Why are Catholics Not in Uproar?

Why are Catholics Not in Uproar?

Deacon Nick Donnelly said the Vatican's silence was 'incomprehensible' and the church should have denounced the 'heresy'

The above tweet is quoted in this Mail Online report about Pope Francis’ alleged denial of the bodily resurrection of Christ 


Deacon Donnelly’s observation is bang on the button.  If Catholics held to even a slithering of authentic Catholic Faith, we would, indeed, be causing uproar, mayhem, to make crystal clear to Pope Francis that up with  his anti-Catholic, and anti-Gospel, words and behaviour we will  not put! 

In the past, Catholics would pull dissident priests from their pulpits for preaching heresy but here we have a pope who is speaking and behaving in the most anti-Catholic, anti-Gospel manner imaginable, with bishops either defending him or remaining conveniently silent, and a passive laity, long conditioned by the multifarious “reforms” which have effectively changed the Faith of our Fathers into something which none of the great canonised saints would recognise. 

The answer to Our Lord’s question, then:  “When the Son of Man comes, will He find any Faith on earth?”  (Luke 18:8)  has to be, well, not in the UK.  that’s for sure.  And not in most other parts of the world.  Not if He comes anytime soon.  

Isn’t it long past time for the senior – allegedly concerned – Cardinals to actually do something to publicly rebuke this pontiff, instead of just giving interviews and writing books/articles which are unlikely to reach the majority of Catholic laity who, thus, in their ignorance, are being misled into error by him? Why has there been no major Press Conference, televised world-wide?  Surely, that is the least we can expect from top churchmen at this very late stage in the worst ever crisis in the Church’s history? 

However, if you disagree, be sure to tell us…

Comments (71)

  • myforever77

    Most Catholics I know, those keeping the faith, have faced; that although the Papacy is alive and well there is not a Catholic sitting in the Chair of Peter. If Peter would return today he would be scandalized to see this heretic who dares to call himself a pope. We are living in the era foretold to us that when Christ returns will He find do you think Faith upon the world. Prepare for His return and Keep the Faith in the meantime pray your DAILY rosary and wear your scapular, pray for each other.

    November 11, 2019 at 8:52 pm
    • editor


      While I agree with you about the Pope in that he is easily the worst ever in the history of the Church, I must remind you of our oft-stated position here at Catholic Truth – that none of us has the authority to declare Pope Francis to be not a pope. He may well be denounced as such in the future by the legitimate Church authority, but for now, all we can say for certain is that he is a shockingly bad pope.

      So, yes, pray for one another, as you suggest, but pray twice as hard for this awful pope, who is in grave spiritual danger. Of that there can be no doubt. .

      Now, the question posed for discussion, to which you have not responded, is, shouldn’t the leading churchmen who have publicly expressed concerns about Pope Francis through interviews and books etc, not be doing something very practical in order to publicly rebuke him? Call him to account? What do you think?

      And I would add, too, that maybe parishioners listening to their priests praising this pope should rise up in their pews and call out the priest for leading the congregation astray? Maybe a modern version of the pulling priests from their pulpits might be to have large posters printed with appropriately brief slogans to hold up during any homily where the pope’s false teaching is being repeated. Yes? No?

      November 11, 2019 at 10:02 pm
      • Fidelis


        I love the idea of the posters but it just wouldn’t work in today’s culture of “tolerance”. Catholics tend to go along to get along. Most would be horrified to find out that “intolerant” lay people ever pulled priests from their pulpit for preaching heresy, LOL!

        November 11, 2019 at 10:19 pm
  • RCAVictor

    I think Nick Donnelly (whoever that is – isn’t he a deacon somewhere?) is forgetting something: the time when Catholic would have rioted (or even gone to war) over such outrageous things was a time when life revolved around the Faith, and life was not only simpler, but really, inseparable from the Faith. In modern times, worldliness is the new religion and the new focal point of life, accelerated by the worldly transformation of the Church herself. Church is for Sunday, or maybe just Christmas and Easter.

    I also disagree with him that there’s been no uproar: there has indeed been an uproar, but unfortunately it is among the tiny percentage of Catholics who are preserving Tradition, and/or who take their Faith seriously. In other words, it’s the mouse that’s roaring, and I doubt whether the rest of the Church, which has been seduced by the lion, can hear us.

    But, like Editor, I am also wondering when the Cardinals are going to awaken and put this Pope on trial. Are they just waiting for him to self-destruct, or die, like Judas? Either way, they are derelict.

