Is It Only “Anti-Vaxxers” Who Don’t Want To Take The Covid-19 Vaccine?
We’ve discussed the Covid-19 vaccine roll-out a number of times on this blog, most recently here and here
Our focus has been largely on the issue of the morality of taking an abortion-tainted vaccine.
I’m quite sure, though, that I will have expressed the concern which has been uppermost in my mind since the vaccine arrived on the scene – that these vaccines have been produced in such a rush that, by definition, they cannot possibly have been properly tested. It is for this reason that I will not accept any Covid-19 vaccine under any circumstances and despite the coercion underway, including via the label “anti-vaxxer”. I’m not against vaccination per se – truth to tell, I haven’t given the matter much thought. I just don’t want one that hasn’t been properly produced, and tested over time. Forcing medical procedures on populations is immoral and has been against international law since at least the end of the Second World War. So, no thanks… I’m not taking it… Thanks but no thanks…
The majority of Catholics who are expressing concern about these vaccines, however, limit their concerns to the question of the morality of accepting abortion-tainted vaccines. The fact that the Government is using us to participate in a medical experiment doesn’t seem to trouble many.
Below, an extract from my reply to one lady in England who has emailed me a number of times, very concerned about the abortion-tainted issue, but, apparently not aware of the danger of allowing herself to be part of the experiment. The extract below is from the most recent in a series of exchanges over time with this particular correspondent, who continues to puzzle over the Catholic position because she doesn’t fully understand the “remote co-operation” argument. I have explained to her that I am not in a position to engage in lengthy email exchanges (this blog was launched to cut down my emails) so I’m posting this thread, with the above links to our previous conversations, in an effort, firstly, to see if others may be able to clarify the Catholic position as it relates to abortion, and secondly to check how many, if any of you share my concerns about the fact that these vaccines are experimental…
Extract from my email to reader in England…
“…However, I return to my key point and it is this: anyone who takes a vaccine which has been rushed into production without due testing, in order to vaccinate an entire population of healthy individuals in the name of protecting them from a virus from which 99.97% (clear majority) recover, frankly, in my unvarnished opinion, deserve all they get.
They must understand that they are part of an experiment. Normally, vaccines are only released after a number of years once the effect on the patients have been assessed, and the types and numbers of side effects have been recorded, the number of deaths noted. Obviously, this is now an ongoing process – WE (or rather those who are stupid enough to take this vaccine) are part of the testing process. I’m emphasising this because I’m assuming that you are preoccupied with this issue because you are considering taking the vaccine and your only concern is the “abortion-tainted” issue. That is not MY issue. I will not be used for medical experiment. If a vaccine were being proposed which had been through the normal processes and tested over a period of years, THEN my issue would be the abortion-tainted issue. I am just stunned at the number of people I’m hearing about already who have taken the vaccine.
Listen, people of even minimal intelligence should be noticing the TV shots of people being vaccinated, followed by applause and expressions of delight. It takes a particular kind of stupid not to say ‘Whoa! Something is not quite right here…’ ” Ends.
Comment:
So, what is YOUR issue? IS it that these vaccines are abortion-tainted… Or is it the fact that you don’t want to be part of this medical experiment? Perhaps, though, you feel forced to take the vaccine for the sake of keeping your job, being allowed to travel etc? Over to thee…
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And bang on cue, this news has just come in from the Chinese Communist Party. Get it now, folks? It really isn’t about any virus… say “hello” to our new system of governance… totalitarianism…
https://clarion.causeaction.com/2021/03/10/china-urges-w-h-o-to-let-it-run-global-vaccine-passport-system-2/
O God, save us!!!
Margaret USA,
It becomes clearer by the nano-second that we are under the control of Chinese Communism.
ED we know the complete Evil of all of this, Bill Gates didn’t move his 100s of $ Billions from High Tech into Vaccines for the good of Our Health ( as he would have many fools Believe) The fact that he was actually caught on Video saying that He would wait his turn on down the Line before taking his Vaccine speaks Volumes. He is most welcome to mine . And am sometimes a Catholic Belinda is welcome to the so called second and third Shot . Then of course you have him saying that The Vaccine ( not His Vaccine which it really is ) will have to be given out Every Year . Got to keep those $ Billions flowing into his Coffers . Were His Vaccine safe to take both he and am sometimes a Catholic Belinda would be first in line . As for the Chinese the least said about them the better as when we talk of Evil and the C.C.P. their is no end to it . Of course that’s only an opinion. 🤔
Faith of our Fathers,
I remember that moment when Bill Gates was asked if he would take the vaccine. LOL!
Knowing that there is a fear of it out in the community, he would definitely have said “yes, I’ll take it asap” if only to stop people worrying. But no, he’ll “wait his turn”, so that means he won’t take it!
