If I hear “stay safe” one more time, I’ll…

If I hear “stay safe” one more time, I’ll…

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I know that people mean well, but every time someone in a supermarket, or anywhere else, tells me to “stay safe” I find myself “patience challenged”. 

I’ve used a number of mildly sarcastic responses to this nonsense, to the effect of wondering aloud why anyone would think I’m not safe… But, generally speaking, my witticisms tend to pass over the heads of the friendly check-out assistants and security staff.

Thus, I thoroughly enjoyed the Prager-U Fireside Chat in the video above.  I think it’s brilliant, And I look forward to hearing your thoughts about it.  Is telling us all to “stay safe” just another piece of linguistic programming, to keep the “danger” of “the virus” at the front of our minds?  It’s unnerving to see the looks I get from my well-meaning friendly supermarket staff, because when they tell me to “stay safe” it’s pretty clear that they really don’t expect to see me again 😀

And now we find – via the video clip below – that the  hierarchy of the Catholic Church in Scotland has added its own piece of linguistic programming.  In addition to “stay safe”, the Bishops want us to “pray safe”.  Crackers. 

Share your thoughts on the topic – which of the men in the two videos talks sense, in your view.  Clue:  it’s not the Catholic deacon!

 

Comments (63)

  • Charles Mc Cusker

    God does not wear a face covering when He speaks to me; nor does He keep a 2meter distance from me in prayer so I am not going to be wearing a face covering in church/oratory/chapel
    Sadly I felt very embarrassed by the video of the Deacon speaking down to those who may choose to go into church, very patronising.
    Believe it or not the laity,ie ordinary people, who wish to go.into a church and pray can do so without the need to be treated like imbeciles. Sadly the video does the Catholic church in Scotland no favours.
    By the way, please tell me when the act of Prayer/Adoration became an unsafe practise!!!??? for those who do practise such acts.
    Sorry Diocese of Motherwell, not impressed.

    June 18, 2020 at 2:31 am
    • editor

      Charles,

      I agree, totally.

      The Deacon, however, makes clear that these rules are being rolled out across Scotland, not just in the Diocese of Motherwell.

      The Bishop of Motherwell has failed to keep the promise of a full investigation into the claims made in Fr Despard’s book about the extent of homosexually active clergy within the diocese, with a view to providing a remedy for that immorality if the allegations proved to be substantially true. Yet, he sets out ridiculous rules to deal with a virus that is a great deal less deadly to the body than the sins of impurity and scandal are to the soul. This speaks volumes about the priorities and (lack of) divine and Catholic Faith in the Church in Scotland today.

      As if we didn’t know that already, sadly.

      June 18, 2020 at 9:41 am
    • Josephine

      Charles McCusker,

      I agree – we’re not imbeciles, we know how to be sensible if there is a need to be careful. We don’t need to be patronised or escorted. This virus has been exaggerated out of all proportion. The good news is that I think there are signs that more people are waking up to the fact.

      June 18, 2020 at 1:23 pm
  • Miles Immaculatae

    I visited a Glasgow hospital this week for my outpatient clinic. Hospitals are the most protected environments in the central and devolved governments’ coronavirus policies. Yet the covid protocol in the hospital was less stringent than what is proposed for Scottish Catholic churches. I was not required to wear a mask in the hospital, and my consultant wasn’t even wearing one. And I wasn’t marshalled either: I just walked into the hospital and found my own way to the clinic reception.

    Why are Catholic Church so on-board with this? I already knew that Novus Ordo clergy were paranoid and wrapped up in cotton wool (which is somewhat understandable since the clerical pederasty scandals have made priests an easy target for militant anti-Catholics). But this new guidance from the bishops’ conference is histrionic; the stuff of satire. I would usually find this kind of thing amusing, but I am actually quite perturbed.

