Of Mice & Men: Cardinal Sarah & Co.editor
TUESDAY, JULY 05, 2016
Cardinal Sarah’s Inaugural Address at Sacra Liturgia UK
Continued study and criticism of the reformed rites is necessary: to what extent do the post-conciliar liturgical reforms reflect the zeitgeist of the 1960s and 1970s, rather than continuity with the tradition of the Church (contra SC 23)? With regard to this particular question, Cardinal Sarah said that:
We cannot dismiss the possibility of an official reform of the liturgical reform.
[Cardinal Sarah] then gave some (unexpected) news that Pope Francis had asked him to study the question of the reform of the reform and the mutual enrichment of the OF and EF that Pope Benedict XVI spoke of in the letter that accompanied Summorum Pontificum (see also Universae Ecclesiae 25):
When I was received in audience by the Holy Father last April, Pope Francis asked me to study the question of a reform of a reform and of how to enrich the two forms of the Roman rite. This will be a delicate work and I ask for your patience and prayers. But if we are to implement Sacrosanctum Concilium more faithfully, if we are to achieve what the Council desired, this is a serious question which must be carefully studied and acted on with the necessary clarity and prudence…
Cardinal Sarah ended with an appeal to all priests, which will be familiar to those who have read his recent articles and interviews in L’Osservatore Romano and Famille Chrétienne: it is very important that as soon as possible we return to a common orientation of priest and people eastwards in those parts of the liturgy where we are addressing God. This is a very important step to ensure that, in our celebration of the sacred liturgy, God rather than man is at the centre of it. The Cardinal implored all priests to implement this with suitable catechesis, and confidence. He suggested that the 1st Sunday of Advent this year would be a good time to start! Read entire report here
Cardinal Sarah suggested that the 1st Sunday in Advent would be a good time for priests to start to (or more accurately, return to) offering the [new] Mass facing east…
Well, to be honest, to those of us who have long since outed ourselves as having no intention of ever attending a novus ordo Mass again, family occasions possibly being necessary exceptions for some of us, it is neither here nor there if priests the world over choose to accept or ignore the Cardinal’s suggestion. Already, Cardinal Nichols has urged his priests to ignore it
Clearly, Cardinal Sarah is unlikely to enforce his suggestion. That might lead to “disunity” and, of course, we can’t have that… We must have the appearance of unity, at all costs.
So far, the “conservative” Cardinal Burke and Bishop Schneider have failed to stand the test of what little time has passed since they spoke out to defend Catholic marriage during the notorious Synod of the Family in Rome. They have effectively taken a vow of silence; and now Cardinal Sarah, widely hailed as the latest “traditional leaning” member of the hierarchy, is proving to be monumental disappointment, seeking a “reform of the reform” by suggestion with no sign of measures to end the imposition of the new Mass and restore the Church’s ancient Liturgy. He’s a nice cardinal, undoubtedly well meaning, but nothing more, as far as we can see at the present time. Ditto the other “conservatives” and ditto the alleged “traditionalists” who seem determined to wait until there’s no crisis any more before getting down to the serious work of restoring the Faith in the wider Church.
For some reason, the title of John Steinbeck’s famous novel keeps popping into my head: Of Mice And Men. And so, I make no apology for wondering if there are any real men left in the hierarchy, that is, men with some of the best of the masculine virtues in their soul, let alone men who have a grasp of what it means to be a Confirmed Catholic Soldier of Christ.
All clergy and hierarchy living through this unprecedented crisis, would do well to ponder the words with which Archbishop Lefebvre concludes his Open Letter to Concerned Catholics: If you wish to know the real reason for my persistence, it is this: At the hour of my death, when Our Lord asks me: “What have you done with your episcopate, what have you done with your episcopal and priestly grace?” I do not want to hear from His lips the terrible words “You have helped to destroy the Church along with the rest of them.”
Sadly, I couldn’t name one prelate in the hierarchy who is willing to speak out and guide the lay faithful. I think we are on our own. I must admit, if I need help or guidance, Catholic Truth is the first place I go to but it is the only place I feel we get the whole truth.
I agree. The only place we get the whole truth is here on the Catholic Truth site. Everywhere else, they’re playing safe.
I found an article on The Remnant about this and it was hilarious. I brought an extract and the video here, as it is really worth seeing.
