7/10: Feast of the Holy Rosary… For Your Diary – Public Rosary in Glasgow, 10/10
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The above hymn is set to a different tune from that with which most of us in Scotland grew up, but which is nowhere to be found on YouTube. In any event, it’s a pretty tune, and gives honour to Our Lady on this beautiful Feast of the Most Holy Rosary…
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Our blogger Catherine has been asking us, for many months now, to publicise a Rosary for the specific intention of the Consecration of Russia, in the manner requested by Our Lady of Fatima. We are pleased to comply with Catherine’s request, given the fact that our political situation is now increasingly serious. We find ourselves living under a very different type of governance where our leaders now simply issue orders – “rule by decree” – which is typical of totalitarian regimes. Our personal and religious freedoms have been removed in the name of a virus which is harmless in most people who become infected, and which contributes to the death of very few indeed. Initially sold to us as a temporary measure, it is very clear that the drastic changes to our way of life are here to stay – indefinitely. Elsewhere on this blog you will find evidence of the intention of the world’s “elite” to use the Coronavirus in order to “reset” the world. Sound like a conspiracy theory? As long as you don’t mind being proved wrong, click here
At Fatima, Our Lady warned that Russia would spread her errors, and chief amongst those errors is Communism. Using fear of the Coronavirus, the Governments of the UK have managed to remove our personal and religious freedoms, promising that this is a temporary measure to prevent the spread of this non-deadly virus.
Fear has now gripped the population, including the clergy; priests and bishops are pledged to co-operate in implementing Government rules and regulations in our churches. Thus, we are happy to comply with Catherine’s request for a public rosary specifically dedicated to praying for the graces necessary to bring the Pope and Bishops of the world to see the need to obey Our Lady and properly consecrate Russia to her Immaculate Heart.
Arrangements for Public Rosary, Saturday, 10 October, 3pm. . .
Meet at the Clyde Walkway, opposite St Andrew’s Catholic Cathedral on Clyde Street, Glasgow, at 3pm
Father Stephen Dunn will lead the fifteen decades of the Rosary, as well as the very short Litany of Our Lady of Loretto and the Prayer to St Michael, Archangel.
A friend of Catherine’s has offered to bring a bier holding a statue of Our Lady of Fatima, which means that we may be able to process during the Rosary. We will either stand to pray or process.
We ask everyone who can manage to come along, because public prayer is very powerful, very pleasing to God at the best of times and especially at this time, given that He has been denied the worship due to Him for months now, because of State control over the Church.
This thread will remain open for questions – Catherine will respond to any enquiries in the comments below.
Our Lady, Queen of the Most Holy Rosary, pray for us!
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Happy Feast Day to to everyone!
Thank you, Catherine, and thank you for your persistence in pushing for a public rosary as close to October 13 as possible (anniversary of the Fatima miracles of the sun) for the specific intention of the Consecration of Russia. We know that that will please Our Lady greatly.
Happy Feast to you!
Thank you Editor for posting that lovely hymn to Our Lady. It is the tune that I grew up with but never hear these days. It is so sad that so many young Catholics and children grow up with out knowing the traditional Catholic hymns at all. The sensus catholicus is mostly lost I fear with so many things, rogation days, forty hours, processions, benediction, and other devotions lost or hard to find. Do you think they will ever come back?
Elizabeth,
I love those old hymns as well and I think they are still sung in some parishes. It all depends on the priest and if there is somebody there in the congregation helping with the music, who remembers the old hymns and suggests them. I hate to think they are lost forever.
Elizabeth,
I apologise for taking so long to answer your question – do I think the old traditions will ever return to the diocesan parishes… well, I believe some parishes have kept these traditions alive and yes, I believe when proper order is restored in the Church, the Pope and Bishops and priests will do what the Jewish priests did when they emerged from exile in Babylon… sit down and work out where things went wrong!
Hence the Book of Leviticus with its umpteen detailed rules and regulations!
So, be careful for what you wish!
Happy Feast Day everyone.
I will certainly attend the public rosary on Saturday. It is 103 years since Our Lady requested that Russia be Consecrated to Her Immaculate Heart. That Consecration is overdue.
https://www.catholiceducation.org/en/culture/history/how-the-1571-battle-of-lepanto-saved-europe.html
We should never forget the power of the Rosary as history shows. Pope Pius V asked the naval force of Christendom to pray the Rosary prior to the battle in which the larger Moslem force were defeated.
Theresa Rose,
Look forward to seeing you tomorrow!
