Feast of the Immaculate Conception…
On this major Feast of Our Lady, we enjoy an exchange of favourite hymns, prayers, favours granted, and, of course, jokes and stories of interest.
Happy Feast Day to everyone!
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Comments (46)
There will be a Traditional Mass in the SSPX chapel in Glasgow at 6.30pm this evening. That’s the only Mass I know for certain is available – feel free to post details if you know of other TLMs available to enable us to fulfil our obligation on this Holy Day.
[youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dcs6WPjZi0k?feature=player_detailpage&w=640&h=360%5D
There will also be a Traditional Mass in the SSPX chapel in Edinburgh at 12.30pm. For those who are unsure where this chapel is, you will find it in St. Leonard’s Road right next to the Homebase Store.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezL6iqOb2GQ
I love this hymn O Purest of creatures.
Theresa Rose,
Thank you for that video – but yet again, this is not the tune I heard and sang in my youth. For one thing, we didn’t have the “Ave” chorus. It may be in my imagination but the tunes with which I grew up, were in my view, much nicer than anything on YouTube. Still, it seems to be only the Americans who are putting the hymns online, so I really shouldn’t complain. But that won’t stop me, you’ll see!
Happy Feast!
Editor,
I agree with you about the tunes both you and I grew up with. Sad to say when I also looked for the hymn to Our lady of Fatima, that too was different.
Happy and Blessed Feast Day to everyone.
That’s the tune of the Lourdes Hymn.
I hope this comes out ok. This is one of the tunes used in Scotland. There is another one but can’t find the other one.
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwi94eDvrs3JAhUCSxoKHWReCY4QtwIIJTAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DvvgKbD4F-Ak&usg=AFQjCNG-fhX8PZJuC8ERUgXqmF8pWkGXQg&sig2=DhYtyGv9pqPBgZVcHqY6og&bvm=bv.109332125,d.d2s
Vianney,
For future reference, to get the actual video to appear in your comment box, all you do is to right click on the video and select “copy embed code” and then come here, and right click to select “paste” and… voila!
[youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvgKbD4F-Ak?feature=player_detailpage&w=640&h=360%5D
Thanks Editor. I have done it before but yesterday was a long day and I couldn’t figure out what I was doing.
Theresa Rose, just a small correction, the chapel is actually in St. Leonard’s Street and Homebase is in the process of being demolished to be replaced by student accommodation.
A reader emailed this call for Pope Francis to stand down as the Year of Mercy begins today.
And, beware – critics of Pope Francis are threatened with excommunication to mark this Year of Mercy!
For Our Lady’s Immaculate Conception, and for this season of Advent. This is my favourite motet,, especially with Palestrina’s unearthly music that we trainee teachers used to sing at college. Liturgical music purists – we used to sing the plainsong version every evening at Compline as well!
https://youtu.be/5xfT6ElPUPg
Happy and Blessed feast day to all.
That is a lovely rendition of the Lourdes hymn on the website.
I would love to have a cd or know where o find these hymns which we don’t hear in our churches very much. Our children are not learning them in school or even at traditional masses and they teach so much about the faith.
I signed the petition to the Pope on the Remnant link. But will he listen or even read it?
Clotilde,
I, too, would love to know where to purchase a good CD of the traditional hymns – I’d love to be able to play it in the car for the benefit of my nephews and nieces as we drive home from Mass but there would be no point in buying one with tunes that none of us know. Both in England and USA they sing different tunes and sometimes different words as well, so I’d want to hear it in advance before purchasing. If anyone knows whether that’s possible and if so where, I will be very grateful and will leave this thread open for the rest of December, in the hope of finding a source.
Vianney, you’re quite a good detective and in the know about books, holy objects, mantillas, you name it – what about traditional CDs? Don’t tell me you don’t DO traditional CDs 😯
A Blessed Feast of the Immaculate Conception to all!
https://damselofthefaith.wordpress.com/2015/12/08/the-immaculate-conception/
DOTF,
Many thanks for the link to your blog post on the Feast – beautiful sermon. Thank you for it.
Editor, for the first time since my youth, I recently heard that beautiful hymn ” Oh Queen of the Holy Rosary”. I must admit to having tears in my eyes. Unfortunately, I cannot remember all the words. Old age nostalgia? or Home sickness?
AVE MARIA!
Gerontius,
Here are the words – I can’t find the tune we sing here in the UK, at least not on video, although the American version is all over YouTube (it’s nice, of course, but not the same tune as we sing. I’m assuming you are UK based.)