    November 11, 2019 at 10:12 pm
    • Fidelis

      RCA Victor,

      I agree with a lot of what you say but I wouldn’t say the tiny percentage who are preserving Tradition are causing an uproar. In my experience, they’ve battened down the hatches and don’t want to be disturbed until the whole thing is over. As long as they get their traditional Mass and sermons that don’t disturb their consciences, they are happy enough.

      November 11, 2019 at 10:17 pm
      • RCAVictor


        It think that scenario (head in sand until it’s all over) may well apply to the SSPX, but i don’t think that shoe fits on other traditional groups.

        November 11, 2019 at 10:20 pm
      • Fidelis

        RCA Victor,

        Where I am from, Scotland, the SSPX is a minority – the other traditional groups can fill a church for their umpteen sung / high Masses, but the most they do is invite Cardinal Burke and Bishop Schneider to celebrate Mass and mingle at their social afterwards, I don’t see them causing any uproar. If they were causing an uproar, the archbishop would see to it that they closed down.

        November 11, 2019 at 11:40 pm
      • RCAVictor


        Good point. I guess I’m really thinking more of faithful news outlets, like LifeSite, The Remnant, Catholic Family News, Fatima.org (though the last two have been very disappointing since the deaths of their respective beloved founders).

        November 11, 2019 at 11:48 pm
    • editor

      RCA Victor,

      Deacon Nick Donnelly is listed among the permanent deacons on the website of the Diocese of Lancaster, England

      Yes, the Cardinals should definitely be acting now and that in a very public way. As Archbishop Vigano said, what answer will [they] give when Our Lord asks them at their Judgment, how they could have remained silent “in the midst of falsehood and depravity”.

      As our English cousins would say… Quite!

      November 12, 2019 at 11:03 am
      • editor

        You typed Andrew instead of Augustine – will I amend?

        Or I could leave it as it is, and word might get round that this is the “go-to” blog for deacons 😀

        November 12, 2019 at 3:37 pm
    • Deacon Augustine


      Deacon Donnelly founded and ran the “Protect the Pope” blog which he was subsequently forced to close down after complaints from on high about his coverage of degenerate bishops in these lands.

      I would like to make a speculative prediction that he will not be one of those married deacons who the modernists want to ordain to the priesthood!!!

      November 12, 2019 at 1:48 pm
      • editor

        Deacon Augustine,

        Your speculative prediction is, undoubtedly, on the button!

        I have now corrected a post of yours which went into moderation due to a small typo in your login details.

        We all make misteaks sometimes. Even me, moi, has done so on occasion, so don’t lose any sleep over it…

        As I say, we all make misteaks sometimes 😀

        November 12, 2019 at 9:04 pm
    • Marc

      RCA Victor,

      This is grossly misleading. You seem to be operating on the premise that we live in extraordinary times. There has always been, is currently, and always will be, a vast majority of people in the world with little or no religious inclination whatsoever. The vast majority through the ages were catholic on a Sunday only. Nothing has changed in that regard.

      Also, the church has gone through many transformations since it came into being, including changes to liturgy, prayer etc. Hate to be the bearer of bad news pal but, the ‘mass of all ages’ only came into being a few centuries ago before it evolved into the so-called new mass after Vatican II.

      Editor: you think these are not “extraordinary times”? Are you kidding? Or to put it in Glasgow-speak Are you aff yer heid?!” [tr. “off your head.”] If these are not extraordinary times, when do you think they’ll invent a motor car?

      As for your potted history of the Mass – such ignorance! Latin had replaced Greek as the language of the Church by the end of the second century, and by the end of the third, as St John Henry Cardinal Newman testifies the Mass was in place, virtually unchanged until the Second Vatican Council – when, by the way, it was the only Mass in town!”

      You came onto this blog insisting that you are not a Catholic. It shows. You appeared to be an innocent abroad, keen to defend poor old Papa Francis from our criticisms, but now you’re all guns blazing in defence of the new (and getting newer by the minute) Mass, which, as Papa Francis makes clear, must be made even newer in an effort to accommodate the worship of pagan gods. Not a Catholic? Well, you’re a very strange kinda Protestant, if you don’t mind me noticing. So, forgive my curiosity but… Why are you here?

      November 15, 2019 at 4:15 pm
      • RCAVictor


        For a Catholic, which you apparently are not, “extraordinary times” is when the Blessed Virgin Mary appears to warn humanity of the grave dangers we face if we do not amend our ways. Extraordinary times is when the same Blessed Virgin performs the “Miracle of the Sun” in front of 70,000 people, as documented in an anti-Catholic Portuguese newspaper, no less. Extraordinary times is when the diabolical Freemasonic sect, manifesting itself as “Communism,” takes over Russia, and using it as a base, spreads its errors throughout the world, including into the United States.