And in perhaps the biggest laughter of the year, the good Cardinal Nichols also indignantly insisted that Mass was not the time for priests to “exercise personal preference or taste…”
Of course not, Eminence! Perish the thought.
In fact, here are a few of your English priests following no doubt some of your strictest liturgical guidelines:
Well at least they’re not facing East.
LOL! Cardinal Nichols has made a fool of himself!
And yet Cdl Nichols allows, supports and encourages openly self-confessed practising homosexuals to have their own special Masses in his diocese: http://www.lgbtcatholicswestminster.org
I knew that the Soho Masses had been moved to Farm Street Jesuit Church and that is what is advertised on the LGBT link, but do you think the Cardinal arranged it like that because the Jesuits are not under his authority – I’m sure that is what the Archbishop of Glasgow says about the Jesuits in Glasgow to distance himself from the scandals there.
Ultimately, the buck stops with him. He is the Ordinary of the diocese, and the Farm St parish is in his diocese, and if he said that group couldn’t hold Masses there, the Jesuits would have to stop them. But that will never happen as he encourages and protects the group. If the SSPX were to be invited to offer Mass at Farm Street, he’d stop it like a shot. Trust me on that one.
Fidelis, did you notice the rainbow coloured stoles?
Yes I saw at least one rainbow stole but does that necessarily mean homosexual sympathies or that he is a homosexual himself?
Thankyou for reply.
My own thoughts on the “stoles” is that they are a means of showing support for Cardinal Nichols position.
Fidelis, I actually did laugh out loud when I read your comment about Cardinal Nicol’s “English priests following no doubt some of your (the Cardinal’s) strictest liturgical guidelines!.
How ever, it also nearly made me weep to see such desecration of the Holy Place and such utter contempt for Our Lord both in the Tabernacle and in the Precious Species. May God forgive them for they (surely) know not what they do!
However, methinks the Cardinal does……
Reform of the reform, really? There is no way of reforming the liturgical disaster that began with Pope Paul VI Novus Ordo Mass. The following excerpts in this video link show nothing liturgical abuses.
Diabolical disorientation indeed.
It is dreadful, really scandalous! these sects have nothing to do with the Church…
Theresa Rose, exactly. The new rites are irreformable, and the suggestion, given legs by the New Liturgical Movement, that they are otherwise is, I believe, time-wasting wishful thinking. Too many intelligent and gifted people, including priests ‘attached to the previous liturgical forms’ are doing mental contortions trying to fit the new rites acceptably into the life of the Church, seemingly forgetful of how, why, and by whom they were invented. I am surprised and most disappointed that Cardinal Sarah is willing, apparently, to use his influence to further this vain movement.
A short while ago the lack of the ‘internal life’ in Catholics was suggested in this blog as a reason for the virtual collapse of the Western Church within a few years. I think this is particularly true of the collapse of the liturgy. Following on from Pope St. Pius X in ‘Tra le sollecituini’, Pope Pius XII in ‘Mediator Dei’ recognised that many of the contemporary faithful were failing to participate interiorly in the Sacrifice of the Mass, and he wanted better understanding of the Mass and urged that lay bilingual missals be widely used so that the Mass would be closely followed at every stage, and offered in union wiith the priest by all those attending. ‘Sacrosanctum Concilium’ followed this teaching exactly (SC 48):
‘The Church, therefore, earnestly desires that Christ’s faithful, when present at this mystery of faith, should not be there as strangers or silent spectators; on the contrary, through a good understanding of the rites and prayers they should take part in the sacred action conscious of what they are doing, with devotion and full collaboration.’
Sadly, there was generally little sign that Pius’s teaching was heeded, and Mass remained, for many, something they merely attended and watched.
That the ‘new rites’, together with the evils that have come in their, wake must be abolished and forgotten as a terrible aberration I have no doubt. We must go back to ‘Sacrosanctum Concilium’ – not to the inevitable waffle present in all the conciliar constitutions, but perhaps to that one paragraph quoted above, and then get back into the minds of the majority of the Fathers of Vatian II, most of whom voted ‘Non placet’ to the Bugnini Mass. Then the laity must be taught to understand and participate interiorly, offering the Mass in union with the priest, in Persona Christi, as the pre-conciliar popes taught.