Editor, the tune is just above the words. Click at the right hand side.
Vianney,
Yes, sorry, me again, typical, I know the tune is there but I really meant on YouTube, video, can’t find one there, but that’s good enough, thank you for that. What am I LIKE? Rhetorical question… 😀
Editor and Vianney, many thanks. It brings back happy memories of my first Holy Communion in 1950.
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I suspect this is Therese having log in problems. To retrieve your avatar you need to log in with the same email and password as when you attached the avatar.
Happy Feast Day to you all! It was only upon opening the blog that I realised what day it was! That’s what becomes of living in a spiritual bog…..
I salute thee, O Immaculate Queen! I greet thee, O blissful Sanctuary of the Divinity! By thy Immaculate Conception, the Deity has formed for itself a Tabernacle in which to repose. I rejoice in thy surpassing splendors, and I offer, in praise and thanksgiving to the transcendent Trinity, the Blood of the August Victim slain from the foundation of the world. O Mary, temple of countless praises! O Mary, my Mother, all mine! I take refuge in thy heart. Let me dwell there, sheltered from harm and all-occupied with the worship and love of our Savior.
Blessed be the holy and Immaculate Conception of the Blessed Virgin Mary, Mother of God! Blessed be the Blood which preserved thee stainless and enriched thee with graces and privileges beyond all compare!
3Littlesheperds;
Amen.
On this the feast day of the Immaculate Conception, one is lost in awe at the thought that at the tender age of fourteen all heaven and earth would be in suspense awaiting the Fiat of this most exquisite of creatures, so the redemption could begin. God would not act without the consent of His creature. Who can understand it, except by the gift of faith?. What a treasure we have in Mary, God’s Mother and ours.
Probably the wrong place to post this but check out the Remnant website for:
An Urgent Appeal to Pope Francis to Either Change Course or Renounce the Petrine Office
There’s something wrong with the lock/unlock symbol for signing. Unless this is fixed many signatures (including mine) won’t be recorded. Many people commenting have had the same problem
Christina – yes I’ve got the same problem – someone here knows how to fix that problem as it’s come up before, but I can’t remember who the genius is. Hopefully s/he’ll read this and let us into the secret, as I really want to sign this.
This is Therese bwt; for some reason my icon’s disappeared along with my “real” identity……
Testing again.
Drum roll…. Welcome back, Therese.
We sang Immaculate Mary after Mass today in Edinburgh.
As did we, Vianney, as did we, in Glasgow.
This is one of the prayers for the Feast of the Immaculate Conception:
O Blessed Virgin Mary,
Who art the Mother of Grace,
the Hope of the World,
hear us your children as we cry to thee.
That title of ‘Hope of the World’ is really the great dividing line between those who strive to have God as the foundation and centre of their lives and those whose lives are caught up in the material. Beset as we are by seemingly intractable problems on all sides and with enemies for an escort, do we put our trust in all the leading scientists and politicians of the day (brilliant as they undoubtedly all are – I mean some can even be quite accurate in predicting tomorrow’s weather) or do we have faith in Our Lady’s maternal care? Tough choice.
Spudeater,
Only a week or two ago, one of the TV weather men said openly that predicting the weather for days in advance can be difficult – yet they want us to take their word that the climate will be disastrous for years to come. Yeah right!
Thank you for the prayer – Our Lady is, quite literally, the Hope of the World. If only Papa Francis would take her word for it and consecrate Russia.
Madame Editor,
According to the SSPX website this is the day when Fr. Wingerden was hit by a car.
Prayers are requested:
http://www.sspx.co.uk/page_latest_news.htm
Leprechaun,
Correct. Athanasius posted the information on our GD thread (dated 10th and slip of the keyboard, he typed “yesterday”) when he wrote:
Father has a very great devotion to Our Lady and her rosary, so it was no coincidence that the devil tried to wipe him out on the Feast of the Immaculate Conception.
We’re keeping him in our prayers here – also Father McLaughlin who must be run off his feet. I hope the daft “resistance to nothing” bunch are feeling proud of themselves.
Madame Editor,
I have noticed that Athanasius does not consider today as ended until he has gone to bed, so for him, 12.29am on December 10th was still December 9th, for which, relatively speaking, “yesterday” was indeed Tuesday 8th December and the Feast of the Immaculate Conception – so no slip of the keyboard. Long may his zeal be an example to the rest of us (yourself excluded of course – but we know you often post when you get home from your pubbing and clubbing – for we grant that you always take note of the midnight hour).