No wonder, because as far as I can see, all the results coming in are negative. People are often dying or having serious side-effects from these vaccines. See this report from Denmark, as an example of how we are taking the unknown into our bodies. It really is experimental. .
https://metro.co.uk/2021/03/11/denmark-suspends-oxford-covid-vaccine-as-patient-dies-with-blood-clot-14224751/
M. Mary he most certainly got caught short when he was asked that question . Al keep it clean and say He most certainly scored an Own Goal that day ,am sure He went out that night to count His Fortune as His Vaccine Company certainly went down a few points on Wall Street that day . Maybe that’s why we haven’t heard much Garbage from the Gates in the Last Few Weeks although hes probably just got past counting his first $ Billion . In the counting respect hes lucky as am sure that a Billion in the U.S.A is only 100 Million where in the U.K its 1000 Million .I of course stand to be corrected . The Gates should move to Britain especially now that the £ Pound seems to be performing so well .I wonder if when he sends up those Balloons into the Stratosphere he will Mix in His Vaccine with all the rubbish hes going to block the Sun out with . Could be a sort of Kill 2 Birds with the 1 Stone kind of thing .Of course am sure his Idiotic idea will kill a lot more than just 2 Birds ,if you get my drift .
Which worries me more? Being struck by a bus or being run over by a car? The simple binary question is a perfect example of bad questionnaire design.
Which worries me more? Cooperating with abortion or being an involuntary guinea pig? There is no sensible answer.
When answers are compiled what will be the result?
“People worry more about untested vaccine than abortion.”
OR
“People worry more about abortion than being given untested vaccines.”
Ask me “when did I stop beating my wife?”
This is not trivial. It is how governments and corporations seek to present public approval based on carefully designed and biased surveys, often using emotive language, and sometimes subtle and ambiguous wording.
Antoine,
I was waiting for that, from someone. It’s an obvious criticism. On the surface, you will seem to be correct, probably to most people. Not to me. Not to moi.
What some see as “bad questionnaire design” others will (hopefully) recognise as a means of taxing our thinking. That’s why there’s no third option in the poll. Although I do, occasionally, give a third option (often “a combination of the above”), when our webmaster set up the blog and voting poll, he expressed the view that I should stick with only two options because, he opined, any adult should be able to make a decision between two options. “They” say that an adult should be able to make a life-changing decision within a fortnight, so I think he was onto something there 😀
Of course, those who are going to take the vaccine will be outraged by the introduction. That, I understood when I wrote it.
Emotive language? Isn’t that what they say to denounce pro-lifers? Calling a baby a baby is emotive to the pro-abortionist – doesn’t make it less true that the person they are about to kill is a child. And it does force the proponents of this evil to face the facts.
You write: “there is no sensible answer” to the issue of which is more troubling: “co-ooperating with abortion or being an involuntary guinea pig…”
You don’t suggest “a sensible answer” – yet that is the decision facing those of us who are not blindly following the propaganda. Do we allow ourselves to be part of an experiment, using our bodies for the purpose of allowing scientists to further their knowledge, and having decided to do that, are we untroubled by the abortion connection. What other issue is there – apart from our freedom to decline, which is essentially tied to the above options.
Your examples knocking “binary choices” as “bad questionnaire design” are (to use your words) a “perfect example” of apples and oranges.
Faced with the choice of whether to be knocked down by a bus or a car, is to be faced with choosing between two evils from which there is no good outcome. Not taking part in a medical experiment is a good decision. It has a number of potentially good outcomes and no bad outcomes, since the Government has admitted that taking the vaccine is no guarantee that we won’t become infected with the virus – from which, anyway, the majority of us will recover. So, that’s a good outcome… Not to co-operate in the evil of abortion is a good thing, for self-evident reasons..
Personally, I am, of course, troubled at the prospect of co-operating with abortion but – because of my decision not to participate in this experimental vaccine there is no possibility that I will co-operate in the evil of abortion.
I don’t beat my wife 😀 But I do know that I will not take this vaccine because (1) am not willing to allow my body to be used in an experiment. Ergo,(2) I will not be co-ooperating in the evil of abortion.
There’s nothing “subtle” or “ambiguous” about that.
Antoine Bisset,
You are missing the point IMHO.
The choice being given by the government is binary. Take this vaccine or lose your freedom. So there has to be a hugely important reason to refuse to take this vaccine. There are two, and once you’ve taken the one, you have also taken the second.
If you refuse because you don’t want to take part in an experiment, then you are not helping the abortion industry, your conscience is clear. You have actually chosen not to co-operate in two evils – the evil of medical experiment on humans and the evil of abortion.
If you decide to take it because Pope Francis has broken with the traditional teaching of the Church on not co-operating with the evil of abortion, then you are suffering twice – by risking your body by donating it to science for an experiment, and by taking a vaccine tested or made using foetal material.
I don’t see the question as ambiguous at all because once I clicked “being experimented on” I was also refusing to co-operate with abortion.
I think the issue is for people who actually want to take the vaccine to be honest and just say that they don’t mind being used in an experiment and they don’t mind about the abortion material being used.
MM,
I agree with the majority of your comment but in that final paragraph I think there is an important distinction to be made – and it is this which prompted me to launch this thread.
For most people, it seems, the issue of being part of a medical/scientific experiment doesn’t seem to matter. It’s seldom raised. I’m sure I raised it in passing in our previous conversations but since the topic in previous threads was the issue of abortion-tainted vaccines and the Catholic conscience, we didn’t spend much, if any, time discussing it.