Once again, ultimately it is a new Reformed Church which wants to replace the Church of Jesus Christ, a true “spiritual embezzlement”.
The confidant of Paul VI, Jean Guitton, did he not say to Michèle Reboul (Monde & Vie n°734 of 15th July 2004): “the Catholic Church died on the first day of the Council, leaving the place to the ecumenical Church”? Perhaps, but it is not the religion that we chose the day of our Baptism and to which we are committed. There would be, somehow, a “breach of contract” by the Authorities of the Church… (13th March 2014)
I think the behaviour of the reformers can lead to relativism, not evangelization and even less to the Faith!… The “evolving truth” cannot exist because God is in eternity and eternity remains immutable for ever.
We will have to bear their sacrilegious and their insults and persecution as long as God permits it, but beware of Justice on the day He will have rung the “end of recreation”!…
One can mock the faithful, but one cannot mock God with impunity.
Well said! I love your “… beware of Justice on the day He will have rung the “end of recreation”!
Brilliant! Fun over. Now for that reckoning!
Well, folks, that’s all very interesting – and shocking – but it’s not really what this thread is about. We’re well acquainted with the liturgical abuses that go on in the new Mass, even though not all are in the “strictly come dancing” category.
The key question here, though, is whether there is ever going to arise among us, a priest or bishop with real faith and courage to speak out against all of the above – and the attacks on Catholic Faith and Morals – Amoris Laetitia springs to mind.
The ones who were hailed as heroes at the time of the Synod (Cardinal Burke, Bishop Scneider) have gone to ground and Cardinal Sarah isn’t the “traditionalist” he’s painted – he is a very minimalist “reformer of the reform”. It’s much too late for reform of the reform. We want RID of the “reform” and only priests and bishops with that agenda are going to make a difference – i.e. only truly “traditional” priests are going to help restore the Faith. I’m afraid I’ve come to the conclusion that those with the “take it slowly” mentality, who seek to implement the “reforms” as they were originally intended to be, i.e. they’re still accepting of the new Mass, whatever the qualification, just don’t get it. We need the old Mass restored, the old “everything” restored. We need priests and bishops who understand that.
Personally, I am losing hope of ever finding such priests and bishops. What about thee? And thou?
Sorry Ed, I was answering Theresa Rose while you were posting that we were straying. Whaddya want? Blood? I’ll try to get with the plot after some shut-eye.
We need the old Mass restored, the old “everything” restored. We need priests and bishops who understand that.
Yes Editor, indeed we do! And may I respectfully request that our good novus ordo priests reread PRAESTANTIA SCRIPTURAE and MORTALIUM ANIMOS.
Do you mean before or AFTER they read The Tablet? 😉
The title of Steinbeck’s book is taken from a line from Robert Burns’ poem “To a Mouse” : “The best laid schemes o’ mice an’ men / Gang aft agley”. (The best laid schemes of mice and men / Often go awry.) (translation provided for us Americans!)
One can only hope that the best laid schemes of the enemies of the Church, and their useful idiots, go completely and utterly awry very soon. Meanwhile, it appears that our illustrious prelates have all gone to imitating either St. Peter when he thrice denied Our Lord, or Judas, His betrayer – and, just like in the Arian crisis, it is up to the laity to keep the Faith.
I found it chilling, to say the least, that Francis has asked Cardinal Sarah to take up the “reform of the reform” by mutually “enriching” the NO and the TLM. The last time we heard this, coming from the mouth of Pope Benedict, there was speculation in at least several quarters that the mutilation of the TLM was in the works.
As for what Sacrosanctum Concilium really intended, I think the only way to know is to study the original draft schema that was discarded by the aforementioned internal enemies of the Church at the opening of the Council.
As for Cardinal “Soho” Nichols, if any of his priests read this blog, I would urge them to ignore this Judas and pay attention to Bishop Fellay instead!
‘As for Cardinal “Soho” Nichols, if any of his priests read this blog, I would urge them to ignore this Judas and pay attention to Bishop Fellay instead!’
Do you want blood as well? As if his poor priests don’t have enough to do learning the latest dance moves 😁.
“Cardinal “Soho” Nichols,” – LOL!
Josephine, I cannot tell a lie. That was RCAVictor’s witticism 😁.
