Francis “Canonises” Pope Paul VI

Francis “Canonises” Pope Paul VI

Pope Francis has canonized Pope Paul VI, Archbishop Oscar Romero and five other saints.

This morning in St. Peter’s Square, before a crowd of about 70,000 people, Pope Francis presided over Holy Mass for the canonization of the saints while the Synod of Bishops on young people, the faith and vocational discernment is underway in the Vatican, Oct. 3-28, 2018.

He also proclaimed canonized saints Francesco Spinelli, Vincenzo Romano, Maria Caterina Kasper, Nazaria Ignazia of Saint Teresa of Jesus, and Nunzio Sulprizio.  To read entire report click here

Then click here to read a thoroughly documented commentary on “The Canonization Crisis” published on The Remnant website.


I’d forgotten all about these canonisations until a fellow parishioner reminded me this morning after Mass.  We were talking about the widespread scandals of recent weeks and months, and she added that it was going to be all downhill from today.  I asked her “why today?”  She then reminded me that Pope Paul VI (pictured below with the six Protestant ministers whom he invited to help him create a new Mass, one that would be acceptable to our – increasingly – separated  Protestant brothers and sisters),  is now being rewarded for this scandal by “canonisation”.  Along with Archbishop Romero, advocate for the poor. I’m no expert on the life and times of Archbishop Oscar Romero, so this article is interesting – especially in its conclusion. 

     From left: A. Raymond George (Methodist), Ronald Jaspar (Anglican), 
Massey Shepherd (Episcopalian),
Friedrich Künneth (Lutheran),
  Eugene Brand (Lutheran),
Max Thurian (Ecumenical community of Taize).

Discussion point…

I NEVER refer to “Saint” John Paul II or “Saint” John XXIII.  Nor will I acknowledge “Saint Paul VI”.   Will you? 

Comments (32)

  • Athanasius


    I thought I should respond on the new thread.

    You’re right to hesitate calling these Popes saints. What I do is reserve judgement on the entire issue until the Church once again has a Traditional Pope. I can’t answer for the personal holiness or otherwise of these Popes, God alone knows the disposition of their souls. But I am fairly certain that God would not permit the formal canonisation of three successive Popes who, between them, absolutely decimated the Church with their liberal/Modernist reforms. One day the Church will examine all of these Pontificates and make formal judgements on them. Until then, I will not refer to any of them as “Saint”.

    October 14, 2018 at 8:25 pm
    • Petrus

      Agreed. I remember being quite depressed when JPII was “canonised”. Now, I just put it out my mind and ignore it until it’s all sorted out. I DO however, make sure I express my reservations when the subject comes up in conversation.

      October 14, 2018 at 9:42 pm
  • Athanasius

    RCA Victor

    Don’t be in the least surprised if Pope Francis rehabilitates Judas, he did it with Martin Luther! These modern Popes have scandalised the Church with their saint factory mentality. It lacks the Traditional wisdom and prudence of the old Pontiffs who acted supernaturally, not humanistically.

    October 14, 2018 at 8:28 pm
    • Petrus

      Athanasius ,

      I’m sure JP II canonised more saints in his pontificate than the Church has throughout her history! Complete madness.

      October 14, 2018 at 9:41 pm
      • Athanasius


        That’s absolutely true about JPII, he did canonise more saints during his Pontificate than all previous Pontificates put together. It just demeans the sacredness of the process in the eyes of the world.

        October 14, 2018 at 10:49 pm
  • Faith of Our Fathers

    God when you look at that Photo it takes one back to when Catholics used to determine the Mass. Then the 7 Musketeers came in to make it more Protestant . When the New Mass came into being I have said it on here before sorry but the Protestantism of the Our Father and that particular part of the New Mass was what really stood out for me it was a Betrayal of the Faith to even invite these Apostate Clergy to the Vatican never mind Ask them their advice on a new Mass . Am also with the rest on here as forby these Men being Saints every Pope is most certainly not a Saint although Francis may break ranks and Cannonise himself . God Help Us from these Men of The World who now populate the Buildings of Our Catholic Church.

    October 14, 2018 at 10:09 pm
    • Helen

      FOOF, excuse my ignorance but in what way was the Our Father protestantised? The present one is the same one that my gran says and she’s 82 years old.