    June 18, 2020 at 8:22 am
    • editor

      Miles Immaculatae,

      I, too, had occasion to visit a hospital recently and it was noticeable that, while some staff wore masks, the majority of people I saw wearing masks were other visitors or outpatients. I did have to wear one when seeing the doctor – and he was wearing one – but in conversation it became clear to me (without him saying so explicitly) that he wasn’t crazy about any of this, either. Outside of the consulting room I saw plenty of staff who were not wearing masks.

      As for the hand sanitizer, people who have sensitive skin and who cannot use, for example, perfumed soap, are unable to use the sanitizer. I know of two such cases where the people involved have had to refuse the sanitizer. Apparently, panic did not break out but consternation was evident. Sheer madness.

      There are so many contradictions in the rules, so much silliness that I think Dennis Prager is 200% correct in his advice not to make “staying safe” the focus of our lives. Interesting that he attended a Shabbat meal with friends, flouting the rules, in order to practise his Jewish religion.

      What I would like to know when this kidology crisis is over, is this: how many Catholics died from Covid-19 – from (i.e. the direct cause of death) not with (i.e. in hospital due to some other illness and then infected).

      Personally, I don’t know a single person who has become infected with this virus, let alone anyone who has died as a result of it, one way or another.

      So, I repeat, well said Dennis Prager !

      June 18, 2020 at 9:30 am
      • Patrick Healy

        Dear Editor,
        Speaking of bank robbers masks, one of most surreal experiences I had recently was a rather large female scantily dressed on a top of the range bicycle.
        She went panting up a fairly steep hill – and yes she was wearing a mask.
        On a range of 1 to 10 (sad or stupid is 10), how would you rate that?

        June 18, 2020 at 2:06 pm
      • editor

        Patrick,

        10.

        June 18, 2020 at 7:08 pm
    • Josephine

      Miles Immaculatae,

      It’s not just in Glasgow hospitals that you see people being more relaxed about face masks – I was in a hospital in another city recently and found the same. My guess is that the medical people know in their hearts that this whole thing is not as it was forecast. I suppose they can see the empty hospital beds first hand and know fine well that it’s not going to finish us all off, after all, LOL!

      That’s not to minimise the suffering of those who did get the virus and those who have died – my sympathy is sincerely with them. But it’s not a danger to the majority – in fact, I remember the government saying that back at the beginning. It’s just that the stay safe message has got out of control. Mr Prager has it well in proportion – I love his fork story!

      June 18, 2020 at 1:28 pm
  • Patrick Healy

    I am (almost) speechless.

    Just a thought – was that water the deacon blessed himself with on the way in, Holy Water?

    June 18, 2020 at 8:46 am
    • editor

      Patrick,

      I presume that was holy water – how can you “pray safe” unless you, at the very least, use holy water? 😀

      Holy sanitizer doesn’t sound quite right, does it? 😀

      June 18, 2020 at 9:42 am
      • RCAVictor

        Editor,

        Ironically, Novus Ordo holy water isn’t even holy water – it is not exorcised, and there is no blessed salt in it either. It’s best characterized as “holy intentions water.”

        June 18, 2020 at 7:00 pm
      • editor

        RCA Victor,

        This has just registered with me – are you sure about this? How can we be sure – have you seen the rite? I haven’t. I tend to assume certain things. I’ll never learn.

        June 24, 2020 at 12:21 pm
      • RCAVictor

        Editor,

        Father Z had an article about this years ago, which I don’t see right off the bat, but here’s something even better:

        https://www.ewtn.com/catholicism/library/exorcism-of-salt-and-water-4616

        June 24, 2020 at 3:48 pm
      • editor

        RCA Victor,

        Just skimmed that just now but I’ll need to read it properly. From my skim, I’d say we’re safe enough (so to speak!) using the holy water fonts in most churches – once the sanitizers have gone, of course – say, around 2045 !

        June 24, 2020 at 10:44 pm
      • RCAVictor

        Editor,

        Not to beat a dead horse, but did you happen to notice this whilst skimming?