Tut, Tut, Christina, maybe he’s teaching them “The Gay Gordons” or how to vest in a tutu with proper decorum.
Also, they’ll be fully trained to confront an attack by sword wielding jihadists with the Dashing White Sergeant, the Military Two Step, or the St. Bernards Waltz.
Wonder if he’s selling tickets?
Gerontius, one thing he won’t want them doing is Mairi’s Wedding 😕.
I agree that there is no leadership from priests and bishops in the Church at this time. They’re all watching their backs.
However, I don’t see that the SSPX priests and bishops are any different. They seem to have a siege mentality, determined to stay out of the fray as far as possible, so their use is limited to providing the sacraments in their chapels, preaching to the already converted, if you will. People can come to them, but they won’t be going out to find the lost sheep.
So, I don’t know what the answer is. Something will have to give soon, as I can’t see us going on like this for much longer.
Well said. Unfortunately, you are absolutely correct about the traditional SSPX priests not being any different, for the most part. There’s a widespread lack of leadership from priests and bishops right through the Church today. The laity have been abandoned, really. We’re very grateful for the provision they offer at this time of crisis, but it’s a pity they are not more willing to work in the wider Church; I remember one of our Society priests joining us on the day of the Pope (Benedict’s) visit to Glasgow, when we handed out Fatima leaflets to the crowds going into the park. He told us later lots of people spoke to him in praise, saying how good it was to see a priest wearing a cassock on the street and doing this sort of work. If they’d had time to chat and listen to him speaking about the truths of the Faith and the crisis in the Church – WOW! What a lot of good would have resulted.
Anyway, there’s an interesting interview with Cardinal Caffarra on marriage and the family, AL and confusion in the Church at One Peter Five which touches on what Catholics should do in the present crisis situation: towards the end, this…
MH: What is your general recommendation, as a shepherd, to us laypeople, as to what we should do now in order to preserve the Catholic Faith whole and entire and in order to raise our children unto eternal life?
CC: Caffarra: I will tell you very frankly that I do not see any other place outside the family where the faith which you have to believe and to live can be sufficiently transmitted. Moreover, in Europe during the collapse of the Roman Empire and during the later barbarian invasions, what the Benedictine monasteries then did can likewise be done now by the the believing families, in today’s reign of a new spiritual-anthropological barbarism. And thank God that they [the faithful families] exist and still resist.
A little poem written by Chesterton brings me to this reflection; he wrote it at the beginning of the twentieth century: The Ballad of the White Horse. It is a great poetic meditation on an historical fact. It takes place in the year 878. The King of England, Alfred the Great, had just defeated the King of Denmark, Guthrum, who first had invaded England. And thus came a moment of peace and serenity. But during the night after the victory, King Alfred has a terrible vision [in Book VIII: 281-302]: he sees England invaded by another army, which is described, as follows: “… What though they come with scroll and pen [a strange army it is, indeed, which has no weapons, but pen and paper – Cardinal Caffarra], And grave as a shaven clerk, By this sign you shall know them, That they ruin and make dark; By all men bound to Nothing, …. Know ye the old barbarian, The barbarian come again.”
Believing families are the true fortresses. And the future is in the hands of God.” END OF EXTRACT
Visit One Peter Five to read the entire interview where the Cardinal contradicts Cardinal Schonborn’s statement that previous teaching on marriage must be read in the light of Amoris Laetitia; Cardinal Caffara says, rightly, of course, that it’s the other way round.
There is, of course, an obvious flaw in Cardinal Caffara’s statement that the Faith can only be transmitted within the family. Parents and now even grandparents, are victims of the last 50 sterile years when the Faith has not been taught to them, due to the flawed through to false teaching they’ve received themselves.
He must know that SSPX chapels are places where the Faith is transmitted through the true worship of God and sound sermons, which often teach the Faith in the context of the crisis in the Church so that congregations learn or come to see where exactly things have gone wrong in the wider Church. In various parts of the world, too, there are catechism classes, so he’s not being entirely honest when he says there is nowhere outside of the family where the Faith is transmitted. And I’m afraid the Benedictines, like every other order these days, is infected with Modernism. I’ve just been hearing about Carmelite nuns who use feminist language in their chapels, avoiding the use of the male pronoun whenever possible during scripture readings. So, that’s a major weakness in the Cardinal’s argument, although his correction of Amoris Laetitia and Cardinal Schonborn, and much else in the interview, is very useful and encouraging.