I am posting because it is now three years and a few weeks since the appearance of the first issue of The Recusant by those who style themselves “The Resistance”.
That is, three years during which Bishop Fellay has denied Rome the opportunity to say that he has closed the door on negotiations, whilst at the same time, as Superior General, he has avoided becoming ensnared in any traps which might have led to the demise of the initiative undertaken by Archbishop Lefebvre.
In the meantime, priests continue to leave the Society on the basis of “What if . . . “, “Supposing . . . “, “I heard this . . . ” and “I heard that . . . ” – all unfounded suppositions and all a betrayal of their vow of obedience to the Society.
How long will it take to persuade them that Bishop Fellay is not going to sell the Society down the river?
Why cannot they see, after all this time, that they are in error in listening to rumours, and that their place is with the Society, and not in their flights of fancy?
If they loved Our Lady, they would renounce their pride, make a sincere confession for their error of judgement, and return to the Society which they are weakening by their desertion.
We know they are properly formed and they are sincere in their belief in Tradition – why should they not return? What better time than Advent for them to reflect on how they have been deceived, and to resolve to return to and to strengthen the Society?
Leprechaun,
I didn’t bother to draw attention to Athanasius custom of catching up in the middle of the night which, if he’d thought of it himself, would have resulted in him instructing his keyboard accordingly, so slip of the keyboard is right enough! I might not always be right, our Leprechaun, but I’m never wrong 😀
As for those “resistance” people being “properly formed” – you must be kidding. One of them used to say to me OFTEN, that she thought it was a pity that the SSPX congregation always went to the SSPX chapel and it would be better if we interacted more with the diocesan TLM at Sacred Heart (as she did) … after all, we’re all “traditionalists”. Now she thinks Bishop Fellay is a Modernist! Crackers.
I laughed when I first heard that she was following Bishop Williamson and the “resistance” given that Bishop Williamson would have put her right about her flirtation with the diocesan TLM. They’re not properly formed at all, they’re a mixed up bunch. Now, that’s me being nice, so don’t push it!
Madame Editor,
My post was unambiguously referring to those priests who have left the order. The female you instance, and her ilk, we can do without.
It is the errant priests I want to see return, but you have asked me not to pursue the matter so I shall let it rest.
Leprechaun and Editor,
Yes, I admit to being something of a nocturnal animal. My slip up with times, then, was a result of hanging upside down in the wardrope, my favorite sleeping position. Think of it as a side effect of a blood rush to the brain. And yes, I do in fact have one of those spongey organs in my head, even it it hasn’t yet learned to tell the time.
As for the so-called “Resistance,” Leprechaun nailed it with one word PRIDE. Sad to say that the priests I knew who left the SSPX for this rag-tag grouping were all prone to severity in their dealings with others and were inclined to giving vent to anger. I hope they receive the grace to re-think their position and the damage they are doing, but I am not optimistic. Now, like Lep, I’ll let the matter rest and get back to studying the big hand and the little hand and how they correspond to the numbers on the dial!!
Athanasius,
“Sad to say that the priests I knew who left the SSPX for this rag-tag grouping were all prone to severity in their dealings with others and were inclined to giving vent to anger.”
That’s very interesting. It explains a lot. Bishop Fellay doesn’t come across as “severe” – quite the opposite, he seems very gentle, judging by YouTube and his writings. I’ve never had the privilege of meeting him. No wonder they don’t like him!
Margaret Mary,
Yes, Bishop Fellay is a good soul, undeserving of the calumny his detractors have heaped upon him.
I’ve been told that the members of the so called resistance continually argue among themselves. They have fallen out with Bishop Williamson and told him that he is no longer welcome to celebrate Mass for them. They brag about the number of Mass Centres they have, but honestly, they should be taken up under the Trades Description Act as Mass is hardly ever said at them so they should be renamed Holy Hour Centres. The only Centres listed with regular Mass are those served by Fr. King and he apparently says he’s not in the resistance. They say they will not attend SSPX Masses but an American visitor told me that he knows resistance people who, when they have no Mass, will go to the Fraternity of St. Peter or Institute of Christ the King Masses but not those of the Society. Rather hypocritical that they refuse to go to Masses celebrated by the SSPX because they are talking to Rome but will go to Masses celebrated by orders that in with Rome.