        Want something more current? Extraordinary times is when the Vicar of Christ attacks faithful Catholics, including faithful priests, as “rigid,” and surrenders his authority and the Church to the UN, another Masonic front. Extraordinary times is when a Jesuit priest, undisciplined and in fact with the Pope’s blessing, trots around the globe trying to undermine and change the Church’s teaching on homosexuality. Extraordinary times is when the Pope and members of the hierarchy participate in blatant idol worship as part of a “Synod.”

        But apparently all that and more, so important to Catholics, is just another day at the office for you.

        As for your other nonsense, particularly your statement about the vast majority having, and never having had, “little or no religious inclination,” I suggest you do a search for “number of adherents to the major world religions.” You will find that about 12.7 – 16% of the world’s population have no religious adherence: hardly a “vast majority.” And you can add up the numbers of all the other major religions, and come back here and report on what percentage of the world’s population actually do adhere to a religion.

        Oh, and if religious observance was so casual through the ages, then how do you explain the millions of Catholic martyrs who died for the Faith during the ten Roman Empire persecutions? And if religious observance was so casual through the ages, how do you explain the Crusades? Or how do you explain the bloody wars between Catholics and the new Protestant sects of Luther and Calvin?

        Meanwhile, whatever it is you are reading, I suggest that you make a drastic change of reading list, because your current opinions are not only ignorant, but just plain embarrassing….to you, that is.

        November 15, 2019 at 10:45 pm
      • Marc

        RCA Victor

        Indeed, I am not a catholic and, as such, I do not accept Marian apparitions as true. Alas, neither do many catholics and (correct me if I’m wrong) the catholic church does not even obligate it’s faithful to believe in them neither. I flatly reject the so-called ‘Miracle of the Sun’ outright and all other apparitions, thereof.

        However, I am fairly well-versed in the errors of Communism and take issue with your assertion that the current malaise and social degradation in our society is “just another day at the office” for me. This could not be further from the truth. I resent your bogus observation.

        Calling people rigid is not considered an “attack.” If it were, then you alluding to me as being an embarrassment to myself could be considered practical GBH by comparison. And I’ve yet to see any evidence of the Pope actually trying to change church teachings regarding homosexuality.

        I did not say that the vast majority of people had no religious inclination, I said little or no inclination. I immediately followed this up by saying that the vast majority were catholics on a Sunday only, i.e. cafeteria catholics. You may be correct in your assertion that only 12.7-16% of the worlds population do not adhere to any religion but how many actually regularly attend services, pray, practice their faith as dutifully as possible? Because that is the point that I was making. You clearly missed that. The libraries are full of literature which will show quite clearly that this is nothing new, neither.

        Let’s not pretend that everyone involved in the crusades actually wanted to be there. This was more about tribalism and the pride of kings and emperors than it was about religion. You sound like those people that like to talk about how the Troubles in Northern Ireland was about Papes v Prods, as though they were fighting for their God when it was about so much more than that. Likewise, so were the crusades.

        November 16, 2019 at 11:29 am
      • RCAVictor


        “I flatly reject the so-called ‘Miracle of the Sun’ outright and all other apparitions, thereof.”

        Then you reject reality.

        “I am fairly well-versed in the errors of Communism and take issue with your assertion that the current malaise and social degradation in our society is ‘just another day at the office’ for me.”

        I did not cite cite social degradation. I cited events having to do with the Catholic Church and her members – events which, for Catholics, are “extraordinary times.”

        “Calling people rigid is not considered an ‘attack.'”

        Once again, ignorance of the Catholic Faith, this time of the sensus fidelium. It is an attack, and a grievous one, when the person calling faithful Catholics and their priests rigid happens to be the very Vicar of Christ, who is supposed to be defending and preserving the very faith he attacks.

        “I did not say that the vast majority of people had no religious inclination, I said little or no inclination.”

        Little or no inclination? No Inclination? Make up your mind! On what basis do you make this sweeping accusation?

        “The libraries are full of literature which will show quite clearly that this is nothing new, neither.”

        Nice double negative, and nice try citing “libraries” to make yourself sound learned, instead of citing specific books.

        “Let’s not pretend that everyone involved in the crusades actually wanted to be there. This was more about tribalism and the pride of kings and emperors than it was about religion.”

