Coronavirus & the Unfolding of the Fatima Prophesy About Chastisement

Coronavirus & the Unfolding of the Fatima Prophesy About Chastisement

From the Fatima Center…

So, all the models about astronomical death tolls and the collapse of medical systems due to the Wuhan virus have proven wrong, as even Governor Cuomo of New York admitted on April 14:

“The president’s projection, Peter Navarro’s projection, CDC’s projection, White House Coronavirus task force projection, then the Gates model, Columbia model, Cornell model. They were all wrong, and it’s good news…”

The “president’s projection” and the “White House Coronavirus task force projection” are both the work of Dr. Anthony Fauci and Dr. Deborah Birx. Both of these characters operate within the web of Bill Gates- and George Soros-funded organizations whose overall strategy is the creation of a globalist New World Order to which Donald J. Trump is the only remaining impediment, as Jeffrey Sachs complained at the Vatican as seen in this remarkable video.

People everywhere are beginning to realize they’ve been had by the “experts” and the state governors who continue to strangle social and economic life with preposterous lockdowns to which there are so many exceptions that no one can seriously think they have saved us from millions of deaths from a virus that, in the end, will be no more deadly than the bad flu seasons accepted as a fact of life.

Nowhere is the evil of this suddenly emergent tyrannical regime more apparent than in this interview of Dr. Fauci by one Peter Hamby which appeared in Vanity Fair. Hamby asked Fauci if people who wish to engage in illicit sexual encounters using “apps” such as Tinder may do so despite the lockdowns. Fauci’s answer is devastating to the whole rationale for the lockdowns:

“If you’re willing to take a risk — and you know, everybody has their own tolerance for risks — you could figure out if you want to meet somebody. And it depends on the level of the interaction that you want to have. If you’re looking for a friend, sit in a room and put a mask on, and you know, chat a bit. If you want to go a little bit more intimate, well, then that’s your choice regarding a risk.”

So, according to Fauci, one can assume the risk of contracting the virus by way of immoral sexual encounters, but no one may assume the “risk” of attending Mass or going to work in “non-essential” businesses! That is, the state will not permit the “risk” of doing what is right while turning a blind eye to immoral activity that really is risky, both physically and spiritually — including abortion.

It could not be clearer that the lockdown regime has nothing to do with “saving lives” and everything to do with social engineering for the “post-COVID world”. On the pretext of a virus, normal social and economic activities are forbidden while abominable sins are allowed to continue without restriction.

This monumental fraud is, quite simply, the devil’s work. And it is yet another sign of the diabolical disorientation of the Church that not only are the Church’s leaders willing to suppress Catholic worship at the command of Caesar, but are themselves exploiting the command of Caesar to participate in social engineering that involves, to quote Pope Saint Pius X in Notre Charge Apostsolique, “a tumultuous agitation, sterile for the end proposed, but which… brings Socialism in its train.” To quote the dreadful Easter Sunday letter from Francis to “the Popular Movements,” which says nothing about Christ: “I hope that this time of danger will free us from operating on automatic pilot, shake our sleepy consciences and allow a humanist and ecological conversion…. You are the indispensable builders of this change that can no longer be put off.”

That a mere virus would be the pretext to accelerate the end stage of civilizational apostasy is something perhaps no one saw coming — at least not this writer. But here it is. How much longer, one wonders, will Heaven defer the chastisement owing to a world in rebellion against Christ and to the defection of a Catholic hierarchy that has de facto abandoned His divine commission to make disciples of all nations? Source – Fatima Center (emphasis added)


It surprises me that Chris Ferrara does not seem to believe that this lockdown of the world is the beginning of the chastisement of which Our Lady warned at Fatima.  It seems to me that the closure of churches, the disappearance of priests and bishops, including those traditional priests regarded by some of us as having been sent by God to see us through this diabolical disorientation, makes that conclusion undeniable.   Share your opinion – maybe you consider that the chastisement will begin in some more ostentatiously dramatic fashion?

Cowardly clergy hiding away and denying the faithful the sacraments is pretty dramatic in my book, and I believe there is more to come, but that the Fatima prophecies are unfolding before our very eyes, seems undeniable to me.

Our Lady warned that Russia would spread her errors:  Russia’s major error was Communism, which has spread far and wide, including to China which is now a key Communist threat to the world and is heavily involved, in most sinister fashion, in this Coronavirus “crisis”.  Our Lady warned of a chastisement if the Pope failed to consecrate Russia as prescribed. Russia was the first nation on earth to publicly deny the very existence of God. That has to be corrected. Yet,  successive popes have failed to obey  God’s Fatima Message.  I see the current lockdown state of the world – with the cowardly clergy centre-stage – as the beginning of the Fatima prophesied chastisement.  What about you?  What do you think?   


Comments (171)

  • westminsterfly

    If the Fatima apparitions take the same trajectory as the Sacred Heart apparitions – i.e. the King of France declined to consecrate France to the Sacred Heart and 100 years to the day, his chastisement for ignoring Our Lord’s request started in earnest:-
    The formal request to consecrate Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary was made on June 13th 1929. We are now nine years away from the 100th anniversary of that event. As I said, if Fatima follows the same trajectory, and the apparition at Rianjo (see previous link) gives good reason to think that it might, then we may be in for a rough ride until 2029, when nations could be annihilated. But Our Lady has promised that the consecration will be done, although it will be late, and that Her Immaculate Heart will triumph. But even so, I don’t think we’re going to get away with it lightly before 2029 – and don’t deserve to either.
    Apart from the primary scourge of no access to the Sacraments or the Real Presence, look at the many other scourges in the world today – to numerous to mention here. Maybe it’s just me but I don’t see people turning back to God because of this current crisis – although one can never gauge what is happening in people’s souls. It seems the majority just want to return to the ‘normality’ they had before. I think they can kiss that goodbye.

    April 21, 2020 at 12:51 pm
    • Josephine

      Westminster Fly,

      People are not turning back to God because they don’t think this is part of the chastisement from God. They just think it’s a blip on their easy going lives and it will be only when they realise we are in the grip of a Communist system of government, by the extended erosion of our civil liberties (which will continue after lockdown – they will find small ways to do that, e.g. wearing face masks under certain conditions, that kind of thing) that eventually the penny will drop. I think though that that very blindness is part of the chastisement. Anyone really trying to live the message recognises which this is. That’s been my experience on the phone to friend and family. Only those who know about Fatima and believe in it, realise that this is no government concern for our health. They’re not that blind.

      April 21, 2020 at 1:44 pm
      • Josephine

        “recognises what this is”, also “friends and family” – sorry for typos.

        April 21, 2020 at 1:45 pm
    • RCAVictor


      I vaguely recall a story that Fr. Gruner, not long before his sudden death in 2015, met with Fr. Gabriel Amorth, the exorcist, who told him that the chastisement was about to begin in earnest. Do you recall any details about that?

      April 21, 2020 at 5:08 pm
      • westminsterfly

        I don’t recall hearing that, but even if he did say it, I don’t take every word uttered by Fr Amorth (may he rest in peace) as reliable. He believed in Medjugorje.

        April 23, 2020 at 9:02 am
    • editor


      I’ve grown to think more and more that the 2029 scenario may well fit the bill.

      I hope not, as the thought of living in this dysfunction ecclesiastical situation for almost another decade is painful. On the other hand, that is a very short time, really.

      It will be fascinating to watch how things unfold in the months and years to come. At least, we have the comfort of Our Lady’s assurance that her Immaculate Heart will triumph in the end.

      April 21, 2020 at 9:11 pm
      • catholicconvert1

        Can you explain the 2029 scenario? I’ve never heard of it.

        April 22, 2020 at 6:51 pm
      • westminsterfly

        Please read my first comment in this thread and especially the 2nd link about the Tuy apparition to Sr Lucia in 1929. That should explain it.

        April 23, 2020 at 9:04 am
    • Maurice

      In actual fact, the King of France did indeed concentrate France to the sacred heart
      Oddly, it was explicitly stated that it would never be too late, so it is very strange that France fell to the Jacobins, Freemasons and Revolutionaries despite the concentration being carried out. Also, odd that Monarch not a Bishop was asked to do this.

      Like the various other concentrations of Russia to the Immaculate Heart, no doubt we will say that the King’s consecration of France to the Sacred Heart did not follow the exact formula or include all the elements or some such other technicality.

      Editor: yes, you have to wonder, don’t you, why God bothers to give specific instructions (the Ten Commandments spring to mind) especially when He is requesting consecrations of nations – I mean, does it really matter? Why not just say “get someone to perform this or that consecration, just do whatever it takes” – wouldn’t that make much more sense? It would certainly save us getting bogged down in these “technicalities” as you say.

      April 22, 2020 at 7:32 pm
      • Athanasius


        The King of France consecrated the country to the Sacred Heart when he was in prison awaiting death, a bit late to make his act public as requested by heaven.