So, for the majority of Catholics it would appear that the issue of the vaccines being experimental, doesn’t matter. It seems that as long as they can be assured that it is not wrong to take abortion-tainted vaccines, they will go ahead and accept vaccination.
But that’s fine. You were right about everything else and nobody can possibly expect to be right about everything, when they’re not me 😀
Kennedy Hall discusses with Pam Acker about ‘Vaccine information for Catholics’. It lasts for one hour and looks the current Covid-19 vaccine and the dangers that can arise. The use of fetal cell lines are mentioned too, well into the discussion. She dangers express the dangers that can arise through this current vaccine.
Thank you Theresa Rose, I will watch that video later.
Theresa Rose,
I’ve now seen the Kennedy Report video and it’s very good – informative on various levels about vaccines and related matters, including, near the end, a short conversation about the use of aborted material.
What came to mind watching, though, is that I really must launch a thread on the annoyances of life in the 21st century… Here’s just a couple of those 21st century annoyances which distracted me during the interview…
1) drinking out of a bottle – water bottles seem to be a “must-have” accessory these days and I found it distracting to see the interviewer drinking out of his bottle of what I assume (in charity!) is water, throughout the conversation. Whatever happened to drinking out of a glass? If absolutely necessary – who needs water every two minutes? If there’s a health reason for this, obviously that’s different but it appears to have become a kind of fashion.
2) beginning sentences with “So…” – driveth me crazy! It seldom has any link to the previous sentence or question…
EXAMPLE…
I believe you’ve just been over to Scotland on holiday – what was the weather like?
So, I was in Scotland last week and there was weather… DUH!
There’s plenty more where that came from so I’m resolved to put together a brief introduction on that topic to see if I stand alone in my opinion about 21st century annoyances. And anyway, we’re due some light relief… 😀
PS a little while later – I was very surprised to hear Kennedy Hall apparently believing the propaganda about the vaccine roll-out to protect the elderly. That really did surprise me. As I’ve said more than once, this same Government which is claiming concern for the elderly, as being so vulnerable they need to be vaccinated first to protect them, is the same Government which would euthanise us all in a heartbeat if they could only get their Assisted Dying and Euthanasia bills through Parliament. I’m just amazed that more people do not make this link. Am I a genius or what?
Editor,
I know what you mean about drinking out of the bottle, it would have been better if Kennedy Hall had a glass of water instead. Perhaps he suffers from a dry throat and therefore needs to drink plenty of fluids.
As to the Assisted Dying and Euthanasia bill, I suspect the Government would be happy to see that passed. The elderly are living too long in the minds of some people. But, the likes of Bill Gates would like see a big reduction of the world’s population within the near future.
But we do not know the long term effects of this vaccine. Yes there have been a number who have died, and others who have suffered adverse reactions. But in the next couple of years what will show up then?
You are right about the propaganda about the vaccine roll out and the elderly getting it first. Maybe the Government are hopeful that the elderly will have a shorter time on earth.
Editor,
As a student of American butchering of the English language, I thought you might be interested in this: New Yorkers, when they are about to make a wisecrack or pose a smart-aleck question, start off with “So uh…..”
For example: “So uh…is that an Easter hat on your head or a bird’s nest?”
As for drinking bottled water, I like to drink out of a fire hose myself…
For me, the issue is primarily one of abortion. These vaccines are either tested on aborted foetal cells or actually made from a line of aborted foetal cells. Also there is the guinea pig aspect. No-one knows about the long term effects on health. These vaccines simply have not been tested fully and signed off as safe. All my concerns neatly summed up here by the European Medicines Agency https://www.pro-memoria.info/summary-of-characteristics-of-pfizer-moderna-and-astrazeneca-products-ema-documents
WF,
“Also there is the guinea pig aspect. No-one knows about the long term effects on health”
Exactly. I believe one “off propaganda message” doctor is on record as saying that it will take about 14 months or so before we seen an increase in deaths among those who were vaccinated.
I’m already hearing of people within my circle of friends who are going to have to take the vaccine or lose their jobs. This coercion should really alert everyone to the fact that there is something really sinister going on here – one minute telling us that most people recover from the virus, that the vaccine is no guarantee of not becoming infected, no guarantee of a cure, yet you MUST have it or lose your freedoms, and even your job.
It does, I keep saying, take a particular kind of stupid to continue to go along with this scam – a “pandemic” which is nothing more than a means of keeping us under control until our new form of government – totalitarianism – is embedded and we have accepted it.
That EMA report says that efficacy and safety tests may be known by 31st May 2022 . . .
WF,
I rest my case 😀
Westminster Fly,
That is a solid reason for refusing to take this vaccine. I have conscience objections anyway due to the use of aborted tissue, but even if a vaccine was rushed through not using aborted tissue, I still wouldn’t take it because of the lack of proof that it is safe.
Editor,
“…it will take about 14 months or so before we seen an increase in deaths among those who were vaccinated.”
