Bishop On Migrants – Pope Wrong!

Bishop On Migrants – Pope Wrong!

Pope Francis’s message Sunday couldn’t have been clearer: With hundreds of thousands of refugees flowing into Europe, Catholics across the continent had a moral duty to help by opening their churches, monasteries and homes as sanctuaries.

On Monday, the church’s spiritual leader for southern Hungary — scene of some of the heaviest migrant flows anywhere in Europe — had a message just as clear: His Holiness is wrong.

“They’re not refugees. This is an invasion,” said Bishop Laszlo Kiss-Rigo, whose dominion stretches across the southern reaches of this predominantly Catholic nation. “They come here with cries of ‘Allahu Akbar.’ They want to take over.”

The bishop’s stark language reflects a broader spiritual struggle in Europe over how to respond to a burgeoning flow of predominantly Muslim men, women and children onto a largely Christian continent.

The pope’s call for compassion and charity is competing with a view most prominently articulated by Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban, who has cast the flow of migrants as a direct challenge to Europe’s Christian character.

And despite the heat that Orban has taken worldwide for attempts to crack down on some of the globe’s most vulnerable people by halting their journeys or throwing them into prison, his stance has seemed to only burnish his reputation here as a no-nonsense nationalist who will defend the country against an onslaught of “tens of millions” of new arrivals.

I’m in total agreement with the prime minister,” Kiss-Rigo said in an interview Monday.

The pope, by contrast, “doesn’t know the situation.”

The situation, as Kiss-Rigo describes it, is that Europe is being inundated by people who are posing as refugees but actually present a grave threat to the continent’s “Christian, universal values.”  Read entire report here

Comment:

We’ve touched on the so-called “migrant crisis” on the General Discussion thread, but since it is apparently worsening, and since we’ve now got the Scots Bishops among those who are calling for us all to open our homes to the “refugees”, it might be helpful to consider the alleged migrant crisis from the perspective of the Hungarian Bishop, Laszlo Kiss-Rigo, which stands in stark contrast to the Pope’s opinion on the matter.  Is this a case of innocent people fleeing torture and death – or is there something else at work here?

Comments (76)

  • Vianney

    When the body of the little boy was washed ashore, and later those of his mother and brother, people rightly felt a great sense of sorrow and horror. They were fleeing from persecution in Syria only to die in a foreign land. But hold on.. the next thing we see is that the father took the bodies back to Syria for burial. That should have sent alarm bells ringing among politicians throughout Europe. Why, if you are fleeing a country for fear of your life, would you return to it to bury your family? This makes me wonder just how many are true refugees and how many are just chancers wanting to get into Europe. And while it is true that Muslim countries are not offering to take anyone, we have to be realistic and realise that, even if there were offers from Muslim countries, none of the “refugees” would want to go there because life would be too restrictive, especially in Saudi Arabia, and they would have more freedom locked up in Saughton or Barlinnie jails.

    Another matter of concern is the number of young men travelling on their own. Where are their families? Would any of us flee our country and leave our loved ones behind? No! and as some people have commented to me, “we don’t know who they are, they could be terrorists, posing as refugees, trying to get into Europe to cause harm.”

    One last thing, I notice that those who say that they are wiling to take these people into their houses haven’t bothered in the past to take in their own people who are sleeping in shop doorway and park benches.

    September 17, 2015 at 11:20 pm
    • editor

      Vianney,

      Well said. Love your parting shot!

      September 18, 2015 at 12:05 am
  • morgana

    Maybe slightly off topic but did anyone else watch question time with Alec Salmond making reference to the fact that Our Lord was a refugee leaving Palestine for Egypt as if this could be any kind off comparison. He needs a serious reality check.

    September 17, 2015 at 11:41 pm
    • editor

      Morgana,

      Yes, I saw QT – and as well as Alex Salmond making a fool of himself, Tim Stanley, who poses as a [convert] “conservative” Catholic, lauded the legalisation of same-sex “marriage” and denied that Ireland had ever been “occupied” by Britain. Honestly, you couldn’t make this stuff up.

      Salmond listed celebrities from “refugees stock” (sure fire way to get a round of applause) – someone ALWAYS does provide a list on QT and it gets to be so predictable and so ridiculous that I just yawn or laugh or both (no, wait… can’t do both!)

      I wish they’d ban applause on that programme. It is so distracting and just about every question and every answer is applauded. I keep saying I’m going to stop watching it but then it’s like my attitude to the dodgems when I was a child: I didn’t want to go on them, but I couldn’t resist the thrill of it all! In the case of QT, I can’t resist watching if only to say “it’s a joke!”

      September 18, 2015 at 12:11 am
    • Constantine

      I remain sympathetic to the refugees, especially the children and the disabled.

      However, before the referendum, the SNP issued a White Paper (a huge tome that sat in my local library for months) which included proposals to build a city the size of Dundee every five years to accommodate migrants. This plan was highlighted by the Prime Minister of Sweden, who had actually read the document.

      September 18, 2015 at 9:37 am
      • editor

        Constantine,

        I’m sure we’re all sympathetic to genuine refugees. “Sympathy” is not the issue. I won’t go over everything again, but that is very interesting indeed about the SNP promising to build a city the size of Dundee every five years to accommodate migrants. Even more interesting, the fact that the PM of Sweden has read the document when I’d wager that very few Scots have done so – and that includes MSP’s! And that includes SNP MSP’s!

        So, thank you for that information. Very interesting indeed.

