is out of date, but which suits their agenda.

    A consolation is that these malicious voices will – sooner or later – be shown up for what they are. For every day which passes while they maintain their false narrative means that their fall, when it comes, will be that bit harder. Many of their subscribers / readers will then realise they have been fed an agenda, as opposed to the truth, and so will no longer trust these personalities / outlets.

    Regarding this desperate false narrative which seeks to misinform about the SSPX, I am reminded of the last, desperate days of the propaganda machine in Hitler’s Germany, which – to the very last – stubbornly insisted that the war was going well and Germany would still win, even as Russian shells were falling in the suburbs of Berlin.

    I am also reminded of Matthew 5:11; Blessed are ye when they shall revile you, and persecute you, and speak all that is evil against you, untruly, for my sake

    There are several scriptural references which are so apt regarding the SSPX and the situation of the wider Church today. I spoke with a priest of the Archdiocese of Glasgow at the weekend (one who attended the most recent CT conference held at Celtic Park) and comparing the situation of every novus ordo seminary in Scotland having closed down, with the blooming traditional seminaries around the world, he said “by their fruits, ye shall know them”.

    At the weekend I heard that Michael Voris is making several appearances in England in the coming week; hopefully he will be taken to task at one of these events!

    April 27, 2015 at 9:35 am
  • Pauline Cormack

    All of us who were brought up in the Novus Ordo have known nothing else. We want to be faithful to the Church, Pope etc. So I guess we all swallowed it hook line and sinker. I just thank God that at the age of 53 I have been guided towards the TLM and will now never look back. V11 has been very successful in its mission to destroy the faith. We now have generation of Catholics who have absolutely no idea about their faith and have actually been taught to despise anything pre V11… because that is what the Church has been telling us. I remember thinking Archbishop Levebvre and followers were all crackpots and a joke. How wrong I was. Looks like the joke has been on all us born into NO.

    April 27, 2015 at 11:40 am
  • Christina

    That is so right Pauline Cormack. We did all swallow it because we were instinctively obedient to our priests and bishops. They’d never, in our lifetimes, taught us anything but the whole of Catholic truth, the same in every school and in every parish. When they suddenly turned and told us we were to have a new Mass, new this, new that and new everything, the bewildered, unhappy flock simply followed.the shepherds thay had always known. Blind obedience was the problem, and at first there emerged no bellwether sheep to guide them. These did emerge – in the shape of men such as the late, great Michael Davies – but most of the sheep were by them chomping away happily on poisoned grass. Some lines from Milton (about bishops!) always spring to mind when I think about our situation – hope I’m quoting correctly from memory:

    The hungry sheep look up and are not fed,
    But swoll’n with wind and the rank mist they draw
    Rot inwardly and foul contagion spread.

    April 27, 2015 at 2:06 pm
  • bededog

    I would like to thank you for all the excellent posts on this thread. I agree wholeheartedly that the reason for the attacks on SSPX is fear and the desire for an easy, uncomplicated spirituality. Also, they are happier that the NO is man-centered whereas the Traditional Mass is God-centered.

    April 27, 2015 at 4:33 pm
  • Edward.Fullerton

    We will just have to put our trust in Jesus, Mary ,Joseph. I guess It reflects the intoxication of sin.Respects of no one.

    April 27, 2015 at 7:48 pm
  • Leo

    Personally, whenever I hear the words “Lefebvrists” and “schism” in connection with the Society, I tend to stop reading. Why give valuable time to the utterances of someone who is either an ignoramus or of malicious will?

    Full marks to Christopher Ferrara, who has repeatedly and forensically, dismantled and pulverized the slanders that various neo-catholics have pertinaciously directed towards faithful Catholics.

    “In condemning us, you condemn the Church of all times. For what is there that She believed and taught that we also do not believe?”
    – Saint Edmund Campion, Martyr of the Anglican schism and heresy

    The excellent Louie Verecchio of the slightly misleadingly named Harvestingthefruit blog also deserves a lot of credit for his great work in spreading Catholic truth and combatting error.

    Mention of neo-catholics who continue to defend the indefensible, as well as various issues raised on this thread, and the whole novus ordo madness in general remind me of the following scene. I won’t elaborate. If someone doesn’t get the connection, so be it. Everyone is free to come up with their own ideas. Now that might make for an interesting competition.

    April 28, 2015 at 3:01 pm
  • Leo

    “Even if every nation living in the king’s dominions obeys him, each forsaking its ancestral religion to conform to his decrees, I, my sons and my brothers will still follow the covenant of our ancestors. … We shall not swerve from our own religion either to right or to left.” (I Maccabees ii)

    Heretics, schismatics, infidels, antichrists, perverts, atheists, agnostics and just about every nut in the forest is to be feted and cosseted, and confirmed in their errors and separation from the Church, while those Catholics who believe and worship as Catholics have done always and everywhere are to be treated as some sort of outcasts. So be it. Maybe we should regard it as a badge of honour. The “New” version of mercy is unashamedly operating under a glaring double standard.

    I’m mindful of the words of elementary sense and self-evident truth that Christopher Ferrara has spoken on another occasion:
    “You can’t be kicked out of the Church for being a Catholic”.

    Another of the Remnant’s writers, Chris Jackson I think, is due the credit for making a rather apt comparison to the ridiculously unjust treatment of the Society in general. He compared the Society to emergency services dashing towards a fire or some other disaster, only to be stopped and detained at the side of the road for having an out of date tax disc or license. It’s a simple image that is worth recalling.