        “”Where the circumstances of the place and the custom of the people suggest that the mixing of salt be preserved in the blessing of water [editorial comment: HUH??? You mean in Novus Ordo world, it’s up to the people?], the priest may bless salt saying:

        “We humbly ask you, almighty God; be pleased in your faithful love to bless + this salt you have created, for it was you who commanded the prophet Elisha to cast salt into water, that impure water might be purified. Grant, O Lord, we pray, that, wherever this mixture of salt and water is sprinkled, every attack of the enemy may be repulsed and your Holy Spirit may be present to keep us safe at all times. Through Christ our Lord.

        “Then he pours the salt into the water without saying anything.”

        This new text blesses the salt but does not contain the explicit exorcism found in the extraordinary form.”

        In short, no exorcee – no holee?

        June 25, 2020 at 2:54 pm
      • Athanasius

        RCAVictor

        Or, to put it another way, more holey than godly!

        June 25, 2020 at 8:20 pm
  • editor

    For your interest,

    I went into YouTube to copy the link to the “Stay safe, pray safe” video and noted that the comment I had left with the link to this blog, has been removed. That’s fear. Fear of the faithful who are unaware of the truth about this “health crisis” finding out, and at the same time, uncovering the truth about the crisis of (lack of) faith and (lack of) morality in their own diocese and in the wider Church.

    So much for the group (name escapes me at the moment) who make these videos. The fact is, they’re part of the “establishment”, complicit in covering up the truth about both the “Covid crisis” and the now 50+ years of crisis in the Church. Shame on them.

    June 18, 2020 at 10:41 am
    • saraht1973

      I absolutely agree with you and glad you’ve exposed this.

      June 18, 2020 at 11:08 am
      • editor

        Thank YOU Sarah, for the alert. I might have missed that video.

        June 18, 2020 at 11:59 am
    • RCAVictor

      Editor,

      I looked up the group who put out the video: “Sancta Familia Media.” Their motto is “Covering the Faith from all Angles” – whatever that means.

      Perhaps they should come up with a new motto, considering their surrender to the scam-demic: “Covering the Face from All Angles.”

      June 18, 2020 at 7:05 pm
      • editor

        RCA Victor,

        Love it!

        June 18, 2020 at 7:21 pm
      • Laura

        RCA Victor,

        There’s no group in Scotland (apart from Catholic Truth) which is covering the faith from any angle, LOL!

        I don’t think many people will have heard of Sancta Familia Media – they’re news to me, for sure.

        If they’re covering the faith for the dioceses, and it looks like it, judging by the fact that they’ve been asked to make that video, then they’re not going to be saying anything about the faith that is off message. They will only be allowed to say what the bishops want them to say.

        June 18, 2020 at 10:46 pm
      • Miles Immaculatae

        I think the enterprise is run by two young men. I feel sorry for them. They have been betrayed by their elders, and robbed of the True Faith. They obviously have a talent for social media and making videos, and their talent is wasted on the Novus Ordo Church. There is much wasted talent and missed opportunities in the Catholic Church, a Church which seems to despise young people and do everything it can to make them leave. It is providential that I didn’t grow up Catholic, because if I had, I would likely have lapsed. And who could blame me if I had?

        June 18, 2020 at 10:48 pm
      • RCAVictor

        Miles Immaculatae,

        I didn’t grow up Catholic either, and I’m guessing that if I had not been removed from the Church when young, I would now be either lapsed, or a typical Novus Ordo Catholic – i.e. lapsed from the supernatural and wholly embracing the profane revolution.

        June 18, 2020 at 11:31 pm
  • Josephine

    I just loved the Prager-u video. The speaker hit the nail on the had – “stay safe means never!”

    We’d never do anything if we only thought about what was safe – he makes that point really well.

    But even now it’s a ridiculous way to have to live, with people body-swerving to avoid coming close on the street etc. I have gone from being irritated by these people to feeling sorry for them. It must be terrible to be living in such fear all the time.

    The Church video isn’t worth wasting words over, IMHO. I’ll not be visiting any church that carries on like that.