        As I said before, you would be well-advised to ditch your current reading list, because you continue to embarrass yourself. This is just a regurgitation of liberal screed.

        “I resent your bogus observation.”

        Tough darts, “pal.” Get over it.

        November 16, 2019 at 4:37 pm
      • Marc


        “Nice double negative”

        Ah, you noticed. That makes one of us. You’re very clever.

        “Tough darts”

        Tsk tsk. Oh dear. You may be very clever Victor but yer patter’s like water, laddie. 🙂



        Editor, thank you for the link that you provided earlier.

        November 17, 2019 at 2:51 am
      • Marc


        Och, away you go [tr. “gerragrip.”]. I simply alluded to the fact that the ‘Mass of all ages’ is a wee bit of a misnomer, as you yourself clearly recognise when you assert that “…Greek replaced Latin…” the mass became “…virtually unchanged…” etc,. There have been additional changes to the Mass over time, prior to the those instigated by the Second Vatican Council; par example, the addition of Saints’ feast days, the introduction of different coloured vestments depending on the time of year, the introduction of Gregorian chanting, among many other changes which I assume you are aware of. Put succinctly, there have been a whole horde of changes to the Mass over the years and to argue otherwise would be an insult to common knowledge.

        I think that Papa Franco is a bad Pope and I genuinely sympathise with people on here who are rightly perplexed at his idiosyncracies and perceived negligence and stubbornness. But, I don’t think he deserves to be criticised because he refuses to negate, or rebuke, every false allegation leveled at him, as is the case re: Scalfari. Every man and his dog is aware of who Scalfari is and what kind of character he is. For those who don’t know Scalfari, he’s kind of like an Italian version of, say, Piers Morgan – he says (and prints) things to get a reaction whether true or not. He’s also about 95yo and going senile. Moreover, if the Pope personally came out to argue his case against everyone who made false claim against him, he would probably do nothing else but that. Surely, you appreciate that this is why the Vatican have spokespeople.

        Why am I here, you ask? Well, dear Editor, I’m just here for your top notch, unadulterated and incomparable banter 😉

        Editor: well, flattery always welcome, no question about that but to the substance of your comment, the changes to the Mass – until Vatican II – were minimal. There were some small additions but never any subtractions. Maybe this previous discussion on our blog will help you understand better that the traditional Mass which I attend today is virtually unchanged from the Mass for which our Scots saint and Martyr, John Ogilvie, gave his life.

        November 16, 2019 at 1:47 am
  • Lionel

    Everything is said, there is nothing to add… This presumed confidence of the pope is absolutely monstrous and scandalous.

    November 11, 2019 at 10:56 pm
    • editor


      “monstrous and scandalous” – you are so right.

      November 12, 2019 at 11:04 am
  • carlos10101

    I don’t trust Scalfari but I wouldn’t be surprised if he was telling us the truth this time.

    A Pope who doesn’t believe in the Resurrection is the perfect leader for a Church whose majority of members don’t believe in the Real Presence of our Lord in the Eucharist.

    As for our bishops, I don’t believe they will lift voice or finger until the money stops flowing into their coffers.

    November 12, 2019 at 3:16 am
    • editor


      There is not a shred of doubt that Scalfari has been telling the truth EVERY time.

      After all, were he not reporting the Pope’s words accurately, two things would have happened…

      1) the Vatican (if not the Pope himself) would have corrected him, unambiguously stating his error

      2) the Pope would have declined further interviews after the first.

      Neither has happened and so we can believe, without doubting, what Scalfari has revealed (to paraphrase a key Catechism answer!)

      You make a good point about the money – I remember a few years ago, a lay group in the USA had fake dollar bills printed with the words “no doctrine, no dollar” printed. Those were placed into the collection plates to make the point. A brilliant idea.

      The Catholics here in the UK (and definitely in Scotland) are too far gone now to agree to do that. They think that if the Pope says “jump”, the only permissible question is “how high?”

      Unless, of course, it’s a faithful pope telling them that adultery is a grave sin, that contraception and abortion are grave sins, that LGBT+ is gravely sinful – in which case he’s a right wing extremist!

      Just like Our Lord Himself!

      November 12, 2019 at 11:09 am
      • Marc

        Oh please, do some basic research before posting. If you had, you would have quickly discovered that the Vatican has, in fact, corrected this senile, old chancer, Scalfari. And not on this issue, neither.

        November 15, 2019 at 9:13 am
      • editor


        YOU do the research. The Vatican has restated Catholic teaching on the divinity of Christ, nothing more. There has been NO clear statement – certainly not from the Pope himself – to assure us all that the Pope DOES hold to orthodox Christian dogma on the divinity of Our Lord. Nothing less than that will suffice.