    The last two years have been nothing if not an ever louder free promotion with lights on, of the urgent need for a complete restoration of Tradition, if such was even needed. The human element of the Church is presenting to the faithful and to the world, on a daily basis, a grotesque, evil parody of the Bride of Christ, and the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Faith. It is also very noticeable that for well over a year and a half, the full-time professional, neo Catholic lay apologists have become increasingly obsessed with vilifying Catholics faithful to Tradition. That is a rather good sign, in a roundabout way, if you ask me. They must be getting worried.

    The Modernist revolution is self-liquidating. There are no heirs in the emptying seminaries and monasteries. At some stage, at a time of God’s choosing and through the intercession of Our Lady, the madness will come to end and whatever the limited numbers of the remnant faithful to Tradition, the restoration will begin. And that shortage of time appears to be one of the inescapable and logical explanations of the accelerating rampage of the revolution.

    What exactly will the cost in souls be if Tradition is not defended? What exactly is going to happen if Catholics who recognize the cancer in the Church submit to simply staying silently on the reservation, provided they have the true Mass? What will Catholics a hundred, two hundred years from now be saying about this generation?

    “Using virtue and the love of God, and the abolition, in the name of virtue, of the indispensable means of formation and conservation, to blackmail the faithful into bending – that’s modernism at its most basic. Modernism controls its victims in the name of obedience, thanks to the suspicion of pride which is cast on any criticism of their reforms, in the name of respect for the Pope, in the name of missionary zeal, of charity, and of unity.”
    – Fr. Roger Calmel OP, Letter of 8th August, 1973

    It might also be a good time for Catholics to read Archbishop Lefebvre’s Declaration to his priests and seminarians, written over 40 years ago.

    Saint Athanasius and the Arian crisis have, quite naturally, been referred to plenty of times on this blog. If anyone requires further comparisons with the ignoble injustices meted out to the Society in these days of unspeakable abominations, and how the Society is following the precedent of faithful and loyal Catholics, please read the following:

    “Often, too, Divine Providence permits even good men to be driven from the congregation of Christ by the turbulent seditions of carnal men. When for the sake of the peace of the Church, they patiently endure that insult or injury, and attempt no novelties in the way of heresy or schism. They will teach men how God is to be served with a true disposition and with great and sincere charity. The intention of such men is to return when the tumult has subsided. But if that is not permitted because the storm continues or because a fiercer one might be stirred up by their return, they hold fast to their purpose to look to the good even of those responsible for the tumults and commotions that drove them out. They form no separate sects of their own, but defend to the death and assist by their testimony the faith which they know is preached in the Catholic Church. These the Father who seeth in secret crowns secretly. It appears that this is a rare kind of Christian, but examples are not lacking. So Divine Providence uses all kinds of men as examples for the oversight of souls and for the building up of his spiritual people.”
    – St. Augustine, Of True Religion, 6,11

    April 28, 2015 at 3:58 pm
  • Leo

    The following two links, which come courtesy of John Vennari’s excellent Catholic Family News website are certainly worthy of inclusion on this thread.

    The first link really demonstrates the undeniable and blatant double standards of the neo modernist legalistic pharisees and their shameful attitude towards faithful Catholics. It’s very hard to make a credible case for straight talking good faith among the Society’s interlocutors at this point in time, when we compare this example of “reaching out” to the almost daily and universal pandering to the heretics, schismatics, infidels, antichrists, perverts, atheists and agnostics that I mentioned in a previous post.

    As Father Simoulin wrote, actions do indeed speak louder than words.

    I don’t want my words to get in the way, and I don’t know what other readers will think, but when I read this, I found my blood beginning to quietly boil. What’s all this Year of Mercy about? No need for answers. As I’ve said before, we are through the novus ordo looking glass, good and proper.

    http://sspx.org/en/news-events/news/actions-speak-than-louder-words

    I would also urge people to read the following short District Superior’s Letter from a truly good and holy priest.

    http://sspx.ca/en/publications/newsletters/april-2015-district-superiors-letter

    April 29, 2015 at 4:17 pm
    • elephant

      Leo,

      Blood boil? You ain’t kidding. That report is utterly horrendous and this Pope just goes further down in my estimation, with every passing second, which I really didn’t think was possible. That he could go further down in my estimation, I mean. Monstrous.

      This extract speaks for itself:

      “So politics have replaced charity and the hearts of the Roman prelates and officials, high and low, know only the strictest rigor of the letter of Canon Law. Respect and enforcement of the law – that nobody cares about, not even the pope – have become the supreme virtue. The letter of Canon Law has become the norm and the rule of goodness! “

      Exactly. A Pope who insisted on the Protestant “bishop” Tony Palmer being given a Catholic funeral, and who wines and dines with every heretic, schismatic and sexual deviant under the sun, won’t do a darn thing when a large group of children are being denied their pilgrimage Mass unless it is offered by a priest “in full Communion” (what, like Tony Palmer was in “full communion”?)

      Utterly and totally disgraceful, but good in the sense that those nuts who are part of Bishop Williamson’s “resistance” (to nothing), claiming that Bishop Fellay is going along with the Modernist revolution, now don’t have a leg to stand on, not that they ever did.

      Thanks for that alert, Leo. My blood boiled and believe me, I don’t have any problem in denouncing – as entirely fake – the claims of the Vatican “negotiators” that they are in good faith in their attempts to regularise the SSPX. No way!

      But keep talking to them, Bishop Fellay. Keep highlighting those doctrinal differences, and the fact that these men are about as Catholic as a bunch of dandelions, and keep publicising their dishonesty.

      April 29, 2015 at 4:49 pm

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