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  • Pat McKay

    Aye, let’s see ‘Queen Nicola I’ tell him NOW he’s ‘not welcome in Scotland’…..

    November 9, 2016 at 11:21 am
    • Lionel

      Please, can you specify who is “Queen Nicola I”?

      November 10, 2016 at 12:35 am
      • editor


        That’s a sarcastic title for the First Minister of Scotland – Nicola Sturgeon!

        November 10, 2016 at 12:50 am
      • Lionel

        Thank you Editor!
        I wondered if it was the Tzar of Russia Nicolas Ist

        November 11, 2016 at 12:37 am
  • Pat McKay

    I spent some weeks in Ohio back in ’79 (long story). As an impressionable young man, one of many things I was unprepared for was how seriously the ‘wimmin’s lib movement’ was being pursued over there.

    I heard this said….’I’ll believe in equality when I see a WOMAN President of the United States’…..Well, what a big ‘dissie’ for all those ‘feminist’ barmpots. Har, har, pigging har!

    November 10, 2016 at 10:44 am
  • RCA Victor

    If anyone comes across a new book called “Purgatory, Mary and Fatima” by Stephen Walford, and is thinking of buying it, think again and read the last paragraph of this column:

    November 11, 2016 at 12:56 am
    • editor

      RCA Victor,

      Done and dusted – and OFF my “must-read” list.

      How disappointing, too, that Matt Abbot is one of them… Perhaps because he has published stuff refuting the lie that the SSPX is in schism, I thought he was “safe”.

      I also understood that in the Seewald interview, Pope Benedict made that remark about being too “rationale” in the context of the Consecration of Russia: that he was “goo rationale” to believe that a simple act of Consecration would have the result of bringing a period of world peace.

      Whatever the context, those words are a very shocking and very public expression of his lack of faith.

      November 11, 2016 at 9:26 pm
  • gabriel syme

    A cartoon film is to be released next year, to mark the 100th anniversary of the Fatima apparitions:

    The producer says:

    “his is not a modern film of Fatima because we are going to tell the story about Fatima, but we are going to tell in a modern way.”

    Usually when the Church does things “in a modern way” it ends badly.

    A short clip can be see in the link.

    November 11, 2016 at 4:49 pm
    • Therese

      “his is not a modern film of Fatima because we are going to tell the story about Fatima, but we are going to tell in a modern way.”

      Looks FAB! Great comedy effect I must say. Effeminate – but beautifully coiffured – and confused looking “angel” crashing Disneylike through the clouds to land virtually at the feet of doe-eyed Barblie look-alike (dressed modestly of course – this is religious you know).

      I can just hear the pitch: “Listen, Larry, we have to sell this to the modern audiences, y’know? Go light on the drama, stick with the comedy.”

      “But, Hank, there’s isn’t any comedy in the message…”

      “Message, smessage. What message? Lots of fireworks and colour for the big finale, OK? But go easy on the doomsaying, y’know? It’s such a downer. We want to entertain, Larry, we want people to be happy, happy, happy. Geddit?”

      November 11, 2016 at 8:31 pm
  • Pat McKay

    I recall seeing this on TV some time ago, Ronald Reagan and wife were visiting Scotland and attending a Burns Supper. Poor Nancy was like the proverbial ‘fish out of water’, trying to keep up with all the palaver associated with addressing the haggis, etc. But Ronald was loving it.

    He made his speech and holding a dram aloft, came out with a brilliant one-liner when he said ….’your welcome is most cordial and your cordial is most welcome’…. Donald T., as we know, has interests in Scotland, so I expect he’ll be visiting sooner or later. He’ll get my vote if he can match that one-liner.

    November 11, 2016 at 7:37 pm
    • editor

      Donald Trump is, I believe, half-Scots. It’s the other half that people are complaining about…

      How’s that for a great one-liner!

      November 11, 2016 at 9:22 pm
      • Pat McKay

        I don’t know if either of his halves was following events at Wembley last night.

        Pink shirts! No wonder they played like a bunch of wee lassies. They should each receive a Barbie doll in recognition of their ‘efforts’.

        November 12, 2016 at 9:43 am
      • RCA Victor


        Since Trump’s VP-Elect is named “Pence,” I was thinking about writing a spoof on the old song from “My Fair Lady” – “Tuppence a Bag.”

        November 12, 2016 at 3:21 pm
      • editor

        RCA Victor,

        Feel free (so to speak.. get it????)