        November 15, 2019 at 10:18 am
  • bernadettemilliken

    It is absolutely unreal

    Sent from my iPad


    November 12, 2019 at 4:28 am
  • Elizabeth

    I doubt very much if the average Catholic in the pew is even aware of what Pope Francis does or says. Few read Catholic papers or journals these days and in my experience he is barely mentioned in church except for in the proscribed prayers. So little chance of rioting in the streets then!
    We need ( she says hopelessly) for brave and truly pastoral clergy to stand up first and really make a fuss about this. Tell the people what it is being reported about Francis’ remarks and condemn them. How can it be that there does not seem to be even one bishop or cardinal who has the courage to say that enough is enough in the UK? Perhaps they just think it will all blow over. Well it will until the next time.

    November 12, 2019 at 8:13 am
    • Margaret Mary


      I agree with you completely. Unless the clergy show leadership, the laity will remain in ignorance. It’s a terrible situation.

      November 12, 2019 at 11:01 pm
  • Deacon Augustine

    Long gone are the days when the men of the Western Rising hung a priest from the bell-tower by his vestments for giving them the new English Protestant “communion” service rather than the Mass in Latin!

    The small number of bishops and cardinals who are prepared to speak out about the recent abominations is sadly pathetic. They must fear the one who can deprive them of their softly-cushioned seats rather than the One who has power to cast them into hell.

    Oh sorry – I forgot that “hell” had no place in “la Nouvelle Theologie.”

    November 12, 2019 at 1:42 pm
  • RCAVictor

    I think there is yet another key feature of Our Lord’s Passion being duplicated in this Passion of the Church: during Our Lord’s Passion, who spoke up for Him? Who defended Him against the lies of the bloodthirsty Jewish mob? Who upbraided Judas for betraying him?

    Not a soul. The only act of bravery was St. Peter’s, who cut off the servant’s ear (maybe he should have dispatched Judas with his sword instead) – but that turned out to be a misguided act, and he, along with everyone else, fled.

    From that perspective, this Passion is, actually, slightly (infinitesimally) an improvement: there is at least a handful of clergy speaking out against Francis – although, at the moment, it seems that the Sham-a-zon Synod is more on their minds than this latest disgrace. As posted on LifeSiteNews, there is yet another group of clergy and laity issuing a document, this one calling for Francis to repent for his idol worship.

    Given the overwhelming cowering, I think Our Lord’s words regarding His betrayer will also apply to almost all of the hierarchy, who by their silence are complicit in Francis’ betrayal: it will be better for them if they had not been born.

    November 12, 2019 at 3:12 pm
  • gabriel syme

    Modern Catholics are not in uproar because that would be unkind and non-inclusive.

    Remember: Our Lord suffered and died so that we could be nice.

    Novus Ordo Catholics are obviously the vast majority of Catholics today.

    For the bulk of these people, the Catholic faith only concerns a single 40 minute block, once per week, on a Saturday evening or Sunday morning.

    And so, Pope Francis’ antics – along with anything else occurring outside this 40 mins (and a lot occurring within it) – simply passes them by.

    For the bulk of these people, the Catholic faith is about having a natter with friends once per week at mass, and about being nice.

    Most such people have entirely secular values (with the exception of abortion) and are completely unaware of the rich, intellectually satisfying and personally challenging teachings of the Church.

    For them, the faith is not about believing anything in particular or upholding any doctrine or value.

    Accordingly, they couldn’t really care less about what Francis says or does, even if they were aware of it – which is very unlikely.

    I do not mean to be judgmental about the Catholics I describe – for one thing, that wouldn’t be nice – but I say this above because it is objectively true and i used to be one such Catholic.

    November 12, 2019 at 3:12 pm
    • RCAVictor

      Gabriel Syme,

      Well said. Your post is well-supported by our local Diocesan newspaper, which reserves a column (near the back, though) to highlight anything the Pope said recently that could be construed as remotely Catholic. I doubt many readers make it back that far in each issue of the newspaper, but if they do, they will be assured that everything is just peachy in Vatican-land.

      November 12, 2019 at 3:38 pm
  • Greg Grimer

    Why aren’t you advocating riots?

    In the past Catholics would have rioted.

    I am ready to riot when you are.