        September 18, 2015 at 9:42 am
  • leprechaun

    Madame Editor,

    I have been reading through all the comments posted to this thread and it is clear that a planned invasion of Europe is taking place. It is not difficult to comprehend that these fervent young Muslim men will make mincemeat of the lukewarm Christians, in so far as there are any left, and that the majority will simply accept the choice of becoming Muslim or else. After all, their “anything goes” attitude has led to acceptance of same sex marriage, so why make a fuss about embracing Islam?

    They have simply never had a decent formation as to why they should declare for the Kingship of Christ and provide firm opposition to the Islamisation of their of their homelands.

    I predict great civil unrest when the penny drops, and they notice how they have become second class citizens in their own cities, queueing for services and vacant houses for twice the length of time due to the influx of newcomers, and tasting the results of their apathy and spoiled voting papers at ballot boxes in the face of highly organised voting by the newcomers for their preferred candidates, who will see to it that laws preferential to Islam come into being, and that appointments in Local Authorities and National Government of candidates with Islamic sympathies are made.

    The situation is getting so bad that I think there is little doubt that the Great Chastisement is very close. Fr. Karl Stehlin, reviver of Militia Immaculatae, leaves little doubt in his eighth Newsletter on the following link that it will occur in less than eighteen month’s time – in 2017.

    For those who are feeling afraid about the future, it is a letter worth reading:

    http://archivist2017.webspace.virginmedia.com/

    And for those who are asking: “What can we do in the face of such apathy by our fellow men?”, the answer is to wear the brown scapular, pray the Rosary, distribute Miraculous medals.

    September 19, 2015 at 5:28 pm
    • editor

      Leprechaun,

      Great post – and thank you for that link to the Knights of the Immaculatae, always an edifying read. I’ve not managed to read the whole page yet but it’s right at the top of my list of things to do once I get the October edition off to the printers.

      Thanks, too, for reminding us of the power of the named sacramentals. God bless you for it – and He will !

      September 19, 2015 at 8:37 pm
  • Christiana

    With all this going on, I wonder if anyone else thought that the pastoral letter for Home Mission Sunday which was read in English churches this morning was absolutely inept, bland and un stimulating? A sort of corporation speak, “let’s all be nice to each other” message! Is there any fire or passion in our hierarchy I wonder!

    September 20, 2015 at 10:12 pm
  • Athanasius

    Christiana

    It is no exaggeration to state that whatever “fire and passion” our hierarchy has, and it’s not much, is reserved exclusively for the combatting of anything that remotely smacks of Traditional Catholicism. Harsh perhaps, but absolutely true.

    September 20, 2015 at 11:21 pm
  • Anne Smith

    To emigrate in the cause of Allah – that is, to move to a new land in order to bring Islam there, is considered in Islam to be a highly meritorious act. “And whoever emigrates for the cause of Allah will find on the earth many locations and abundance,” says the Qur’an. “.
    The media and globalist propaganda machines are working overtime in an attempt to sell the invasion of Europe as a humanitarian crisis circling hungry women and children fleeing Syria. But here’s the problem, only half of the hundreds of thousands storming Europe are from Syria. And here’s the real whopper of the story. Nearly 75% of those flooding Europe are men.

    September 26, 2015 at 7:55 pm
    • editor

      Anne,

      I’m SO jealous! Your photo has now overtaken Helen’s photo, (depicting her youth and beauty, which bears a striking resemblance to Marilyn Munro, but you didn’t hear that from me 😀 )

      Seriously, thank you for that very illuminating comment. What you say (and cite from the Qur’an) is confirmed, it seems to me, by the fact that while Saudi Arabia won’t take any refugees, the authorities there are willing to build 200 mosques across Germany to cater for the influx. Click here to read more

      And still the useful idiots (by the truckload) will continue, as you indicate, to blether on about a “humanitarian crisis”.

      Gimme strength!

      September 26, 2015 at 10:43 pm
      • Constantine

        I know many go on about Saudi and most of it is justified, but a great many people never return home after Hadj, they just stay in the country afterwards.

        September 26, 2015 at 11:12 pm
  • Athanasius

    Constantine

    I assume you can point us to a reliable source for confirmation of that claim? It seems a little far fetched to me.

    September 26, 2015 at 11:57 pm
    • Constantine

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal_immigration_in_Saudi_Arabia

      Ed: it is always a mistake to post links without any comment. They either go into moderation, or more usually, SPAM so may be automatically deleted. I’ve just found this one – hours after posting, so please take a minute to write a comment, preferably explaining the point of the link. It certainly doesn’t offer evidence of large numbers staying after the Hajj: it refers to “any Hajji or illegal over stayers are met with a mandatory prison sentence followed by swift deportation” There’s more than a little concern about the invasion of Europe, not just “any” (implication “few”) refugees going into Europe…

      September 27, 2015 at 10:39 am
      • Athanasius

        Constantine,

        I asked for a reliable source. Wikipedia is notoriously unreliable.

        September 27, 2015 at 8:41 pm
    • Christina

      And, Constantine, have you any comment to make on Anne Smith’s post? You come over as something of an apologist for a monstrous and terrifying religion, and I would really like to know if you have read its ‘holy book’, in which every Muslim is steeped almost from infancy. I think it is absolutely essential reading for anyone who voices strong opinions, in either direction, about Islam. As Leprechaun said, Europe is being invaded, and everything being reported and shown in the media points inexorably to that fact, no matter what spin useful idiots put on it for the consumption of the gullible masses.

      September 27, 2015 at 11:37 am

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