…which brings to mind…
Various nations will be annihilated…
JUST IN – IMPORTANT NEWS FOR SCOTLAND…
From the Christian Institute…
(To Email List…)
Please pray for the success of a legal challenge over the ban on church worship in Scotland. Hearings are being held today and tomorrow in the Court of Session in Edinburgh.
A judicial review is being sought by a group of 27 church leaders with the help of Andrea Williams of the Christian Legal Centre.
This is a very important case. It has the potential to help gospel freedom throughout the UK.
Can I urge you to pray for its success?
Scotland is the only part of the UK where there is a ban on congregational worship. The legal challenge is about whether this is lawful. A ruling could bring clarity to situations where politicians across the UK have at various times closed down church worship without proper justification or public health evidence.
In Scotland the suspension on worship might end on 26 March, but from then on there will be an arbitrary limit of no more than 50 worshippers, irrespective of how large the church is.
We are praying for God to bless this case because of the vital principles involved.
Yours in Christ,
Colin Hart
Director
The Christian Institute
The legal issues at stake
• Whilst the challenge is to the current lockdown in Scotland, the outcome will have implications for any future attempt to ban public worship in Scotland or other parts of the UK.
• The judicial review involves vital questions about whether the blanket closure of churches for public worship is constitutional under Scots law and whether it is a breach of the European Convention on Human Rights. Nothing is more fundamental to religious freedom than the legal right to worship collectively. The gathering of the saints is essential to what it means to be a church.
• Churches accept the need for risk assessment and thorough safety measures. The blanket closure of churches is not a proportionate response.
• Although the Scottish Government has announced an expected date for the reopening of places of worship, it is critical that the courts are able to determine whether the current lockdown is lawful. Ends.
Editor,
That’s very good news about the judicial ruling on churches being held today and tomorrow in Edinburgh. I hope we get a ruling to stop these closures happening any more. Chris Whitty has said “the pandemic is not over”, trying to throw cold water on the easing of lockdown restrictions, so I think we’re on a see-saw and this will keep happening, opening up and closing down everything, churches included, unless the ruling forbids that.
The degree to which people are willing to put their lives in the hands of people with medical credentials and white lab coats is truly appalling. But, they have been conditioned since a young age, and/or since the birth of their children, that vaccines are the key to immunity and good health, and that doctors are to be trusted.
In fact, “Did you get your shot yet?” is now the conversation opener among those of the golden years. It is thought of as some sort of badge of honor, proof that you care about your neighbor, proof of your desire to get back to normal.
In fact, it is proof of nothing but the failure to think and look up facts. To take it even further, it is proof that those who are lining up for this are being useful idiots. The tyrants and their mouthpieces have already admitted that there will be no going back to “normal.” In fact, they are proud to to proclaim it!
This is not a badge of honor, it is the mark of the beast, or a precursor of it. Moreover, it is not even a vaccine, since it doesn’t protect you from anything. The mRNA shots are nothing but a genetic modification experiment – in fact, as I’m sure our bloggers know, Moderna even calls its shot an “operating system.”
So what we have here is actually genocide on a global scale. A double evil: child sacrifice on a global scale, and now adult sacrifice, constructed from child sacrifice, on a global scale.
But back to the mark of the beast: this is being set up so that we will not be able to buy or sell, or work, or eat, without proof of vaccination. If that’s not the mark of the beast, then I don’t know what is. I don’t recall anyone suspecting that the mark of the beast could be something like this, but it seems obvious to me.
RCA Victor,
I totally agree with you all the way. The whole way people are televised taking the vaccine and putting thumbs up and saying they are so pleased etc. is so unusual that it’s beyond belief that more people are not seeing that as suspicion and even sinister.
Editor,
I do wonder, though if you were calling that women who emailed you, “stupid” and a “particular kind of stupid”. Surely not?
Michaela,
You have gotta be kidding me! No way is the lady with whom I’ve been in correspondence about vaccines “stupid” let alone “a particular kind of stupid”. Not at all. On the contrary, she is a very intelligent woman, who has been digging deep into all the sources available to make sure that she understands the Catholic position on the Covid-19 vaccine.
In fact, even as I replied to her I remembered that way back she had decided not to take the vaccine but she’s a holy terror for getting into conversations with doubting Thomases, and – trying to do her apostolic duty – she seeks to inform others, who then, in turn, demand more evidence that Catholics should not take the vaccine. Which is where my unworthy self comes into the picture and has proven to be as much use in clarifying the issues as a broken mobile phone in an emergency.
Indeed, she has confirmed today that she is determined not to take the vaccine (I sent her the link to this thread this morning) and – thankfully – she has not misinterpreted my use of “stupid” etc. Or, if she has, she’s offered it up as a Lenten penance 😀
Of course, what I published here is only part of the email and – again – part of a series of emails on the subject, so be assured that my references to idiocy were not personally addressed to that lovely lady.
I hope I also made clear in my introductory comment that I’m aware (from my own circle of friends, indeed) that there are some people who desperately do not want to take the vaccine but who are in a dilemma because their jobs are on the line. A good friend told me only yesterday that her son – who is fully informed about the way this virus is being used for sinister purposes by the world’s elite – has been told by his boss that if he doesn’t take the vaccine he will have to look elsewhere for employment. This is real evil with which we are dealing.
