Hate Speech: Former Irish President Calls Catholic Teaching “Evil”…

Hate Speech: Former Irish President Calls Catholic Teaching “Evil”…

Former Irish President Mary McAleese has described the Catholic Church’s teachings on homosexuality as “evil”.

But McAleese also said that she was hopeful that the Pope Francis will eventually change the Church’s homophobic attitudes.

She said that Pope Francis “exploded that myth” that the Church can’t be changed and she believed he could now rid the Church of its “homophobic messages”.

The former Irish President also accused the Pope of having “bad manners” and being “disrespectful” for failing to reply to a letter she recently wrote to him. She had penned him a letter after an attempt was made to exclude her from an international women’s conference in Rome.

“I had faith in this pope and it would be wrong to say anything other than I am disappointed,” she said.

McAleese made her comments when receiving the inaugural Vanguard award for her support for the LGBT community.

Speaking at the award ceremony, Sarah Williams, chairperson of the Board of the GAZE LGBT Film Festival said: “Dr McAleese’s unwavering support for the advancement of the LGBT+ community has been widely acknowledged and praised, and we felt very strongly that we wanted to present her with this award this evening to mark her achievements.”
And Filmmaker John Butler said: “It’s an honour to present this award to a life-long hero of mine, what an inspiration and what a contribution to Irish life!”  Source

Comment: 

Just imagine for a second if Mary McAleese had described the teaching of Islam on homosexuality as “evil”  or the teaching of Judaism on homosexuality as “evil” – can you just imagine the ruckus?  But the teaching of the Catholic Church on homosexuality (or anything else) well, that’s fair game.  No hate speech here, move along. 

You must not say a word out of place about Islam or Judaism, on pain of being labelled Islamophobic or Anti-Semitic, and finding yourself the subject of a police complaint.  But anti-Catholic? Bring it on…

Is there any point in lodging an official complaint about Mary McAleese’s bigotry, her attack on the Church which, if applied to any other religion would fall foul of ‘hate crime’ laws – or will Catholics simply do what we’ve always done, turn the other cheek, make every attempt to “love our enemy” – and, believe me, McAleese is an enemy of the Catholic Faith.  Mind you, so is Pope Francis, whom she applauds for his attempts to change Catholic teaching.  Now that he’s undermined traditional teaching on capital punishment, is the ultra-feminist/pro-“gay”  former Irish President likely to see a similar change to the Catechism paragraphs on homosexuality?  Don’t get me wrong; no pope has the authority to change the moral law, and when good order is restored to the Church, the damage done by this disgraceful pontiff will be put right. No question about it. Still, given that he has form on “revising” the Catechism, might he re-write the prohibition of homosexual activity, just for the hell of it (so to speak…) 

Share your thoughts – which is worse: the bigoted, hate-filled Mary McAleese, or her sometime idol, Papa Francis? Or, is it a case of “you pays your money and you takes your pick…”?  

Comments (20)

  • Petrus

    I think the real bigot here is Mary McAleese herself. What an enemy of the Faith! I don’t know why this woman doesn’t go and join the Church of Ireland. She was very quick, as President, to receive “Holy Communion” in the Church of Ireland cathedral, so if she detests Catholic Doctrine so much, she should full embrace the Protestantism, as she a de facto Protestant already.

    Isn’t this yet another indication of how much of a cesspit Ireland has become? I feel heart sorry for the faithful Catholics in Ireland. It’s bad enough here, but at least our establishment aren’t Catholic, whereas in Ireland, it’s the “Catholics” who are the worst!

    Of course, Pope Francis has to shoulder some responsibility. He has now opened the flood gates and people believe anything and everything can be changed. I dread to think what his visit to Ireland will bring, I really do!

    August 7, 2018 at 8:58 pm
    • Faith of Our Fathers

      I didn’t even know that McCalese had taken Communion in a Protestant Church my God and this spiteful so called Catholics calls us Hateful. She would lick anyone’s boots ( and that’s me being polite ) for a couple of extra pounds . That her Son is a so called Married Homosexual doesn’t let Her off the Hook . Also that she was so outspoken about the goodness of Abortion in Society speaks volumes for the Wummin. She also said that she need not go to Confession as a Catholic. That Mary is because your not one . You rescinded that privilege when you took Communion in another Faith. As for Ireland I only visited it once in 1982 the year after the Hunger Strike Deaths and once was enough. If these Men saw how their Country was going to turn out . It Would Shame All The Devils in Hell .

      August 7, 2018 at 10:16 pm
    • Faith of Our Fathers

      Petrus as you say it’s the so called Catholics who are by far the worst. Also in my opinion and I think that most if not all on here would be the same . That there is nothing worse than your own kind once they turn against you . Ireland unfortunately has a history of that . And it just doesn’t apply to recent times .