    June 18, 2020 at 1:21 pm
  • Athanasius

    I cannot get away with how idiotic that Deacon looks entering the House of God with a face mask and cleansing his hands as though it were an unclean House he was entering. For me, this is proof positive that true supernatural faith is no longer present in these Modernist clergy. The doubtless mean well, most of them anyway, but the faith is lost.

    The other video, the Jewish man who is really interesting to listen to, makes the point so well about the fact that we are not in this life to “stay safe”, we are in it to live and serve God. Again, it is confirmation that the Catholic clergy with their childish masks, sanitisers and fears, don’t really trust in God any more, they are completely of the world and it is shocking to witness.

    June 18, 2020 at 1:42 pm
  • Athanasius

    I forgot to say that this is utterly humiliating for the Catholic Church, the mother of wisdom, to see these disgracefull clergy behaving like worldlings. When that Deacon entered the church in his video, the Blessed Sacrament was there before him in the tabernacle. So here is the Creator and Saviour of the world, God Himself, really and truly present, and he is approached by this man consumed with fear for health and safety. What must Our Lord think of these worldly men, so fearful for the wellbeing of the body and yet so negligent in the things that pertain to eternal life?

    They are so fearful in fact that they cannot even see the virus propaganda for what it is, a politicised lie to suppress human freedom and make the world terrified to breathe. That’s what happens when supernatural faith in God diminishes to the point of non-existence.

    As an aside, I quite often watch WWII documentaries and never fail to appreciate what these soldiers went through to protect our freedom. Every day they went through that terrible war wondering if the next bullet had their name on it, yet they braved the fear and the extreme hardship for freedom’ sake. The deaths and casualties suffered on all sides was horrendous, truly apocalyptic, yet they faced that with incredible bravery.

    Compare that example to these clerical whimps who have neither faith nor bravery, assisiting Totalitarian Socialist governments to suppress the very freedoms these men fought and died to preserve. This is the level of the betrayal of both God and a free society. It really disgusts me.

    June 18, 2020 at 2:01 pm
  • Athanasius

    A few typos in both comments above due to a failing keyboard. That’s my excuse anyway!

    June 18, 2020 at 2:03 pm
  • RCAVictor

    I enjoyed Dennis Prager’s down-home, almost avuncular style, although it tended to take the urgency out of his message. As did the sleeping dog by his side (I began to wonder whether that was a live dog or a stuffed animal! Did it ever move?) His message boils down to this:

    “Safety” (and the fear of lack of safety) is being used to destroy our civil liberties and usher in the “brave new world” of global tyranny.

    There’s a famous Benjamin Franklin quote about this: ““Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.”

    June 18, 2020 at 3:21 pm
    • Athanasius

      RCAVictor

      How applicable is that quote of Benjamin Franklin today? It’s quite prophetic and utterly true.

      June 18, 2020 at 3:39 pm
    • editor

      RCA Victor,

      I think Dennis Prager’s homely style is fantastic and actually adds to the strength of what he says. It comes across as obvious common sense thinking. He’s my very favourite fireside armchair chatter!

      About that Benjamin Franklin quote – I had put it in the newsletter a couple of weeks ago, and never having used it before, I Googled to check it out. Only to find that everybody and his granny was challenging its authenticity. Seems he didn’t say any such thing. Unfortunately, I didn’t keep the links (just scrubbed the quote and moved on with my life) but I’m sure a quick Google will turn up the same variations and alternative sources as did my original foray into the world of said Franklin.

      But think nothing of it, we all get things wrong sometimes. Even me…

      https://i.pinimg.com/originals/4e/99/8c/4e998c49ce4a4f6c80789f79e75244d2.jpg

      June 18, 2020 at 5:51 pm
      • RCAVictor

        Editor,

        I also initially found a website which appeared to challenge the authenticity of the quote, but it turned out to be a website which exposed a leftist professor’s attempt to de-fang the quote by placing it in “context.”

