UK: At 16, No Tobacco Or Alcohol But You CAN Change Your Gender…!
From Voice for Justice UK…
Have they really thought about this?
The Government has now published its response to VfJUK’s petition calling for the prohibition of all medical treatment for gender reassignment below the age of 18. The petition was posted on 1st January, and the Department of Health and Social Care posted a direct response on its website on February 20th.
Read our petition here: http://www.citizengo.org/en/signit/147194/view
Read their response in full here: http://www.gov.uk/government/news/voice-for-justice-uks-campaign-about-gender-reassignment
You may be unsurprised to learn that The Department of Health and Social Care is blandly reassuring, while not giving an inch on policy. They write:
“If children have the capacity to give consent for themselves, then consent should be sought direct from them. Once young people reach the age of 16, they are presumed in law to be competent to give consent for themselves for their own surgical, medical or dental treatment, and any associated procedures, such as investigations, anaesthesia or nursing care.
Those under 16 are not automatically presumed to be legally competent to make decisions about their healthcare. However, the courts have stated that a person under 16 will be competent to give valid consent to a particular intervention if they have “sufficient understanding and intelligence to enable him or her to understand fully what is proposed”.
The Department ignores entirely the fact that as a society we routinely protect children from making choices they might in the future regret. For example, we prohibit the sale of tobacco to children under the age of 18; similarly with the sale of alcohol; and, although widely ignored, sex under the age of 16 remains a criminal offence.
But there are no such reservations apparently when it comes to the truly momentous and life changing decision to undergo treatment to change sex. Indeed, from age 4 we are now encouraging children to choose their gender for themselves, telling them they don’t have to be limited by biology! And it seems, from the Department of Health and Social Care response, that we will persist in this, even though there is now growing evidence of children subsequently regretting their decision and asking for reversal.
When will this country wake up and tell the ideologues they’ve got it spectacularly wrong? Adolescence is notoriously a time of confusion and experimentation, with children pushing the boundaries to find out who and what they really are. It’s a time to rebel and make mistakes in relative safety, knowing that parents are there to pick up the pieces.
But this modern approach changes that. Propelling children prematurely into treatments that will necessitate the rest of their lives spent on damaging medication and surgical mutilation is not compassion. It is prioritisation of ideology and a failure of care.
What does protection of children’s rights really mean? Protection to grow up in safety? Or ‘protection’ to make life changing and potentially irrevocable decisions that they may in the future bitterly regret?
Children have neither the intellectual nor emotional maturity to make such life changing decisions.
VfJUK will shortly respond formally to the Department of Health and Social Care. We shall circulate our reply and would urge supporters also to write.
The petition is still open.
Please sign here: http://www.citizengo.org/en/signit/147194/view
Comment:
Surely the same tax-payers who are complaining about inefficiency in the National Health Service will refuse to accept this waste of money? It is unthinkable that the Government will authorise NHS funding to be spent on – to say the very least – totally unnecessary surgery, based, not on health needs but on a ridiculous – clearly demonic – ideology. If not, why not? Is the Government, not to mention the medical profession, completely mad? Is the UK population so devoid of all ability to think critically that they will go along with this dangerous stupidity, allowing children to be used as guinea pigs in the attack on our very humanity which is the “transgender” experiment? Share your thoughts – I know what I think…
Comments (30)
This short (2 mins) video clip on the subject is thought-provoking…
[youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KGst5J8Oq0&w=854&h=480%5D
Ed I could certainly share my thoughts although most unfortunately would be unprintable. What I can al try my best . How in Gods name can a Mother or a Father say that we Johnny now wants to be we Jeanny because we Johnny was wearing we Jeannys skirt and liked to dress up . It’s completely insane . What if I go into my Docs tomorrow and say ” Well Doc I want to be a woman” they have to act on it instead of locking me up . How can a perfectly healthy young woman go into a Doctors and demand to become a man. Gender Bender is just Evil Garbage. What about the Guy or maybe it was a Woman who has Yo Yoed back and forward who was on TV and is now going through her / his fourth transition. As you say about our Health Service we may lack money but not for this Insanity. I watched one were it was that Guy who is Homosexual Himself and is now a celebrity Transgender Doctor was talking to, I think it was a Man who had went through the full [procedure] . The Idiot said to him ” Well that’s you a real Woman Now ” no It isn’t.
