Pope Francis – A “Wannabe Anglican”?editor
The above video conversation is worth watching to the end. If even the “liberal” Anglicans find the Catholic Church under Pope Francis to be “frightening” there is not much more to be said… IS Pope Francis a “wannabe Anglican”? Would he be more at home as an Anglican? Perhaps more to the point, would they want him? Judging by these two pleasant gentleman, the answer would seem to be a resounding “No!” So, not only is the old joke “are you more Catholic than the Pope” now obsolete because we have to be, in order to keep the Faith, but seems Pope Francis is “more Protestant than the Protestants” according to “Anglican Unscripted”. What a mess!
Take particular note, however, of the observations of the two Anglicans towards the end of the conversation, when they speak of the Russian Orthodox influence in the sphere of morality, now replacing that of the Catholic Church, for example in battling immoral laws in the European Parliament. Frightening? That’s what the Anglican commentators think – what do you think?
I popped in to add a link, just received via email from a friend, to what I was sure would be a thread buzzing with life. Never mind.
Seems there’s a “theory” out there about why Pope Francis is behaving as he is (erratically blah blah) and – summed up – the explanation may be that he hasn’t watched TV in 20 years, doesn’t bother with the internet, and generally lives in a bubble with his advisers pulling the strings. In other words, he hasn’t a clue about the hullabaloo he’s causing. Yeah right.
Here it is – make of it what you will… and I suppose I should add: when you will 😯
I watched the Anglicans on the video and it made me cringe to hear what they seemed to be saying with not a little relish about the Churches topsy- turvy synod and about the Russian Orthodox Church.
I disagree that the R, Orthodox are the only defenders of morality in the EU parliament because I know there are some great Catholics there defending true Catholic beliefs.
They don’t know what to make of Pope Francis like the rest of us. Besides being totally influenced by the Kasperites do you think he might have Alzeimers?
No, I don’t think Pope Francis has Alzheimer’s – not that they’d tell me if he did.
Cardinal Bergoglio was well known (to the powers-that-be) as a “liberal” with bells on, and they deliberately elected him to kill off what was left of Catholicism after the previous “liberal” pontificates. For our apathetic acceptance of the errors of Vatican II and the consequences of ecumenism and so-called religious liberty, we are getting what we deserve; the worst ever pope in the history of the Church.
Yes editor we are getting what we deserve
I have to say that the minister on the right, George, just looks glaikit most of the time. They probably summed Pope Francis up very well but I don’t see the Russian or any other Orthodox Church being the defenders of morality. The Orthodox Churches allow divorce. Even their priests can get divorced and remarried but if their wife dies they are not allowed to remarry. Where’s the sense in that? The Orthodox are a strange lot. The different National Churches are always arguing amongst themselves and the Russian and Greek Churches hate each other, both claiming to be the true Orthodox. I had a friend who was Orthodox and a few years ago she asked if I would go to the church one Holy Saturday night as they were having their Resurrection Service and were expecting over a hundred people. At that time the church was a tiny little basement chapel and they needed someone to stand at the door to guide people out in case of fire as everyone would have candles. At one point some people stormed past me muttering away to themselves. A short time later some more people stormed out followed later by another lot. Later, when I asked what was going on, I was told that the first lot were Greeks complaining that Slavonic was being used. The second lot were Russian complaining that Greek was being used, and the third lot were Russians and Greeks complaining that English was being used.
That’s just hilarious! Bring back Vatican II – all is forgiven!
PS: I liked the minister, George. Lovely smile!
Sorry to be linking to Father Z’s blog, whom I can’t stand, but he posted the Patriarch of Moscow’s (Metropolitan Hilarion) address to the Synod of Doom, which I thought was relevant. It would appear, at least on the surface, that the Russian Orthodox are indeed becoming one of the last bastions of Christian morality in the West…but let’s not forget the SSPX, though it doesn’t have the numbers to be a “bastion” yet…http://wdtprs.com/blog/2015/10/russian-metropolitan-hilarion-to-synod-dont-be-protestants/
Very interesting discussion between the two Americans and one that should be shown more widely: “feel good doctrine ” is exactly what this Synod seems to be offering. I would love to know what the response to this would be from Cardinal Nchol. Would he agree that the Catholic Church has abandoned the moral high ground? I wonder!
Well, there seem to be plenty of folks here who think Pope Francis is a great Catholic.
Takes all sorts…
My goodness, those 2 Anglican clergymen do have the proverbial finger on the pulse! How tragic that our Church has come to this! May Mary Help of Christians come to our aid.
Would it be a sin to pray for the repose of Pope Francis’ soul?
Since there is no time in eternity, I doubt if it would be a “sin” to pray for the repose of someone’s soul while he/she is still alive, not least since we all pray (I hope) for a “happy death”, but I think it would be more beneficial to pray for the Pope’s conversion in this world. Like Damascus style – i.e. immediately, if not sooner!
“While someone with more background in theology might be able to give a better answer, Francis said that as Christians we all have the same baptism, and that going to each other’s services is a way to participate in the Lord’s Supper together”.
Nope, he wasn’t speaking to or about Anglicans, particularly. Lutheran audience but he doesn’t believe in “walls” – click here to read the latest abominable nonsense from Papa Francis.
So, ignoring the papal exhortation for Catholics to attend Protestant services to “participate in the Lord’s Supper”, he clearly isn’t inviting Protestants to attend the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass. Self-evidently, he sees Mass as “the Lord’s Supper”. Not exactly breaking news, I know, but I thought I’d mention it anyway…
Or am I missing something? (apart from even a tiny drop of patience with this terrible pontiff…)
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