Will the rosary go ahead even if there is a change in the weather, like very heavy rain?
Josephine,
Yes, the rosary will go ahead as planned, even if it’s raining.
I’ve just looked at the forecast for Saturday and Glasgow is likely to be sunny. No rain showing!
I’ll leave this thread open in case anyone wishes to comment after the event – although it won’t be at the top of the page any more.
Thank you in advance to all who are planning to attend and to those who can’t make it, please say a wee prayer that everything goes smoothly… I imagine those handcuffs would be very uncomfortable!
Not a handcuff in sight! However, around 150 people praying all 15 decades was a joy! Thanks to the organizers and a special thanks to Fr Dunn. A very special day and Our Lady blessed us with warm autumnal sunshine too!
What a wonderful day! I’m sure Our Lady was pleased with everyone and especially Fr. Dunn.
Well done to everyone who attended.
Our Lady Of Fatima, pray for us.
Graeme,
Thank you for travelling to participate in the public rosary – and yes, not a handcuff in sight although a police van passed by, slowed down, had a good look, not once, not twice, but – I’m reliably informed – three times, before going merrily on their way. I don’t think anyone wore a mask, so it may be that they decided to turn a blind eye since there were too many to fit in the van – and having 25 vans lined up to take us all to the cop shop for questioning, might have been something of a stretch on resources.
Clearly, Our Lady was looking after us – and since I’d invested in not one, not two but three candles at church this morning for the intention of meeting only nice police officers, if any, I’m pleased to say that bribery really does work! With Our Lady, I mean, not the police! Goodness, just like the thing if I evade being arrested for not wearing mask and/or breaking restrictions of one kind or another, only to end up being jailed for attempting to pervert the course of justice by bribing an officer 😀
Just dawned on me – three candles, three police vans… well, probably same van x 3 times, but same difference… 😀
Anyway, thank you, Graeme, for making the journey and thanks, too, to all who came along. It was a lovely afternoon.
Due to unforeseen circumstances, our original hopes of processing with the statue did not happen – the lovely lady bringing the statue got lost driving from Edinburgh (I’m saying nothing [more] about our brothers and sisters in the capital, except there’s always one…) but we were able to process after the prayers and sing the Salve Regina a few times, with the statue carried on a wooden bier by a couple of the young men attending, which was a fitting end to the event. I’ll do my best to fit in some of the photos because the statue is absolutely beautiful – one of the most beautiful I’ve ever seen. Thank you, Edinburgers, for bringing it… 😀
And thanks again to all who attended.
I’m sorry to say I missed the advertisement for this public rosary, didn’t notice until it was too late. I will, however, offer a rosary in union with the intention for today. Sounds like a great number turned out which is very encouraging and I’m sure extremely pleasing to Our Lady.
Hi Catherine, the Archbishop wasn’t at the Cathedral or the Diocesan offices yesterday. I’m told he didn’t know anything about your rosary. Sorry to disappoint.
Sarah
Sarah,
If the archbishop didn’t know anything about our rosary, then he is the only person in Scotland who didn’t know! That does not speak well of him at all.
A crowd of at least 150 gathered outside his cathedral, praying the rosary, processing with a statue on a bier, carried by two teenage lads, all of us singing Salve Regina, and he didn’t know about it? WOW!
Anyway, Catherine’s friend – whom she met at the rosary rally – did not say that the Archbishop was there – her comment specifically said that “Little Bo Peep” did the checking. I believe Father Sharkey checked us out a few times 😀 Interesting, though, that YOU know who was in and around the Cathedral/Diocesan offices. In with the “in crowd” – lucky you!
Anyway, it strikes me as being meant as a simple joke – don’t worry about it.
PS – our posts are in the wrong order – that’s because Catherine emailed me to ask me to correct a mistake in her original post. I’ve just seen it and made the requested changes, before releasing yours and answering you. What am I LIKE?! Apologies for any confusion caused, but this happens from time to time, when bloggers ask me to delete and allow them to resubmit comments. Am I complaining?
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Ah good old Fr Gerry! He likes to do his nosey. In crowd? No, not really. I’m there in a pastoral capacity three afternoons per week.
I’m glad 150 people turned up. I can only imagine Fr Dunn recruited most of them. He’s a very well liked priest. People are drawn to his authenticity. It’s a pity he doesn’t have a parish. It could be a real powerhouse.