        Our Lady likewise called for a public an solemn consecration of Russia to her Immaculate Heart by the Pope and all the bishops in one timed act because heaven wanted the world to see that it was through Our Lady’s intercession that Russia was converted.

        Now you may call failures to meet these specifics “technicalities”, but the rest of us see them as a wholesale refusal to obey God, with the spread of evil as a result.

        April 22, 2020 at 9:21 pm
      • RCAVictor


        Did you actually take the time to read Louis XVI’s vow? It is not a Consecration of anything, but a promise to perform it. among other things, should he recover his freedom (which, despite the claims of the website you cite, clearly indicates that he was already under arrest).

        Here is the passage just before his five vows:

        O adorable Heart, by the so pure hands of my powerful intercessors, receive with kindness the wishes that confidence inspires in me and that I offer to You like the humble expression of my feelings. If, by an effect of the infinite kindness of God, I recover my freedom, my crown and my royal power, I promise solemnly: [the five vows follow]

        Also, where did you get the information that “it would never be too late”? That is nowhere to be found in the article you cite, nor in the Catholic Encyclopedia article on St. Margaret Mary Alacoque.

        And just to call into further question your source, consider this statement:

        The fact that the Vow was not discovered until the 1870’s demolishes the claim of some that it was merely a product of pious forgery during the 1814-1830 Restoration.

        To the contrary, the fact that it was not discovered until the 1870s would tend to prove that it was a forgery. Forgery or not, what would prove its authenticity was if it had been discovered before 1814, not 45 years later!

        All this said, there remains the original story, which was that Louis XVI did indeed perform a Consecration while under arrest – and, clearly, that was too late, since he ended up having no place to put his crown…

        April 22, 2020 at 9:46 pm
  • Athanasius

    If anything this Coronavirus nonsense is related to Fatima only insofar as Communism is extending its grip on the world. Look at the stats and you’ll see that only the world’s leading economies are badly affected by this virus, and within these the financial capitals are worst hit, New York, London, Milan, Paris, etc., which is not how pandemics work.

    I smell geopolitical orchestration with this virus, which, as I have said before, is hardly the plague upon us. There is no question in my mind that certain countries are capitalising on Covid-19 to bring about changes to our way of life that they could not otherwise have imposed. The death rate from infections is not sufficient to explain the drastic action of national lockdown. It just doesn’t add up!

    April 21, 2020 at 1:03 pm
    • editor


      That IS the point – that IS the connection to Fatima, not whether the Coronarvirus is worse than previous viruses. Our Lady didn’t come to earth to debate statistics. She came to warn us that Communism would extend and tighten i’s grip on the world, to use your description, and that it would take the Consecration of the first Communist State – that is, the first nation to publicly deny the very existence of God, to restore peace and good order in the world. She asked for it in a particular manner, apparently seeking a public demonstration of simple faith to repair the damage done to the Godhead by the Russian Communist denial. Too simple, however, for the “intellectuals” like Pope Benedict.

      We are witnessing the intensifying of the Communist ambition to rule the world. We have permission to leave our homes only for necessary food and medicine. We are only permitted one walk per day blah blah. We are being brainwashed – “stay home, protect the NHS, save lives.”

      How much clearer can it be? We are already under the thumb of China – to where Russia spread it’s primary error – Communism – and the grip is getting tighter by the day.

      We are told in one news report today that the “curve” has “flattened” and in the next that we need a further extension of the lockdown. Signed, Confused, Glasgow.

      What on EARTH will it take to waken up the people – including the Catholic people – to the fact that we have already kissed goodbye to our freedom, such as it was. And that Russia HAS spread her key error, big time.

      This much is clear, as you have so eloquently pointed out in various posts: it’s got nothing whatsoever to do with viruses or plagues. We are being manipulated. What will it take for people to see that? At least as Catholics, we have the Fatima warnings to alert us – but when with the rest of the apparently brainless population, not to mention Pope Francis, come to their senses? When will they wake up and smell the dictatorship threatening us?

      April 22, 2020 at 7:41 pm
      • Presbyter Catholica

        Dear Editor,

        I agree with everything you say regarding Communism and the manipulation of the people. However, may I ask, what do you think “the people” should do about it? Our Lady asked us to pray the Rosary every day, fulfil our duty of State and make the five first Saturdays. What would you like people to do beyond that?

        It seems to me that the lay faithful should concentrate on the above and leave the rest to God. Our Lady did not ask for us to point out errors, protest, write newsletters etc.

        April 22, 2020 at 9:00 pm
      • Athanasius

        Presbyter Catholica

        With respect, I think you’re wrong about what the Catholic laity should be doing, or rather the limits they should observe in what they do.

        We all have a Confirmation duty to oppose error, especially in the public domain, hence websites like this one. If the hierarchy and priests in the Church more or less go along with the trends of the world, some even preaching heterdoxy or outright heresy with impunity, then it falls to the laity to challenge their errors even in public. St. Robert Bellarmine made this duty clear when he said that it is incumbent upon subordinates in the Church to challenge the errors of superiors, though without bitter judgment.

        Obviously our first duty is to pray and offer sacrifices, as Our Lady of Fatima said, but duty of state is not just doing our daily jobs, etc., it includes our Catholic duty when the state turns apostate, if you know what I mean.

        To simply pray that all turns out well in the end while keeping our heads below the parapet is a bit of a let off for the indifferent and/or the cowardly, I think. No, we have to defend the truth in public no matter what, after we’ve said our prayers of course.

        April 22, 2020 at 9:34 pm
      • Presbyter Catholica

        Dear Athanasius

        Thank you for that beautiful post. I think there are plenty of opportunities in the day to day life of a lay Catholic to work for the Kingship of Christ.

        April 22, 2020 at 10:26 pm
      • Athanasius

        Presbyter Catholica

        You’re absolutely right about that, but none more testing of our fidelity than front line work, suitably prepared for by prayer and carried out in accordance with Catholic social teaching.

        Think of it as two soldiers in a trench during warfare, both pray the rosary together following which one gets up to face the enemy while the other says “you go ahead, I’ll just stay put and offer more rosaries for an end to this”. Which of the two would be doing his proper duty before God?

        There are limits to what lay Catholics can do practically at this time, but they shouldn’t be set so fine as just praying. Remember the maxim: “Wickedness abounds because good men do nothing”.

        It’s a sad fact that for most of us some form of interaction with social media is part of daily life. I personally detest modern technology, even though I make my living from it (IT), but it’s there and it needs balance from Catholics doing precisely what you advocate for the Kingship of Christ, within reason of course.

        April 23, 2020 at 2:05 am
      • editor

        Presbyter Catholica,

        What I think we should all do about this scandal, this lockdown, is resist. Right now, we’re all complying. We’ve moved on from washing our hands and singing Happy Birthday to living in splendid isolation, avoiding all human contact, as instructed, and obeying the State by only purchasing food and medicines. I mean, puleeese! We don’t need Sherlock on the case to see that there is something suspicious going on here – do we?.

        Would it be a mortal, one wonders, (or even a venial) sin to break any of these new “temporary” (yeah right) rules? Pay a visit to a friend or relative? Buy a new (red) dress or (pale blue) top? A new (purple with green dots) coat even? Shock horror! We’re talking non-essential items, here! What kind of penance would I get, thinkest thou? We’re surely not talking three Hail Marys.

        As for praying and leaving the rest to God. Betcha Our Lord wished He’d thought of that. Living in the Trinity, one might say, IS prayer. Yet, Our Lord chose to come among us and… well… the rest is (literally) history.

        We are baptised and confirmed Soldiers of Christ and what soldiers do – by definition – is fight.

        I’m in… are you?

        April 23, 2020 at 12:22 am
      • Spiritus


        agree with you about not complying with regulations. I hope that pretty soon people will get fed up of being imprisoned in their own homes, and defy the order to remain put. Or maybe not……….. I have encountered quite a number of spiritually blind people who seem to be enjoying the chaos that exist at the moment and do not particularly wish the lockdowns to end. I even said to one lady “can’t you see that you are being CONTROLLED” to which she returned me the polite smile and the “you poor worked-up individual,,,,, take a chill pill” look….

        April 23, 2020 at 10:07 pm
      • Athanasius


        The difficulty, and I think Hitchins touched on this, is that most people have bought into this lockdown by government on the grounds that it’s fort heir own good. I think it was something like 94% of people are in favour of the government lockdown. Hence, even if we break the rules and go out more often, there’s nowhere to go! All shops, businesses and chapels are closed, as are many parks. They have us right where they want us, under house arrest whether we like it or not, and unless greater numbers of people start to raise their voices against this imposition by government then I suspect it’s only going to get worse. That old chestnut comes to mind here: “Evil abounds because good men do nothing” The people, largely atheistic now, can’t see what’s happening.

