Are Vaccine Passports/Certificates Forced Vaccination by the Back Door… Immoral?

Are Vaccine Passports/Certificates Forced Vaccination by the Back Door… Immoral?

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Dominique is on her own, alone in arguing against vaccine passports and certificates, which she claims amounts to forced vaccination – but is she right? 

Comments (46)

  • Warydoom

    Yes!

    February 20, 2021 at 12:30 am
    • Laura

      Warydoom,

      Your comment reminds me of the line in the Scottish song “you’re no a man tae throw a word away” LOL!

      February 20, 2021 at 4:24 pm
      • Warydoom

        Laura,

        Love it!

        I’ve always wanted to be succinct and felt this was my moment!😀

        February 21, 2021 at 11:55 am
  • Margaret Mary

    It’s typical TV tactics to put on a debate which is 4 against 1, counting the two presenters. It’s deliberately set up to make Dominique look like an extremist, with the usual suggestions that those who refuse the vaccine are selfish and everyone needs to be protected against them. The lie is that the vaccine is not being “forced” – they latch onto that word – but if the “consequences” of the choice not to have the vaccine means that you can’t use ordinary facilities like shops, then it definitely is being forced. We are forced to have it if we want to use public transport, buy food etc.

    They said after the war and the scandal of human experiments carried out by Hitler’s evil doctor, Dr Mengele who is notorious for his work at the Auschwitz concentration camp – he performed shocking experiments on prisoners. So, this sleazy “nobody is forced, but there are consequences to not having the vaccine” is really evil, just continuing the work of Mengele – experimenting on us. .

    February 20, 2021 at 10:07 am
    • Faith of Our Fathers

      Yes the above V.V.N. or Vatican Vaccine News is also on Life Site News are we surprised most certainly not me and I don’t suppose any who frequent Catholic Truth will be . Also to the so called Medical. High Tech . Global Warming. Bio Chemist and Farming Expert Billy Gates who’s estimated Fortune has supposedly gone up at least $ 20 Billion in the last year is now saying that 3 Jabs of the Vaccine or ( the Mark of The Beast whichever way you look at it ) may now be required and maybe on a Yearly Basis ( got to keep that money Flowing in ) to keep this Rapidly Changing Disease at Bay . Yet in Brazil and now in India the People catching this Chinese Disease has decreased enormously although Scientists say they don’t know why . Am no Scientist but the Word Ivermectin should give them a clue . As to the Above Interrogation of the Young Woman again nothing now on the Rotten M.S.M. surprises me . As for the Doctors opinion on this Particular Vaccine or should I say these particular Vaccines. He says that evidence shows that people Vaccinated who say go on an Airplane are less liable than those not Vaccinated to carry the Disease. This is a Lie as it is far to early to make those kind of statements. I understand that He may or may not be in the frontline but it is certainly too early to be making those kind of statements. Also someone should have told Him that Normal People don’t ever want to travel or go anywhere near Saudi Arabia.

      February 20, 2021 at 12:50 pm
    • Nicky

      Margaret Mary,

      I totally agree about that debate – it was heavily weighted against Dominique, but that’s no surprise. She thinks for herself!

      I’d love to know why the media is so full of the Government’s propaganda – there must be a reason, as it goes against what journalism and reporting is supposed to be all about, fact-checking and holding politicians to account. They seem to be brainwashed by “the science” coming from Downing Street that they don’t seem to want to check any other science!

      February 20, 2021 at 8:24 pm
  • Margaret Mary

    Sorry, I missed out a bit – I meant to write “they said after the war that it was against the law to force populations to be vaccinated”

    February 20, 2021 at 10:09 am
  • Josephine

    I was appalled to read this article by a priest in Catholic World Report
    https://www.catholicworldreport.com/2021/02/19/opinion-is-taking-the-covid-19-vaccine-a-moral-duty/

    He quotes the Vatican pushing back on their earlier statement about staff being dismissed if they refused the vaccine by saying they would be moved to other jobs or they could get their jobs back after the pandemic is over. There’s no mention of how they will pay their bills in the meantime. This pandemic is truly separating the sheep from the goats among the clergy.

