Scotland To Ban Smacking… Childless Politicians Rebuked by Majority of Scots

Scotland To Ban Smacking… Childless Politicians Rebuked by Majority of Scots

Click here to read about the Scottish Government’s plans to ban smacking. Parents who choose to discipline their children with a timely smack, are to be criminalised – although we’ve yet to find out exactly how this crackpot law will be enforced. Below, a letter written by our blogger, Athanasius, which was published in The Scotsman Newspaper: 

LETTER from blogger, Athanasius (Martin Blackshaw) published in The Scotsman…

The arrogant interference in family life by Scotland’s political leaders is again on display as a recent ComRes poll, reported in the Scotsman, shows them at odds once more with parents, this time in the matter of smacking children.

Having already ignored the will of parents and the Supreme Court by forging ahead with their State-usurping Named Person scheme, it seems the next step in eradicating parental authority is to criminalise so much as a slap on the hand or the leg of a child.

They say it’s all in the interests of child safety and wellbeing, a red herring argument backed with endless liberal psychobabble about how smacking can scar the mind of a chastised child for life.

These are the same politicians who dismiss traditional Christian moral teaching in State schools, choosing instead to rob Scottish youth of its innocence at a vulnerable and tender age through sex education. That too is backed up with psychobabble despite a shocking decline in youth morality since the almighty switch from God to government began in the 1960s.

Well I have some news for our politicians, it is that I was smacked countless times by my parents when I was growing up and I love them for those corrections. Children, like adults under the law, have rules to obey if they are to enjoy true liberty. Parents understand this and that’s why they enforce the rules with the threat of physical punishment if breached. It’s a tried and tested method both privately and publicly over many millennia by authorities who actually had children of their own and truly cared for their welfare. Holyrood hippies take note! END.


Given that the majority of the politicians are childless who are leading this drive to criminalise loving parents for their choice of discipline, albeit that it may be a rare, even one-off, occurrence, it seems like a monumental cheek for them to set themselves up as experts in any aspect of childcare. How unreasonable is that?

Parents, on the other hand, tend to be even handed, reasonable to a fault when it comes to disciplining their offspring.  Some of them have even launched a group emphasising this parental reasonableness.  Click here to reach their website.  It’s great to see parents leading the fightback by refusing to accept this latest bullying attempt by the Scottish Government to take control of the nation’s families.

It’s time that the Scottish Bishops did the same, time that they exercised their duty to support parents in the raising of their children, by objecting, publicly, to this latest State intrusion into private family life.  But, will they? 

Comments (22)

  • Athanasius Reply


    In answer to what Scotland’s Catholic Bishops may or may not do in response to this latest interference by our politicians, I think the predictable answer is that they’ll stay quiet as they always do. Our bishops are more liberal politicians than the politicians!

    As for smacking children, I think it is fairly well understood that children rarely have to be smacked by their parents. The definite knowledge that it could happen is usually enough to keep most kids on the straight and narrow. The way these liberals go on you would think parents were generally and regularly kicking their kids up and down the streets. It pays for them to exaggerate as negatively as possible.

    October 22, 2017 at 7:22 pm
    • editor Reply


      Firstly, that is a great letter and something indeed that The Scotsman published it. Brilliant. Unfortunately, they no longer publish letters online, so we won’t be able to check for responses – please keep us informed.

      Sadly, you are right about that “predictable answer” – the bishops would, more likely than not, agree with the politicians that smacking should be outlawed. They never see the big picture, the truth – they are blinded to the truths of both Faith and Morals. No wonder there is never a word of criticism of them in the media.

      You are also right about the smacking – few parents want to smack a child, and fewer still would do so except as a last resort.

      And I dare say that few parents want to ground their child for a week, send them to bed early, or whatever punishment they choose, but choosing how to raise their children is the right of parents – not the State’s business. Especially a morally bankrupt bunch of politicians such as we are currently suffering. I wouldn’t trust them to look after my budgie for the weekend, let alone a child…that is if I HAD a budgie and if I were going away for a weekend, neither of which is the case. Still, a girl can dream, can’t she?

      October 22, 2017 at 8:38 pm
    • Fidelis Reply


      Your letter was great. I’m really pleased (and amazed) that they published it, knowing how biased the media is against “illiberal” views.

      I think you are absolutely right to say that not many parents have to smack their children, but they should not have Nanny State poking its nose into their homes to tell them not to, if they think it necessary.

      October 23, 2017 at 6:32 pm
    • Michaela Reply


      A really great letter, congratulations!

      I agree about the bishops. They don’t speak out on anything of importance any more, just PC bandwagon stuff.