FOOF,
Much as your comment made me smile a sardonic smile, I had to take the surgeon’s knife (so to speak) to parts of it. Suggested remedy: as you type, just keep muttering “this is a Catholic blog, this is a Catholic blog…” and you won’t go far wrong 😀
I think the surgeons knife (naughty, naughty) should be used as well on the illustration of the person relieving him/herself in the ladies toilet.
Frankier,
Just goes to show how different people interpret things differently. I saw the “trans woman” as standing at a mirror fixing her face. Never occurred to me, what you said might be the case, not for a second. LOL!
I couldn’t remember where I’d heard the saying “to the pure all things are pure” so looked it up and it’s in Scripture! Here it is:
“Titus 1:15 15To the pure, all things are pure, but to those who are corrupted and do not believe, nothing is pure. In fact, both their minds and consciences are corrupted.”
I rest my case, LOL!
There was a man on TV this morning saying he wants to transition to an elf. It’s beyond the pale, now.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4468954/Man-spends-25k-plastic-surgery-elf.html
You can see him on this video clip.
http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/reality-tv/news/a850528/this-morning-luis-padron-man-turned-into-elf/
How can anybody refuse him the help he needs though? If it’s OK to trans from male to female, why not to becoming an elf or any other fantasy figure of your choice, LOL!
MM,
When I come across this sort of craziness, I usually say “truly, you couldn’t make this stuff up” but when I read that report and watched the video clip, I almost said “honestly, HAS someone made this stuff up?”
Incredible. It’s true: those whom the gods would destroy, they first make mad.
Margaret Mary,
I’ve been waiting for the other shoe to drop with this depravity, i.e. trans-species surgery. Looks like the first step has now been taken. Wonder how they’ll try to re-design bathrooms for people who claim to be horses or goats?
Hmm….I wonder: if I identify as Columbo, would Editor give me a raise?
RCA Victor,
If you identify as Columbo, you’re DEFINITELY guaranteed a raise!
That really takes the biscuit – a man who has his ears cut open and his jaw broken +++ in order to become something that doesn’t even exist, in reality! This takes the trans madness to a whole new level. If this isn’t mental illness, what is?
Now can those surgeons square taking this man’s money to do this, with their consciences?
Lily,
That’s a very good question about the surgeons. I wonder if they have a conscience at all. It also begs the question of whether someone seeking such ridiculous surgery ought to be taken into care, given counselling at least for a time. This whole industry is immoral, no doubt about it.
This is totally abhorrent ..to achieve what all that pain and cost ?
It just proves the depravity of the people who do these operations ……and the mental instability of the people who want it ..
Despite being sponsored by the TFP, this is a good expose of this insanity (I think I’ve posted this before):
[youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s57T27M1ZXk&w=640&h=360%5D
RCA Victor,
Just dipped into this video – I will finish viewing later, despite it being a production of the TFP… after all, they’ve gotta be right about something, sometime 😀
When archaeologists examine skeletal remains, perhaps buried for hundreds of years, they can identify whether the remains are those of a male or a female.
As I understand things, the pelvic bone structure in the female is ‘roomier’ than that of the male. Now, since the female by the Creator’s design is the child-bearer, this would appear to have some logic about it. So, the very idea that anyone can ‘change’ their gender is patent nonsense. But, as always, there is a bigger scheme of things afoot with something as sinister as this.
What have you got against TFP? They seem ok to me.
TFP push the Vatican party-line on Fatima. CT did a thread on them before:- https://catholictruthblog.com/2016/07/04/is-tradition-family-property-a-cult
WF,
Thank you for digging that out – it crossed my mind to do that but I let it go on crossing, so now I can cross it off my list of things to do!
http://orig05.deviantart.net/4979/f/2010/267/5/6/sleeping_by_arisusa-d2zd2x2.jpg
Yes, I mind that thread but that doesn’t make TFP wrong in everything they say!
Helen,
I more or less said that above, in response to RCA Victor. Still, I don’t generally bother with sources upon which I can’t entirely rely. Call me an old fusspot if you
darewish 😀Reblogged this on lovehappinessandpeace and commented:
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TERRIBLE law, of course.
But, like people who change their sex, (I simply cannot understand Why anybody would want to do that),
It would seem that One of the Requirements to become a Law-Maker is to Throw Away your brain.
Yuck.
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Swamiyesudas
Welcome! And thank you for re-blogging this thread. The more we spread the word that we’re not ALL going along with this nonsense, the better. I paid a quick visit to post a “thank you” comment over there.