    February 20, 2021 at 11:22 am
  • Lily

    I was also appalled at that Catholic World Report article by a priest saying yes, we do have a moral duty to take the vaccine. This pandemic has made everybody into a health expert or a moral theologian!

    I know instinctively that I don’t have any moral duty to take these vaccines, and so should he. God knows what they teach in seminaries these days – I shudder to think.

    February 20, 2021 at 1:39 pm
  • Theresa Rose

    The article from the Remnant Newspaper is titled ‘Indoctrinated to be Inoculated. It is another way of saying neuro lingquistic programming.

    https://remnantnewspaper.com/web/index.php/fetzen-fliegen/item/5283-indoctrinated-to-be-inoculated

    One of the comments at the end of the article, Ricardo quotes Archbishop Vigano ‘Who observes that “What we are witnessing represents the rehearsal for the establishment of the Kingdom of the Antichrist”.

    As I understand it the UK are in discussions with their Greek counterparts about Covid passports for British subjects to present if they wish to enter Greece on holiday. That I think is just the beginning. It worries me if a decision could be made to ban those not vaccinated from using public transport, shopping for food etcetera.

    Margaret Mary, I agree with your comment today at 10.07am. Dominque was made to look like an extremist. And that those who refuse the vaccine are selfish are often asked if they are anti vaxxers.
    It is so easy for people to be pressurised to take the vaccine, irrespective of their wishes not to take it.
    This all ties in with the ‘Great Reset’ and what the Global Elite are planning for the rest of humanit.

    February 20, 2021 at 4:20 pm
    • Laura

      Theresa Rose,

      I agree with you totally – thaks for spelling that out so clearly.

      I’ve just been watching this video – it’s a barrister explaining that the Government can’t force us to have vaccinations but it was made two months ago. He also explains that the law in the USA is different.

      February 20, 2021 at 4:23 pm
      • Lily

        Laura,

        As we are finding out, they don’t need to pass a law to force us to be vaccinated. They just need to force us to get a vaccine passport to travel or a certificate to allow us into shops. What’s that if not forcing us to be vaccinated? I read somewhere that at least half of the British population don’t want the vaccine so they’ll definitely do something to make us pay.

        February 20, 2021 at 4:32 pm
      • Theresa Rose

        Lily,

        I agree, they don’t need to pass a law to force us to be vaccinated. That the UK are in discussions with Greece about Covid-19 passports. Greece has advocated such passports for those wishing to holiday there, in the near future when everything supposedly opens up. UK ‘government’ are in discussions with their counterparts over this matter.

        If the above discussions come to fruition with passports for going abroad on holiday. I can only assume that there might come the day, that we will be forced to have one for shopping for food and anything else. What then, if we do not have such a passport? Not much chance then of going to the dentist or chiropodist.

        Although vaccinations are not mandatory in the UK. But coercion can be applied to anyone who has not complied with taking the vaccine, whether it be from relatives, friends or others. My recent experience was an uncomfortable one. I received a phone call to say two individuals were on their way to see me about the vaccine. Two healthcare workers duly arrived, one of whom had brought the vaccine in readiness for delivery. I refused to accept it. Both left without the vaccine being given, one certainly looked annoyed over the matter. I suspect the other might well have been unhappy too, but I could not really read the person.

        I have given only a basic sense of what happened. But for personal reasons I do not wish to divulge anything else, because for me it might lead to me being uncharitable.

        February 23, 2021 at 12:03 am
      • editor

        Theresa Rose,

        I admire your patience – and charity.

        If that had happened to me, I wouldn’t have been worrying about being led to being uncharitable, it would have led to attempted murder (assuming I didn’t succeed!)

        Good for you to stick to your guns and refuse. That is bullying, plain and simple. Well done for standing up to those two healthcare workers.

        February 23, 2021 at 9:36 am
  • Nicky

    It’s obvious that the Government are going to make the vaccine mandatory, if only by making life impossible without these passports and certificates. It’s a disgrace and I only hope that someone with the financial means to do so, challenges this in court.