      October 23, 2017 at 10:29 pm
  • Faith of Our Fathers Reply

    Ed . That’s the big point most of these so called Politicians are Childless and by their so called Marriages they most obviously intend to either adopt or stay Childless . Don’t know if you saw case in news of Teacher who has been suspended and taken to a Tribunal for STOPPING a 10 year old boy from Jumping out of a School Window .its implied he used excessive force in stopping the 10 year old from doing the deed by a Woman observer in the classroom. What kind of Society are we turning into when a School Teacher is suspended from his job for stopping a 10 year old from jumping out of a Classroom Window. The boy by the way was unhurt in this so called use of excessive force . Now lots of us has been in a Supermarket and seen a Child throw a Tantrum. My first thought when I see some silly parents try to talk them into being a nice child is ( pardon the saying) Tan their a—s . Now of course if a decent Parent does this the Police will be called .

    October 22, 2017 at 8:03 pm
    • editor Reply


      Even without the smacking ban, I could tell you of a number of cases where parents trying to chastise a disruptive child have been rebuked by onlookers. In one case, a toddler had thrown a tantrum and kicked goods for sale, which had been nicely arranged outside a shop, thus stuff thrown all over the place. When the mother raised her hand to smack the child (having warned the child over and over again to come to her side and stop running away) a daft wee teenager, about 19 at most, told her not to dare, she didn’t have “the authority to touch that child” – of course, she did, indeed, since Scots law, at the moment, does not prohibit such a smack, but only forbids hitting on the head, or hitting with an implement.

      Incredibly, only a few minutes later, in a supermarket, the same child began demanding a piece of fruit (only because they’d just reached the fruit department!) and when the mother said, “no” because the child had already HAD fruit that day – and she was on a mission to discipline her, since outside the house her behaviour routinely worsened, as she tested the boundaries – an elderly woman turned and said “O she’s entitled to a bit of fruit, get her a bit of fruit”.

      I only wish I’d been present on both occasions, because (case A) would have been on the floor along with the shop-strewn goods and (case B) would have found herself sampling the plums, wondering why her legs were doing the Highland Fling. I can’t stand that kind of interfering busy-body, in whichever generation. If I ever find myself witnessing such stupidity, I’ll not miss and hit the wall, as the saying goes – at least until hitting walls become illegal, as well! At present, it seems, only deviant sexual misbehaviour is legal!

      So, I have sympathy for young mothers in public with disruptive children because they can’t do right for doing wrong.

      Ridiculous case which you report of the teacher suspended for stopping a 10 year old from jumping out of a classroom window. Incredible. I tell you what, though – said child should be thanking the Lord that I was not his teacher. Put two and two together, and you’re sure to come up with four!

      October 22, 2017 at 8:23 pm
      • Fidelis


        I could also tell some stories of necessary smacking. I’ve never known a parent to gloat about smacking but always felt it was the last resort or a quick reaction to something unexpected that could have been dangerous.

        Also, I think we see the results of children knowing they can’t be physically punished in all the schools now, where chaos is rampant. I’ve heard stories from both ends of the scale – good kids irritated by badly behaved pupils in lessons and the teacher unable to do anything about it, and from teachers who say there is very little they can do, and so much paperwork even just to give them a detention.

        If this no smacking law comes to be, parents will be bullied in their own homes by delinquent youth. Will the State then pick up the pieces?

        October 23, 2017 at 6:37 pm
    • Fidelis Reply

      Faith of our Fathers,

      That’s what really gets me about these interfering politicians – most of them are childless and in Scotland most of the leading politicians are gay, so they have some nerve setting themselves up as experts on family life.

      October 23, 2017 at 6:33 pm
  • Margaret Mary Reply

    If people are already telling parents off in public before a smacking ban is brought in, what will it be like when it actually is against the law?

    I feel sorry for parents, I really do. They must be under tremendous pressure in this PC society.

    October 22, 2017 at 10:02 pm
  • Lily Reply

    That is a very good letter from Athanasius – well done to get published in a major newspaper like The Scotsman!

    This report is from 2008 when teachers were asking for the re-introduction of corporal punishment in state schools. What must it be like now, all these years later?

    It was a mistake to do away with corporal punishment, although I think some teachers used it too much for trivial offences. That should have been put right instead of throwing the baby out with the bath water and banning corporal punishment altogether.

    The arguments don’t wash; they said it would reduce crime, crime is rising all the time. Young people are much less disciplined and they know they can get away with disrupting school without any consequences worth talking about. This is now on the cards for home life as well, although I don’t think a lot of parents use corporal punishment. The fact that it’s possible, though, means it’s a deterrent.

    October 22, 2017 at 11:28 pm
  • John R Reply

    I read that the latest bit of stupidity is that Britain has objected to the use of “pregnant woman” in some treaty or other because to use it will exclude transgender pregnant persons!!! As if it is possible that a man who “changes” his sex can suddenly acquire ovaries, eggs and a womb!
    The lunatics really are in charge of the asylum.