        You know, sort of like trying to judge Vatican II by a “hermeneutic of continuity”… (speaking of which, have you seen Abp. Vigano’s latest? He now wants to trash the whole Council!)

        Having just done another search, I see there are multiple leftist websites who are attempting the same thing, notably NPR (National Public Radio), the leftist, government-funded outlet. From that I conclude that it is not only a true quote, but that it must be a dangerous thought to the Communist thought-police!

        However, I haven’t come across any site that claims it is a false quote. Nor any websites claiming to be “fact-checkers” that issue that claim (that’s the latest tactic by the Communists: set up false fact-checker websites to attempt to debunk the truth. It is being used against a new book by a Dr. Judy Mikovits who exposed the corruption of Anthony “all my computer models are wrong” Fauci).

        I understand your admiration for Dennis Prager’s style, and upon due reflection…I understand your admiration for Dennis Prager’s style…

        🙂

        June 18, 2020 at 6:45 pm
      • editor

        RCA Victor,

        That is very interesting indeed. I am at a disadvantage when doing such checks because unless there is a banner headline saying THIS IS A COMMUNIST SITE or similar, I don’t always realise that I’m in a danger zone. And when I read the same thing over and over, that reinforces my uneducated response.

        I’m glad to know that – I’ll add the quote to my “trustworthy” list now.

        And did I ever tell you that I admire Dennis Prager’s style? 😀

        For your interest, I was introduced to him by my teenage Great-Nephews who love his fireside chats… They say they hope he’ll become a Catholic, that he speaks very positively about the Church, seems to understand that there is a crisis etc. so I must check out some more of his videos.

        I did say, didn’t I, that I admire Dennis Prager’s homely style?

        I even like Otto and I’m not a fan of dogs ordinarily; he’s so well behaved, though, and since I’m not half as interesting as Dennis, Thus, I feel confident that he’d be constantly asleep in my humble home 😀

        Did I mention that I like Otto?

        June 18, 2020 at 7:02 pm
      • RCAVictor

        Editor,

        Funny you should mention conversion: I found myself hoping for the same. I do love his common sense, truth delivered without a heated argument (which is a trap I always fall into).

        As for Otto, I thought he was a good prop, though I couldn’t really tell if he was actually alive!

        I think Dennis should smoke a pipe, to add to the fireside atmosphere.

        June 18, 2020 at 7:09 pm
      • editor

        RCA Victor,

        I have a feeling Dennis actually does smoke a pipe although I’d need to check that with my two nephews…

        Otto is alive, all right. I think he’s just one of those intelligent animals who knows how to keep the best seat at the fireside when the house is full of strangers… Animals can be very intelligent, you know…

        https://i.pinimg.com/736x/2a/1c/2c/2a1c2c3590f7aded9f4a64ad87463994–insurance-humor-life-insurance.jpg

        June 18, 2020 at 7:17 pm
  • RCAVictor

    The “face covering” (what happened to “face mask” – too politically incorrect?) worn by this deacon is very effeminate. How appropriate for the Conciliar Church. And the background music is simpering and meaningless, befitting the message of total surrender to the government. Perhaps the music is supposed to soothe you as you relinquish all your rights and common sense?

    June 18, 2020 at 3:55 pm
    • Athanasius

      RCAVictor

      It wouldn’t suprise me in the least to discover that they were using subliminal music! As for the face mask, my opinion is that all face masks look effeminate on men. That’s quite apart from the fact that they look ridiculous. I always want to laugh when I see people wearing them. The elderly and people with compromsied immunity I can understand, but the rest are just low IQ.

      June 18, 2020 at 4:48 pm
  • editor

    Well, today the Scottish Government has made wearing masks on public transport mandatory.

    I caught a short report on the local TV news where they interviewed a few people in George Square, (Glasgow) about it. One woman said she’d sooner walk than wear a mask. At last! A rebel!

    The very next items was about rioting in George Square – I think it happened last night, not sure. Something to do with racism (of course)… Although, I was only half paying attention. The other half was trying to steel myself to cut the grass. I’ve now done that.