      October 15, 2018 at 10:37 am
  • Lionel

    Friday, November 28, 2014 at 11:09
    The Church Authorities have lost the “notion of holiness”; they have modified and adapted the procedures at their convenience, they have notably rejected the most indispensable “promoter of the faith” and the result was that they no longer have a sense of discernment, they have given up. The “essential criterion of Charity” has indeed been abandoned, it is clear that it is no longer held in the framework of a canonization process… Even those who are interested by far in these questions became aware of it… (The Onion, on March 6, 2014…/desperate-catholic-church-now-of…/: Desperate Catholic Church Now Offering Sainthood To Anyone Who Regularly Attends Weekly Mass) Such or such leading figure looks a little nicer than the others, one does certainly not try to investigate in depth, he looks pleasant, so he is proclaimed “saint” and everyone follows like sheep… and so, the Magisterium (please, read the highest Authorities) has made a fool of himself and has lost all credibility and that is how “bad pastors” despise their flock and complete the destruction of our beloved Church…
    It is simply outrageous and scandalous.
    I do not welcome the canonization of the conciliar Popes who “uncrowned Our Lord Jesus Christ” by substituting “the cult of man” to “that of God” and thus have scuttled the Holy Church, leading us inevitably to disaster…
    This is “the man who makes himself God” instead of “God made man”; in the “new religion” correspond “new saints”!
    In this new “church”, “one breaks with the past to become new man, sectarianism replaces the love of neighbour, individual pride grows in the shade…” (Cardinal Tommaso Bernetti – August 4, 1845).
    These precipitated beatifications and canonizations of “reforming” Popes are unnecessary, controversial, absurd and damaging acts; it is the introduction into the Church of additional ferments of division. Ultimately it is the Vatican II reform which is celebrated across this frenzy… The Church Authorities canonize their fatal reform. It is a way to lock it so that nobody can question it anymore. Please, let me know what are the good fruits of Vatican II and of the Popes who worked on this devastating Council and promulgated its decrees, while persecuting the faithful Catholics?
    Indeed, nobody, but God, knows who is holy or is not…
    All this is extremely troubling and certainly unhealthy.

    October 14, 2018 at 10:20 pm
    • Athanasius


      It’s true that every Catholic funeral Mass is now conducted as though the deceased were in heaven already. The priest wears white vestments and celebrates the life of the deceased. Gone are the black vestments and the requiem Mass for the repose of the soul of. It’s heaven for everyone now and that’s why they never speak of Hell or purgatory and have rejected Limbo. That’s the Lutheran influence.

      October 14, 2018 at 10:29 pm
    • editor


      Just to alert you – The Onion is a satirical site. They make up stuff to publish for fun, so their piece on “Desperate Catholic Church” canonising anyone who attends Mass, is their idea of having a laugh.

      I know it seems that we’re headed that way, but don’t believe anything that you read on The Onion. It is likely to bring tears to your eyes 😀

      October 14, 2018 at 10:37 pm
      • Athanasius


        I suppose the only point to make on what you say is that it demonstrates how the world is taking note of the post-Vatican II saint factory and ridiculing it, as we would expect.

        October 14, 2018 at 10:51 pm
      • Lionel

        Thank you, Editor, for this warning!
        By the way, do you know that on the 13th of October Pope Leo XIII had the revelation on the “power of Satan in view of trying to destroy the Church” and also at this date Our Lady of Fatima asked for the “consecration of Russia”…

        October 14, 2018 at 11:00 pm
      • editor

        Well, Lionel, Athanasius, RCA Victor…

        I was caught out myself big time a few years ago. I can’t remember the subject but it was something extreme and I thought, WOW, I need to get that onto the blog without delay.

        So I worked on a new thread, appropriately shocking headline and image, and published it.

        Providentially, RCA Victor happened to be online and saw the new thread immediately – he emailed me pronto to let me know that the Onion is satirical and it wasn’t true. Phew! I was able to delete it before anyone else saw it! That was a very lucky escape!

        So, I’m not sure you’ll remember that event, RCA Victor, but if you do, and even if you don’t, allow me to repeat my very real gratitude to you for helping me scrape the egg off my face!

        October 14, 2018 at 11:15 pm
      • Petrus


        I remember it clearly. It was an April Fool joke that Bishop Fellay had been appointed Archbishop of St Louis!

        October 15, 2018 at 7:53 am
      • editor


        I’ll take your word for it – I thought it was something along the lines of a new EU law that required us all to show our passports to get into the street where we lived but my memory is flawed. I mean, I keep thinking, “Petrus? Isn’t he that very nice man who often blogs with us?” 😀

        October 15, 2018 at 9:45 am
      • Petrus


        I remember the article vividly and your headline – “Rejoice!” The article said that the bishop would allow one Novus Ordo in each parish per Sunday under an indult until all priests could be trained in the TLM. It was hilarious and you took it in good fun.