Sarah
Sarah,
You are there in a “pastoral capacity”? Don’t tell me you’re there as a chaplain to the chaplains? Whatever next! Doesn’t bear thinking about, these days, if you know what I mean – I hope Fr Sharkey doesn’t end up like his predecessor…
You have to laugh!
Sarah,
As you said
“Fr Dunn is a very well liked priest. People are drawn to his authenticity.” True.
Even the Spaniards in USA and South Americans want to listen to his letter. see –
https://youtu.be/KTXwjuQPTVI
With such popularity, I hope he writes another open letter soon 😀
Sarah,
I don’t know why you think Father Dunn recruited 150 people for the rosary – I think most of us saw it advertised on this blog and saw the need to pray for the Consecration of Russia. BTW, I think it may have been more than 150, but 150 minimum were there. The icing on the cake was that it was going to be led by a priest who has actually come out publicly to share his letter to the Bishops, where he disapproves of the archdiocese of Glasgow allowing the Government to dictate how we use our churches. Speaking for myself, I’d just about given up hope of any leadership from the clergy, so that was a very pleasant surprise.
OLOG,
I believe there is a programme in place for Confirmation. Speak with your parish priest and your child’s school.
Athanasius,
There isn’t really a “traditional” age of Confirmation. It’s been shifted around over the centuries. Remember it is only relatively recently that young children have been admitted to Holy Communion.
Sarah
The Pope who made the change that allowed children of 7 years and above to receive their Lord in the Blessed Sacrament is the same canonised saint who fought against the very Modernism we now see rampant in the Church at every level.
Confirmation is a great and essential Sacrament, no less than the Holy Ghost descending on recipients with grace to strengthen them in the battle against the devil, the flesh and the world. Satan doesn’t delay his assaults on Christ’s little ones until they reach 11 or 12 years, he seeks rather to destroy their innocent souls immediately.
Hence, no right thinking Catholic with a truly supernatural understanding of the power of this Sacrament could ever contemplate reversing the Church’s wisdom in the matter by once again depriving children unnecessarily of its powerful heavenly aid. I don’t think there is any kind of pretext that can be put forward in defence of such wanton loss of belief in the power and urgency of the Sacraments.
Athanasius,
The Pope who changed the time of reception of Holy Communion did not at that point change Confirmation. There has never, ever been a set age. Indeed, it often changes from Diocese to Diocese.
I’ve never heard of anyone being Confirmed a week after their Holy Communion. I’m assuming you received the Eucharist in P3, aged 7? It would be far too much for a 7 year old child to be prepared for Holy Communion and Confirmation at near enough the same time. I would completely disagree with that. What 7 year old could learn the catechism for those two sacraments at the same time? Either you are mistaken or your preparation was suspect.
This afternoon I checked with the Archdiocesan Offices and in the Archdiocese of Glasgow. The Traditional age in the Archdiocese, going back to before the Council, was Primary 7. This changed briefly in the 2000s to P4 but was changed back to P7. There’s no record of it ever being in P3, straight after Confirmation. Perhaps you weren’t Cofirmed in the Archdicoese? Were you confirmed in the New Rite? Something doesn’t seem right with your story.
Dear Laura,
I heard that some people turned up to support Fr Dunn, despite their disapproval of Catholic Truth Scotland. I’m sure it doesn’t matter who recruited them, does it?
Sarah
Sarah 1973,
How many turned up that disapprove of Catholic Truth Scotland?
Also, why would any Catholic disapprove of Catholic Truth Scotland?
These are genuine questions – I know people who have been following the Catholic Truth blog for years and none of us can see anything to disapprove of. The newsletter is always informative on news, doctrine etc., so what’s the problem?
Sarah,
I’ve been away from my computer and not had a chance to respond to your comment until now.
Personally, I was only too pleased to see so many people turn up for the Rosary on Saturday, and I’m sure lots of people were “recruited” by Father Dunn and others who had read his letter, originally published here, but thereafter published around the world. I’m sure you are right in that not everyone who attended supports Catholic Truth and some, perhaps the majority, were there to support Father Dunn. I was there to pray for the graces necessary for the Pope to consecrate Russia in the manner requested by Our Lady.
However, I think there is some misunderstanding about the organisers of the event. Not guilty! This was not a “Catholic Truth event”, so everyone who attended can breathe freely again.
One of our readers, who doubles as the Fatima Co-ordinator for Scotland, username Catherine, has been asking me for a while to advertise a public rosary (which she planned to organise) with the explicit intention of praying for the Consecration of Russia.