        November 12, 2016 at 3:40 pm
      • Spiritus

        It’s a good job that Mr. Pence’s first name isn’t Peter, or that his mother’s maiden name wasn’t Peters!

        November 12, 2016 at 11:05 pm
      • editor


        Priceless! “Peter Pence” would have had Papa Francis climbing the wall! He could get away (these days) with criticising the pro-life Donald Trump but to speak badly of the annual voluntary donation of Catholics worldwide, would be, to say the least, risky!

        November 12, 2016 at 11:33 pm
    • RCA Victor


      if you’ve ever seen the videos of the old Dean Martin Roasts on YouTube, your opinion of Ronald Reagan’s wit would be confirmed. He was a frequent guest on the dais, and was even roasted once himself.

      November 12, 2016 at 3:16 pm
  • crofterlady

    I wonder if this newly released material would be of interest to Scottish homeschoolers or indeed, to the ignorant masses?

    November 12, 2016 at 11:46 pm
  • cbucket

    Can we have a Donald Trump thread. I think he needs prayers. I think he is very brave should be congratulated. Remember the parable of the Good Samaritan.

    Please watch the video. If you do I think you will change your mind. He is a good man.


    I should add, in the video there is Trump saying he will protect LGBT which is very unfortunate but you must remember he is a product of his age. I am not saying he is the next Charlemagne but he may be the next Constantine.

    November 13, 2016 at 2:29 am
  • Athanasius


    Thank you for posting this video.

    I agree with you that Donald Trump is a man of genuine good will and I believe he will do great things for America. The only serious downside is his promise regarding the so-called LGBT community, although I noted that he made the case for protecting it from violence. He said nothing about promoting it.

    November 13, 2016 at 2:23 pm
    • editor


      Being of “good will” is not something that can be said of the media. I watched a Sky TV news item earlier today, where they showed a clip from Donald Trump’s 60 Minutes TV interview in the USA. The interviewer asked if he still planned to build the wall. Then, when he replied “yes”, she added “could it be a fence?” To which – after thinking for a few seconds – Donald replied, yes, that since some of it was already fenced, yes, some (SOME, note) might be fencing.

      For the rest of the news reporting, the headline was “Trump’s wall becomes a fence”.

      They are a bunch of liars and it just beggars belief that even a half-intelligent student of politics could take them seriously. Yet check out the Twitter feeds to see that they are unquestioningly “re-tweeting” the propaganda. That particular social media outlet is well named. Only a bunch of twits would give it house room – or should that be “computer room”…

      November 14, 2016 at 5:04 pm
  • Helen

    I just have to post this: What Might Have Been, prepared before the election results by the Remnant “just in case”:


    November 14, 2016 at 12:48 am
  • editor

    More humiliation for wee Nicola. This is just in from the No2NP campaign group (note: the links have not come through in the list headed IN THE MEDIA but I’m sure Googling the titles will bring up the reports, for anyone keen to pursue the information.

    Scot Gov ordered to pay petitioners’ legal bills

    The Scottish Government has repeatedly tried to claim the Named Person Supreme Court legal challenge failed, even though judges stated that they “unanimously allowed the appeal”.

    Now the UK’s highest court has ordered the Scottish Government to pay the legal bills incurred by those who brought the court case, in yet another humiliating ruling for ministers.

    The costs for the petitioners, who are all part of the NO2NP campaign, are estimated to top £250,000. The Scottish Government’s own bills will also be substantial, possibly bringing the total to around £500,000.

    NO2NP spokesman Simon Calvert commented:

    “The Government has been hammered on costs. This is a total and utter vindication of the legal action that we were involved in, and underlines how deeply flawed this illegal scheme was.

    “The Scottish Government argued we should pay our own costs. But the judges disagreed, awarding us our costs, further proving that we have been right all along.

    “Had the judges agreed with the Government spin that they basically won the case and just had to make a few tweaks to the Named Person law, the court would not have awarded us our costs.”


    The Herald: Half-million pound bill for bungled Named Persons law
    STV: Government told to pay legal bill of Named Person opponents
    The Scotsman: Government ordered to pay costs for named person court case
    Daily Record: Taxpayers facing £500,000 bill as SNP’s controversial named person scheme suffers another court setback
    BBC: Scottish government faces named person legal bill
    The Daily Telegraph: Taxpayer facing £500,000 legal bill over SNP ‘state guardian’ court battle
    The Times: Taxpayers face huge legal bill for named persons
    Daily Express: Scottish Government hit with £500K in legal fees as ‘Named Person’ scheme deemed illegal

    Thanks for your continued support.
    The NO2NP Team

    NO2NP opposes the Scottish Government’s plan to assign a ‘Named Person’ to every child in Scotland because it undermines families and diverts resources away from children who need them.