    I also hope someone will sue the Government for the recommendation to wear face masks which is making life really unpleasant for those of us with exemptions. We get asked and made to feel bad about being exempt (you get sighs and shakes of the heads). I wanted to post these videos on the subject, because I don’t think people realise that they are not the best thing since sliced bread – the World Health Organisation is not pushing for them to be worn – they’ve wobbled on this but they admitted that was because of pressure from politicians! Their original advice was that they are unnecessary in populations. They can do more harm than good.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYI6ngjDUBo

    February 20, 2021 at 8:19 pm
  • Michaela

    That was a wholly biased discussion on GMB but kudos to Dominique – she is 100% right. They are taking away our freedoms wholesale – we’re going to 100% subjugated in no time. Nobody with any power seems to be fighting back Only a couple of MPs are speaking out but we need ALL the backbenchers to rise up and demand an end to this scandalous imprisonment of the populations of GB. It’s a disgrace.

    I’m certain that these vaccine passports will come here because they’re already announced in Ireland
    https://www.irishpost.com/news/vaccine-passports-set-to-be-be-introduced-in-ireland-leo-varadkar-confirms-204165?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=trending

    February 20, 2021 at 8:30 pm
    • editor

      Michaela,

      Well, as you say, if they’re already authorised in Ireland, we’re going to find ourselves either vaccinated or starving. Hobson’s Choice.

      February 21, 2021 at 12:02 am
  • RCAVictor

    Here’s a video of what happened when a mask-less group “invaded” a Trader Joe’s store in Santa Cruz, CA. I think the person who posted it thought it was supposed to be funny, but during the first segment, watch the faces of the store employees and masked customers: total panic, fear and confusion, followed by a refusal to serve them at the cash register.

    The power of orchestrated, enforced fear…

    February 21, 2021 at 2:57 pm
    • Margaret Mary

      RCA Victor,

      That is both really funny LOL stuff but also scary. Those shop workers are obviously terrified.

      I take it that not all shops are like that though, given the final scene where sanity seems to be in place. I don’t think it’s that bad here – yet. Saying that, I think I did see a video here once where someone was harassed in a supermarket and the police called. It’s just madness.

      February 21, 2021 at 6:28 pm
      • RCAVictor

        Margaret Mary,

        Yes, madness. I wonder how many people understand that nothing but madness can come from turning away from God.

        Or, as the ancient pagans used to say, ” Whom the gods would destroy, they first make mad.”

        February 21, 2021 at 7:16 pm
  • RCAVictor

    The other day I received a very interesting email from a group called Vicit Leo, which was preparing criminal indictments against the WHO and its fellow health dictatorship cronies. Here is part of the email:

    “Back in July 2020, you may remember our association launched a press conference in Rome which was called ‘Delenda OMS’ (The WHO Must Be Destroyed). The press conference featured leading Italian lawyers, scientists, politicians, and a pre-prepared statement from Monsignor Carlo Maria Viganò which was read out on his behalf.

    This press conference served to publicly launch our professional association, which is made up of experts in the fields of natural science, law and ethics. Amongst those in attendance at the conference were some journalists from a well-known investigative TV documentary programme produced by Italy’s publicly-owned national broadcaster RAI. Acting on some of the information provided by Vicit Leo at the press conference these journalists began their own investigation which resulted at the end of November in a major documentary exposé of the WHO and their collaborators. The documentary sent shock-waves around Italy, exposing, as it did, the corrupt collusion between the WHO, the Health Dictatorship and the Italian State: an unholy alliance between the upper echelons of the WHO and the Italian Ministry of Health; international diplomatic incidents; misuse of funds; and the possible manslaughter of tens of thousands of Italian citizens.

    At the same time as the documentary aired, our legal association was preparing twenty-four serious criminal accusations to be pursued against those who implement the criminal directives of the Health Dictatorship.

    The WHO, which do not forget is an official UN body, was so rattled that it is claiming diplomatic immunity for its people against criminal prosecution. So, unfortunately, it looks like WHO employees can not be prosecuted at this time.