        April 23, 2020 at 10:37 pm
      • Athanasius


        I don’t think there’s anything in your comment that I disagree with. Maybe I just didn’t make my earlier comments clear enough.

        April 22, 2020 at 9:35 pm
  • Josephine

    There is absolutely no doubt whatsoever that this worldwide lockdown, with priests and bishops showing their true apostate colours, is part of the Fatima foretold chastisement. I don’t think it’s the beginning, I think it began a long time ago, but it is now accelerating. Anybody who is waiting for something more dramatic needs to read what Christ said about reading the signs of the times.

    I think Chris Ferrara, most surprisingly, is one of those who is waiting for the sky to fall in but that’s not how God works. He sent Our Lady to Fatima to warn us of the way Communism would conquer the world unless Russia gets consecrated, and the way the faith would be destroyed in millions of souls if the church hierarchy went down the Vatican II road. To me, it’s obvious, just reading the signs of the times.

    April 21, 2020 at 1:40 pm
    • Athanasius


      You have more or less just confirmed what I have always thought and said, which is that the chastisement is principally spiritual in nature, the loss of faith on a grand scale, to such an extent that bishops are quite content to lock the churches down without a whimper. Whatever may happen materially in this world, nothing will ever come close to this tragedy, the loss of millions of souls for all eternity.

      April 21, 2020 at 1:46 pm
      • Margaret Mary


        By the very fact of Communism tightening its grip on the world, we see the Fatima prophesies coming true. Communism is an atheistic system, so whatever the economics of it all, it is the determination to persecute believers that is at the heart of Communism. It is definitely being manifested in this Coronavirus nonsense (as you correctly describe it!)

        IMHO, this is definitely the beginning and it’s going to get worse. If the cowardly behaviour of the clergy is anything to go by, we are in it on our own. No wonder Our Lady stressed the Rosary. Masses are going to be in short supply at times of crisis.

        Also, doesn’t the SSPX discourage people from watching TV or even having one in their homes? Also the internet? LOL! Now they’re encouraging us to watch live-streamed Masses from our machines. It’s really something else.

        April 21, 2020 at 2:32 pm
      • Athanasius

        Margaret Mary

        I think the SSPX rightly sees the danger in TV so generally discourages the watching of it, indiscriminate watching anyway. Using it for good in this particular time of trial is fine, though I think many people livestream the Masses on their computers rather than on TV.

        As regards Fatima and this Coronavirus, God is certainly permitting this present catastrophe to unfold, whatever evil lies behind it. We live in a world now that wants only pleasure, doesn’t want God and His laws, typical atheistic materialism, or Communism, so there will be many evils unfolding one after the other, which is what happens in a world turned against its Creator.

        We’ve had Islamic terrorism, wars all over the place, deadly viruses of this kind and that kind, now we have Coronavirus. There’s always something to keep the people terrified and axcuse further intrusion of the police state into our lives. The Communist net has almost closed on all our once-Christian cultures and this so-called pandemic may just prove to be the padlock that seals the gate shut on our civil liberties. But no matter how much suffering these things bring to us on earth, none of it compares with the supernatural chastisement going on right now as millions, possibly billions, of people turn from God and consign themselves to an eternity of Hell. When Socialism gets into a country, and it’s in most countries now, it robs them of God, morals and money, the unholy trinity of Communism.

        April 21, 2020 at 4:08 pm
      • Laura


        I think the SSPX also frowns on use of the internet, but be that as it may, the indiscriminate use of anything, whether reading material, TV or the internet, is not a good thing. I think that most people realise that, but I have a memory from years ago (so maybe it no longer applies) that parents could not get their children into the SSPX school in England unless they signed to say the family had no TV and the mother didn’t wear trousers. No comment!

        About the Fatima connection to what is going on – it’s as clear as daylight. Communism would have been stopped in its tracks if the Popes – at least one of them – had consecrated Russia in the manner asked for by Our Lady. We are suffering the consequences now, of them failing to do that.

        You list all the different things we’ve had to suffer, Islamic terrorism etc. But that is precisely because of the failure to consecrate Russia which has led to the growth of Communism. Until Russia is consecrated, things will go from bad to worse. I can’t see how anyone can fail to see that – I think you do see it, by the way, I’m just ranting, LOL!

        The Pope definitely doesn’t see it, though – that’s the worry.

        April 21, 2020 at 4:37 pm
      • Athanasius


        That the Pope must consecrate Russia is a given if all these various troubles are to end. I didn’t mention it specifically because it has been said so many times and is clearly obvious.

        Sadly, under Pope Francis there seems to be absolutely no possibility that the consecration will be done. In fact this Pope is so left leaning that I half expect him to consecrate the world to Beijing’s “Great Leader”! Let us not forget that for the past 18 months, since the Vatican signed a secret deal with China, the underground Catholic Church has almost been wiped out. Cardinal Zen lamented the betrayal only recently.

        As for the episode you refer to re children at St. Michael’s school, I remember it well. That was a particular District Superior with an extremely UnCatholic spirit who has since left the SSPX to join with other very unhappy extremists. Poor soul!

        April 21, 2020 at 6:50 pm
      • editor


        Unfortunately, the message about the Consecration isn’t getting through to the majority, so – much as it irritates us – we need to keep pushing it.

        I did laugh at your remark about this Pope being more likely to consecrate the world to “Beijing’s ‘Great Leader’! Priceless. Sad, true, but priceless just the same 😀

        April 21, 2020 at 8:55 pm
      • Presbyter Catholica

        There’s is no set SSPX policy on this. Some priests have a stronger view than others.

        April 22, 2020 at 10:28 pm
      • Athanasius

        Presbyter Catholica

        With respect, I beg to differ. Archbishop Lefebvre together with the four bishops he consecrated made a solemn consecration of Russia to Our Lady’s Immaculate Heart in lieu of the full official papal/episcopal event when it finally happens. The SSPX has always been clear about the link between the crisis in the Church and the Consecration of Russia, even if some of its priests sadly fail to impress the fact upon the faithful.

        April 22, 2020 at 11:43 pm
      • Presbyter Catholica

        Dear Athanasius,

        With respect, you haven’t followed the line of conversation. The policy to which I referred to was a policy on television.

        April 29, 2020 at 10:04 pm
      • editor

        Presbyter Catholica,

        With respect to YOU, you have not been clear – the conversation had moved on from TV to the Consecration of Russia.

        So, in Athanasius Vs Presbyter Catholica, Athanasius wins 😀

        April 29, 2020 at 11:14 pm
      • Athanasius

        Presbyter Catholica

        In other words, I lost the plot? Wouldn’t be the first time. To be fair, though, the conversation had moved on to the Consecration of Russia which is why I mistook your comment as relative to it.

        April 30, 2020 at 12:26 am
      • editor


        Just to be clear – I forgot to say in my previous reply to you, that there is no contradiction between the Fatima warnings about Communism and the chastisement regarding the loss of souls.

        A Communist government means precisely that – the persecution of and martyrdom of countless Catholics. It’s been happening in China for years.

        That is why we must see God’s hand at work in this shocking lockdown. It definitely IS the further unfolding of the Fatima warnings – because Communism means the denial of the very existence of God. This is a grave situation – and not because the Government misread the statistics. But because the Government, knowingly or not, is being used by Satan to push the achievement of the Communist agenda – worldwide dominion.

        Trust me on this. Don’t trust me with a box of chocolates, but trust me on this 😀

        April 22, 2020 at 7:47 pm
  • RCAVictor

    I agree with Josephine, in that I think this chastisement (which it clearly is – sorry, Chris Ferrara, have you forgotten that God uses wicked human agents to chastise us?) began quite a while ago. Specifically, at Vatican II, two years after the Pope refused to release the Third Secret, and when the Conciliar Popes – not to mention Pius XII – failed to perform the Consecration of Russia as requested. Not to mention the failure of Vatican II to condemn Communism, i.e. the chosen instrument of our chastisement.

    (What a paradox: the nation that embodied the ideology being used to chastise us – Communism – will also be the nation that, once consecrated, precipitates the destruction of that ideology.)

    Considering where (in my opinion) it began, I also agree that the chastisement is initially spiritual, though it has material consequences, such as mysterious illnesses and economic crashes. When God sends a plague, He doesn’t have to specify that it will originate in a Communist bio-warfare lab in Wuhan. Likewise, when the eldest daughter of the Church was destroyed during the French Revolution, as a result of Louis XIV’s failure to perform another Consecration, God didn’t have to specify that Freemasons would be the agents of His wrath.

    (As a sidebar regarding Pius XII’s failure to perform the Consecration, I recently read Fr. Stehlin’s new (?) book about Fatima, called “The Great Secret of Fatima.” He posits therein that Pius XII’s orientation towards Fatima went from being very favorable to acting as though it didn’t exist. This change, he notes, occurred around 1952, not long after (1949) Cardinal Bea (one of the “progressives” and a Jesuit) became his confessor, and also because of the subversive writings of Fr. Dhanis, another Jesuit.)