    November 14, 2016 at 4:57 pm
  • Clotide

    I think this comment below sums up the result of the election in the US. Sorry if off topic but well worth a read.

    11/15/2016 The painfully obvious reason Christians voted for Trump (that liberals just don’t understand) | Blogs | Lifesitenews
    From the front lines of the culture wars
    Mon Nov 14, 2016 – 12:44 pm EST
    The painfully obvious reason Christians voted for
    Trump (that liberals just don’t understand)
    Nov. 14, 2016 (LifeSiteNews) Since
    the election of Donald Trump, the level of meltdown on the Left has now reached proportions
    rivalling Chernobyl. University students at Cornell hosted a cryin,
    meeting together to weep at the fall of Hillary Clinton. As per
    usual, more hate crimes were faked, and every bit of potentially racist graffiti was pounced on as evidence that Trump’s election
    would result in vicious race wars. Actual violence and rioting done by angry progressives has been almost completely ignored. And
    then, the one theme that keeps recurring on talks shows across the nation: fear. As the result of Donald Trump’s election, many
    people, apparently, feel as if the leadership of the country is now fundamentally opposed to them in some way, and they are scared.
    Which is exactly how Christians have felt under Barack Obama for the past eight years.
    Many of my nonChristian
    and liberal friends find it bewildering that both evangelicals and Catholics voted overwhelmingly for
    Donald Trump, a thricemarried
    casino operator infamous for his vulgar trash talk. I want to take a moment to explain to them
    directly why most Christians voted for him anyways. It’s simple, really: Christians voted for Donald Trump because they felt that the
    threat a de facto third Obama term posed to Christian communities was an existential one.
    The attacks on Christians from the highest levels of government have been relentless now for nearly a decade. Obama wants to force
    Christian churches and schools to accept the most radical and most recent version of gender ideology, and he is willing to issue
    executive decrees on the issue to force the less enlightened to get in line. Christian concerns are dismissed out of hand as
    Meanwhile, Hillary Clinton informed one audience that Christians would have to change their beliefs on some issues. And now
    Christians are having conversations around the dinner table about what do if the government forces curricula on them that they
    cannot accept, because their own government is increasingly indicating that Christian parents are too homophobic and too hateful to
    teach their own children. Can you understand how terrified mothers and fathers are at the prospect that those in power want to
    actively prevent them from passing their beliefs on to their own children?
    11/15/2016 The painfully obvious reason Christians voted for Trump (that liberals just don’t understand) | Blogs | Lifesitenews
    Follow Jonathon van Maren on Facebook
    I can understand why those from some immigrant communities might be worried about how a Trump presidency could affect them
    personally—but as for the largely white liberal university students throwing a temper tantrum—what do you have to freak out about?
    No one is saying that you can’t pass your values on to your children. No one is saying you’re a bigoted, fascistic hater of minorities
    simply because you happen to have a different belief system. But they are saying that about Christians—and you were, too. And they
    mean it. The students weeping in fear at a Trump administration have nothing to worry about. No one’s going to cancel their
    Women’s Studies program or shut down their LBGTQ2etc Collective. Get over it.
    And then there was the rapid rise of rainbow fascism. Christian bakers are under attack. Christian photographers. Christian pastors.
    Real people are losing real businesses that they had labored for years to build. Their way of life is being destroyed. In some cases,
    Christian business owners saw the wages they needed to feed their families dry up because they were targeted by gay activists and
    labeled hateful, homophobic bigots simply for declining to assist in celebrating a gay union. That’s all. They just wanted to live their
    lives in accordance with their own beliefs, and because of that, activists came gunning for them. It wasn’t good enough to go down the
    street to any number of photographers or bakers who would be more than happy to help celebrate a gay wedding. They needed to see
    those little family businesses destroyed, even if it meant that the baker and his family ended up on the street. Dissenters must be
    These things happened, and are happening, and many of you shrugged your shoulders and thought to yourselves that the
    homophobes got what they deserved. You didn’t care about these people, and you didn’t respect their right to live out their beliefs
    because you thought there was something fundamentally wrong with those beliefs.
    And then there was the fact that Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton wanted to force Christians to fund the abortion industry,
    something many of you support because everyone babbles on about “reproductive rights” without ever talking about what abortion