I see that your comment on the One Peter Five blog is being ignored by everyone! They keep congratulating Cardinal Caffari and ignore your comment about the SSPX being places where the faith is transmitted.
I guess they know there’s no answer to that, LOL!
I’ve just checked the One Peter Five blog myself and you are correct. Nobody but nobody has commented on my comment (and nobody has “liked” it – sob) so we can work out from that, that there’s not much enthusiasm for the Society over there at 1P5. Like Michael Voris, they’ll keep praising the middle of the road bishops and cardinals and think that the end is nigh if one of them so much as makes a suggestion that points in the direction of Catholic Tradition. Like Cardinal Sarah…
Ach well… One can but try…
I have just remedied your isolation from “likes”….
Thank you, RCA Victor! I can stop sobbing at last ! 😀 You actually LIKED my comment at 1P5! WOW! The future looks good for you, RCA Victor. Real cool, in fact…
One Peter Five has made clear that they are not supporting the SSPX. They published an article not very long ago saying that they were not taking sides on that issue. So they are happy to support the occasional public statement from a “mainstream” bishop, however weak, a “suggestion” as you imply, having no authority whatsoever and the only effect so far has been to let the modernists reinforce their propaganda.
The articles are interesting on One Peter Five, I agree, but they’re still not telling the full truth.
Just wanted to point out that the linguistic event (sic, Cardinal Schonborn) (and yes, Your Eminence, your are truly sick with Modernism) known as “the reform of the reform” is a non-starter, since the Novus Ordo is not a “reform” at all, but a completely and radically different liturgy, mostly parallel to the malicious theological surgery performed by Luther.
So technically, any effort to “reform” the Novus Ordo should be called “the reform of the revolution,” but even then it would be illegitimate, since the revolution is anti-Catholic and Masonic in spirit, as well as in application, and therefore cannot be mixed or blended with the true Faith.
This sort of project is nothing but the hermeneutic of disorientation, the hermeneutic of pride, and above all the hermeneutic of abject stupidity.
“…the hermeneutic of disorientation, the hermeneutic of pride, and above all the hermeneutic of abject stupidity.”
I think I can safely say that I’ve NEVER read a better description – which, in fact, applies to the entire Vatican II project!
Well (blankety blank) SAID!
The Modernists in the 80’s were full of this idea that doctrine is taught by parents, knowing full well that parents would not be able to do so adequately. I was teaching doctrine OK but the school were contradicting what I taught as teachers in the new revolutionary period of the New Church swallowed it all. By the way I have read the FSSP in Germany on Amoris Laetitia and now agree that you cannot instruct divorced and remarried people while they are living in full relationship. Perhaps it was just there are so many around that I had sympathy for their plight and their desire to be re-united, but it is for them to make the first step and not the Church
That’s a very humble post; it’s heartening when someone acknowledges a legitimate change of mind on examining the truth of the matter, and they don’t come more legitimate that yours!
Ho Hum, why am I not surprised!
Vatican rejects Cardinal Sarah’s ad orientem appeal
by Catholic News Service
posted Tuesday, 12 Jul 2016
At least Cardinal Sarah is trying!
I’m not surprised either. I am just surprised Cardinal Sarah hasn’t been sent to outer Siberia, LOL!
Don’t speak too soon. Any remote sign of being “traditional leaning”, however slight, (we’re not talking the leaning tower of Pisa) and the full force of the Dialogue Brigade comes down on the head of the guilty party…
The leaning tower of Pisa…
Oh yes. On that we can agree. Cardinal Sarah is VERY trying! As are all the other middle of the road prelates. Why don’t they just give up the ghost and join the real battle?
Note that Cardinal Sarah reports Pope Francis as having asked hm to look at ways “to enrich both rites”, that is, the New rite and the ancient rite. They just can’t help tampering with the ancient liturgy, which is already a pearl of great price. The answer is really simple: Toss the Protestant liturgy aside and return to the Mass of the saints and martyrs. That’s the only reform of the reform that I can see working. We need a reform of the Reformers if the Church is to regain her health, not a more Catholic representation of Protestantism.
Well said – a reform of the reformers is exactly what we need. I suggest leaving them in a room with you for about ten minutes… Job done!