    April 21, 2020 at 4:42 pm
    • Fidelis

      RCA Victor,

      What a brilliant comment – I learned more in that comment than almost anything else I’ve read on the subject.

      I totally agree about the significance of repressing the Third Secret – I think if that was released in total, the whole Catholic world would cry out for the consecration of Russia, and maybe the rest of the world as well!

      April 21, 2020 at 4:51 pm
    • westminsterfly

      Your last para is very worrying. It would link in with something else I’ve read that I’ve never understood – which I won’t go into at present for various reasons. I certainly know that the modernist Fr Dhanis helped to destroy Fatima – or at least turn it into a pious irrelevance, but I didn’t know that Pius XII may have been ‘worked on’ with regard to Fatima. Is there any way it can be verified that Cdl Bea did actually become his confessor in 1949 and that Pius XII’s ardour towards Fatima cooled after that?

      April 23, 2020 at 9:10 am
      • RCAVictor


        I don’t know what Fr. Stehlin’s sources were, but just to throw some conflicting information into the mix, the Wikipedia article says that Cdl. Bea became Pius XII’s Confessor in 1945, not 1949. Apparently, he was also not a Cardinal until elevated by John XXIII in 1959.

        The 1945 date is confirmed by this website:

        April 23, 2020 at 2:57 pm
      • RCAVictor


        Here is another article about Bea, on Catholic Family News: a 2019 interview with Abp. Vigano, who has this to say about Bea:

        “Since 1946 [yet another different date!], Pope Pius XII had fallen under the influence of his chosen confessor and spiritual director, Augustine Cardinal Bea, S.J., who, after the death of Pius XII, took as his personal secretary the young Irish priest Father Malachi Martin, S.J. Prior to Bea, the confessor of Pope Pius XII had been the stalwart Thomist theologian Michel-Louis Guérard des Lauriers, O.P., who had helped write the 1950 dogmatic decree on the bodily Assumption of the Blessed Virgin Mary. For some reason, Pius XII removed his trusted Guérard des Lauriers and began confessing to and receiving spiritual direction from the Jesuit Cardinal Bea.

        Cardinal Bea would reveal himself as a Modernist. He openly fought against the imposition of the anti-Modernist oath on clergy at Vatican II. He loved the new ‘ecumenism’ and worked with unbridled determination to appease Jewish rabbis and intellectuals and to remove anything they deemed anti-Semitic from Catholic teaching and liturgy (he would later draft for the Second Vatican Council Nostra aetate – the controversial document on the new ecumenism).”

        There is a footnote to this excerpt referencing Taylor Marshall’s new book, Infiltration, which I have not read, but which was referred to by someone on this blog not long ago, I think.

        April 23, 2020 at 3:03 pm
      • RCAVictor


        Sorry, one more thing, from Fr. Stehlin’s book (I received a PDF link to his book from a fellow blogger – whom I think you know, he is the SSPX Militia Immaculatae Coordinator for the UK – but I promised him I would not share the link, since Father is trying to sell his book).

        Here is an excerpt from Chapter II, “Fatima Despised”:

        “In 1952, Pope Pius XII entrusted Fr. J. Schweigl with the charge of interviewing Sr. Lucia, especially on the subject of the Third Secret. Fr. Schweigl delivered his report of Sr. Lucia’s responses to his questions to the Holy Office, but that report was never made public. At around the same time Pius XII began to change his position towards Fatima and he practically never spoke of Fatima again. We do not know the exact reason for such a radical change, but we can however advance some important hints: in 1949 a very progressivist hierarch, Cardinal Bea, became the confessor of Pius XII. At around the same time a change of attitude of Pius XII is to be noticed concerning the doctrine about Our Lady and her role in the work of salvation.
        Yet in his encyclical Mystici Corporis in 1943 he presents Our Lady as
        Co-redemptrix, as the New Eve and Mediatrix of all graces. Since 1950
        he avoids these terms and insists more on her power of intercession.
        Cardinal Bea had already a very ecumenical attitude towards the
        Protestants, and certainly wanted to please them. Maybe his influence
        on the Pope could have provoked this change of attitude.”

        (In Part I of this chapter he deals with Fr. Dhanis.)

        April 23, 2020 at 4:01 pm
  • Fidelis

    I’m actually puzzled about Chris Ferrara because I’m almost sure he’s said in a separate article that he sees this Coronavirus business as being part of the chastisement.

    Anyway, I have been browsing the website and copied this from their section on non-fulfilment of the Fatima consecration of Russia:

    “History has demonstrated the results of the Pope and bishops’ failure to consecrate Russia. We have seen countless wars and conflicts: World War II; the Korean and Vietnam Wars; countless bloody revolutions in Africa, Latin America and Southeast Asia; the recent Iraqi war, etc. Also, we have the war against the unborn being fought, even on our own soil, in which 50 million babies are killed every year worldwide.

    All around us we have evidence that we are not living in the period of peace promised by Our Lady of Fatima. Yet all of these horrible punishments could have been avoided, and future problems can still be avoided, through the Consecration of Russia. It is the Pope and bishops’ delay in fulfilling the command of God to perform a collegial Consecration of Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary that has allowed the terrible devastations of the past century – after 1929, when the formal command for the Consecration was given – to occur. The destruction will only continue to escalate if the conversion of Russia is not obtained; we will see the predicted enslavement of the whole world, and the actual annihilation of various nations.

    Thus the consequences of neglecting to perform this simple act of consecration are immeasurable. We must pray that it be done soon, and that we be spared from enslavement and annihilation. Just as the first Pope, St. Peter, was freed from prison by the early Christians’ prayers, our current Pope can be similarly aided by our prayers, so that he will finally obey Heaven’s requests and consecrate Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary.”

    It’s as plain on the noses of all our faces that this is God’s way of reminding us that we will be overtaken by brutal Communism if the Fatima Message is not fulfilled.

    Our Lady of Fatima is there for us, but we need to do all we can to bring about that fulfilment. We can do what we can, but only the Pope can do the consecration of Russia. What is wrong with the man!

    April 21, 2020 at 4:46 pm
  • RCAVictor

    Another thing we should note is that “Communism,” as a label, has now disguised itself in the West under a variety of names, such as globalism, multilateralism and environmentalism, and its ideology under such schemes as universal vaccination, climate change, open borders, abortion and homosexual “rights,” euthanasia, political correctness, etc.

    I hope that public awareness has risen to a level well beyond where people still think that “Communism is dead,” when in fact it has just changed its spots and is more dangerous than ever.

    April 21, 2020 at 4:50 pm
    • editor

      RCA Victor,

      That is one hugely important point you make about the term “Communism”. Absolutely it goes under the various names you list. If only people would think. Think, think, think. And when they’ve done that – think again!

      April 21, 2020 at 8:52 pm
  • RCAVictor

    Speaking of wicked men being the agents of God’s wrath, that obviously includes wolves-in-sheep’s-clothing clergy:

    April 21, 2020 at 5:12 pm
    • editor

      RCA Victor,

      Dreadful. Thank you for that link – shocking but not surprising, as ever.

      April 21, 2020 at 9:03 pm
  • editor

    By the way, the daily briefing from Downing Street today, led by the man, Health Secretary of State, Matt Hancock, whom I consider to be a tailor-made dictator, brought news that they are going to begin trials on a vaccine on humans this week – Thursday, to be precise. Can anyone (in their right mind) believe this? These trials usually take years. How do I know that? Because Dictator Hancock said so, in the same breath that he announced the trials beginning on Thursday.

    I would love to meet the humans who are participating in the trials.

    And I presume Matt Hancock and the PM will be the first to be vaccinated after the trial is (as it is sure to be) declared a success? Live? On TV?

    Yeah right.

    April 21, 2020 at 9:02 pm
    • RCAVictor


      Perhaps the UK hierarchy would volunteer for the initial trials…the rest I leave unsaid….

      April 21, 2020 at 11:51 pm
    • catholicconvert1

      I can’t wait for the day when I am called in for my vaccine. Until I get an assurance that the vaccine contains nothing from a foetus, I will, using the strongest language possible in the realm of godliness, politely refuse.

      April 22, 2020 at 7:05 pm
  • RCAVictor

    The Bitter Pill, aka The Tablet, has this story about the main SSPX chapel in Paris being fined for holding the Easter Vigil Mass during the “lockdown.”

    Aside from the typical leftist smear characterizing the SSPX as “ultratraditionalist,” (whatever that means), here’s a choice paragraph:

    “The YouTube broadcast of the vigil showed a large group of traditionally vested priests and altar servers there, none wearing masks or keeping social distance from each other. According to news reports, more than 20 people attended.”