Be assured, then, that my “stupid” remarks were not directed at my lovely correspondent but, frankly, at those (especially in my own age group) who have fallen for the nonsense that we have a duty to be vaccinated to protect everyone else.
The idea, too, that the NHS / Government is rolling out the vaccine, elderly first, to protect the elderly is a joke. This is the same Government / NHS who would euthanise us in a heartbeat if they could only get the legislation through. Incredible that the majority of the population can’t see it.
To use our well known Scottish Phrase you are spot on Victor .Of course it is the Mark of The Beast .Now what next from Billy Gates and Co a chip inserted into the back of our hand to be scanned by the Authorities to say we have had The Vaccine .The Chinese aren’t rolling out 5 G fast enough .Of course the Chip like the Vaccine will need to be replaced on a yearly basis . Josef Mengele medicine is back in a Big Way .
Can someone answer this for me: re the the Beast in the Book of Revelations: are Catholics obliged to believe in Revelations, as they must believe in New Testament?
Mary,
I think you will find Taylor Marshall good on this topic.
Lily,
I’ve now watched that Taylor Marshall video – excellent. Many thanks for posting it.
Many thanks Lily. I’ve just watched it and it gives me a much clearer understanding of some of these scriptural passages which, I have to admit, I previously never knew what to make of, or paid attention to.
God save us from the appalling future we’re threatened with. The globalist demons want our minds and souls as well as bodies. They’ve already gone far with mind conditioning or behavioural psychology, with putting evil in peoples’ heads , foreheads so to speak. eg brutalizing the police and creating scapegoats for example.
If they ever develop A1 Technology ( i think that’s the term) God help us even more. Lets hope they dont ever see their way clear to doing that
Mary,
I am sure the video which Lily posted will be helpful – I’ve not had time to watch it but Marshall seems to be well versed, so to speak, in Scripture scholarship. Myself, not so much, but here are a few words on the subject from my limited knowledge. If I get anything wrong, feel free to correct me, those of you who know better. I’ll be grateful.
Yes, we must believe the entirety of Sacred Scripture, that it is the inspired word of God, and that it is inerrant. There are no errors in Scripture. It contains Divine Revelation.
But that does not mean that we take every word literally. Our Lord told us that we should cut off our limbs, pluck out our eyes, if they cause us to sin, but He absolutely did not mean us to take His words literally here. He used hyperbole – a type of exaggeration to emphasise his meaning. As when He said we must hate our mother and father – not in the literal sense given the meaning which we associate with the word “hate”.
Similarly, the Apocalypse is a complex book with various layers of meaning. It is certainly NOT meant to be taken literally. Some events refer to things happening at the time of writing, some refer to the future, but given the obscure nature of the prophecies, we cannot attribute specific events today, to past prophecies, or apparent prophecies. The key prophetic message of the Apocalypse is that there will be sufferings and tribulations for the faithful throughout history, but the Church will triumph in the end, we must persevere. It is, in other words, the same essential message that runs through the entire Old and New Testaments, at one level or another, as God’s plan of salvation is gradually revealed.
Thus, remembering that certain events may refer to contemporary society at the time of writing, “the Beast” may refer to the Roman Empire, and the persecution of Christians at that time.. Other interpretations have “the Beast” as a false prophet.
I had to respond to an email query about the Apocalypse/Revelations some months back – below my response, for your interest.
EMAIL….
Hi,
I have no recollection of any mention of the red heifer in the Book of Revelation – it is mentioned in various Old Testament books in relation to the re-building of the Temple – which will happen when the “perfect” red heifer is born.
I think of the red heifer as similar to the Hebrews’ custom of expelling a goat into the desert, symbolically taking the sins of the people on itself (hence the term “scapegoat”).
In any event, the Book of Revelation/Apocalypse is not meant to be interpreted literally. Not knowing about the red heifer/exact date of the end times, won’t keep any of us out of Heaven! Deo gratias!
Personally, I cannot understand the preoccupation so many people have with trying to interpret the Apocalypse, keen to see if we are in the end times! There is such a (misguided) curiosity about this, right now. Yet, the Catholic way (you are correct) is to live in the knowledge that the end of time for each one of us may come at any moment! That’s scary enough, surely! Ends.
Never mind the red heifer, the main preoccupation these days seems to be with “the Beast” – I really do not understand the curiosity about this subject. It’s self-evidently a difficult book to read and understand, because so much of it may refer to the situation at the time of writing, so much is allegorical but when it is all boiled down, we are left with the key Christian message to prepare to suffer for the Faith and take comfort in the knowledge that Christ and His Church will triumph in the end.
What else do we need to know? 😀
Many thanks all who responded. What you say confirms what I thought was the case.
PS I must add that I did know it was not to be taken literally! What you did clarify for me, as I needed, was that we must believe the entirety of Scripture even if not in a literal way; you see, I was not sure about the apocalyptic writing . Many thanks.
Mary,
That’s good – glad to have been of some help, but I would urge you to watch the Taylor Marshall video which Lily posted above – it is really excellent, grounded in sound scholarship and Taylor Marshall has the gift of being able to explain it all in a simple, easy to understand way.