Thanks to my tardiness, this didn’t happen, but when Catherine read Father Dunn’s letter, she launched her campaign again. She thought (rightly) that it would be perfect if Father Dunn would lead her longed for public rosary for the Consecration of Russia.
The only way in which Catholic Truth was involved, was in advertising the event.
Catherine is the brains behind it (or rather, the “Faith” behind it!) She is very conscious of the urgency of the Fatima Consecration. We merely helped by advertising the event, as we did some months ago for another blogger who asked us to advertise that public rosary some months ago – I went along to that one, as well, although we had no part in the organising. If you wish to organise one, Sarah, we’ll gladly advertise it for you.
As far as the unpopularity of Catholic Truth is concerned – I can really only echo Josephine’s question, which is why would any Catholic disapprove of the work of Catholic Truth? Feel free, however, to consider that a rhetorical question – the available answers do not make edifying reading…
Dear editor,
I’ve certainly not seem much to object to on the forum. I’ve noticed you often refer to “our enemies” and it’s no secret that given the hard hitting nature of the pamphlet and forum you will not be entirely popular with the Archdiocese!
Whoever organised the Rosary should be very proud.
I’m about to go offline for a few weeks as I’m going to Shetland. I hope to pay a visit on my return.
Sarah
Sarah,
We tend to call our “pamphlet” a “newsletter” – not that it matters. It’s been called worse!
And we certainly do have enemies. It’s not just that our writings are hard-hitting but it’s the reason for our hard-hitting writings. Sadly, we’ve often had to correct false teaching coming from senior churchmen and dissident priests, and so, as you acknowledge, that makes us unpopular in the Archdiocese of Glasgow and, indeed, in dioceses across Scotland.
That’s why we’re unpopular – unlike priests who have written dreadful anti-Catholic stuff in so-called Catholic newspapers. They can be as hard-hitting as they like, as long as their aim is the traditional teaching of the Church and the moral law. No problem. But let some pesky lay people dare to highlight the attacks on the Faith from within – that makes US enemies of their modernism, and as we know from the beautiful (and very hard-hitting) encyclical on Modernism penned by Pope Saint Pius X, Modernism is the enemy of the Faith.
http://www.vatican.va/content/pius-x/en/encyclicals/documents/hf_p-x_enc_19070908_pascendi-dominici-gregis.html
Catherine will appreciate your praise for her hard work. Thank you. She’s a young home-schooling mother, so her efforts to promote the Fatima Message and the Consecration of Russia are not the work of one of those “ladies who lunch” – or who used to lunch before we had to register to enter a restaurant, which means MY days of being a lady who lunches are well and truly over! I refuse to co-operate with any of this nonsense. I don’t want anyone to track and trace me, unless it’s to share a lottery win 😀
Enjoy your weeks in Shetland.
Safe journey there and back…
God bless you.
Sarah,
Need to to speak to Archbishop about my kids Confirmation; don’t want it pushed back once, twice then three times or even more.
Could you speak to the Archbishop and get him to have a meeting with me? I am available to suit him, whenever he wants.
Thanks very much
OLOG
My concern about Confirmations is less that it’s being pushed back a few weeks or months to this heinous Modernist practice of waiting till kids are 11 or 12 years old. My Confirmation was one week after my First Holy Communion at age 7, that was the Traditional practice. Yet another sign of lost faith in the Sacraments!
Dear Athanasius,
Isn’t 11 or 12 the age the SSPX confirm children?
“Whatever you have said in the dark will be heard in the daylight, and what you have whispered in hidden places will be proclaimed from the household.” Luke 12: 2-3.
They say Big Bishop was watching us yesterday, he was that keen to know how many turned up for the rosary. Although he was probably not there in person, apparently three times he sent Little Bo Peep, right thro Cathedral to diocesan office side, to come and see how we were getting on. Beware Bishop, Big Patricia (i e .Editor, Catholic Truth) will find all out. Nothing will be hidden! Ends.
I’m not really in the know about the above, but somebody who was there asked me to post this for her. I hope everyone else understands it.
Dear Catherine,
Isn’t this a bit unkind? Little Bo Beep?
Sarah,
Just noticed this – “Little Bo Beep” with the “sheep” connection is surely just a bit of humour. Not intended to be unkind. I didn’t contribute that message, but I’m sure it was only meant as a bit of fun – I believe one of the women present at the rosary noticed Father having a wee look to see the group, and, although technically she should have been so lost in prayer and mystical contemplation (like, dare I say it, my unworthy self…) that she wouldn’t have noticed, she’s obviously one of these “human” types, easily distracted.