    Can you imagine a Mass with masked clergy and servers, and trying to maintain “social distancing” while celebrating Mass? I can’t either, but just wait: some Communist martinet will decree that before too long.

    April 21, 2020 at 11:49 pm
  • RCAVictor

    Here’s a story of a heroic SSPX priest offering Mass in a locked-down Muslim country. Sounds almost like conditions during the English Deformation….er, “Reformation.”

    April 21, 2020 at 11:54 pm
  • Lily

    I think this is terrible – police trying to force a priest out during in Italy Mass (I think this is novus ordo but the priest has guts.)

    There is a video on YouTube (I just wish I could speak Italian!)

    April 22, 2020 at 12:10 am
  • Prognosticum

    Covid-19 the beginning of the chastisement promised at Fatima? Er, what about the 9-11 million soldiers estimated to have died in World War 1, to say nothing of the 8 million civilians estimated to have died in the same conflict, including the victims of war-related famine and disease? What about the horrors of the World War 2 –essentially a Russo-German conflict notwithstanding what we British, still in my day, were brought up to think (on this point Peter Hitchens is excellent and worth looking for on YouTube) – with its estimated 75 million deaths, including Hiroshima and Nagasaki which took man’s inhumanity to man to a whole new level? What about the horrors perpetrated by Stalin and Mao? What about the genocides in Cambodia, Bosnia, and Rwanda? What about 9/11? What about the opioid crisis in the United States which I believe killed more Americans in 2018 than died in the entire course of the Vietnam War. What about the estimated over 61 million abortions to have taken place in the United States alone since Roe v. Wade? What about the virtual collapse in the West of Christianity of all denominations? Covid-19 the beginning of the chastisement? As our esteemed Editor is wont to say on occasion, ‘Come on, gerra grip!’

    That said, what what Covid-19 has confirmed, in my view, is that mankind, notwithstanding the horrors of the bloody century it has left behind, has lost none of its appetite for attempting to create heaven on earth (Marxism is, let us not forget, a Christian heresy), even when the risk is a pandemic capable of bringing death and misery to millions in almost every country in the world. It would be very strange if such an emergency were not to be hijacked by ideological forces, especially on the Left, who see this as an opportunity to further their political agenda. In this Ferrara, not a writer I am particularly drawn to, is right.

    Leaving aside doctrinal questions such as the relationship between public and private Revelation which have been rehearsed here ad nauseam and over which tempers seem to flare very easily, I believe increasingly in the relevance of Fatima which warns us of the consequences of creating a world without God. God will not be mocked, not even by indifference, and seems ready to consent to mankind suffering the most appalling consequences for its hubristic folly which, it must be said, will be as nothing compared to pains of Hell. As far as Christians are concerned, I do think that the Covid-19 emergency is revealing a new level of secular intolerance for religion in general and the God of Jesus Christ in particular. If I am right, we really do have to sit up and take notice because a persecution could be just around the corner. However, the answer is not to retreat. It is to stand our ground and announce the love of God revealed in Jesus Christ more forthrightly and credibly than ever.

    Concerning the specific question of the consecration of Russia, here too I am not going to go over the old ground of whether it has been done and whether Sister Lucy said and/or thought that it had been done. What I will say is that even if one were to accept that the consecration of Russia would bring about a season of peace for the world, in the grand scheme of things it could only be a parenthesis, however long. The Book of Revelation leaves us in no doubt that the world will descend into chaos and misery before the return of the Saviour. Such, unfortunately, is our fallen human nature.

    April 22, 2020 at 10:12 am
    • editor


      With all due respect, it is clear that you are not a believer in the Fatima apparitions. As a friend of mine said several days ago, anyone who queries whether what is going on right now is part of the foretold chastisement, has not read the Fatima literature or, at least, not read it thoroughly enough for it to register. To which I would add, is unable to get past the political implications – Our Lady warned about Communism, not because she prefers Capitalism but because Communism is totally atheistic, brutal and will destroy the world. The restrictions under which we are living now, are classic Communist techniques. We are virtually under house arrest and subject to brainwashing.

      On public and private revelation. Fatima is the first ever apparition to promise a public miracle, giving the precise location, date and time, and which was thus lampooned in the secular (Communist) press, with armed guards sent to prevent crowds gathering. 70,000 people gathered nonetheless as did journalists, who, on witnessing the miracle of the sun, were converted on the spot. The reporting next day in the press was very different indeed to what had been hitherto planned. If you want to categorise that as a private revelation, you do that. I’ve always understood a private revelation to be … well… private – between the visionary and an individual. 70,000 people is, kinda, not so private.

      World War II was foretold at Fatima. Indeed, the unknown light which would be seen prior to the outbreak of war, was itself foretold. The New York Times devoted an entire page to that light and it was reported in every major newspaper at the time. I’m going over that again in the May newsletter, which reminds, me, I’m working hammer and tongs to finish that today, so I will be keeping a low profile. If you come back at me on this, I may not get to reply to it until much later today.

      Our Lady spoke of “wars and persecutions” in the Fatima apparitions, and she described, precisely, how the Consecration of Russia was to be carried out. Nobody, not even those who claim that it has been done, pretend that it was done as she prescribed. It has not. Manifestly. Unless you think (a) that she got it wrong by promising a period of world peace following that Consecration or (b) that we are, indeed, enjoying that period of world peace. Rather, it seems to me, that, frankly, you are in the Pope Benedict camp on this one – that something so simple, as a consecration of Russia, could bring about world peace. He, you see, being so much more intellectual, so much cleverer than Our Lady. Me, I’m a simple gal – I tend to the naïve view that God would not send His mother to earth to ask for something that The Pope Who Ran For Fear of the Wolves thinks cannot achieve His stated end.

      Tempers flaring? No, just a sense of frustration that, as Our Lady said so sadly, even the “good” are not bothering about her Message. It is all very clear – unless you make the monumental mistake of reading the false friends of Fatima type websites. Those who claim they believe then set about dismantling the apparitions and message, such as those who lie about Sister Lucy’s statements. The only wholly trustworthy source of information about Fatima is

      April 22, 2020 at 10:39 am
      • Prognosticum

        I will simply point out that if Our Lady at Fatima spoke of wars and persecutions, including the conflicts you specify, and I have never argued to the contrary, then COVID-19 can hardly, logically speaking, be the beginning of the chastisement. You seem now to be saying that COVID-19 is not the beginning, but rather a kind of upping of the tempo, so to speak, but that is not quite the same thing.

        Concerning the expression ‘Public Revelation’, I am using in the specifically Catholic theological sense. Catholic theology has traditionally made a very strong distinction between Public (sometimes called in English ‘universal’) Revelation which is commonly held to have concluded with the death of the last Apostle, and Private Revelation. If you think that Fatima was somehow re-opening up of the Public Revelation by God almost two thousand years after the death of the last apostle, then that, I have to tell you, is, in my humble opinion, heresy, pure and simple.

        You seem to be unaware that one of the sixty-five propositions condemned by the Decree Lamentabili sane exitu (the forerunner to Pope St. Pius X’s Encyclical Pascendi Dominici gregis) of the Sacred Congregation of the Holy Office ( 3 July 1907) (we are, let it not be forgotten, in the midst of the Modernist crisis), is the following: ‘That the Revelation, which constitutes the object of Catholic faith, did not conclude with the Apostles’ (Proposition 21). Already the First Vatican Ecumenical Council had taught, in the Fourth Chapter of its Dogmatic Constitution on the Catholic Faith Pastor Aeternus, devoted to nothing less than the Infallible Teaching Authority of the Roman Pontiff, that ‘the holy Spirit was promised to the successors of Peter not so that they might, by his revelation, make known some new doctrine, but that, by his assistance, they might religiously guard and faithfully expound the revelation or deposit of faith transmitted by the apostles’ (18 July 1870).

        This is just basic, bread-and-butter Catholic doctrine usually imparted in the first semester of any Catholic theology degree worthy of the name. But I stress that it is the concept of the ‘deposit of faith’, specifically Catholic, which is the key to this whole thing. As the Bavarian theologian Dr. Ludwig Ott (1906-1985), usually much quoted by traditionalists, said in his Fundamentals of Catholic Dogma (1955), page 7:

        With Christ and the Apostles General Revelation Concluded. Pope Pius X rejected the liberal Protestant and Modernistic doctrine of the evolution of religion through “New Revelations.” Thus he condemned the proposition that: “The Revelation, which is the object of Catholic Faith, was not terminated with the Apostles” (D 2021).