Their hatred for Bishop Fellay shocking. Claiming that by talking to Rome he is selling out when all he is doing is following Archbishop Lefebvre. He said that if Rome wanted to speak to him then he would talk to them. Let’s face it, you won’t get anywhere unless you talk. Their mantra of “no talking to Rome till Rome converts too tradition” is just plan daft. Unless you talk to Rome there is no way it will convert. As I’ve always said, what if the missionaries had said that they would talk to the Africans until they converted? They would never have been converted would they? And it’s the same with Rome, they won’t convert until someone converts them.
As for their newsletter, a friend in England told me that he was given a copy by someone who attends the resistance but was told “don’t believe anything in it because it’s full of lies.
They apparently carried a story about an SSPX priest announcing in Cork that he was leaving to join the resistance and when the prior found out he stormed down to the church to change the locks. The fact that there is no priory in Cork seemed lost on them.
They printed the following:
“The prior of Carluke (Scotland) lamented the terrible, terrible fact that some people from the parish (horrors!) go to Fr. King’s Mass instead of the neo-SSPX. He also took the trouble to note that he and his confreres were very tolerant of people going to Mass elsewhere, particularly if, as in the past, it was question of attending the Novus Ordo or Indult. But if you go to the Resistance, said he, that’s another matter! You’re not welcome.”
I have been told by someone who was in the church that what Fr. McLaughlin said was that “if you want to go with Fr. King that’s fine, but if you come here trying to cause trouble then you are not welcome.” Something entirely different.
Then there was this nasty piece:
““Poor Priests!”
With the rumours abroad of more than one longstanding SSPX chapel in this country being reduced to Mass every two weeks due to the “terrible burden” left on “poor” priests by the departure of certain others for the Resistance, in the case that it is true (and it may not be), we can expect a certain amount of emotional blackmail to follow. In which case, you may wish to remind yourself of the following:
1.
The priest is not doing you a personal favour by providing you with the sacraments, any more than parents are when they give food to their children. He is only doing his duty. That’s what he is for. He doesn’t save his soul unless his faithful save theirs.
2.
The same goes regarding his travelling to say Mass. Not only do many faithful also have to travel significant distances to Mass, that is only one day of the week: does his Sunday Mass circuit amount to your five days of daily commute to work? Again, it’s his duty, no less.
3.
No amount of Sacraments can ever make up for the smallest deviation or diminution of Catholic doctrine , as, for example, Henry VIII is now realising to his own expense and very great dismay (and doubtless will be for the rest of eternity).
4.
The SSPX is not, and never was, an end in itself. It exists for a purpose. The Church already had thousands upon thousands of congregations, orders and societies, each one far older and more venerable than the SSPX. The SSPX’s only virtue was what made it unique in his unique era. Unless it opposes Vatican II and all the fruits of Vatican II with every fibre of its being, it has no reason to exist. God can quite easily raise up someone else to provide you with what you need.”
The priory in Preston served six Mass Centres. Do they honestly expect one priest to say all those Masses? It’s bad enough when a priest has to travel to three different cities on a Sunday to celebrate Mass without adding anymore. It looks like the resistance don’t live in the real world.
Vianney,
I see the departure of these people as providential and I have noted with pleasure that since they left our congregations have grown enormously, certainly in Glasgow to the extent that we now need a bigger church. The SSPX does not need a schismatic element existing within its structures, so good riddance to the lot of them.
Vianney,
All very interesting. And I’ve said all along what you’ve said about “converting Rome”. It’s crass stupidity to say, in the middle of the worst ever crisis of faith and authority ever to afflict the Church, “I won’t talk to those causing this crisis until the crisis is over.” In other words, God sent us the SSPX as a lifeboat to see us through this crisis, but, at all costs, the lifeboat must steer clear of the ship! Complete crackers.
If they were real Catholics, truly apostolic souls, they would be champing at the bit for a solution to the current situation and would rejoice every time Bishop Fellay went to talk to the culprits in the Vatican. Every single time.
The fact is, they have adopted exactly what Archbishop Lefebvre warned against: a schismatic mentality. They enjoy the situation of irregularity – sometimes, I can’t help wondering (especially when I hear about one of their number saying she was quite happy with a Holy Hour instead of Mass) if they are only too glad to be “relieved” of the Sunday obligation. Better a quiet Holy Hour for those who bother to attend 11 – 12 noon, than a long journey to an early morning Mass. Yip. That’s one possibility.
Or am I being uncharitable (again)?
Signed: Moll Teasers, Glasgow…
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