Nuclear Threat… Incredibly, Pope Francis Chooses Chat Over Consecration

Nuclear Threat… Incredibly, Pope Francis Chooses Chat Over Consecration

North Korea’s leader Kim Jong-un (right) may receive a surprising phone call from Pope Francis.

North Korea’s leader Kim Jong-un has faced opposition to his reckless nuclear programme in countries across the globe – now including the world’s smallest.

The Vatican City is desperately attempting to open a dialogue between Pyongyang and the Holy See in order to avoid a nuclear war.

The Pope wants to speak to despot Kim directly, a high-ranking cardinal has revealed, in what would be a historic and unexpected intervention.

Cardinal Peter Turkson of Ghana, head of the Dicastery for Promoting Integral Human Development, admitted he was not sure how this could happen but said dialogue was a priority.  

We are exploring the possibilities of speaking to [North Korea] directly – Cardinal Turkson.   Click here to read entire Newsflash


Why not “explore the possibilities” of consecrating Russia, as Our Lady requested, in order to be CERTAIN of achieving world peace?  Our Lady’s word is infinitely more trustworthy than anything North Korean officials will promise.  Why is dialogue a priority and not the Consecration of Russia? 

Comments (11)

  • westminsterfly

    If, as has been disclosed by several reliable sources, Pope John Paul II’s advisors cautioned him against publicly consecrating Russia, can you imagine what sort of advice the current Pope is getting, bearing in mind the sort of people he surrounds himself with? ! No, I still think that something terrible is going to have to happen to bring the Papacy/Church Hierarchy to its senses, because Pope John Paul II said in Fulda, Germany that the chastisement / tribulation could no longer be stopped, only mitigated by prayer

    November 13, 2017 at 11:28 am
    • Lily

      Westminster Fly,

      That’s an excellent point about advisors. If those around JPII were saying not to consecrate Russia, goodness alone knows what Francis’s advisors will be saying!

      It boils down to what Pope Francis believes. Pope Benedict made it clear that he is too much of a rationalist to believe that world peace will come through the fulfilment of the Fatima message – I copied this extract from his Peter Seewald interview In Light of the World:

      [Interviewer:] The homily you delivered on May 13, 2010, in Fatima struck a rather dramatic note. “Mankind has succeeded in unleashing a cycle of death and terror”, you proclaimed, “but failed in bringing it to an end.” On that day, before half a million of the faithful, you expressed a wish that is actually quite spectacular: “May the seven years which separate us from the centenary of the apparitions”, you said, “hasten the fulfilment of the prophecy of the triumph of the Immaculate Heart of Mary, to the glory of the Most Holy Trinity.”

      Do these words mean that the Pope, who, after all, is the holder of a prophetic office, thinks that within the coming seven years the Mother of God could actually appear in a manner that would be tantamount to a triumph?

      [Benedict XVI:] I said that the “triumph” will draw closer. This is equivalent in meaning to our praying for the coming of God’s Kingdom. This statement was not intended — I may be too rationalistic for that — to express any expectation on my part that there is going to be a huge turnaround and that history will suddenly take a totally different course. The point was rather that the power of evil is restrained again and again, that again and again the power of God himself is shown in the Mother’s power and keeps it alive.

      The Church is always called upon to do what God asked of Abraham, which is to see to it that there are enough righteous men to repress evil and destruction. I understood my words as a prayer that the energies of the good might regain their vigor. So you could say the triumphs of God, the triumphs of Mary, are quiet, but they are real nonetheless. (end of the extract of the interview)

      I don’t see Pope Francis doing the consecration unless it comes after a scene like the one published in the first part of the Third Secret. He lacks the faith, as did Pope Benedict and John Paul II.

      November 13, 2017 at 4:39 pm
  • Jobstears

    Truly incredible! The Pope appears to be more interested in making an “historic and unexpected intervention” than in consecrating Russia. I was not aware of Pope (?) Benedict XVI’s comment about being “too rationalistic” to expect world peace to follow the Consecration of Russia as Our Lady promised. Thank you, Lily!

    November 13, 2017 at 4:57 pm
    • editor

      Jobstears! Hello!

      Only the other day, a reader mentioned you and I assured her that you had not disappeared but had an authorised absence note! So you see, you are famous this side of the “pond”!

      I did know about the “I’m too much of a rationalist” remark by Pope Benedict in Peter Seewald’s interview, but I thought it was directly linked to the Consecration of Russia. From Lily’s extract, it seems to be applied more generally, simply to the “triumph” and the centenary year.

      Still, it’s an interesting insight into the mind of Pope Benedict in relation to the most important event of the 20th century – the Fatima Message, prophecies and promise of world peace following the Consecration of Russia. The contemporary popes will hardly go down in history as great men of faith – quite the opposite.

      November 13, 2017 at 6:40 pm
      • Jobstears

        Thank you, Editor, for the authorized leave of absence!!! I have one more hurdle to clear tomorrow and that should, God willing, be the last one.

        Hearing the news of the earthquake in the Iraq/Iran region this morning, on top of the other humanitarian and natural disasters all around the world, I could not help wondering what it would take for the pope to heed Our Lady’s message – and then I saw this thread on CT!! So much suffering could be averted.

        November 13, 2017 at 7:55 pm
  • Margaret Mary

    I found this short video Q & A with Fr Gruner, RIP, about the claim that Putin asked Pope to consecrate Russia.


    November 13, 2017 at 8:04 pm
    • editor


      Every time I’ve tried to watch that video, I get interrupted so I’ll try again tomorrow.

      Right now, my beauty sleep beckons. Say nothing!

      November 13, 2017 at 11:36 pm
    • editor


      I’ve been able to watch only a little of the video clip but found it most interesting that Pope Benedict sent a delegation to Moscow and very interesting that they got the message “wrong”, that they have failed to grasp the fact that Russia is a instrument of Heaven not the bad guy, so to speak.

      Just astonishing to think that Fr Gruner RIP is probably totally right and that these popes just do not understand the Fatima Message. Crazy!

      Look forward to watching the rest asap.

      November 14, 2017 at 4:57 pm
  • Lionel

    Still he would have to believe in it? and it is not sure…

    November 13, 2017 at 11:16 pm
  • Fidelis

    I’m not sure I believe we’re on the verge of WW3 – this report was saying it was “imminent” in March, 2016!

    November 14, 2017 at 7:44 pm
    • editor


      Best not to worry about the possibility of WWIII – focus, instead, on getting the Pope to consecrate Russia!

      November 14, 2017 at 11:15 pm

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