        The clear teaching of Holy Writ and Tradition is that after Christ, and the Apostles who proclaimed the message of Christ, no further revelation will be made. Christ was the fulfillment of the Law of the Old Testament (Mt. 5, 17; 2, 21 et seq.) and the absolute teacher of humanity (Mt. 23, 10: “One is your master, Christ”; cf. Mt. 28, 20). The Apostles saw in Christ: “the coming of the fullness of time” (Gal. 4,4) and regarded as their task, the preservation, integral and unfalsified, of the heritage of Faith entrusted to them by Christ (1 Tim. 6, 16; 6, 20; 2 Tim 1, 14; 2, 2; 3, 14). The Fathers indignantly repudiated the claim of the heretics to possess secret doctrines or new Revelations of the Holy Ghost. St. Irenaeus (Adv. Haer III 1; IV 35, 8), and Tertullian (De praesc. 21) stress, against the Gnostics, that the full truth of revelation is contained in the doctrine of the Apostles which is preserved unfalsified through the uninterrupted succession of the bishops.

        No, Editor, contrary to what you, if you do not mind my saying so, so summarily affirm, I do indeed believe in the authenticity of the appearances at Fatima of the Blessed Virgin. But, as a Catholic, I consider them to be firmly in the realm of Private Revelation. (Incidentally, Catholic doctrine and theology know no tertia via between Public and Private Revelation. To posit such a third way would inevitably be to wade recklessly into the mire of ongoing Revelation beloved by Quakers and Jehovah’s Witnessed precisely because they have no concept of depositum fidei.) And concerning Private Revelation, we would all do well to recall and reflect on what Pope Benedict XIV (1675-1758) taught (I think in his De Servorum Dei Beatificatione et de Beatorum Canonizatione, but I cannot locate my copy at the present time and have only to hand a note I made many years ago) concerning Private Revelation: ‘Even though many of these revelations have been approved, we cannot and we ought not to give them the assent of divine faith, but only that of human faith, according to the dictates of prudence whenever these dictates enable us to decide that they are worth of pious credence.’

        I think that here there has to be a complete re-think of how Fatima is presented on this Blog in the light of the fundamentals of the Catholic doctrine of the Revelation, because sometimes, frankly speaking, one has the impression that it is seen here almost a thirteenth article of faith which, if we accept the teaching of Benedict XIV and the whole of Tradition, it emphatically is not. The ‘full truth ‘of revelation is, as Dr. Ott states, contained in the doctrine of the Apostles, from which it follows that nothing contained in Private Revelation is necessary for salvation. The future of the Church and humanity is dependent not so much on their direct adherence to Fatima, which, let us not forget Catholics cannot be obliged to believe just as they cannot be obliged to believe any revelation, but on their adherence to Christ of which Fatima is, at the very most, a prophetic recall.

        Might I suggest that before we continue this debate that we all read the following article (published in the venerable Catholic Encyclopedia, 1907-1914) which, in my humble opinion, is a fair summary of the Catholic position from a theological and doctrinal point of view:

        April 23, 2020 at 2:39 pm
    • Athanasius


      I agree with some of what you say, but all. You are correct to point out that Covid-19 can hardly be said to represent the beginning of the chastisement, given the many greater sufferings humanity has had to endure since the Fatima apparitions of 1917. It is, however, a contiuation of the spread of the errors of Russia, bearing in mind that Russia is the source of China’s brutal Communism and remains to this day China’s closest ally. So Covid-19 represents a new and dangerous phase in the unfolding of the tragedy Our Lady predicted insofar as it presents, as we see, the opportunity for our own culturally Marxist leaders to introduce totalitarianism under the guise of saving lives.

      Looking at the present situation with this virus it becomes clearer and clearer that it is not behaving like a normal pandemic, which is to say only the world’s leading economies are badly affected by it. The question therefore arises: Is this a genuine killer virus or is it an orchestration by left wing governments and media to remove civil liberties, bring about geopolitical changes, most especially ridding the world of Donald Trump, the pro-life, anti-globalist leader of the free world who stands in their way, and ushering in a new era of strict state policing of the peoples of nations. If you look at how the various Socialist countries are behaving right now, the lockdowns, talk of mandatory vaccinations and the possible permanent wearing of face masks, eradication of handshaking, etc., these are all measures already in place in Beijing. At the same time, the WHO is covering for Beijing’s crime while the UN has just appointed China to its “Human Rights” Council at a time when it has not only holds the smoking gun for this deadly virus, if it exists at all, but is also currently brutalising the underground Catholic Church in China.

      In other words, apart from Donald Trump, the man they love to hate, every nation, including the UK, is at best silent on China or, at worst, supportive of China. The Chinese infiltration of our own sensitive national security networks, 5G and nuclear, tells its own story, as does the 2005 red carpet treatment when President Xi made his State visit here, including the honour of addressing parliament, an honour denied President Trump who met with hostility.

      Yes, I suspect there is a lot more going on than we reealise and it has to do with a shared international ideological leaning, namely Marxism.

      On that note, I have to take issue with your calling Marxism “a Christian heresy”, it is nothing of the sort. While it is true that the theoreticians, architects and peddlers of Marxism have enjoyed some success in adopting and perverting Catholic Social Justice principles, the people behind the evil are well known to be non-Christian. Besides that, hatred for God is well beyond mere doctrinal deviance being openly Luciferian in its words and deeds.

      As regards Fatima, the time of world peace promised by Our Lady will infallibly arrive at the end of the time of chastisement, when the Pope and bishops of the world are finally obliged to open their eyes and obey heaven.

      No one knows how long that time of peace and glorious restoration of all things in Christ will last, though it is thought that it would have to last some considerable time if its end is the appearance of Anti-Christ followed by the Last Judgment. In this regard, I will merely remind you that St. Peter said (can’t remember the exact Scriptural passage) “For God a day is as a thousand years and a thousand years is as a day”. I find that quite comforting, not to mention predictive of a period of peace in the world that will be quite lengthy prior to the final end. It will include involve the conversion of the Jews who will become the most ardent apostles of Our Lord.

      April 22, 2020 at 3:03 pm
      • Prognosticum

        A Christian heresy in the sense that it is, in essence, a perversion of the Gospel in an attempt to create heaven on earth.

        April 23, 2020 at 11:58 am
    • RCAVictor


      Given this sentence in your post, I’m not so sure you are a Fatima skeptic:

      I believe increasingly in the relevance of Fatima which warns us of the consequences of creating a world without God.

      As for your description of Marxism as a Christian heresy, please elaborate on this puzzling statement. I checked Belloc’s The Great Heresies to see if I’d missed something, particularly in the last chapter, “The Modern Phase,” but there is no mention of the modern phase as a heresy. Rather, he characterizes materialistic atheism (i.e. Marxism) as a facet of an all-out, comprehensive attack against the Church, whose aim is her destruction and the destruction of the civilization she built.

      April 22, 2020 at 4:47 pm
  • editor

    N O T I C E . . .

    I’ve just signed this petition to have Bill Gates investigated for crimes against humanity, and exhort everyone here to sign it as well.

    April 22, 2020 at 11:33 am
    • RCAVictor


      Thank you for that link, I’ve signed. And I didn’t know that a “Military World Games” was conducted in Wuhan on the same day as “Event 201.” The plot thickens, into an increasingly sinister soup.

      April 22, 2020 at 3:42 pm
    • Athanasius


      I’ve signed as well, there’s something very sinister going on with this Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation that needs urgent investigation. By the way, do you know that Melinda Gates is yet another apostate Catholic, all in favour of a woman’s right to choose (abortion). As RCA Victor says, the plot thickens!

      April 22, 2020 at 3:59 pm
    • Therese


      April 23, 2020 at 2:36 pm
  • Liam Jenkinson

    From Liam Jenkinson,
    Please see the following :
    More Catholicism from a Protestant then we currently get from the majority of Catholics from the Pope down!
    Love and Prayers
    Liam Jenkinson

    April 22, 2020 at 2:58 pm
  • RCAVictor

    On the subject of the errors of Russia, and Communism changing its spots, today happens to be the 50th “Earth Day,” which brings the Communists and their useful idiots out in force. For example, look on Breitbart for an article about Greta Thunberg’s latest pronouncement, that the Corona virus “crisis” and the “climate crisis” should be tackled together.