    As a result, I am very confident that I will die soon and they won’t be putting Covid-19 on my death certificate. They’ll be putting “Gardening”… Excuse the pun but I’m really not cut out for that sort of hard labour… Jeremy Corbyn / Keir Starmer eat your hearts out!

    I only strimmed the edges and cut the grass, but it’s just not me… .

    I now appeal to Bill Gates to find a cure – urgently!

    Athanasius, would you organise a petition?

    June 18, 2020 at 5:39 pm
    • Athanasius

      Editor

      Where’s “Help the Aged” when you need them, eh?

      I tried to cut my grass a couple of days ago and was hampered by a nest of bees under my garden hut, right at the door I need to open to get the equipment out. I don’t believe in killing bees since they do a great good so I have just purchased Cinnamon and Garlic powders to put down around the entrance to the nest, the smell of which is said to eventually convince the bees that they need to relocate. We’ll see how that plan works out! In the meantime, I have to try my hardest to keep a curious cat from venturing over to where the bees are coming and going. I’ve seen her eyeing up the activity and I’m sure her nose is going to get the better of her, so a bit of a problem there.

      And you think you’ve got trouble!!

      The mandatory face masks on public transport I heard about today on the news. I certainly won’t be obeying that government idiocy given the official statistics that clearly show that the threat this pandemic is said to pose to human life has been fabricated. This is classic Marxist tactics and totalitarianism at its best. Scotland deserves all it gets for voting in a party of subversives.

      June 18, 2020 at 5:50 pm
    • RCAVictor

      Editor,

      Yesterday I visited two venues featuring the masked: a doctor’s office, which bars entry unless you are wearing a mask and have a temperature check (my temperature automatically goes up when confronted with stupidity), and an office supply store.

      The doctor and his assistant came into the examination room wearing masks, and gave me some good news, actually. So I tried a little test at the end: I apologized because I wanted to shake his hand. He told me not to worry and then we bumped elbows – but then he said the whole thing was “ridiculous”!

      Typical situation in a Communist state: obey the diktat publicly, express the truth privately. Fear.

      The office supply store now has a sign on the front door requesting that everyone wear masks, but I entered without one. No one bothered me, and one employee even helped me figure out the computerized copy machine.

      This mask-wearing seems to getting more pervasive lately, even as the scam-demic disease disappears from view.

      June 18, 2020 at 6:56 pm
      • editor

        RCA Victor,

        That’s the give-away – that the virus is disappearing and yet now, at the tail end, face-masks are mandatory.

        Think of the lack of logic. From the get-go the WHO was saying that face-marks are of no real use in the wider population. No point in wearing them. That was the consistent message throughout… Until – after one media numpty after another pestered everyone in sight, every politician, every commentator, with the question “shouldn’t wearing masks be mandatory” – voila! wearing masks is mandatory.

        The one advantage for the Government of making masks mandatory is that they can see at a glance – literally – just how compliant is the population.

        So I say “hurrah!” to the George Square Rebel – may she live in peace, with no follow up by Police Scotland, please and thank you! Remember, once facial recognition gets into widespread use, she is one who would be at risk of follow up, so my message to the George Square Rebel is…

        Stay safe! 😀

        June 18, 2020 at 7:13 pm
      • Laura

        Editor,

        Not only are these ridiculous masks now mandatory on public transport as from Monday, but a friend told me that they’ll be given out free on the buses etc on Monday, but after a while they’ll have to be paid for by individuals. So, it seems they’re going to be in use for the foreseeable future.

        If enough people refuse to wear the masks then the bus companies will be afraid of going out of business, and just might fightback. I’m definitely not going to wear one – I’ll start shopping at the local SPAR and bypass the supermarkets so I don’t need to take the bus any more. When all of this stupidity ends, I’ll think about using the buses again.

        After watching that lovely man in the video (Dennis Prager) I feel I have to say, please DON’T stay safe, LOL! Live dangerously!

