“Pro-Choice” Women Hard as Nails…editor
The wild reactions to the news that in the USA there are States which criminalise abortion (as they criminalise every other murder) has been really telling. In TV discussions, including here in the UK, what stands out starkly is the way women who describe themselves as “pro-choice” (i.e. in favour of having the choice to kill their unborn child) have reacted to the very idea that there may be a return to protecting the unborn child in law. Hard as nails, is the phrase which kept coming to my mind, watching and listening to them. They speak about having had an abortion the way the rest of us would speak about having bought the wrong flavour of… let’s see… milkshake, perhaps?
This thread, then, isn’t really about abortion per se – we have a pro-life thread for that (and a segment in the above video to remind us, if any of us need reminding about the sheer barbarism involved in an abortion) and we’ve had many discussions on the subject in dedicated threads. The purpose of this thread is to examine the extent to which the “right” to kill their unborn child has coarsened women and made them hard as nails. I can see it plain as daylight in any conversation on the subject, whether on TV or in person. And I see absolutely NO “agonising”. Watching the delighted victors in the Irish abortion referendum literally dancing in the streets of Dublin put paid to that lie, once and for all.
Personally, as a woman myself, I think the “pro-choice” females are utterly self-centred women who – by the way – do not allow the fathers of their unborn child any say in the matter. And that on the grounds that it’s the women’s body, her choice.
Let’s hope they keep their mouths shut, then, in any conversation about men’s bodies – such as the current scandal of the high rate of male suicides. Whether it’s their son (you know, the one who made it through the womb) or their “partner”/husband, or father, the message, in my world, is clear; it’s NOT your body so mind your own business.
“Pro-choice” women are self-centred, coarse, and hard as nails. That’s my view – what about you?
Well done on a truly excellent video /blog here it just goes to show how abortion has become trendy for all the so called celebrity’s to jump on the pro death blood red band wagon whoever would have thought wimmin would clamour to kill their own children .tHERE IS NO SUCH THING AS PRO CHOICE OH HOW I HATE THOSE 2 WORDS ..because they are not and i would never utter those words because all they are is rabid pro death hateful evil possibley demon infested apologies for people …………………..who feel they can do and say and hurt pro life people…. their lies are unbelievable and make no sense at all .we need to Pray for President Trump and all the courageous Lawmakers who have shown sheer courage in The USA …and also Pray we here in The Uk could be so lucky to get a like minded Politician .As for these …wimmin….they use filthy ,disgusting ,pornographic slogans and posters unashamedly baying for yet even more infant bloodlust and their vile man hating venom..keep showing them up dear Patrica thank you
I do agree about “pro-choice” – I try to always say “pro-abortion”, as “pro-choice” is a euphemism that covers up the reality of what is going on.
I agree about “pro-choice” – I do generally say “Pro-Abortion” but in the above headline it would have meant a two line headline and I prefer one line, so I then employ my next device which is inverted commas = “pro-choice”.
In other words, forced to use it, I indicate through punctuation that I don’t really mean “pro-choice”. They are pro-death, as you so eloquently put it.
I’d go so far as to say they are not women at all – they are monsters! I read a comment on Jeremy Corbyn’s Facebook page from a woman who had a disabled child. She said she absolutely supported the right to abort disabled children. How could she say that and then look at her very own child? It’s abhorrent.
I believe that a woman who supports abortion should not be permitted to be near children. If she’s capable of aborting a living child she is, in my opinion, capable of anything.
I agree 100% – these women really are monsters and shouldn’t be allowed anywhere near children. I completely endorse that opinion.
Petrus & MM,
You’re a hard-hearted pair. These woman are “monsters”… “should not be permitted to be near children”… “capable of anything…”
Spot on! I couldn’t agree more.
Marvellous heartfelt replies here thank you
These woman are definitely hard as nails and usually very vulgar in the way they talk.
But there’s another group of women that I find hard to fathom. It’s the Catholics who say they don’t like to see graphic pictures of aborted foetuses, such as the Abort67 group use in their street stalls.
How can any Catholic think like that? It can only be, IMHO, because they, too, have become hardened in their hearts. I think any unborn child who was asked his opinion would say please show the bits in the dish as it might save my life!
Nancy Pelosi, btw, is a disgrace.
