Voting in the 2019 General Election

Voting in the 2019 General Election

As we prepare to go to the polls in the General Election on 12 December, it is worth reflecting on Church teaching and the principles which should guide us in deciding how to use our vote without violating God’s law.  

Click here to read a guide prepared for American Catholics, which seems to be fairly comprehensive.  I’ve not studied everything on that [EWTN] site, but I have checked out some key topics and I think we will all find it useful, and a source for fruitful discussion.

Below, a video clip from the trial of St Thomas More,  saint and martyr, patron of lawyers and politicians, who has been an inspiration to many, including many who are not Catholics, because of his strong, conscientious insistence that God’s law must always be above any law created by man. 

Comment: 

If the voting guide given in the introduction above still leave you with unanswered questions or doubts,  feel free to ask for clarification on this thread. 

Here, at Catholic Truth, we are apolitical and we discuss politics only in the context of our Catholic duty to be decent members of society, contributing, where possible, to the common good.  Please, therefore engage in discussion in a spirit of respect, bearing in mind that the Church exhorts us to adhere to certain principles but does not dictate that we should support (or not) any particular political party. Our overall aim must be to take care not to offend God in the way we vote; not to support the transgression of His Moral Law.  To this end we pray…

St Thomas More, intercede for us, and for all the politicians participating in the forthcoming election; guide and inspire us in the weeks ahead… Our Lady, Help of Christians, pray for us.  

Comments (103)

  • Helen

    In that link above posted by crofterlady did anyone think the bishops were getting a dig at the Conservatives? None of the parties are perfect by any means but, I think the bishops should have been having a go at the SNP with their anti family policies, as well as Labour and their pro abortion stance!

    December 1, 2019 at 2:18 pm
    • Laura

      Helen,

      Peter Kearney, who is the Bishops’ official spokesman, made his support for the SNP very publicly known quite a while ago, before the 2017 election, I think I’m right in saying. So, he couldn’t have done that without their say-so.

      The Bishops are definitely left-leaning so they won’t like the Conservatives at all. I’m not a Conservative either, but really they are all left-leaning now. The Tories’ reputation to be right wing went out of the window when they introduced same-sex marriage and they are as keen on abortion as the rest. ALL the parties are pro-abortion and pro gay rights, so there isn’t any choice for a Catholic, that’s for sure. The Bishops should be saying that and urging us to spoil our votes IMHO.

      The only fly in the ointment is Brexit – and some of us want to make sure we get that.

      December 1, 2019 at 3:53 pm
  • Helen

    I’ve just voted (postal vote) for the Brexit Party as the others are blatantly anti life. Any port in a storm!

    December 1, 2019 at 3:06 pm
    • Laura

      Helen,

      I’ll also be voting Brexit Party.

      December 1, 2019 at 3:54 pm
  • Michaela

    I’ve been watching the ITV election debate but switched off half an hour before the end. They are SUCH liars, the lot of them – except, I can honestly say, Nigel Farage. He was the only one not to make ad hominem attacks, even when he was insulted himself, he just said it was not true.

    The rest of them descended very quickly into ad hominem attacks and were particularly vicious on Donald Trump, dredging up the uncouth stuff he’s said about women etc. I wonder at the way people say they are shocked at that sort of thing, when they will watch sheer filth in the movies and never complain.

    The other thing that sickened me was watching the women on the panel (Nicolas Sturgeon, SNP Jo Swinson Lib Dems and Sian Berry, Greens) talking about “child poverty” and the way Donald Trump took children away from their parents at the Mexican border, all the usual propaganda, yet each of them 100% supports the murder of babies in the womb. Such hypocrites.

    What always strikes me about these debates, though, is the, frankly, unintelligent, audiences. None of them seem to notice the hypocrisy.

    If anyone else watched that joke of a debate, I’d be interested to know what you thought of it.

    December 1, 2019 at 9:08 pm
  • Fidelis

    I had to laugh watching Donald Trump in the live press conference when he arrived in London for the Nato meeting, saying he wouldn’t want the NHS if the UK served it to him on a silver platter! LOL!

    It has been ridiculous seeing the “NHS Not for Sale” slogan of the Labour Party and the Lib Dems saying the same thing, that voting Tory means the NHS will be on the table in a trade deal with the USA, because in my own experience of the NHS recently, it’s completely chaotic. Who on earth would want to buy it!

    Getting an appointment with a doctor is almost impossible, you have to see the nurse first and if the nurse thinks you need the doctor, then she will arrange it! Not only that, but when you ring for an appointment, you hear a message from the receptionist saying that they are held to the same confidentiality as the doctors, so you have to answer their questions and give as much information as possible, so they can direct your appointment to the right place. It’s just dreadful. What if the receptionist is a neighbour or someone I know? I gave up trying to get an appointment just a couple of weeks ago. Good on Trump, though, for making it clear that he knows the NHS wouldn’t be any kind of good investment. He should know, he’s a very experienced business man!

    December 3, 2019 at 2:06 pm
  • wendywalker95

    LGBT lobby group, Stonewall have written a comprehensive election manifesto demonstrating how they want to effect policy and decision-making across all areas of government.

    Many of our existing freedoms are already under threat, Stonewall aim to further erode fundamental human rights.