        June 18, 2020 at 10:42 pm
      • Theresa Rose

        Laura,

        I have thought of wearing a burkha, in which only the whites of my eyes could be seen. Especially a blue one, as that is my favourite colour.

        No face mask for me either, or, as RCA Victor calls them – face diapers.

        ! agree with you about the Dennis Prager video.

        June 22, 2020 at 10:42 pm
      • editor

        Theresa Rose,

        That’s a great idea! The press would probably pick it up if they saw a string of women entering Catholic churches wearing the Burkha -and with their usual enthusiasm for fake news, report that there’s an avalanche of Muslim women converting to Catholicism!

        June 22, 2020 at 11:48 pm
  • RCAVictor

    Editor,

    It’s a good thing you don’t have baseball in Scotland, because if you did, you’d have to listen to an umpire call out that dreaded word when the baserunner makes it to the base before the tag:

    https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/baseball-player-being-called-safe-by-umpire-picture-idCA01430?s=170667a

    June 18, 2020 at 11:37 pm
    • editor

      Love it!

      But, hang around for a few minutes, RCA Victor – keep an eye on the “Letter” thread…. I’m about to have a little fun !

      June 18, 2020 at 11:44 pm
  • Miles Immaculatae

    It’s the lefty metro-liberal types who are going along with this Covid histeria. And there’s a reason for this. In Anglo-Saxon culture, ‘Woke’ politics, i.e. Cultural Marxism, has become a new surrogate religion, to fill the void in the absence of Traditional religion in our society. And what a hideous puritanical cult this is. They’ve banned ‘Little Britain’ from the airwaves, and even the classic film ‘Gone With the Wind’ is now censored. We’re heading for a new Cromwellian dictatorship, I keep on saying it. This religion has its own symbols and rites, for example, they are now genuflecting (press full of public figures kneeling for George Floyd). World’s gone bonkers mad.

    June 19, 2020 at 6:28 pm
  • editor

    I can’t believe the hysteria shown by the bishops. It’s beyond belief.

    Check out the criteria for attending churches when they reopen…
    https://www.bcos.org.uk/COVID19/tabid/127/Default.aspx
    (note, the over 70’s, those likely to be closer to facing divine judgment, are not encouraged to attend, must follow government guidance)

    And….

    https://www.bcos.org.uk/COVID19/COVID19FAQs/tabid/129/Default.aspx

    It’s almost like, the more the Government “eases” the lockdown, the stricter the Bishops become !

    A casual observer might think that they really don’t want to encourage the few who are still attending to continue to do so… Signed Cynical, Glasgow…

    June 20, 2020 at 7:47 pm
    • Athanasius

      Editor

      What they are doing now they will answer for in eternity before the divine judge. I think we have to accept that a very great majority of bishops no longer possess supernatural faith, they are mere functionaries of a culturally Marxist new world order.

      June 20, 2020 at 8:02 pm
      • editor

        Athanasius,

        And so we now can better understand the reluctance of the Vatican to release the hidden part of the Fatima message, known as the Third Secret.

        It’s staring us in the face !

        June 20, 2020 at 8:55 pm
      • Athanasius

        Editor

        Absolutely correct. They know what the Third Secret says and it doesn’t make Vatican II “The New Pentecost” look good.

        June 20, 2020 at 11:13 pm
    • RCAVictor

      Editor,

      Our favorite word is included in the guidelines at the first link you posted, thusly:

      “May the Body and Blood of Christ keep us all safe to eternal life…”

      This document is just pathetic, a total surrender to government-directed insanity. If Nicola Sturgeon asked your bishops to jump off the nearest bridge, because it would be the safest thing to do (in the face of this deadly mild form of the flu), I’m sure they would comply without the slightest hesitation.

      Satan is having a field day toying with these bishops.

      June 20, 2020 at 11:59 pm
      • editor

        RCA Victor,

        Spot on. In fact, it’s amazing how blindly so many people are following Nicola Sturgeon.