Me? I just pass the “simple” test – say nothing 😀
It was extremely interesting and gave me some idea about these writings which did totally puzzle me, so much so that I paid little attention to them. But how true that essentially , as you say ,”the Catholic way … is to live in the knowledge that the end of time for each one of us may come at any moment! ”
I think the idea of the Mark of the Beast does set the public imagination going and they actually enjoy speculating about it!
Looking up a PDF document called “America’s Frontline Doctors White Paper On Experimental Vaccines For COVID-19” will give readers lots of important basic information, including the inescapable FACT: these shots are experimental.
Here is the Table of Contents:
Executive Summary……………………………………………………………..……….1
FAQs………………………………………………………………………………………2
I. COVID-19: Policy Myths……………………………………………………………….4
II. COVID-19 Medical Myths: Low Infection Fatality Ratio (IFR)……………………..10
III. COVID-19 Experimental Vaccines Trials……………………………………………11
IV. COVID-19 Experimental Vaccines Controversies…………………………………..13
Brand New Technology
Failure of Previous Coronavirus Vaccines
No Ani mal Studies
Known Complications
Unknown Complications
Pharmaceutical Companies are Immune from All Liability
An Experimental Vaccine is Not Safer than a Very Low IFR
No Proof the Vaccine Stops Transmission of the Virus
Unknown Mortality or Hospital Admission Benefit
The Vaccine Lasts Unknown Duration
The Data Has Not Been Independently Peer-Reviewed & Published
V. EXPERIMENTAL COVID-19 Vaccines………………………………………….….17
VI. COVID-19 Experimental Vaccines & Antibody- Enhancement…………………….18
VII. COVID-19 Experimental Vaccines & Other Known Problems…………………….21
VIII. COVID-19 Experimental Vaccines & Other Unknown or New Problems………..23
IX. Pharmaceutical Companies Conflict of Interests………………………………….…25
X. Experimental Vaccines & Legal Issues for Patients .…………………………………25
XI. COVID-19 Experimental Vaccines & Unusual Processes…..………………………27
XII. AFLDS Recommendations Regarding Experimental Covid-19 Vaccines……….…32
XIII. Call To Action………………………………………………………………………33
RCA Victor,
That is some list! I have made a note of this one, in particular:
The Vaccine Lasts Unknown Duration
That is why the government is now telling us we need to get the vaccine every year, just like the other flu vaccine.
There is no way I will be part of such an experiment. I just wish more people would waken up to what it means to be part of this experiment, with the unknown complications and the other things on that Frontline Doctors list.
I want to see people held accountable for this in court, just like the Nazis after the war. It was because of the shocking experiments carried out by Hitler’s Dr Mengele that it was made illegal to experiment on people using medical procedures. https://allthatsinteresting.com/josef-mengele.
It’s amazing that people are not interpreting this vaccine roll-out for what it is – another social experiment on whole populations.
Michaela,
I’m glad you mentioned the Nazis. In my “conspiracy theory” readings over the years, I’ve come across several authors and websites that make this point: the Nazis we defeated in WWII, and the Nazis we put on trial at Nuremberg, were only the tip of the iceberg. Those Luciferian secret societies which gave birth to the Nazis (and the Nazis were heavily into the occult) were untouched. The proof is in the scam-demic/universal vaccination/health passport pudding, as it were.
This is the same evil that Dr. Mengele was doing in the concentration camps. It is the Luciferian agenda resurfaced. Only the names and the technology have changed.
RCA Victor,
Both of your posts today on this topic are A1 ++++++
Or, put another way… 😀
https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/exceptional-check-box-red-pen-over-rating-survey-tick-placed-44378551.jpg
I have a number of reasons for not having this jab. Apart from reasons identical to the Editor’s :
I understand that the evil vaccine passport project could be seriously derailed if there is under 80% uptake for the jab; this could well be, although our enemies are so evil that if we didn’t volunteer they’d force us. I’m certainly not going to fall over myself to collaborate in their evil plan.
I was part of the NO2ID campaign over a decade ago which we won at the time but knew the threat hadn’t gone away permanently ; sure enough it’s back in the form this time of the vacpass. So I’m familiar with the horrors we’re threatened with here. Plus the vacpass would lead into the evil Chinese communist party style social credit system.
Then there is the totally evil nature of those pushing it, which means I want no dealings with them; the more dishonest they are, the more they they bully us , the more determined I am to push back, as I would be with any snake oil salesman.
It’s certainly a huge marketing scam and part of a power grab ; we don’t even need the jab which is all about power and profits and definitely not for our benefit ; a common marketing ploy is to create a need that doesn’t exist.
And people wont just be one-time guinea pigs: they’ll be forcibly experimented on on a regular basis year after year for the rest of their lives. It’s a crime against humanity and human dignity, treating people as if they were nothing more than lab rats.
Mary, i joined the No2ID campaign too. I liked the little song they had, it was rather catchy and funny at bits with one not very nice bit at the end. Pity!
I think they will use this covid situation to re-introduce it.