    actually is. Abortion. Google it. I’m challenging you in all seriousness. That’s how I ended up involved in the prolife
    movement: by
    Googling it and realizing what abortion was. Take a second, and actually look at pictures of the dead babies, and then remember that
    Barack Obama even voted against protecting those children who survived abortion, and that Hillary Clinton defended abortion even
    in the latest stages of pregnancy.
    Is it really so hard for you to understand that those who fight tirelessly to protect these babies might be willing to gamble on the
    support of a brash billionaire rather than cast their vote for someone who thinks the youngest members of the human family are
    nothing more than soulless trash? I’ve seen an aborted baby before. I’ve held a butchered little boy in my hands. Maybe if you did,
    too, you could understand why we don’t think Hillary Clinton is a good person. We think her political positions directly result in dead
    children, because that’s the truth.
    This is not even to get into the fact that the Democratic war on religious liberty was so malicious it had them going to court to force
    nuns—a group called “Little Sisters of the Poor”—to fund birth control. Dissenters must be crushed, after all.
    The simple fact is that Christians voted in selfdefence.
    They voted to put the brakes on the relentless, eightyearlong
    assault not just
    on their values, but on their ability to live their lives unmolested without having radical progressives attempt to force some newly
    invented ideology down their throat or hang some new “phobia” label around their necks or garnish their wages to pay for medical
    exterminators to suction tiny human beings into bloody slurry. Most of these Christians are not activists. Most of them simply want
    to be left alone. But for eight long years, they weren’t left alone. And so this time around, they voted to give Obama and his
    progressive minions the hugest shove they could.
    Donald Trump may well prove to be destructive force. Time will tell. But for many people, he is currently destroying all the right
    things. Michael Moore wasn’t wrong to refer to Trump as a “legal Molotov cocktail” that the voters threw right through the front
    window of the elites. Secular progressives have been using political correctness to strangle the life out of Christians, calling them
    every name in the book and treating them like seething, hateful gaybashers.
    Now, the media saddled a man with every label they
    could possibly come up with—and he won anyways. Progressives created a system that would convict Christians every single time,
    replete with evershifting
    speech codes that informed any number of bewildered men and women that the hate they didn’t feel
    towards anyone was obviously there, anyways. And then a sledgehammer named Donald Trump showed up, and the harried and
    henpecked voters decided to use it to smash a system created specifically to marginalize and label them.
    What you have to understand is that Christians hear the media much differently than the rest of you. They hear themselves being
    mocked and ridiculed by men like John Oliver, who believes that a man with a penis can simultaneously be a woman. They hear
    themselves being cursed as awful people by Samantha Bee, who thinks that it’s perfectly okay to stab a baby in the skull in the third
    trimester of pregnancy. They hear themselves being called hateful bigots by Bill Maher, who claims to value diversity. And they may
    chuckle painfully, but they also know that they are loathed by those who are now demanding to know how they could possibly have
    voted for Donald Trump over Hillary Clinton, a woman who would have taken her own sledgehammer to religious liberty at the very
    earliest opportunity.
    11/15/2016 The painfully obvious reason Christians voted for Trump (that liberals just don’t understand) | Blogs | Lifesitenews
    We’ll have to see how a Trump presidency progresses. With men like Mike Pence around him, he may prove to be an ally to the
    Christians who cast their ballots for him last Tuesday. But even if he isn’t, Christians are simply relieved that he isn’t Hillary Clinton.
    As I pointed out prior to Election Day, most of us are quite aware that Donald Trump doesn’t care about abortion or religious liberty.
    But on the other hand, Hillary Clinton is passionate about abortion, and she is passionate about furthering her party’s radical social
    agenda. Even if Donald Trump does nothing for Christians, at least he’ll leave them alone. After eight years of Barack Obama, that
    would be a tremendous relief.
    That’s why so many Christians voted for Donald J. Trump.
    Follow Jonathon van Maren on Facebook

    God Bless

    November 15, 2016 at 5:06 pm
    • editor


      Crofterlady posted the above article on the USA election thread. Since this GD thread is about to close, I suggest anyone who wishes to comment does so there.

      November 15, 2016 at 5:21 pm
  • editor

    As we approach the absolutely deadline of 600 comments, this thread is now closed, with thanks to all who have contributed to it.

    To comment on the new General Discussion thread (no. 13) click here

    November 15, 2016 at 5:33 pm

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