        I even hear people saying that they didn’t used to like her at all and would never vote for her but she’s shown herself to be such a strong leader through lockdown – much better than Boris Johnson because she’s being “cautious” in not rushing to ease the restrictions…

        I take immense pleasure in pointing out that what she is doing, by definition, is following Boris – he announces the eased restriction(s) and she follows around a week or so later! That’s not leading – that’s following.

        And the Bishops are the same. I can’t work it out but I’m guessing it’s rooted in two things: the false nationalism whipped up by the SNP (a “nationalism” that demands independence from England and Wales, yet wants to keep the same Queen, the same currency, continue with open borders, apply to rejoin the EU and hand them over money and control of our sea waters and courts again) but, those wee details aside, I think the Bishops are afraid NOT to support nationalism, thinking it’s the fashion, and at the same time (second consideration) wishing to quash all thoughts of a Church which has a moral authority. Better (and much easier) for them to meekly follow Nicola as Nicola cleverly follows Boris (all the while manipulating the reality to make herself look like a “cautious” leader…)

        The Bishops, not aware that they are making themselves look like monumental fools, are openly admitting that they are being led by the Government. It’s as crazy as the police force saying they are going to allow the criminals to take charge of our streets. Oh, wait…isn’t that already happening in the USA? And what happens in the USA one minute, happens over here the next.

        Gimme patience!

        June 21, 2020 at 12:59 am
  • editor

    I had planned to launch a separate thread on the topic of returning to re-opened churches. As we are faced with the prospect of returning to Mass (or even to pay visits) on condition of following the hygiene restrictions – the “new normal” – do we simply conform or do we refuse. In the video below, a mother explains her family’s decision not to return to the traditional Latin Mass in her parish but since the video is restricted to being played only on YouTube I’ve abandoned my plan to launch a new thread; instead, I’m adding it into the mix here…

    The question is – is this family right to decide not to return to Mass under these new conditions? And if you’d like to tell us what you plan to do, that would be interesting, and perhaps helpful to others. Tell us your thoughts on the subject. Note: when you open the video below, you will have to click on the link to “watch on YouTube”.

    June 22, 2020 at 7:14 pm
    • Josephine

      Editor,

      That’s a very interesting video indeed. I don’t know what to think about this. Part of me doesn’t want to in any way go along with the stupidity of hand sanitizers etc but on the other hand I want to get back to Mass asap.

      The deciding thing for me will be if the priest won’t give Communion on the tongue and during Mass at the proper time. I won’t be waiting behind for Communion and I won’t be receiving on the hand.

      June 22, 2020 at 11:56 pm
    • Athanasius

      Editor,

      If this family had been permitted to return to the Traditional Mass with only a ban on, say, receiving Holy Communion, then that would have been something they could have tried to compensate for by making a spiritual communion. But administration of Holy Communion in the hand together with the mask, sanitiser and social distancing rules just makes a mockery of the faith and the Mass, so they’re right not to attend.

      All of these new rules in churches scream absence of supernatural faith in the priests and bishops, who are individually and collectively a disgrace to the Church. Of all the people on earth, these men of God should be standing up against what is effectively an abusive secular intrusion into religion. It truly beggars belief that even Traditional priests have gone along with a lot of this stuff, though not with Communion in the hand.

      My problem with the lady in the video is that she is far too understanding of her bishop and priest, making excuses for them. She has to recognise that they’re selling her and her family out to secularism, placing their very souls at risk. There is no excuse to be made for them and they certainly will not be able to excuse themselves when they stand before the divine judge. The greater majority are either cowards or worldlings who have abandoned the flock in this time when we need priests and bishops with the spirit of the martyrs. It all comes back to Vatican II and the damage it has done to priestly faith and zeal.

      June 23, 2020 at 12:09 am
    • crofterlady

      Oh Editor, I cannot believe that the Society deprived the faithful of the sacraments. Shame on them. Many diocesan priests were heroic, God bless them. And I know where my loyalties will lie.

      June 25, 2020 at 10:54 pm

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