    October 22, 2017 at 11:39 pm
  • editor Reply

    A father of a 21 year old told me over the weekend that when she was a toddler, she ran away from her parents, out onto a road and he raced after her and, in a reflex action, smacked her. He told her she had been smacked because by running out of the road like that, she could have been seriously injured or killed.

    What’s the bet that more and more serious instances will occur because of the craziness of parents being afraid of being arrested and charged with smacking – what punishments will be incurred we don’t know but taking the worst case scenario – and their children being put into care.

    Crazy, crazy, crazy people. No wonder politicians are the group least trusted by the public in just about every survey carried out since Adam first took a walk through that garden…

    October 23, 2017 at 9:58 am
  • Nicky Reply

    A piece of nonsense, the whole idea. It will be impossible to police this, and yet again the Scottish Government will present themselves as a bunch of inept clowns to the world.

    October 23, 2017 at 6:39 pm
  • Michaela Reply

    Here is an example of a bizarre punishment

    To be honest, I think the story may be false and the child murdered, but if true, it’s only a nutjob that would think that putting a 3 year old out in an alley for an hour was a better punishment than a swift smack.

    October 23, 2017 at 10:28 pm
  • Athanasius Reply

    Sorry to have been absent today – heavy day at work!

    Thank you all for your kind responses to my letter and for some excellent comments on this thread, which I have just enjoyed catching up with.

    I found an article on the Scotsman website last night, written by a woman defending the government’s “right” to ban smacking. There’s a “have your say” button at the end that allows readers access to a forum to leave comments on the piece. Well, there are countless comments on there, all supporting the right of parents to smack their kids and decrying the liberal establishment that is seeking to eradicate parental authority and bring all under State control. I was shocked by how many people came on to vent their frustration with this present liberal government, it cheered me up no end!

    October 24, 2017 at 12:28 am
    • Nicky Reply


      Is this the article you mean – nearly all the comments underneath are against the ban (the author is Chris Green, so could be male or female – a gender neutral name, LOL!)

      I think this is all about having a “first” for Scotland – being first country in the UK to introduce a smacking ban. The comments on the Scotsman blog are very interesting and make lots of very good points.

      However, the fact that the majority of Scots are opposed to the ban doesn’t mean it won’t happen. The majority were against “equal marriage” but they still brought it in.

      October 24, 2017 at 1:14 am
      • gabriel syme


        I think this is all about having a “first” for Scotland

        Bingo! That is how the SNP work looks for cheap / hollow victories to portray their governance as being ahead of the game / “progressive” / forward-thinking.

        What the Scottish people actually want doesn’t matter, only the opportunity for the SNP to heap praise on themselves is important.

        October 24, 2017 at 9:37 am
      • editor

        Gabriel Syme/Nicky,

        I agree – this is definitely all about saying Scotland is the first UK country to ban smacking. You can almost hear the “daradarada…I won!”

        October 24, 2017 at 3:31 pm
      • Athanasius


        No, this is the article I was referring to:

        I should have linked it at the time, sorry about that.

        I fear your right, it will matter very little how many Scots oppose this ban. Won’t have a government that gives a hoot what the electorate thinks about their policies. That mindset, however, will eventually bring them down.

        October 24, 2017 at 2:54 pm
      • editor


        Thank you for that – I’ve just posted a comment. Disquis is great – usually beats the censor!

        October 24, 2017 at 3:30 pm
  • Nobby Reply

    I support my views with the following excellent article.

    October 30, 2017 at 2:39 pm
  • editor Reply

    I’ve re-opened this thread since the Christian Institute have just published the following report from a sociologist who has told MSPs that they are living on another planet if they think smacking children is a form of violence…

    Here’s how the above report ends:

    Last week, Scottish police chiefs told the committee that a ban would mean increased costs for the force as officers spend more time investigating parents.

    Police Scotland also raised concerns that the ban could be considered state interference in family life, where parents are criminalised for behaviour that has been accepted for “generations”.

    Polling in Scotland has shown 74 per cent of Scottish adults do not want parental smacking to be criminalised.

    Be Reasonable Scotland, which spearheads the campaign opposing the legislation, said the Government needs to “back away” from the plans.

    With a sociologist, police chiefs and the opinion polls all united in opposing this ban, WILL the Scottish Government withdraw the legislation? Will my cooking ever improve?

    Put it this way: I’m banned from every cookery class in Glasgow. Fire brigade are refusing insurance to colleges which accept me as a student. So parents, brace yourselves for some real “me time” – I hear (from entirely UN-reliable sources) that the minimum sentence will be around 2 years 😀

    March 2, 2019 at 12:06 am

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