    (43 year SSPX Catholic)

    November 12, 2019 at 3:20 pm
  • RCAVictor

    I should add that “speaking out,” as in this latest document regarding the Pope’s worship of pagan idols, has obviously run its course to no effect, except to create false hopes among the faithful. Cardinal Burke, for example, probably the most visible of those who have chosen this tactic, inexplicably had this to say during his interview with Ross Douthat (New York Times, Nov. 9):

    “Douthat then pressed Burke to explain the implications of the Pope backing a document that is schismatic, stating: “But how can that be possible? You’re effectively implying that the pope would be leading a schism.”

    To which Burke replied: “Yes.”

    Douthat then asked: “Isn’t that a deep contradiction of how Catholics think about the office of the papacy?”

    Burke responded: “Of course. Exactly. It’s a total contradiction. And I pray that this wouldn’t happen. And to be honest with you, I don’t know how to address such a situation. As far as I can see, there’s no mechanism in the universal law of the church to deal with such a situation.”

    Apparently His Eminence has not read True or False Pope! And apparently Cardinal Burke either does not know (which I find hard to believe) or does not have the will to embrace the full breadth of his apostolate.


    November 12, 2019 at 3:22 pm
  • editor

    The following link leads to a letter signed by a number of priests and laity, entitled a Protest against Pope Francis’s sacrilegious acts


    I was invited to sign and at that time offered to publicise the letter here and ask others to sign but the organisers asked me to wait until it was formally published. There is still an opportunity to sign, as you will see when you visit the link – see the “support the initiative” link at the top of the list of signatures.

    I encourage everyone to sign.

    Note: the letter is linked within this Lifesitenews report…

    November 12, 2019 at 8:39 pm
    • RCAVictor


      I notice there is no signatory from the SSPX. Are SSPX clergy forbidden to participate in things like this, or is this more of the same old SSPX story?

      November 13, 2019 at 12:47 am
      • editor

        RCA Victor,

        I don’t know if they were invited – there is still a “let’s keep our distance” attitude by many in the allegedly “traditional” camp – but are there signatures from the FSSP or Institute of Christ the King? I can’t remember noticing, to be honest.

        November 13, 2019 at 10:57 am
      • Greg Grimer

        One minute the are called, disloyal, heretics, schismatics and spiritual pornographers and the next they are questioned as to why they didn’t sign yet another protest letter. The SSPX drew their line in the sand 50 and 31 years ago and they haven’t had an ounce of help, or a penny piece, from conservatives since.

        Yet history has shown us they were right. Francis is not a cause, he is a symptpm of 60 years of modernist cancer in the Church.

        November 13, 2019 at 11:56 am
  • editor

    Update on Blogger Therese’s health concerns

    I’ve just received an email from Therese, thanking us for our prayers so far, which she believes have greatly sustained her, and asking for our continued spiritual support, because she is now scheduled for major surgery next Wednesday, 20 November.

    Please keep Therese in your prayers – she is exhibiting a wonderful spirit of faith, despite being, naturally, worried.

    Our Lady of Lourdes, Health of the Sick, pray for her…

    November 12, 2019 at 8:45 pm
    • Margaret Mary

      I’m keeping Therese’s health intentions in my daily prayers. I look forward to hearing good news about her operation next week.

      November 12, 2019 at 11:00 pm
    • gabriel syme


      Thank you for the update and please give Therese our best wishes.

      November 13, 2019 at 8:44 pm
  • Michaela

    This is from Catholic World Report today – Jesus did not intend his Church to be run by a committee.

    November 13, 2019 at 11:25 am
  • westminsterfly

    Most novus ordo parishes wouldn’t even KNOW about these things. They just live in their own self-serving little bubbles, and as long as they do a few ‘good works’ (i.e. raise a few bob for CAFOD) they are quite content and self-satisfied. I recently attended a talk by an Indian novus ordo priest (not by choice, I might add), and he was busy telling us about all the ‘good works’ of his Order in the so-called ‘missions’, and how many muslims and hindus work for them, and how they all get on, etc etc. When one of those attending asked if they had actually made any converts in all the years they had been there, the priest seemed genuinely astonished and somewhat annoyed. They haven’t a clue.

    November 13, 2019 at 12:28 pm
    • Greg Grimer

      In reality they have a different creed and a different religion altogether.

      November 13, 2019 at 2:30 pm
    • editor


      I fear you are so right – the majority of Catholics (including priests) in diocesan parishes do not have a clue about this Pope. It’s mind-blowing, really.

      November 13, 2019 at 10:37 pm
    • editor


      Further to my previous reply to you on this topic, I found out first hand today just how right you are about this…

      I attended the silent protest (today, 12 noon) to mark the 6 years since Father Despard (Motherwell) was suspended from the active ministry for writing his book exposing homosexuality within the Church in Scotland.