    But we have also filed criminal complaints with the Court of Rome against the Minister of Health Roberto Speranza, and against representatives of the Technical Scientific Committee and the Higher Institute of Health.”

    They also provided a brief summary of what they are doing:

    https://sgetdotinfo.files.wordpress.com/2021/02/vicit-leo-criminal-complaint-summary.pdf

    If any of our bloggers are able to support them financially, they need help.

    February 21, 2021 at 8:01 pm
    • editor

      RCA Victor,

      That is all amazing stuff – is the documentary available on video anywhere (probably not YouTube but anywhere else?)

      That’s one documentary I would LOVE to see.

      Many thanks for posting that – dynamite.

      February 22, 2021 at 7:35 pm
      • RCAVictor

        Editor,

        The only site I could find with this info was in Italian, no English option. So even though I am of Italian persuasion, I was not able to translate, since the only Italian words I know can’t be repeated on this blog….

        February 22, 2021 at 11:15 pm
      • editor

        RCA Victor,

        My sympathy because the only Italian word I know is ciao – which I can’t, for the life of me, pronounce 😀

        February 22, 2021 at 11:25 pm
    • Warydoom

      RCAVictor,

      Thanks for the h/t re donations.

      February 23, 2021 at 12:00 am
  • RCAVictor

    Here’s a very clever young lady I’d never heard of before, with some poetic commentary on, I guess you could say, lies = truth:

    February 21, 2021 at 10:45 pm
    • editor

      RCA Victor,

      That is entertaining, plus! It’s good to see young(er!) people seeing through the scam.

      I cannot believe it but every time I switch on the radio (in the car) I hear some word or phrase associated with medicine / Covid. It is driving me round the bend.

      So, thank you for that moment of sanity!

      I’ll catch up with your other posts asap especially Vicit Leo – looks very interesting.

      I’m bashing away to finish the March newsletter but as soon as it’s done and dusted, I’ll catch up here.

      February 21, 2021 at 11:08 pm
  • Faith of Our Fathers

    I hope I have copied this correctly. We know that Gates is Evil but this is more information on this Man . https://banthis.tv/watch?id=602b3dfdd39d0a0931606dbd

    February 21, 2021 at 11:31 pm
    • editor

      FOOF,

      That looks really interesting- I’ll watch it asap.

      February 22, 2021 at 7:18 pm
      • Warydoom

        Editor,

        Here is an excellent post by Padre Peregrino. If only more priests would be as outspoken as he is.

        (Apologies if this has been posted before.)

        https://padreperegrino.org/2021/02/thirdshot/

        February 22, 2021 at 9:57 pm
      • editor

        Warydoom,

        I’ve just read that article and started to watch the video – terrific, so far.

        I actually saw Bill Gates in another interview earlier, posted somewhere here, where is is saying exactly what that priest mentions – that there will be ever new variants, new vaccines, more variants…. keeping the cycle going to keep us under control. I could see through it then and I can say I think that priest is totally correct now.

        This is what is going on, but if you watch the Peter Hitchens interview which I’ve just posted on the new Lockdown Inhumane thread, you will see that he expects that the alleged easing / ending of lockdown is not going to come and whatever temporary easing we are granted, will not be welcomed by those in the population who actually like living this way – incredible. I agree with him. Our whole way of life has been changed, now. The culture of masks and distancing is here to stay. That’s a given, now.

        February 22, 2021 at 11:44 pm
      • Warydoom

        Editor,

        It’s rather frightening that the most of the population just don’t get it and are content to be as frogs in warm water to be gradually boiled alive.

        So, apart from praying etc, for me the question is – what to do now?

        February 22, 2021 at 11:57 pm
      • editor

        Warydom,

        The best advice I’ve heard is to go on living our lives the way we’ve always lived it, and leave the masked up/socially distanced brigade to do their own thing.

        The problem arises when some of the people in our lives ARE going along with the nonsensical “stay safe” baloney, but if you have people / relatives / friends in your circle who think as we do, then you just do what you can to live an “old normal” lifestyle.