    Sign our petition asking your local candidates to explicity reject Stonewall’s manifesto.
    SIGN
    Dear wendy,

    A few days ago, I wrote to you about Stonewall’s demands that LGBT education be embedded into every single section of the primary school curriculum and how the Department of Education have changed their website, which will make it almost impossible for primary schools to opt out of teaching LGBT issues to children as young as five.

    You’re probably wondering how this has been allowed to happen and how, in the space of a few short years, LGBT ideology has become official government policy and a so-called “British value”.

    Much of this success can be attributed to the influence of the lobbying efforts of Stonewall who are extending their reach across every area of public life. If you want to know why the Department for Education sneakily introduced the crucial change to their website guidance, then perhaps you need to look no further than the fact that the permanent secretary for the department for education, has been named a Stonewall Senior Champion of the Year!

    Not content with capturing the civil service, the police force, education authorities and other public bodies across the country, Stonewall seek to embed and enmesh their ideology into every single area of public life.

    This is why we must ask candidates in the General Election to say “NO” to Stonewall, reject their election manifesto and instead uphold a set of 4 key principles.
    Sign our petition asking your local candidates to say no to Stonewall, to reject their manifesto and to uphold the impartiality of our public institutions.
    It is not unreasonable for lobby groups to publish election literature which is part of a healthy democracy but most other lobby groups such as the World Wildlife Fund, the Citizens Advice Bureau or the Royal College of GPs have restricted their election manifestos to 1-2 pages, whereas Stonewall’s manifesto, which they are asking candidates to support, runs to a full 18 pages.

    Other lobby groups only want to influence one particular area, whereas Stonewall want to extend their influence across every aspect of government.

    Stonewall’s demands clash with many of our fundamental freedoms and important aspects of dignity and welfare. Their support for gender ideology and desire to impose it upon the whole of society has even caused some prominent former members and supporters to split off, a few months ago, to found a new movement, the LGB Alliance.

    When members of the LGBT community are themselves denouncing Stonewall as too extreme, it is time to sit up and take notice.

    We cannot allow this institutional capture of our publicly-funded state institutions by Stonewall to continue. Please sign our petition today, asking candidates to stand up to this lobby group and reject their influence, should they be elected.

    Stonewall spends so much money on their electoral campaigning, that they are one of a group of 5 organisations who have been legally compelled under the Lobbying Act, to formally register themselves with the Electoral Commission.

    The Leftists don’t like this act and have pledged to repeal it, because it demonstrates how much money ideological lobby groups are pouring into the election in an attempt to influence the outcome and direct the future government.

    Stonewall has had a strong influence upon the Labour party in previous years, for example in the 2017 general election, Stonewall’s demand for a gender identity law, was also found later in the Labour party manifesto using not only identical wording but also identical punctuation.

    Stonewall’s aim is to transform our understanding of human reality on an official level, with a government stamp of approval. Here are some of the things which they want to impose:

    Self-identification – so that anyone can change their gender by filling in a form online, removing all medical and social safeguards
    Obliterate single-sex sports as a grassroots and professional level
    LGBT indoctrination in schools and clamping down on free speech in universities
    Gender-neutral passports, which pose a risk to national security
    Removal of women’s rights to female-only public lavatories, changing rooms, rape shelters, prisons and other facilities
    Candidates in this general election need to be challenged to uphold the fundamental freedoms enjoyed by all of us. Stonewall’s plans pose a real threat to public health and safety. Their one-sided approach to rights and freedoms removes rights and freedoms from other members of society and will eradicate the rights of those from other minority communities to fully participate in public life.

    Candidates are feeling the pressure of LGBT lobby and are pushed to sign the manifesto and then, if elected, boost its agenda. We have to make them feel that there are also thousands of voters who are asking them to stand firm against LGBTI totalitarianism and will vote accordingly.

    Please sign our petition, urging your local candidate to reject Stonewall’s manifesto and make a valuable stand for freedom.

    If this information becomes available, just before the election, I will share with you the list of those candidates who have given in to LGBT lobby and have signed the Stonewall manifesto, sorted by district. In that way you will be informed before voting.

    With thanks for all that you do,

    Caroline and the entire team at CitizenGO

    PS – we only have just over a week to the election – it is not too late, please sign the petition and circulate to all of your friends, family and anyone who you know to be frustrated by this constant encroachment of Stonewall into our everydayevery day life.

    Sources:
    Tell election candidates to resist Stonewall’s demands (Christian Concern):

    https://christianconcern.com/action/tell-election-candidates-to-resist-stonewall-demands/

    December 7, 2019 at 2:01 pm
    • editor

      Wendy,

      I’ve just signed that petition – here is the direct link
      https://citizengo.org/en-gb/el/175730-ask-your-candidate-reject-stonewalls-manifesto

      I urge all bloggers and readers to sign, asap. This LGBT lobby group is now outrageously dictatorial. Writing that in a short time from now, will be prohibited by law, so, I repeat my exhortation to sign. Not sure whether these petitions actually make much difference but it’s better than nothing and we can’t do nothing…

      December 10, 2019 at 2:54 pm
  • wendy walker December 10, 2019 at 10:16 am
  • wendywalker95 December 10, 2019 at 11:29 am
  • wendy walker December 12, 2019 at 9:08 am
    • editor

      Wendy,

      I put that on the Guadalupe voting thread this morning. Just so you know – doesn’t matter as I really should have closed this thread when we opened the other one. My fault!

      December 12, 2019 at 5:10 pm

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