I think Athanasius should enter that room with a pocketful of those dog treats he mentioned on another thread, to butter up those reformers before he lays down the law! (I started to also suggest lacing said dog treats with LSD, but the “reformers” have certainly been on that stuff since the 60s, so they won’t even notice the effects…)
That’s naughty! Love it!
I’ll go only so far. There’s no way they’re getting any of my dog treats, I love them too much to share!
It would have to be a room with padded walls to help me bounce some ideas off them!
I think that’s do-able… I think we can arrange a room with padded walls for you… 😀
Yes, it would make me feel more at home!
Yes, I kept that photo of you at home obviously enjoying the latest Catholic Truth…
Pope Benedict thought that in the end we would have a sort of mongrel rite – that’s what I read somewhere (probably on this blog! LOL!)
I think that is really what the aim is, in the Vatican.
Yes, I’ve heard a lot of rumours about this desire to hybrid the two rites into a sort of mongrel alternative that fits all. I think that experiment fell through with Pope Francis, though, His Holiness outrightly prefers the all-singing, all-dancing Novus Ordo.
I’ve just come across this somewhat amusing and rather succinct analysis of the propaganda reaction to Cardinal Sarah’s statement: https://hughosb.wordpress.com/2016/07/12/the-fallout-and-propaganda-cardinal-sarah-and-sacra-liturgia-2016/
That’s a brilliant article. And I LOVE the image headed “Which makes sense?” I’ve copied it for use in the newsletter in due course.
It is, as you say, an amusing and succinct analysis of the propaganda reaction to Cardinal Sarah’s statement.
Just think of the implications of the panicky reaction to even a small suggestion that might lead even SOME priests to restore the traditional “orientation” of the priest at Mass. Incredible.
Here’s another very good and amusing article on the subject of the wild reactions to Cardinal Sarah’s “suggestion”….
That’s a very funny article where the writer says he is going to list “ten things to know and share about Cardinal Sarah having his liturgical legs cut out from underneath him” and then he lists only 7. Then he pokes fun at Pope Francis by saying “I don’t really have an 8, 9, or 10. Besides, why does a “ten things to know and share” list actually need to have ten things? That just strikes me as rigid legalism.”
LOL! That is priceless!
What’s 1P5’s position on the SSPX and Abp. Lefebvre? Seems like he recognizes the NO is a disaster, but I was unclear on what he thinks should be done about it. Also wonder if he will recognize any similarities between the campaign of initial marginalization (later made much worse, of course) conducted against Abp. Lefebvre and the one just initiated against Cardinal Sarah.
I’d like to know the answer to that too. I’m trying to keep up with the blog from my sick bed so I’m looking forward to receiving this information.
He’s very weak on the SSPX – has never attended any of the Society Masses and wouldn’t recommend others to do so. Here’s the relevant article – the one which sent the alarm bells ringing in my head, so that I read everything from 1P5 with a very careful eye. I do have two (eyes) but one is specially trained to read 1P5 with extra care 😀
I hope this is the right thread for this: Christopher Ferrara’s latest article, mostly an extensive series of excerpts from Monsignor Michel Schooyans’ article on Lifesite news,a devastating analysis of the process of deception (“casuistry”) from which Amoris Laetitia emerged: http://fatimaperspectives.com/fe/perspective873.asp
Devastating, it is, truly. But why this: Schooyans does everything but name Francis as the leader of the gang, but there is no need to state the obvious. ?
There IS a need to state the obvious! What is it with priests that they don’t want to openly criticise this terrible pope? Are they angling for jobs with the Anything-But-Militant-Church outfit? Are they really that keen to be categorised as Michael Voris Think-a-Likes?
I meet a lot of very poorly formed and UN-informed Catholics who know enough to know that there is plenty that is shocking going on in the Church, but they think it’s the bishops, rogue priests – never the Pope.
Plain speaking time now. Say what you mean, and mean what you say. End of discussion (so to speak!) 😀
I agree! In fact, we should re-name this blog Catholic OBVIOUS Truth!!! 🙂 (Moreover, this Msgr. is, I believe, retired, so if he is somehow fearful of losing his job, perhaps he should cross that fear off his list….)