    But just for a little comic relief, here is a partial list of gloom-and-doom predictions that were published on the original “Earth Day” in 1970:

    “Civilization will end within 15 or 30 years (1985-2000) unless immediate action is taken against problems facing mankind.” — Harvard biologist George Wald

    “Man must stop pollution and conserve his resources, not merely to enhance existence but to save the race from intolerable deterioration and possible extinction.” — New York Times editorial

    “Population will inevitably and completely outstrip whatever small increases in food supplies we make. The death rate will increase until at least 100-200 million people per year will be starving to death during the next ten years.” — Stanford University biologist Paul Ehrlich

    “Most of the people who are going to die in the greatest cataclysm in the history of man have already been born… [By 1975] some experts feel that food shortages will have escalated the present level of world hunger and starvation into famines of unbelievable proportions. Other experts, more optimistic, think the ultimate food-population collision will not occur until the decade of the 1980s.” — Paul Ehrlich

    “Demographers agree almost unanimously on the following grim timetable: by 1975 widespread famines will begin in India; these will spread by 1990 to include all of India, Pakistan, China and the Near East, Africa. By the year 2000, or conceivably sooner, South and Central America will exist under famine conditions…. By the year 2000, thirty years from now, the entire world, with the exception of Western Europe, North America, and Australia, will be in famine.” — North Texas State University professor Peter Gunter

    “In a decade (by 1980), urban dwellers will have to wear gas masks to survive air pollution… by 1985 air pollution will have reduced the amount of sunlight reaching earth by one half.” — Life magazine

    “By the year 2000, if present trends continue, we will be using up crude oil at such a rate… that there won’t be any more crude oil. You’ll drive up to the pump and say, ‘Fill ‘er up, buddy,’ and he’ll say, ‘I am very sorry, there isn’t any.’” — Ecologist Kenneth Watt

    “The world has been chilling sharply for about twenty years. If present trends continue, the world will be about four degrees colder for the global mean temperature in 1990, but eleven degrees colder in the year 2000. This is about twice what it would take to put us into an ice age.” — Kenneth Watt

    April 22, 2020 at 4:07 pm
  • RCAVictor

    A new interview with Abp. Vigano on the present crisis, though with one odd statement:

    …I am pleased to give this interview for the faithful of Portugal, which the Blessed Virgin has promised to preserve in the Faith even in these times of great trial.

    I don’t think His Excellency is one of those who has read the Third Secret, but Our Lady promised no such thing to Portugal, since we don’t know how this sentence ends:

    “In Portugal, the dogma of the faith will always be preserved, etc.”

    Nevertheless, a powerful interview:

    April 22, 2020 at 5:13 pm
  • catholicconvert1

    I contacted a local priest recently to arrange a confession, and he said it wasn’t possible due to the lockdown. My confession, like everyone else’s, needs to be heard in case of a sudden and unprovided for death. We needn’t come into close contact, due to us being in the box and separated by the grille. This is nothing more than Satan and his stooges on earth wandering around for the ruin of souls. I wouldn’t want to stand in the hierarchy’s shoes on the day of judgement.

    He told me just to make an act of contrition and come to confession as soon as the lockdown is lifted.

    April 22, 2020 at 7:26 pm
    • editor


      That is a disgrace. Any priest who refused to hear my confession, would never hear the sound of my voice again, inside or outside the confessional.

      I suggest you not worry, and try to make a perfect act of contrition – which just means getting yourself in the frame of mind to express sorrow for your sins because you love God and know that they offend Him, and not just because you’re afraid of Hell.

      Do a little spiritual reading about Our Lord’s Passion and Death – all to give us the possibility of Heaven – and/or listen to one of the touching hymns to the Sacred Heart or Lent hymn, such as Lord of Mercy and Compassion, and then make your perfect act of contribution, where you express your sorrow for sins because you love God and are deeply sorry for offending Him.

      As you say, who would want to stand in the shoes of these priests and bishops at their judgment. Nobody can hide behind obedience on this – nobody is obliged to obey a bishop who commands priests to refuse the Sacraments. What a scandal that so many are ready to do so.

      April 22, 2020 at 9:44 pm
      • catholicconvert1

        That’s all I can do. I have written myself a spiritual timetable to structure my day, and I will make an act of Contrition after confessing my sins directly to God. One thing is a fact, I won’t be darkening my parish church again. I will attend the SSPX in Manchester, even if I have to go without food. It is a 40 minute train ride away, and I don’t know everything about the modernist crisis, Archbishop Lefebvre or the SSPX, but I know enough.

        April 23, 2020 at 3:54 pm
      • catholicconvert1

        I read a report about an SSPX priest in Asia who lived in one country but had to fly into the country in question to celebrate Sunday Mass, usually returning to the neighbouring country on the Sunday evening or Monday. However, he had just returned home and as soon as he heard the country he had returned from was going into lockdown, he went back on the next flight. He says Mass, and even has a small number who attend the chapel. They even sleep there. An elderly lady died, and the family asked priest after priest to say a requiem Mass, but were refused using the lockdown to justify their refusal. They are refusing to say private masses. Anyway, as a ‘last resort’, they asked the SSPX priest, who obliged. The Novus Ordo hierarchy is a disgrace.

        April 23, 2020 at 4:00 pm
      • RCAVictor


        I posted that article higher up in this thread, but here it is again:

        April 23, 2020 at 11:13 pm
      • westminsterfly

        Read this booklet on Perfect Contrition – especially helpful in these times of no confession:-

        April 26, 2020 at 8:22 am
      • westminsterfly

        Apologies if this has been posted before:-
        If anyone tells you the Secret has been released, quote this passage:- “Our Lady asked [the secret] to be revealed in 1960, but John XXIII published, on February 8 of that year, a statement in which he stated that […] ‘he does not want to assume the responsibility of guaranteeing the truth of the words that the three little shepherds say that the Virgin Mary addressed to them.’” Note that – WORDS – not a ‘vision’. Although I believe the vision released in 2000 to be genuine, there are WORDS explaining the vision that still need to come out.

        April 26, 2020 at 8:28 am
      • Fidelis

        Westminster Fly,

        That’s a very important link, so thank you for it. It says in a few words from a main player – Pope John XXIII – that the Vatican has definitely not released the full text of the Third Secret.

        That’s really important. I will use that next time I’m told that the Vatican released the Third Secret in 2000. They didn’t, only part of it and the text explaining it is crucial.

        Thanks again.

        April 26, 2020 at 11:35 am
    • Elizabeth

      That is just shocking. Surely it would not be beyond the wit of your priest to arrange confession with adequate social distancing. Presbytery garden? Back of the church? Quiet area of a local park? It will be hard to hold priests who refuse the sacraments in any esteem henceforth. Where is their faith? As editor said, you will be fine but I fear for the soul of the priest. Sad sad times.

      April 23, 2020 at 12:33 pm
  • editor

    Unbelievably, the BBC is reporting that the social restrictions are to remain in place for the rest of the year!

    They mean, obviously, for everyone else. I’m exempt. In other words, do they think we’re all stupid?

    And do they think we’ll all pay a fine for doing what any person living in a free society has always done – er… visit a friend, a relative, go out when they choose?

    At the risk of some busy-body reporting me to the “authorities” allow me to say quite clearly that absolutely not all of us will comply… Definitely not.

    Added in a little time later…

    We are giving serous thought as to how to protest this, if it comes to pass. Writing to MPs and MSPs is a waste of good paper and time. But protest we must – as well as pray very hard.

    April 22, 2020 at 9:39 pm
  • RCAVictor

    I hope I’m not adding to confusion with my ignorance, but I need some clarification with regard to the renewed debate among Prognosticum, Editor and Athanasius regarding the nature of Fatima as to “revelation.”

    In labeling Fatima as a “public revelation,” it seems to me that there is a lack of precision in the use of the term revelation. My understanding is that some traditionalists refer to Fatima as a public revelation because of the Miracle of the Sun, witnessed in a very public way by 70,000 people. However, there was no revelation – i.e. no “direct speech of God to man” (as the Encyclopedia puts it) during said Miracle. There was just the Miracle, no?

    If that is correct, and since the rest of the Fatima apparitions were private, wouldn’t it be more accurate to refer to Fatima not as a public revelation, but as a series of private revelations with a miraculous public confirmation?

    April 23, 2020 at 3:50 pm
    • editor

      RCA Victor,

      The expression which Father Gruner RIP used and explained very clearly, was “public prophetic revelation” – and the term applied to the Fatima miracle I take to mean that the miracle was confirmatory in nature; there can be no new revelation, as we know, but miracles do happen which confirm revelation (e.g. Eucharistic miracles are not teaching anything new, but confirming what we already know to be true about the Real Presence.)

      In the case of Fatima, the children said that the people were asking for a miracle to prove the truth of what they (the seers) were telling them, and so Our Lady granted that request. Father Gruner would quote St Paul’s exhortation not to neglect the prophets – and he meant the contemporary (for want of a better word) prophets. God continues to speak to us through His messengers, and the Fatima seers fall into that category, no doubt about it.

      Thus, by (for the first time ever in the history of the world) announcing a precise date, time and location for a public miracle, Our Lady confirmed that the children were telling the truth and that the message from God, revealed to them about future events, should be believed.

      That’s what I’ve always understood by the term. For me, the fact that even the Communist press and mayor are quoted as witnesses in newspaper reports at the time, is sufficient to convince me that the miracle took place. It certainly can’t be a private revelation if 70,000 were “in the know” in such a spectacular fashion. And, of course, the message is not a typical private revelation of a particular devotion or whatever – this was a message for the entire world. Nothing private about it, and, as I say, the description given by Fr Gruner seems perfect to my way of thinking – public, prophetic revelation (publicly revealing the truth of the Fatima Message, which was – as we are finding out to our grave concern – about as prophetic as it gets.)