Yes, I’ve not met many – in fact, I can only think of one person, actually, a Catholic who said she disapproved of the use of graphic images in the abortion debate. I can’t think of a single justification for such a view, not if we truly believe that human babies are being murdered.Any and all means ought to be used to highlight this scandal. It just proves how legalising evil definitely dulls consciences.
If, as the likes of the BBC would have us believe, abortion is just another medical procedure like having a wisdom tooth removed, there can be no objection surely to viewing it through the lense of a television camera. Strangely, society baulks at this, as it does in the face of televising the execution of the death penalty.
I think your point about the “coarsening” of women is very important, but I think the cause is much wider than just abortion. I think it is the result of the entire “feminist” movement, the result of which has been to make women more masculine – i.e. the complete opposite of “feminine” – and, into the bargain, make men more effeminate. The convergence of genders, after all, serves the purposes of anarchy quite well.
I have to wonder whether most women who actually have abortions really have such hearts of stone, or whether it is mostly the radical leftists, who make millions from this ghastly procedure, who are trying to protect their investments.
And I doubt whether those radical leftists, most of whom are lesbians anyway who wouldn’t dream of getting anywhere near a man and his toxic masculinity, will ever have to suffer the severe pangs of remorse experienced by women post-abortion. For example:
I heard somewhere recently that every time a baby is killed in the womb, more demons are released into the world. And speaking of demons, Josephine, Nancy Pelosi is their able spokeswoman, yet another “Catholic” transformed into an enemy of the Faith. She has been euthanized by Satan.
Don’t you think it’s splitting hairs to make a distinction between feminists of the “entire feminist movement” type and “pro-choice” women? Personally, I doubt very much indeed if you could find a “pro-choice” woman who is not a self-proclaimed, fully paid up member of the “entire feminist movement.” Nutters every one.
I don’t think it’s about women who have had abortions having “hearts of stone” – their heartfelt sympathies lie with what they perceive to be their own best interests… careers, mortgages, cars, freedom to pontificate on the subject on TV shows… that sort of thing.
In all seriousness, I think that, as with all unrepented indulgent grave sin, they have been able to convince themselves that they are doing nothing wrong and their anger against the rest of us who think otherwise (especially men) is very real. Just check out Nancy Pelosi on that video clip again; she is not at ease. She is in bad conscience, or so it seems to me and moi. Interesting that you use the term “euthanized by Satan” to describe her – that is EXACTLY what I am trying to say (a heck of a lot less successfully than your good self, I admit) when I argue that pro-abortion women are as hard as nails. Hard as nails, I repeat.
I am sure we’d agree that the women who repent and seek recovery, as per your link, while having HAD an abortion, are not really fairly described as “pro-abortion.” I’m sure there are many girls and women who have been talked into an abortion by “experts” convincing them that it’s no big deal. Lies. They are not in the “hard as nails” category – they’re in the “Gotcha!” category of worried women who have been fooled by the abortion propaganda.
As you may recall from my shiny cranial landscape, I don’t many hairs to split…
…but what I was getting at was that, as far as I know, the feminist movement encompasses a lot more than infanticide, though it is certainly true that infanticide is its main feature. More generally, this movement is about “equal rights” for women, esp. equal pay and benefits, equal opportunities like serving in the military, playing sports traditionally reserved for men, etc. It is cultural Marxism under the equally Marxist guise of egalitarianism.
The first time I noticed this masculinization was years ago when I was attending a women’s (girls, actually) high school basketball game. One of the girls screamed to another, in the midst of a play, “COVER YOUR MAN!”
“Man”? That’s when I started to think on the whole phenomenon.
As for looking out for their own best interests, I propose that in this course of action, they are eventually doomed to fulfill Rodney Dangerfield’s old joke:
“Every time I look out for Number One, I step in Number Two.”
In this case, Number Two is murder, and mortal sin.
Didn’t Humane Vitae predict the mushrooming of infanticide as a result of the use of the pill? Or did it stop at predicting the abuse of sexual intercourse as pleasure without responsibility? I don’t remember, but I would also say that the use of contraceptives by women also contributes to the “hard as nails” mentality.
I find it totally sickening that so many women are up in arms against the State of Alabama for daring to vote against abortion. Even some columnists who I have admired have jumped on the so called “My body, my choice” band wagon, of course influenced by the feminist movement. It goes without saying that social meedja is also awash with hateful comments. So many perfectly viable babies murdered but it is politically incorrect to call it murder. Which one is the hate crime here?