        October 15, 2018 at 10:33 am
      • editor

        Petrus, that does ring a bell. And I think you’ve reminded me about it before… This time, I must make a point of filing it, so I don’t forget again…

        October 15, 2018 at 5:48 pm
      • RCAVictor


        I think I’m having a senile moment about that event. I also seem to have trouble finding my mouth whilst eating eggs….

        Is my room at the home ready yet?

        October 15, 2018 at 2:08 pm
      • Athanasius

        RCA Victor

        We’ve decided on a one-way ticket to a Swiss clinic instead. Budgets and all that, I’m sure you’ll understand!!

        October 15, 2018 at 2:30 pm
      • editor

        RCA Victor,

        You surprise me… This is how I imagine you in a nursing home…–JR8FyA7Dyg/UWrbROHJEUI/AAAAAAAACcs/iQi6OMm3ulI/s1600/nurse3.gif

        October 15, 2018 at 5:50 pm
  • RCAVictor

    What is most deeply puzzling and frustrating for me is that Paul VI recognized that the “smoke of Satan” had entered the Church through some “fissure,” but was completely blind to the fact that he and his predecessor were actually the fissures.

    Ironically, now, thanks to him and his predecessor and successors, we need a new fissure, through which Tradition can return, and in the process swallow up the Judases who have so wounded the Church.

    So considering actual history and objective reality, I categorically refuse to pray to these tainted “saint” Popes as saints. Hopefully they made it to Purgatory, however, where I can pray for them – that is, if their blindness stopped before they went through death’s door.

    October 14, 2018 at 11:00 pm
    • editor

      RCA Victor,

      Interesting that you should mention that comment from Paul VI, because the parishioner who reminded me of the canonisations mentioned it this morning, and pointed out that since he’d said that in 1972, he had several years during which he could, subsequently, have put an end to the crisis, filled that fissure, so that, as you say, Tradition could have returned. But he didn’t.

      Go figure, RCA Victor, Go figure (how’s my American accent? !)

      October 14, 2018 at 11:17 pm
  • Lily

    Will I acknowledge “Saint” Pope Paul VI?


    October 15, 2018 at 1:29 pm
  • RCAVictor

    Father “Celatus” offers a very apropos re-write of “Good King Wenceslas” to commemorate this farce of a canonization:

    October 15, 2018 at 2:11 pm
    • editor

      RCA Victor,

      Tragic. Comic-tragic.

      October 15, 2018 at 5:58 pm
  • RCAVictor

    This from the blog “Vox Cantoris”:

    October 15, 2018 at 5:00 pm
    • Athanasius

      RCA Victor

      That’s not a very endearing litany of “St. Paul VI”, is it? How could such a Pope be canonised through a rushed and weakened process and then made binding on the faithful? It just re-enforces my belief that I will not refer to Paul VI as a saint until a Traditional Pope is back on the throne of Peter and has reviewed all of these post-Vatican II papal canonisations according to the wisdom and prudence of the Church.

      October 15, 2018 at 6:40 pm
  • editor

    Here’s a reminder of why we should be celebrating the canonisation of Pope Pius XII – not Paul VI…

    October 15, 2018 at 9:40 pm
  • RCAVictor

    So much for the “conservative” Cardinal Sarah:

    October 15, 2018 at 10:26 pm
    • editor

      RCA Victor,

      That’s a disappointment – Cardinal Sarah’s true colours… very disappointing.

      I did laugh at this comment underneath the video – truly, if you don’t laugh, you cry… buckets…

      “Now when I am feckless, indecisive, moody, inconsistent, and shirking my responsibilities while my family falls apart around me, I can at least say I am imitating a saint. 😀

      October 15, 2018 at 11:39 pm
  • gabriel syme

    The more I learn about Paul VI, the more I dislike him.

    I knew he was responsible for the English “agatha christie” indult, but only learned recently he had denied the same privilege to 6,000 Spanish priests who had petitioned him so they could keep the real mass.

    I knew he had given up the Papal tiara, but only learned recently he also gave away a battle flag captured at Lepanto.

    It seems he was the personal manifestation of the modern Church: weak, effete, lacking in confidence and fundamentally contradictory.

    In this sense, he is the perfect Saint for the modern Church, although of course the canonisation is a politically driven nonsense.

    October 22, 2018 at 12:37 pm
  • PopeBeliever

    Who is the Chief Pope of the Catholic Church?

    Editor: “Chief Pope”? What do you mean? Please explain.

    Also, your username is puzzling. No Catholic has to “believe” in any pope. Still, one question at a time. What do you mean by “Chief Pope”? It’s as puzzling as someone speaking about the “Chief Prime Minister”. Odd. Please explain

    October 30, 2018 at 2:37 pm

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