I couldn’t agree more with your concluding sentence. Spot on!
Thank You, and Regards. 🙂
I have a question about this madness: since the terms “male,” “female,” “man,” “woman,” “boy,” “girl” etc. are now “discriminatory” – according to the PC thought police – aren’t men who claim to be women/vice-versa, boys who claim to be girls/vice-versa….discriminating against themselves? Horrors!
And here’s another question: why can’t homosexuals and lesbians be cured of their disorder by simply claiming to be members of the opposite sex? Zounds!
RCA Victor,
I’m sure the cartoonists could have a field day with this whole transgender nonsense, if, that is, they don’t mind risking prison!
Joking aside though, you highlight an important issue; what’s to stop someone trying to dodge the authorities, pretending to be the opposite gender. Paul Smith could suddenly present (identify as!) Pauline Smith and Bob’s your uncle (so to speak!)
Either the world just got crazier or I’ve suddenly become even MORE intelligent than I used to be when the world was full of men and women.
I noted the ultra-politically correct BBC are not even describing these people as ‘transgender’ any more. The other day, there was a story in the newspaper about a ‘transgender woman’ who was spared jail after pushing an off-duty policeman onto rail tracks, having drunk four bottles of prosecco (!) The same night, the BBC covered the story on the London news programme, but simply referred to the defendant as a ‘woman’ throughout the coverage.
The update below, from the Coalition for Marriage, has just arrived in my inbox… As usual, Scotland takes the lead in pushing depravity:
SCOTTISH TRANSGENDER PROPOSALS THREATEN THE FAMILY
Dear marriage supporter,
We have published our guidance for supporters on the Scottish Government’s proposed changes to the 2004 Gender Recognition Act. It may be downloaded here
https://www.c4m.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/C4M-Scotland-Briefing-Final-1.pdf
Those changes under consultation include:
• Allowing any person to change their gender by law without either seeing a doctor first, a step which would remove the main protection against bad faith from the current system;
• Removing the requirement that a married person who changes gender may only do so with the permission of their spouse, thus potentially forcing people into ‘same-sex marriages’;
• Not requiring that any person who changes gender live first as a member of the opposite sex;
• Allowing children to legally change their gender at 16 or 17-years-old;
• Allowing even younger children to seek to change gender without parental consent at any age by appealing to the courts.
The present laws on gender are far from ideal. However, the reforms proposed by the Scottish Government have the potential to be even more harmful to marriage and the family. So many of you generously donated your time to responding to the consultation on relationships and sex education in English schools earlier this month.
We apologise for having to ask again so soon, but we do urge all supporters to consider making a response to the consultation. It runs until 17:00 on March 1st. Our sincere thanks to all who respond.
Westminster may impose same-sex marriage on Northern Ireland.
The Secretary of State for Northern Ireland Karen Bradley has said that in the event of a private member’s bill at Westminster to introduce same-sex marriage in Northern Ireland, the Government would allow a free vote.
Given the continued rejection of same-sex marriage at the Stormont Assembly, any bill which allowed Westminster to impose values not held by the voters of Northern Ireland would be both unjust and undemocratic.
As I wrote in The Conservative Woman last week, Westminster’s politicians should have much more pressing concerns when it comes to marriage and the family.
US lawmakers: same-sex marriage is parody marriage
A group of legislators in South Carolina have proposed renaming all marriages not between a man and a woman as “parody marriage[s]”.
Six Republican House members have filed the Marriage and Constitution Act which argues that same-sex marriage is part of “the religion of Secular Humanism” and as such is unconstitutional.
A similar bill has also been proposed in Wyoming, part of a fightback by activists three years after the Supreme Court imposed same-sex marriage on all states in the Union.
Yours sincerely,
Thomas Pascoe
Campaign Director
Coalition for Marriage (C4M)
Just came across this in a letter to Tradition in Action:
“In addition, the new teachings from the LGBT community is that they wish to be called non-binary, and the pronouns we should all use from now on include: hir (pronunciation “here”) used in place of her or his, and ze in place of them and their. I suspect there are more “rules” we must follow to conform to their wishes.”
I propose a slightly different method of address: GET THEE BEHIND ME, SATAN!
RCA Victor,
I agree – GET BEHIND ME, SATAN is correct.
Truly madness abounds.
Great Speech! Vive la France!
[youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nauLvg_atJI&w=854&h=480%5D
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