I agree – Tucker Carlson shows up their lack of democracy in this segment from his show, and you can see some of these hardened women speaking. I think it is terribly sad to think of those murdered babies, feeling the pain and being bewildered during the one time in their life that they should be totally safe:
It is very hard for a man to say almost anything about women in today’s culture without being labeled as sexist or told in various other and no uncertain terms to butt out, but I see a sea change in women generally over my adult life which never ceases to amaze me.
Women are, or so it seems, more like men with each passing day. Femmininity is at a premium as voices seem to lower and aggression is let vent. This change is, I would contend, at the heart of many a social malaise as women shun the complementarity of matrimony and unlearn motherhood, with far reaching consequences for all: women, men and children of both sexes.
I would not underestimate the role of abortion itself in the hardening of women. I read a statistic the other day which claimed that by the time they reach forty-five, one in three women in the UK will have had an abortion. This abdication of motherhood on such a scale is to me incredible, but at the same time frightening. It is proof, if proof were needed, that legislation has the capacity to modify the culture in that it appears to confer moral legitimacy — so that if abortion is legalized, it will almost inevitably over time come to be seen as good or even desirable. But it is also a prelude to other evils. If children can be murdered, why not the elderly, what we used to call the handicapped, or any other category perceived to be a drain on the public purse or in some other way inconvenient.
I always think that Satan played a blinder over the de-criminalisation and consequent conferal of moral legitimacy on abortion. He began with an action which is supremely evil, for what can be more subverting of the natural order than a mother commissioning the murder of her child with the full knowledge and compliance of the state, in expectation that this would usher in widespread acceptance of other societal evils, not least of which divorce. As usual he did this by presenting evil under the guise of good, and how many people fell for it in the parliaments of this world and even in the Christian Church! For, unless I am much mistaken, it was a son of the manse who sponsored the abortion bill in the House of Commons and no less than an Archbishop of Canterbury which saw it safely through the Lords.
Unless women rediscover their true identity and vocation there will be much to suffer, but there is very little chance of this in a country in which the supposedly impartial state-funded broadcaster labels anti-abortion opinion as ‘medieval’ and gets away with it because consciences are blind to all decency.
Excellent post. My only slight disagreement with you is when you say that “women are, or so it seems, more like men with each passing day”. In my opinion, women are much worse than men with each passing day. Women are supposed to be the primary care givers; it is in the nature of women to nurture the young.
Why is it worse to see a drunk female than a drunk man? Why is it worse to hear foul language from a female than a male? Both of these behaviours are common now among women – of all ages. Feminists have so degraded the dignity of women that they strive to outdo the worst male behaviour, and in my opinion, they have succeeded spectacularly, to the point where these benighted fools proclaim proudly that they will kill their children whenever they feel like it, and as often as they like.
The term “feminism” is an oxymoron. These women are the least feminine creatures you could meet. They talk ugly, they think ugly, they act ugly, they are ugly. Hard as nails and completely lacking in conscience.
I think you are 100% correct. Women are worse than men at times. There’s nothing more vulgar than a woman with a drink in her. What’s more, when I was in Dublin with Catholic Truth, I personally found the young men more sympathetic and ready to listen compared to the young women.
Here is some interesting background on the feminist movement, a review of what the writer calls “the feminist vigilantes”: https://spectator.org/western-memoirs-the-feminist-vigilantes/
Thanks for that RCA Victor – I’ve dipped into it briefly, but will read it properly later. Very interesting indeed.
‘Self-centred, coarse and hard as nails’?
Yes, yes and yes.
O horrible, horrible and thrice horrible!
Hard as nails, always in denial and psychotic into the bargain. No wonder, when abortion is known to be the biggest preventable cause of mental illness among women.
A reader sent me this Sky News clip showing a “hard as nails” pro-abortion female being allowed to dish out the abortion propaganda without interruption while the pro-lifer in the studio is not permitted to challenge. Date: 23 May, 2019. Name of programme, Sunrise, Presenter: Sarah Jane Mee. Channel, Sky News…
That reader and my unworthy self have emailed our complaint to Ofcom and hope others will follow suit.