I am interested if anyone know where we can get hold of the list of allergies and exemptions for these vaccine. I heard that having an allergy to penicillin is an exemption to the vaccine but I wondered if there is an official list on the matter.
Let’s see if this image posts:
http://whistleblower-newswire.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/image049.jpg
This cartoon: well that’s it exactly.Hits the nail on the head.
Mary,
Except the shot goes in to the arm!
That’s a Cracker Victor. Funny, but unfortunately True.
PS The communist collectivist mindset will represent evil things being presented as “for the greater good.” This will increasingly in the future be used to “justify” trampling on constitutional and moral and legal rights and all sorts of abominations. Like forcing people to be guinea pigs. .
If the majority accepted the jab , refuseniks could easily be picked upon and scapegoated as being “selfish” and working against the “greater good.”
We need to work against this. Refusing the jab is a first step. Although the “greater good” collectivist “argument” will doubtless be used in future to force other abominations upon us.
I’m not making myself too clear re this last point, but I hope you see what I mean.
The overall picture and a saintly Priest to intercede for us all.
http://www.dioezesanarchiv-berlin.de/lichtenberg/english2/
https://www.rehumanizeintl.org/post/fetal-cells-in-the-cosmetics-food-and-medical-industries
https://remnantnewspaper.com/web/index.php/fetzen-fliegen/item/5298-vaccines-and-the-vatican-why-doesn-t-francis-care
https://edwardpentin.co.uk/women-doctors-pro-life-activists-call-for-resistance-to-abortion-tainted-vaccines/
Having read the Dr. Mengele link provided by Michaela, as well as several other sites about the “Angel of Death,” I came across something which may explain the lack of universal resistance to these shots:
“Doctors have always been thought of as the saviors of mankind, the healers, and caretakers of our utter existence. Even ancient civilizations revered the medicine men as having special power to protect life. The trust of a physician is sacred.”
https://remember.org/educate/medexp
Memo to doctors and other medical practitioners: by denying or covering up the true nature of these sinister shots, you are well into the process of completely destroying trust in you and in your profession. The sick are your patients, NOT YOUR VICTIMS.
RCA Victor,
Well said – I think that is what is happening, doctors are losing the trust of patients. I speak for myself, definitely – I have a completely different view of doctors and nurses now. I do not trust them as I did before these lockdowns. If they were all standing up to this, it wouldn’t be happening.
CBR UK
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While each individual cell line contains the cells of just one baby, many aborted babies are used in the process of creating a cell line. For example, under oath, scientist Stanley Plotkin admitted that there were 76 aborted babies used in just one vaccine study.
The name HEK 293 stands for a Human Embryonic Kidney from the 293rd experiment — we can be confident that many more babies preceded the final baby, Johanna*, used for HEK 293.
Despite all that, even if it was just one baby, should we benefit from the intentional killing and organ harvesting of just one baby? Or should we have no part of it?
👉SET REMINDER for debate “Should Christians accept vaccines which use fetal cell lines?”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xU94NPLwfXU
👉SIGN PETITION to demand ethical vaccines: https://www.cbruk.org/ethicalvaccines
*name given as unknown
#DontForgetJohanna #OrganHarvesting #EthicalVaccines
Wendy Walker,
That is all very interesting. They are lying, then, who have claimed that only one aborted foetus was used in the making of these vaccines, but anyway, as you say, one aborted baby is one too many and we cannot, in conscience, benefit from such deaths.
Now Bill Gates is getting Covid-19 bail out money because 10 countries have stopped the vaccine being given to their populations. He will be happy by this increase of his wealth, but, suspect he is an unhappy man in those people not being vaccinated. He is a sad and pitiable man.
10 countries have stopped the rollout of the Covid-19 vaccine to their population. Bill Gates has been given bailout money because of it.
He is obscenely wealthy as it is. But he is determined to have everyone receive it on a global basis, he is a very sad man.
Madame Editor,
Vaccines assist our God-given immune systems to fight off infections. The COVID injections are not true vaccines. They are designed to operate independently of our immune systems – a man-made experiment on us, as you and others have pointed out.
As a child, I was immunised against measles, chicken-pox and mumps. Once. And for a lifetime. Why should I need an annual flu jab, and dare I say it, an annual COVID jab?
With 99.97% chance of recovery from COVID, relying only on my natural immune system, for what good reason would I agree to be experimented on with a concoction which cannot be removed from my blood stream and which might, in the long term, lead to my premature demise due to factors not yet perceived or, more sinisterly, not yet revealed to an unsuspecting population?
As for those brain dead “woke” people who accuse me of being selfish for not having accepted the jab and thereby endangering the lives of others, I refer them to the 99.97% statistic, and point out to them that safeguarding my own health is more important to me than protecting the health of A. N. Other who is not in danger of dying anyway. Furthermore, I have the SSPX flyer on Protection against Epidemics and I wear a Miraculous Medal so I have supernatural protection, which comes as something of a shock to the “woke” people.
Let us all pray that the “woke” people will not prevail upon the Government to introduce COVID “passports” which disregard our human rights and render us “outlaws” in society!
Leprechaun,
Very well said, and thank you very much for reminding us of the importance of that supernatural protection.