Those retired clergy irritate me no end. They have nothing to lose but the good opinion of their bishops. Who cares? I’m told the Scottish Bishops HATE me – well, that’s a relief. If I thought they even remotely liked me, I’d be deeply worried. Goodness, one of the Irish bishops has written commanding that I remove him from our mailing list. Little does he know that soon enough they’re ALL going to be removed from the mailing list, but more on that in September!
If those bishops hate you, I daresay you’re in good company. The best, in fact, if a certain Gospel passage holds true….John 15:18…and how about this mouthful: in the modern Church, the bishops ARE the world!
They really ARE the world! LOL!
Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake. Rejoice, and be glad…
On a positive note, last night I was privileged to attend Mass of a newly ordained young FSSP priest,and I had to restrain myself from applauding at the end of his sermon. Some of the items he mentioned: Bishops are more concerned with what the world thinks of them, rather than God…. pederast priests should have been thrown out of the priesthood and sent to prison instead of being protected…”Islam has always been the enemy of Christianity”.. the evil influence of gender politics.. same sex “marriage”…Catholics denied the richness of Tradition for 50 years….
One young woman walked out when he mentioned the “gay” issue; that’s always a good sign these days.
Needless to say he’s on my prayer list; the devil (not to mention the hierarchy) will be out for his scalp.
I like the sound of him – big time! Deo gratias!
“If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated me first.” Jesus Christ.
Lionel, our French blogger, emailed me the following video to add to our list of dancing priests … and now nuns…
Have they any idea how stupid they look? Don’t they realise they look idiotic in the extreme?
I agree that they look rather silly but at least they are not doing it in a church during Mass and also they are properly dressed as nuns! So much better than the scruffy anything goes sisters we mostly see here.
But why do it at all? Whatever happened to the dignity of the religious life? I just cannot imagine any of the Sisters who taught me at school, making such fools of themselves. Frankly, if they’re going to demean themselves by publicly dancing on a beach (or anywhere else) I’d rather they didn’t wear the Habit.
Are there any videos of any other respected professional group dancing with abandon like this in public? And doing it in the name of their profession, as these nuns are doing, both by wearing their Habits and setting up the picture of Christ?
I think it’s diabolical. However, I’m open to correction by others who may think it’s prudish to object to what some may see as innocent fun.
We’re somewhat off topic with these videos except in the sense that we are considering the mere suggestion by Cardinal Sarah that priests face the east when offering Mass, and the panicky response from other churchmen brings to mind the many scandals in the Church, including during novus ordo Masses, that go unremarked, tolerated and implicitly approved by the bishops – and Pope Francis. That tolerance and approval extends even to such behaviour as that we see among priests and nuns – singing and dancing priests and nuns are now almost commonplace. Anything and everything except teaching and preaching the authentic Catholic Faith is greeted with undiluted praise and joy. I just don’t get it – unless, as I say, it is from the Devil.
“I think it’s diabolical. However, I’m open to correction by others who may think it’s prudish to object to what some may see as innocent fun.”
The thing is, the Sisters probably do think of it as innocent fun and even making their life and the Church more relevant to young people. That doesn’t mean it isn’t from the devil as he can blind people to the reality just to get his way.
I agree that this is diabolical, in the sense that it is an expression – and a completely embarrassing one at that – of the new “liberty” (not to mention “equality and fraternity”) that has possessed the Church, literally, since VII.
Moreover, these nuns have obviously forgotten what wearing the habit means: “…the Vatican II document on the Adaptation and Renewal of Religious Life states: “The religious habit, an outward mark of consecration to God…”
Dancing like a bunch of giddy fools is, however, an outward mark of apostasy, besides being a complete disgrace to the habit, and to God.
They definitely look silly, I agree. I wish Sisters would realise that they don’t need to be pop stars to impress people. Even Protestants used to have a respect for nuns and priests. I can’t imagine what they are thinking now.
Undignified, embarrassing, excruciating, and deeply sad.
How fitting and amusing that even that dubious image of Our Lord kept falling down so as not to be a part of such a puerile display!
Maybe they are not afraid to make a fool of themselves for Our Lord. Can we say the same?
How is dancing “making a fool of themselves for Our Lord”?
I’d love to hear Santiago’s reply to you query, as I can’t think of any possible good reason for this humiliating display. What does it prove, Santiago? How will it serve Our Blessed Lord?