        And if you get “caught” being normal, just refuse to pay the fine 😀

        Disclaimer: for those tempted to report this comment to the “authorities” (on earth), I will simply deny every word. 😀

        February 23, 2021 at 9:43 am
      • Warydoom

        Editor,

        Thank you for your disclaimer. At least I know where you stand!😀

        This doctor makes a good point!

        Kelly Victory MD
        @DrKellyVictory
        ·
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        I talk about this every day on air — If masks are actually catching this deadly virus, shouldn’t we dispose of them in biohazard containers? You know, like we do with syringes and needles and bloody gauze…Rather than stuffing them in your car cup holder or pocket? #FactsNotFear
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        February 23, 2021 at 9:54 am
      • graeme taylor

        Warydoom,

        I have had too many conversations with staff working with the vulnerable feeling pressured into taking the vaccine by employers. I reminded them that this is the UK and that that is illegal to coerce people.
        I have been heartened in the last few weeks by converstaions with other staff who say they are joining a Union to protect themselves from any perceived coercion by employers. People are starting to wake up from slumber ( i hope I am not alone in hearing more positive responses to the narrative).

        February 23, 2021 at 6:45 pm
      • editor

        Graeme,

        I am very pleasantly surprised – and heartened – at your conversations with staff working with the vulnerable standing up to the vaccine bullies. That’s great news.

        You may not be alone in hearing such positive responses, but it’s the first I’ve heard. Those NHS staff whom I know object to the propaganda, are too afraid to say so.

        February 24, 2021 at 12:18 am
  • RCAVictor

    Last night a sacred music choir I accompany had its first rehearsal for our next concert, complete with masks, social distancing, and 30 minute breaks between sections so they could turn the ceiling fans on in the church and “circulate the air.”

    I tried to engage some of the tenors and basses in conversation about what I called “de-mythologizing” this scam and got nowhere, but I did refer one of the basses to the Lifesite News website. He was Catholic and had never heard of it, and he has also been trying to get a vaccine appointment without success due to government chaos. He should count his blessings (and clearly he was not aware that Catholics cannot take these vaccines because of moral issues).

    I think the vast majority of older Americans – these choristers are my age or older – are only too happy to do what the government and their medical experts tell them to do to stay healthy (!). It really is demoralizing; like an entire lost generation walking happily off a cliff following the Pied Piper. But they’ve been set up for this for many years, what with the endless vaccinations newborns receive at birth and in childhood, not to mention the annual PR about “getting your flu shot” for the winter.

    (This is off topic, but in this same rehearsal, which was in a beautiful old [Novus Ordo] church, I noticed a new Lenten decoration: 3 cactuses in pots placed on the ground in front of the altar. I had to wonder if this was a parish tradition, or whether the PP was simply following Francis and his Taco-mamma pots of dirt on the altar…off a different cliff…)

    February 23, 2021 at 3:16 pm
    • editor

      RCA Victor,

      It’s just incredible how unthinkingly everyone is going along with this nonsense.

      Speaking of the USA (which we weren’t but I’m about to) … 😀

      I started to watch the (live) trial of a man in America charged with murdering his wife. Honest to God, and I don’t mean to be unkind, but it’s a wonder she didn’t murder him – he’s no prize, believe me. I’d have picked him out in any line-up and I live thousands of miles away 😀 His shifty eyes are a give-away; if he didn’t do it, I’ll break with Lenten tradition and eat a bar box of chocolates. Seriously, I know he must have a fair trial – no question about it – but how I’d love to be on that jury…

      The trial caught my eye so I clicked to watch it and before I could say “he did it!” I noticed that everyone in the court was wearing a mask. But here’s the thing. While there was a clear intention to “socially distance” in that the people in the “audience” (so to speak) were spread out, the prosecution lawyers at the front were side by side literally rubbing shoulders, and the defence team, ditto. A youngish looking woman at the defence table sat on the right side of the murderer (he definitely did it) while the male lawyer sat on his left, everyone wearing masks. But, here’s the thing…

      Every few minutes the youngish female lawyer on the murderer’s right would lean towards him, place her left arm along his back and her right arm right along his front, almost touching his face, red painted fingernails just short of his mask. At first I thought she had decided to do what his wife should (obviously) have done yers ago, but no, she wasn’t trying to choke him. Not at all. Chummy to a fault. Whispering into his ear, no less. But for Covid and the travel restrictions, I’d have booked a flight and sat just behind them (there was a free seat). What on earth she was whispering, one can only guess and believe me one has been guessing… but due to the blankety blank masks I couldn’t lip read. So irritating.