      August 7, 2018 at 10:35 pm
  • Margaret Mary

    As someone who is of Irish extraction, I’m appalled at the state of Ireland now and this attack from a former Irish President, just makes me want to weep. This pope also makes me want to weep.

    Mary McAleese has a gay son and that is why she is so pro-LGBTQ. She’s obviously not been a properly catechised Catholic herself to begin with, and there are many more like her, unfortunately.

    Nobody will lodge a complaint of hate crime. That’s not the Catholic way. That’s why the Church gets all the stick while the non-Christian religions are off limits when it comes to criticism.

    August 7, 2018 at 9:35 pm
  • dale thorn

    The truth is, her attack on the Church is just a foot in the door for her agenda. She knows as well as you that the Catholic Church is much more forgiving of the homosexual as a person than the Muslims. Both religions condemn the act, but Muslims typically also condemn the person with civil punishment.

    August 7, 2018 at 9:53 pm
    • Laura

      Dale Thorn,

      You are so right – in Muslim countries homosexuals are thrown from high buildings, or so I’ve heard. I presume that comes from having a Muslim government, and not necessarily from the Koran itself – at least I sincerely hope not.

      August 8, 2018 at 9:45 pm
  • liberanos

    It’s all about her.

    August 7, 2018 at 11:07 pm
  • Lily

    Yes, I agree, it’s all about McAleese wanting to be in the limelight.

    August 7, 2018 at 11:41 pm
  • Frankier

    She is what is known as a horrible, horrible, horrible creature and has been for a very long time. Probably from birth.

    What good is the power of excommunication if it isn`t bestowed on saddos like her?

    August 8, 2018 at 12:43 am
  • RCAVictor

    If you look at the language she uses, it’s the same as everyone else in the LBGT crowd. There’s an exact moral inversion: the LGBT self-hating freaks use stock buzz words to attempt to elevate themselves to some sort of moral high ground, and the opposite stock of buzz words to condemn the Church and anyone else who tells the truth about them. Truth is hate, lies are truth. Gee, I wonder where that mentality could have come from?

    They are all brainwashed, trained in the same propaganda, possessed by their sins. As for this nonexistent entity called the “LGBT community,” there’s no such thing, unless you want to call people addicted to perverted sex, promiscuity, pornography and orgies a “community.” Give me a break!

    This woman also displays the mental instability typical of these people: she can’t make up her mind whether she approves of Francis’ heresies, or whether she should stick up her nose at him because he didn’t answer her letter! Maybe she’ll huff and she’ll puff and she’ll blow his house down….

    August 8, 2018 at 3:09 am
  • gabriel syme August 8, 2018 at 7:51 am
    • editor

      Gabriel Syme,

      Brilliant! Shows her silliness perfectly.

      I wonder how many people have written to HER and received no reply. Let’s test it. I’ll send her the link to this thread and we’ll soon see if she always answers correspondents.

      I know, I know… I’m a very bad girl 😀

      A short time later…

      Dear Mrs McAleese,

      We are discussing your description of Catholic teaching on homosexuality as “evil”, on our blog, and agreeing that since your comments refer to the Catholic Church and not to Islam or Judaism, nobody will charge you with a “hate crime” or accuse you of hate speech. We would welcome your comment on this fact. Given that both Islam and Judaism prohibit homosexual activity, considering the sin of Sodom to be displeasing to God, did you mean to include those religions in your criticism of Christ’s Church, or do you limit your remarks as applying only to the Catholic Church?
      https://catholictruthblog.com/2018/08/07/hate-speech-former-irish-president-calls-catholic-teaching-evil/#comment-63771

      I look forward to your reply.
      Signed, Editor, Catholic Truth

      Some time later again…. reply from St Edmund’s College…NB her email link is given on that site but wouldn’t work, so I rang the college and they told me to email her via the Press Office, which I did. Here’s the reply:

      Dear Patricia,

      If you think I am going to attempt to waste the former President of Ireland’s time with an article containing the words: “the bigoted, hate-filled Mary McAleese” then you are sorely mistaken. As an Editor, you should have higher standards over what you publish about those who share opinions different from yours.

      Please do not attempt to correspond with Mary via St Edmund’s College again.

      Chris Powers
      Development Officer

      My reply to Chris Powers…

      This one-sided “respect” is nothing short of hilarious. McAleese can say what she likes about Catholicism, without having to take the odd question on the matter, and she can demand answers to her communications from the Pope, without putting her own contact details into the public domain. What a hypocrite!

      I’m not sure of the legality of withholding mail addressed to staff members – I have a feeling you’re overstepping the mark. I rang the college when the link to her alleged email address didn’t work and was told that you would pass on any email from me, so I am pretty confident that you are breaking some law or other by refusing to pass on my message to her. I’ll post this on our blog and see what our legal eagles think. Still, they might say, I’m not LGBT-Z so I suppose it won’t matter. I’m not a Muslim. So, who cares. Not a Jew. Not interested. Shucks, anything goes, really, for Catholics. Mind you, I believe Christ kinda warned that this is how his followers would be treated – no differently from the way He was treated, so, what the heck.