Takes all sorts, Sarah. All sorts 😀
PS Catherine wasn’t kidding when she said she didn’t really understand the message she was asked to post – she freely admits that she doesn’t get jokes; believe me, never a truer word. So, I’ve responded on her behalf, and I can just hear her sighing in relief 😀
I would like some advice from the bloggers about a matter than seems beyond my usual level of tact and diplomacy (say nothing, Editor!).
For three years now our parish has held a Rosary Rally early in October, organized by a member of the parish, who is also apparently a TFP member. I’m not sure if the Rally is billed as a TFP event, though. I think it is. There are packets stuffed with TFP items given to each attendee.
Two years ago I emailed the event organizer (the TFP member) to thank him for pointing out, in his opening remarks, that the Consecration had not been done as Our Lady requested. I told him that it was my understanding that the TFP was equivocal about that.
In response, he assured me that the TFP was faithful to Our Lady’s request, and gave me a book published by America Needs Fatima to prove it. The book is The Immaculate Heart of Mary and God’s Plan for America, by Luiz Sergio Solimeo.
I don’t know what the relationship is between ANF and the TFP, but I read through this book carefully and discovered that the author had completely distorted, at the end of the book, Our Lady’s warning that the Consecration would be “late.” This author claimed that the Consecration was intended to stop WWII, and that Our Lady said, since that had failed, that it would be “too late.”
The author pulled this little trick by some very devious editing, leaving out quotation marks to make it appear that those were Our Lady’s words.
I then wrote a detailed email to one of our priests with my analysis, and said that I didn’t want to cause any conflict in the parish, but that this book was thoroughly dishonest. There were some copies in the vestibule which he then removed, but nothing else was done as far as I know. I made no further attempt to communicate with the Rally organizer, since he apparently didn’t even know what was in the book he recommended.
Meanwhile, we are all encouraged to attend this annual TFP event. My desire is to continue to avoid raising a stink and embarrassing a respected member of the parish, but I am considering refusing to attend future events.
What says the blogosphere?
RCA Victor,
Here’s my tuppence-worth.
1) Both America Needs Fatima (ANF) and the Tradition, Family, Property (TFP) groups are dangerous, in my objective opinion. Unless they’ve drastically changed their position, neither of them promotes the Consecration of Russia and never offer a word about the Third Secret – that part which stubbornly remains secret… Personally, I avoid all contact with them and – ages ago – I asked them to stop sending me their literature. Haven’t had anything since then, so – in the interests of transparency – I have to admit that I do not know their up to date positions. They may have changed, I just don’t know.
2) The priest is unlikely to say a word to the parishioner about the unsuitability of the book containing false information / distortions about the Consecration. I wouldn’t say anything more to him (you’ve already alerted him) because the popular MO of clergy in such situations is to accuse the “complainer” of demonising the culprit. Honestly, could you make this stuff up? Nope. That’s what I think, as well.
3) It might be fruitful to arrange a private word with the parishioner to thank him for organising the rosary rally and giving you the book to read, before going on to explain why you were disappointed with the book and how you now feel unable to support future events.
Signed: Oprah Winfrey… 😀
RCAVictor
It’s one of those horrible decision-making moments that none of us likes. Sadly I believe you should refuse to participate since both the TFP and ANF are distorting Our Lady’s words. I wrote to ANF years ago about this very ploy and they just ignored me and carried on regardless. That little episode told me that they are not acting in good faith. I would definitely avoid these people, they are using the rosary to push a false narrative that is harmful for the Church and for souls.
That’s only my opinion.
Athanasius,
No it’s not only your opinion – don’t be selfish. It’s mine as well! Our posts went up at one and the same time. I think they call it “simultaneously” 😀
Editor
Oh well, share and share alike!
Athanasius & Editor (er, Oprah),
Many thanks for your feedback. Honestly, I don’t think it’s worth it to have a private word with the organizer – he has made his bed and slept in it lo these many years. In fact, years ago, he was on my Flying Buttress mailing list (he never knew I was Tomas de Torquemada), but after one particularly blunt issue he emailed and said he thought my talents were better applied elsewhere!
So this is someone who doesn’t rock the boat, and doesn’t like it when other rock it either.
I will definitely find a different Rosary event next year (assuming I’m still living in these parts!). Or maybe I’ll organize a Rosary chamber music concert…
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