Humiliating to those of us with any sense. It is an utter lack of humility which gives rise to this nonsense.
At least the nuns are fit (apparently) and wearing habits. They are not dancing during Mass. They have attracted interest and participation.
I have been appalled at some abuses, but not so much here.
The fact that the nuns are wearing traditional habits only adds to the unedifying sight. Reminds me of a Hollywood version of how “Catholic” nuns should behave to get with the programme. .Urrghh…..
Perhaps good men are speaking out, but the masonic controlled media is silencing them.
If Amoris Laetitia is an attack on the sacraments of Marriage, Penance and The Holy Eucharist, what Pope Francis intends doing next could be much, much worse.
In this future Church, the Magisterium would consequently lose its raison d’être and Tradition soon be seen as irrelevant. What happens here is that the framework within which a Pope normally exercises his authority (his duty to act in conformity with Tradition) is blown to pieces, thus in principle investing the Pope with unlimited power to change or to ignore magisterial teaching.
So, in so far as my reading of the above-mentioned documents is fairly accurate, we are facing an attempt to destroy the catholicity of the Church and to undermine its very foundations. In other words, we have a situation – a situation unprecedented in the history of the Church.
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Well said. I think the time is fast approaching when Catholics are going to have to jump from their fences and take an unequivocal stand for Truth. Catholic Truth!
I’ve spent time today with the “obedience” brigade. It’s terrifying to see that blind obedience mindset still in place, even in the midst of this worst ever pontificate. It’s precisely this “Father knows best” mentality that breeds the papolatry we are seeing around us.
Well, it’s not possible to “obey” disobedient (to Catholic Tradition) bishops and remain real Catholics. As Archbishop Lefebvre said: “It is Satan’s masterstroke to get Catholics to disobey the whole of Tradition, in the name of obedience.” (Open Letter to Confused Catholics, page 133 – linked on our website Links page)
Until they get to grips with that fact, they’re going to stay in their sterile obedience-at-all-costs mindset, and Pope Francis will be laughing all the way to his next in-flight press conference…
I cannot but agree.
We are not obliged to follow legitimate shepherds when they teach heresy.
Poor Cardinal Sarah. But this Pope is strong with the weak, but weak with the strong. The poor African gets the papal jackboot, but worldly Germans bearing fat cheque books like Schoenborn and Marx have only praise heaped upon them when the spout the most poisonous theological tosh. (OK, Schoenborn is Austrian, but you get my drift.)
This Pope ain’t what he seems.
How true. Well said.
But, do I detect an underlying meaning to your closing sentence? Is there something that you know that we don’t know? If so, please spill!
That’s strange, but I think this Pope is actually what he seems.
Sandro Magister has published a follow-up on the Cardinal Sarah issue, in which it seems that the good Cardinal has not yet given up the fight: http://chiesa.espresso.repubblica.it/articolo/1351338?eng=y
I laughed heartily at the statement on the Vatican site:
“It would appear opportune to offer clarification…”
Hilarious! The Pope talks baloney day in and day out, and no clarification is forthcoming (probably not possible, to be honest!) but Cardinal Sarah’s very clear exhortation to priests, after due preparation and catechesis etc.to restore the ancient custom of facing east, requires “clarification”. Truly, are these mad mods for real?
Reminds me of the daft letters in the Catholic press at the time when the “new” (of course) translation of the novus ordo was being discussed after implementation. One of the correspondents, clearly writing while in floods of tears, begged that they be allowed to return to “the old Mass” – i.e. the one that is, at most, 50 years old, and said differently even in the same parish, depending on the priest’s latest whim.
You just HAVE to laugh, RCA Victor – yes?
I have to wonder how these people sleep at night. Or do they take after their mentor, who never sleeps at all?
Yes, RCA Victor,
I wonder the same thing. Do they have a conscience at all? Or, as Spiritus would say “at all, at all”?! 😀
Speaking of sleep, I’m having to hit the hay early. I caught sight of myself in the mirror earlier, and I could swear that I’m losing my looks… (although my humility is coming along just fine.)
So, beauty sleep, here I come!
This is interesting – the SSPX reaction to Cardinal Sarah’s suggestion where they say “Cardinal Sarah surprised the Catholic world recently with an address that should neither be surprising nor newsworthy. Its impact is discussed here” –
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