      The organisers had brought along posters to hold up and they handed in a letter addressed to Bishop Toal, who is responsible for suspending Fr Despard (and for leaving another – “gay” rights activist priest – in post, despite our several approaches to him on the subject.)

      There was a very good attendance – I’d say between 50-60 gathered outside the church of St Gerard’s, where the Bishop resides.

      I’d received permission to hand out a few copies of the current newsletter which were left over from the distribution, so at the end of the fifteen minutes of silent protest, I approached some individuals to ask if they had heard of us and when (except in one case) the reply was in the negative, I then asked if they had heard or read about the Amazon Synod, and the Pope’s praying before a pagan goddess. 100%, the replies were negative. None of the people to whom I spoke knew anything about this scandal, and in several instances, when I further asked if they were aware that the Church is in crisis, the replies were equally negative

      One lady, member of the older generation, clearly didn’t want to know. Her friend, who had seemed interested and had taken the newsletter willingly, offered to let her read it first, but she declined. Brings to mind the rebuke of Jeremiah about bad priests, how “my people love it”. These bad priests/false prophets make no demands on the people and so they continue on their way to a terrible judgment.

      Still, there were a few (one young lady in particular) who willingly took the newsletter and so – as was our aim at launch way back in 1999 – we continue to try to alert our fellow Catholics, one at a time, as we meet them.

      And there is a bit more good news. One of our readers had also sought and been given permission to distribute literature – Fatima materials and those went well. Indeed, one Protestant lady, who had attended the protest because she has known Fr Despard since his boyhood days, took some of the material including a miraculous medal and leaflet, so I have no doubt that, as well as disturbing the conscience of the Bishop in his discriminatory treatment of Fr Despard, some, at least, of those present may have started on that very important journey back to the Faith of our Fathers.

      We should pray to that end…

      November 16, 2019 at 10:59 pm
  • editor

    N O T I C E. . .

    I am interrupting this thread to post some sad news.

    One of the men who attends the Glasgow [SSPX] church of St Andrew, Michael Baker, has died, peacefully, in the Royal Infirmary, today. For the record, this thread is truly appropriate for this news because Michael, despite his poor health and mobility, was a real apostle. In his own way, as often as possible, he DID cause uproar! He wrote letters to the Catholic press and distributed literature (including our newsletter) when and where he could.

    He has been ill for a long time but remained active until his recent admission to hospital. His wife is also not very well; although Michael has not been in good health for quite some time, his passing has come suddenly, so please pray, both for Kay, his wife, and for the repose of Michael’s soul.

    May he rest in peace…

    November 13, 2019 at 7:55 pm
    • gabriel syme


      What sad news. I will be sure to pray for Michael and his wife Kay.

      May he rest in peace.

      November 13, 2019 at 8:44 pm
      • editor

        Gabriel Syme,

        Very sad news. So sudden.

        November 13, 2019 at 10:36 pm
  • editor

    Just received this YouTube video by email – not had time to watch it but since it refers to English bishops, here it is, for the record, and for your prayers…

    November 13, 2019 at 10:36 pm
    • Greg

      Well, as an Englishman, I can proudly say I have given no money to these child abusers and their accomplices for the past 43 years. All my donations have gone to the SSPX, independent priests who say the TLM only, and Stephen Brady of Roman Catholic Faithful who exposes these evil men.

      November 15, 2019 at 6:55 am
      • editor


        That’s good, not to donate to the diocesan coffers. We have been encouraging that since our launch in 1999. Well done. And, as you indicate, “Roman Catholic Faithful” have done superb work in the USA in exposing the extent of homosexuality within the Church over there.

        November 15, 2019 at 10:06 am
  • westminsterfly

    +Nichols won’t stand down unless he’s forced to. His sense of entitlement to his position is overweening.

    November 14, 2019 at 10:35 am
  • editor

    N O T I C E . . .

    An update from Margaret USA, received by email this morning…

    We found out yesterday that Mom has colon cancer. She doesn’t have long to live.

    Please ask the entire CT family to pray for my mother Helen.

    Also, how is Therese?

    Mother of Sorrows, pray for us.

    Health of the Sick, pray for us and them!

    Yours in Christ the King,
    Margaret 🇺🇸

    November 14, 2019 at 11:44 am
    • Therese


      Your Mom is in my prayers. May God and His Blessed Mother strengthen her in her time of trial. I am keeping all of you, and all of your intentions, in my prayers.