      Hope this helps, RCA Victor. If not, be aware of my personal motto which is… if at first you don’t succeed… forget it ! 😀

      April 23, 2020 at 8:37 pm
      • RCAVictor


        Thank you for that explanation, and I hope you have a coat of arms to go with your personal motto…

        April 23, 2020 at 10:20 pm
      • editor

        RCA Victor,

        That’s not saying much – “thank you for that explanation”… Did it help? Did it make sense? Tread carefully…

        April 23, 2020 at 10:36 pm
      • RCAVictor


        I was still thinking…and I must be getting dense in my old age (though our bones are supposed to get lighter with age), but I think the use of the word “revelation” to describe a public event that was not itself a revelation, but a confirmation of a private one, is misleading.

        But what do I know? I’m no Father Gruner (RIP), nor do I play one on TV. Honestly, I don’t think it’s worth the loss of mass quantities of zeroes on my paycheck…

        April 23, 2020 at 10:49 pm
      • editor

        RCA Victor,

        If you agree that Fatima cannot be classed as a “private” revelation, then it really doesn’t matter how you label it.

        I thought the “Eucharistic miracle” analogy was a stroke of genius, but, then, I would 😀

        I thought that because, although I fully believe the dogmatic teaching of the Church on the Eucharist/Real Presence, on hearing about specific Eucharistic miracles, my own reaction is always astonishment, amazement etc. – the teaching is, so to speak, revealed to me, anew.

        I don’t think that the word “revelation” can only be used to describe NEW teachings. I mean, don’t you think my every comment on this blog is a revelation?

        Do I look stupid enough to expect an answer to that rhetorical question? 😀

        April 23, 2020 at 11:26 pm
  • francescomarta

    I feel that Catholic Truth Scotland will find this YOUTUBE clip very interesting and why the editors suggestion to protest is a must. The hidden powers pushing an agenda at this time do not like ‘a people’s revolt,’ they expect us to act like sheep!

    April 23, 2020 at 7:02 pm
    • editor


      I watched that film and it is very interesting. The young man doing the presentation made it rather difficult to concentrate, though – his exuberance and breaking off from the text he was reading to us in order to “explain” it to us, was rather distracting. The material is so utterly clear and so obviously evil, that it really didn’t need much interpretation. He was anxious, however, that we all got the message, God love him. Anyway, it’s sobering, though because, filmed in 2014, it could have been filmed yesterday – what he reveals as having been planned back then, is exactly what is happening right now.

      The one thing that I don’t think he got right – and this may be a difference of national characteristics (we have seen protests already in the USA) is that, in my experience, there IS no appetite to protest here. The people in the UK – certainly in Scotland are like putty in the hands of the politicians and “experts”. I went into a local shop this afternoon and I saw more people there wearing face masks that you’d see in any surgical theatre in any hospital in the land. I never know whether to laugh or scream at this. So, I keep a straight face – it’s not the loveliest face in the world but I want to keep it intact for a bit longer 😀

      Someone put one of these “do you need help from our Coronavirus support group” leaflets though my door today, so I rang the number with the intention of asking for their help, not for food boxes or whatever else they were offering, but help in finding the number of the nearest protest group. Nobody answered the phone, so there’s one very clued-in Guardian Angel at work for that particular volunteer 😀

      Knowing how compliant everyone is being, how ridiculously trusting of the “experts”, it’s difficult to see how we could protest in any meaningful way.

      I won’t be complying with any of the “new normal” requirements, though, and I won’t be paying any fines, so I may end up in prison which won’t be too bad because all the thieves and murderers have been sent home for the duration.

      Make it up, you could not!

      April 23, 2020 at 8:53 pm
      • RCAVictor


        Judging from your Brexit votes, I’d guess that the only way the British are comfortable with protests (American-style) is through the ballot box. You know, stiff upper lip and all that.

        BTW, if all British citizens must now wear face masks, their upper lips will be concealed, so they can drop their dignified apathy and try something different.

        That video certainly reveals the true intent of our ruling elites. I wonder if Donald Trump really knew what he was getting into when he pledged to “drain the swamp.” The swamp, Mr. President, contains a lot more than corrupt politicians and bureaucrats. It is a quicksand pit of pedophiles and Satanists.

        April 23, 2020 at 10:26 pm
      • editor

        RCA Victor,

        I saw a clip of Trump with his female doctor person, Deborah something – she works for the WHO, I believe. Anyway, she posted a graph showing long lines representing the virus in various countries with China almost a dot at the foot of the graph. President Trump said “Do you believe those figures?” And he said it more than once.

        She did her best to race on, but I would say he’s well and truly on to them. I just wish he would sack her (And Fauci, whom he has also challenged openly at the briefings – e.g. when Fauci said, what they are saying here, that things would never be the same/would not return to normal blah blah – Trump jumped in and assured everyone that things WOULD improve, that the country would be “open” again asap).

        I think he’s the only world leader with anything more than a piece of cloth between his ears. That’s why they hate him so much.

        April 23, 2020 at 10:34 pm
      • RCAVictor


        Deborah Birx and Dr. Fauci-Stein are both members of the Bill Gates/NWO circle of “universal vaccination” and “population control” cabal. I agree that they need to be shown the door…or better yet:

        April 23, 2020 at 10:45 pm
      • catholicconvert1


        I’d rethink that last sentence given his comments today about disinfectant. The dangerous thing is, whilst he is right about many things, people will listen to him on this. I can well imagine the news reports: ‘dozens of Americans in hospital after drinking harpic’.

        April 24, 2020 at 1:13 pm
      • editor


        I didn’t hear Trump saying that live, about disinfectant, although that is being reported all over the news. I only heard something about “light and heat”. I believe there was a clip played but I am so used to hearing Trump being taken out of context that I’m waiting to hear his live briefing later tonight (our time) before I will fully believe it.

        However, whatever, Donald Trump has admitted that he sometimes gets things wrong, says the wrong thing. This, of course – if absolutely accurate – is a tremendously BIG thing to get wrong and he needs to admit that without delay.

        He is less than perfect, no question about it. But he knows that and is still, without question, the best world leader around at the moment. He needs to stop “thinking out loud” which is what I think he tends to do. He knows he is among enemies at those press briefings but because he appears not to be vindictive, not someone who holds grudges and watches his back around enemies all the time, it seems to me that he lets his guard down too often, and says things which – if he took time to think about the matter and/or checked with the medics – he wouldn’t say. Especially around the shameless press hacks and mocking media.

        Speaking of mocking media… I listened to the Radio Scotland news at lunchtime, in my car, and I have to say that, for all his faults, and despite the stupidity of saying something so ridiculous, I had a strong feeling that Trump is a great deal closer to the mind of God – a great deal more of a human being – than the arrogant, superior-sounding reporters or whatever their daft job description/titles are, who were openly mocking him. Nasty people. Unthinking people, because, speaking about stupidity…

        I couldn’t help wondering why they didn’t turn their attention to our First Minister who stood in front of the new (temporary) hospital in Glasgow – fully equipped – with 1,000 beds, telling the TV camera that she “hopes we won’t need to use them.” Er? I was expecting to see a line of ambulances outside, waiting to deliver their patients. What a piece of nonsense.

        Next day my nephew’s “urgent” (months ago, according to the Consultant) back operation was cancelled, having already been postponed.

        And people are having their cancer treatment cancelled – the hospitals have all but closed to everything except this virus, so why not put all these Coronavirus patients together in the “new” temporary hospital and leave the rest of the hospitals to work as usual?

        Why? Because it doesn’t play into the blether that the world must, literally, come to a standstill because of this “new” virus.

        Hence, it’s easier just to bring the NHS to a standstill, blaming this pandemic for cancelling operations, including an urgent operation for a teenager who may just end up being severely disabled as a result. Take note though, that the same operation could be carried out in two or three weeks time – potentially by an NHS Consultant – at a Glasgow private hospital if the parents could just find upward of £18,000. They’re still checking under the bed, because they’ve been told that they cannot be given a timescale for re-arranging the operation as planned in the NHS hospital. Disgraceful.

        If Donald Trump has his faults, even serious faults, such as making a dangerous suggestion (quickly corrected by the experts) then where does that leave our politicians here, and their “expert” advisers?

        Do I look stupid enough to want an answer to that rhetorical question?

        April 24, 2020 at 6:34 pm
      • Athanasius


        That “stiff upper lip” the British were renowned for is now a trembling lip. Our country has been super soft for a long time. The only aggressive demonstrators these days are the left wing liberals.

        April 23, 2020 at 10:41 pm
      • RCAVictor


        Hopefully if people are pushed hard enough they will wake up. And…do more penance. I also have to wonder whether England has balanced the Divine Ledger for slaughtering Catholics during the so-called reformation.

        April 23, 2020 at 10:52 pm

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