      No need to tell me not to correspond with your outfit. I wouldn’t dream of corresponding with such a totally UN-academic place – “college”? Don’t make me laugh that hollow laugh for which I am so famous.

      On the contrary, I want nothing more to do with you or your “college” so unless you wish to apologise and assure me that you will pass on my email, do not YOU write to ME again. Or, to put it in more “Glaswegian-friendly” lingo – take a hike.

      Patricia (Mzzzzzzz [Surname] to you!)

      August 8, 2018 at 1:55 pm
  • Lily

    Yes, that definitely IS hypocrisy – expecting answers even from a pope to her letters, but not being accessible herself to answer questions. She’s really something else.

    August 8, 2018 at 6:02 pm
  • Therese

    As for Pope Francis not answering her letter, I’m sure this must have been an oversight. She seems like his kind of “Catholic”.

    August 8, 2018 at 10:21 pm
    • editor

      Therese,

      That was in my mind to say earlier and – not unusually with my alleged mind – it went right out again!

      You are so right – talk about ‘birds of a feather’ – it’s amazing that Papa Francis didn’t respond to McAleese’s letter, but I’m guessing he’ll be bitterly disappointed that she has criticised him for what probably is, as you say, an oversight. I mean (he is probably thinking) who is she to judge?

      August 8, 2018 at 11:42 pm
  • gabriel syme

    It is difficult to adequately express the level of contempt I have for McAleese.

    While no-one (including me) is perfect, we can make allowances for, and be tolerant of, people’s genuine failings. However, it is difficult to make allowances for someone like McAleese who is so completely convinced of her own importance, so arrogant and so deluded as to believe that the Catholic Church ought to “dress up” the fact that her son is a pervert and indeed apologise for teaching the truth about human sexuality.

    Her actions are in-part self-interest and in-part a means of keeping her face in the papers, (post retirement), by exploiting the current political fads.

    A point of view is only worthwhile if it is built on fact clear-sighted and is dispassionate. A point of view which is promoted because the person sees no other choice is not worthwhile. McAleese’s interventions here are wholly to do with making her and her son feel better about his perverted sexual behaviour and so is not worthwhile. Its is only her view, because the alternative – accepting reality about her son’s behaviour – is unpalatable to her.

    Ironically, while publicity is doubtless part of her motivation, the fact she chooses to stay and moan, rather than simply leave the Church, does indicate that she accepts – even if only subconsciously – that the Church’s stance is important.

    She is a thoroughly obnoxious woman, lacking even a crumb of integrity or humility.

    Sad to say, perhaps she is a good representation of what Ireland has become more widely (similar to the West in general): arrogant, self-obsessed, deluded and thinking reality can be redefined by screeching about so-called prejudice.

    August 9, 2018 at 7:55 am
    • RCAVictor

      Gabriel Syme,

      I have to wonder, given your assessment of her character, whether her son is a homosexual because of his mother….

      August 19, 2018 at 10:22 pm
  • gabriel syme

    I must say, the Pope’s failure to reply to McAleese’s letter is surely the most outrageous snub since Glen Michael failed to read out my birthday message on his TV show, Glen Michael’s Cartoon Cavalcade, in the early 1980s.

    Will polite society ever recover from these twin-scandals?

    August 9, 2018 at 7:59 am
    • editor

      Gabriel Syme,

      Priceless!

      Your previous comment is also spot on: ” thinking reality can be redefined by screeching about so-called prejudice.” covers the whole range of contemporary nonsense in the alphabet lobby (LGBT-Z).

      August 9, 2018 at 8:37 am
  • editor

    IMPORTANT NOTICE…

    A couple of times in the recent past, bloggers have enquired about The Case of the Missing Athanasius, since it’s quite some time since he put in an appearance here.

    In an effort to prevent a conversation developing on the subject, since, generally speaking, I try not to put pressure on bloggers, many of whom have family and work commitments which mean they can only blog “as and when”, I suggested that enquirers should email me privately, adding that Athanasius’s reason for not blogging at the present time “doesn’t put him in a good light, far from it” .

    It has been drawn to my attention that this might lead readers to speculate that Athanasius is guilty of some dark crime, or at least held under police caution pending an identity parade 😀

    Not at all. It’s much more mundane, I’m afraid – partly a simple misunderstanding between Athanasius and myself, very easily explained…

    https://m0.herfamily.ie/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/15182751/minion13.jpg

    And partly for personal reasons which have nothing to do with the blog, so he’s currently AWL (Absent With Leave) for the foreseeable future.

    I hope that clarifies the position.

    Athanasius is, however, a chocoholic so I’m going to remind him of what awaits him if only he decides to cut short that leave!

    Drum roll…

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    August 19, 2018 at 10:00 pm

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