      Thanks to you and to everyone for your prayers; you know who your friends are (both mortal and heavenly in times like this!) I am feeling well, operation next Wednesday, last rites on Monday (just in case!).

      God bless all.

      November 14, 2019 at 4:38 pm
      • Margaret USA

        Dear Therese,

        Thank you and all the CT family for your prayers. We’re making arrangements for hospice care Friday morning.

        I hope your surgery is successful. Sending you hugs & prayers.

        Yours in Christ the King,

        Margaret 🇺🇸

        November 14, 2019 at 7:24 pm
  • Lily

    Praying for Therese, Helen, Kay and the repose of Michael’s soul.

    November 14, 2019 at 4:25 pm
  • Josephine

    This is the most ridiculous thing yet (pagan worship aside) – Year of Ecumenism etc. I never heard of that before.

    I am remembering everyone who asks for prayers in my own.

    November 14, 2019 at 8:46 pm
  • Marc

    Scalfari will say literally anything to sell papers. This is a complete non-story. I find it somewhat nauseating that you people have (seemingly) nothing better to do than attack your spiritual leader, and I’m not even a catholic. Shame on you.

    November 15, 2019 at 8:43 am
    • editor


      Would YOU keep giving interviews to someone who misquoted you – in the most shocking way – time after time?

      Really? I wouldn’t. I would jump immediately to correct any misquotes (as I have done in the past when misquoted in the secular and “Catholic” press, to avoid the scandal of people thinking I hold to erroneous/heretical views or have done something immoral, like attend a funeral of a homosexual and caused a disturbance. Never happened, but was reported in a national Scottish newspaper. I HAD to correct that or be guilty myself of perpetuating scandal. And in case you hadn’t noticed, I’m a nobody. The Pope MUST correct anything attributed to him in an interview – and then stop giving interviews to that atheist journalist.)

      So, don’t gimme “Scalfari’s to blame”. Wrong.

      PS – Catholicism is not a cult – only cult leaders are above criticism. Popes are not.

      November 15, 2019 at 10:14 am
      • Marc


        It wasn’t an interview per se, it was a private conversation which Scalfari decided to make public. Much like yourself, I would have nothing to do with people who continuously fabricated stories about me but I’m not exactly the forgiving type; the Pope is, and has to be – or (at least) be seen to be.

        Where you and I differ, however, is that I would not feel remotely compelled to correct an erroneous story about me – particularly if/when it’s being put forward by a known liar, as Scalfari clearly is. More reasonable people will understand that the story is a fabrication without requiring the Pope jumping to defend himself.

        Scalfari is very old – maybe the Pope feels pity for him, who knows? He clearly doesn’t feel obliged, however, to correct anything coming from Scalfari and, in my opinion, nor should he. The Vatican already stated what the Catholic Church believes and, as Pope, it should be beyond reason that he shares the same beliefs.

        Editor: here’s the standard way the relationship between Pope Francis and Scalfari is reported: In the latest edition of La Repubblica, Pope Francis’ longtime atheist friend and interviewer, Eugenio Scalfari, claims… So, don’t be daft. If the Pope didn’t want his conversations with Scalfari out there in the public domain, he wouldn’t give them. After all, he was quick enough to tell the journalists on the plane back to Rome from Ireland last summer, that “he would remain silent” about the child abuse scandal which centred on the American Cardinal (now plain Mr) McCarrick, most particularly the part which implicated himself. So, he can keep his mouth shut when it suits him.

        You are certainly right in one thing; that it should go without saying that the Pope (every pope) “shares [Catholic] beliefs” – it really should. But this pope has made clear that he doesn’t. As for the rest – gerragrip.

        November 15, 2019 at 3:23 pm
      • Frankier


        Even liars can often tell the truth and many honest persons can lie. Even an old liar can get facts right at times.

        Being paranoid doesn’t mean that people don’t talk about you behind your back, so everything isn’t always as it seems.

        As for willing to turn a deaf ear to any erroneous story about you. I suppose that would be OK if people were saying that you were a winner of the VC but what if someone kept accusing you of, say, stalking? Would you take steps to deny it or would you still keep following them and looking in their window?

        Answer only yes or no, please.

        November 16, 2019 at 7:10 pm
      • Marc


        I would love to give you a detailed answer but, unfortunately, I am currently busy trying to figure out when my bagpipes will go out of tune. Between that, and trying to come up with a Roman numeral for zero, I just won’t be able to find the time. Please accept my most sincerest of apologies.


        November 17, 2019 at 2:08 am

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