      Laugh? I thought I’d never start. I mean, if he’d been a Rock Hudson look-a-like I could see the temptation, but “Shifty Eyes”? I tell you, if that murderer’s found not guilty, I’ll have lost all faith in the American legal system.

      https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-WcpM7AVhPkU/ToWqixhrX1I/AAAAAAAAEBI/2_y8CCR2N0U/s640/Advocate-Lawyer-Never-see-Lawyer-Business-Corporate-Law-Court-Cartoon-Joke.jpg

      February 24, 2021 at 12:46 am
  • Helen

    I’m spoiled for choice regarding where to post this!

    [youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKN1M74qcYE&w=1187&h=668%5D

    February 23, 2021 at 3:32 pm
    • editor

      Helen,

      Priceless! That’s great fun! I’ve not danced so much for ages, albeit in my chair! Thank you for that light relief.

      Some time later – 28 February, to be precise… I see that even a little humour is not permitted on YouTube if it departs from the permitted “narrative”…

      February 23, 2021 at 5:25 pm
  • editor

    Theresa Rose posted the comments and video below on the Vexatious Vaccine thread, but I think it’s worth posting here, as well.

    Madeleine Stone, is a legal and policy officer specialising in emergency powers. In a few short minutes she talks of ‘5 things you need to know about the UK’s Current Lockdown.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9J39OMn6GG8&feature=emb_logo

    1. Excessive policing. 2. Online Censorship. 3. Protest bans. 4. A Digital Coup.
    5. Vaccine Passports.

    Scary stuff about the collection of information on any giving individual – especially digital information, and that is as yet without the digital chip placed into your body at sometime in the future.

    February 28, 2021 at 10:04 pm
  • editor

    The prospect of a vaccine passport won over Peter Hitchens – very disappointing.

    March 2, 2021 at 10:06 am
  • Lily

    You can sign the petition against vaccine passports here.
    https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/569957

    On Monday 15 March, MPs will debate vaccine passports, in response to this petition.

    Watch the debate (from 4.30pm, Mon 15 March):
    https://youtu.be/wtJqyDyuqhE

    Read the debate transcript (available shortly after the conclusion of the debate): https://hansard.parliament.uk/commons/2021-03-15

    March 4, 2021 at 11:12 am
  • Theresa Rose

    Now Indonesia to begin imposing fines on those who refuse the covid-19 vaccine. Just how many of the citizens will end up in absolute penury, or, end up having it administered to escape such punishment/s. Who know what other punishments could be administered? People not allowed into shops to buy food? And this to force those in the population not vaccinated to come forward and receive it unwillingly. Other countries will be sure to follow that lead and quickly too.

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/indonesia-to-begin-imposing-fines-on-those-who-refuse-covid-vaccine

    March 4, 2021 at 8:47 pm
    • editor

      Theresa Rose,

      Logic would demand that people – in Indonesia and anywhere else in the world trying to force this vaccine – sit up and ask some hard questions, beginning with if this virus is mild in most people who become infected, and if most people recover from it, then what the heck is going on here? WHY must we be vaccinated?

      The problem is, people are (a) so terrified as a result of the worldwide Covid propaganda and (b) so in awe of medics and scientists that they will believe anything they’re told. It’s beyond belief.

      We should send some newspaper clippings of Dr Harold Shipman’s murderous career over to Indonesia. Might help to break that particular spell…

      It’s the Pope who’s infallible (and then only in very restricted circumstances) NOT any doctor or scientist.

      Gimme a break.

      March 4, 2021 at 11:22 pm

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