Reminds me of a Catholic neighbour who – during the first lockdown- answered another neighbour who had noticed that she didn’t appear on her doorstep to “clap for carers” on Thursday evenings. My Catholic neighbour replied that, instead, she knelt down and said a Hail Mary for the carers, which would do them much more good than a burst of applause.
Game set and match!
This video is a doctor speaking very knowledgeably about the Covid vaccines – she stresses that they have not been tested and are only authorised as an “emergency” – she says that WE are the experiment. This is very worth watching right through – it’s less than half an hour.
Josephine,
I agree that Doctor Tenpenny is speaking knowledgeably about the Covid-19 vaccine, and is authorised for emergency use. Yes, and we are the experiment.
This article caught my attention this morning and it seems to me that the battle lines are now being drawn. That the tech industry did its part during the holocaust during World War II. We know of the concentration camps and many who were sent and died there, in the gas chambers. Also the experiments by Doctor Mengele upon twins. It was a wonder how people survived such torments at the end of that war. Never again it was said.
https://yournews.com/2021/03/11/2056209/same-tech-industry-that-powered-holocaust-computational-machines-now-backing/
Forced compliance to receive the vaccine might not be that far off now.
Madame Editor,
Following my earlier post (March 13th) and my reference to Protection against the Epidemic, readers who may not have access to a source for the actual flyer are invited to download a copy from
https://www.mi-bookshop.uk/epidemic-flyer.pdf
which prints on the two sides of an A4 page. Having read it, they need to wear a blessed Miraculous Medal in order to enjoy the protection it offers against epidemics such as Covid-19.
Flyers and pre-blessed Medals should be available at the Militia Immaculatae Corners in SSPX Chapels and Mass centres, and a donation of 50 pence would be appreciated, but for those without access, be assured that getting the message is more important than a donation.
God bless the work.
Here is a video that came into my inbox today. it is a doctor who specialises in developing vaccines and has said that these covid vaccines are highly dangerous. He has put his career at risk by saying what he has said.
https://www.brighteon.com/257797f0-06fa-4596-be69-af71bb3adc21
This video is from Dr. G. Vanden Bossche. I believe this is the doctor mentioned in my post above. It is the same doctor.
There is a petition on Lifesitenews – rejecting so-called “vaccine passports” and at the moment has at least 83,000 signatures.
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/lifesites-petition-against-vaccine-passports-goes-viral?utm_source=must_reads
Heaven helps us all if and when these passports will be forced upon us. The Consecration of Russia is long overdue.
Sorry I’ve been posted missing this past week, I have 300ft of fencing to paint along with numerous other garden preparation tasks that are taking up most of my time – and energy!!
Just thought I’d pop in and post this link to my latest article in the Remnant. It has already been posted on the CT blog but adapted for the Remnant if anyone is interested. Everyone needs to know this information, so it pays to repeat!
https://remnantnewspaper.com/web/index.php/fetzen-fliegen/item/5316-flawed-sspx-advice-on-abortion-tainted-vaccines
Athanasius,
Many thanks for posting your article from The Remnant.
I only hope they’re not paying you big bucks over there, since your contract with Catholic Truth is non-negotiable…
https://www.qccartoon.com/images/cartoons/3_1_7.jpg
Editor
Fear not, my contract with the Remnant is non-existent!
Keep praying for the voices of truth:
https://richardsonpost.com/john-osullivan/21064/aussie-navy-in-covid-jab-cover-up-after-mass-adverse-reactions/
RCA Victor,
That is very interesting indeed. Australia and China are not exactly best friends, to put it mildly. Very recently, Andrew Bolt of Sky News Australia was issuing warnings about the danger of war with China so this is – as I say – very interesting indeed.
The laughable thing is this; the excuse for the repeated lockdowns is “we need to be cautious, not take chances” but the UK is not taking the same approach to the vaccine rollout. Any adverse reactions – including deaths caused by blood clots after vaccination – are being passed off as “would have happened anyway.” That same rationale was not allowed to be applied to deaths “with Covid” – people with serious underlying conditions in old age who would probably have died anyway, once they were within a million miles of a Covid infection, it was obvious that they had died as a result of “the virus”. Or so said “the experts”. Yes, “following the science” is keeping us imprisoned in our homes indefinitely. Well, not me. I’m following my instinct to cling on to my cherished personal freedoms.
In summary, when dealing with devious people doing evil, the only protection is supernatural. Pray!
The Westminster Parliament, following an e-petition, has debate Vaccine Passports – you can watch the debate below…
Walmart intending to offer immunity passports to those who take the covid-19 vaccine, I presume at one of their stores. This probably means no jab, no vaccine passport, no entry into any Walmart Store.
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/walmart-to-offer-immunity-passport-to-customers-who-take-covid-vaccine-jab
At last the powers that be have admitted that THE SO CALLED CONTRACEPTIVE KILL PILL DOES CAUSE BLOOD CLOTS ……for decades they have given it to children stating its safe and of course beside decimating healthy Populations it is safe to use
NOW we hear THE ASTRAZENICA IS SAFER THAN THE KILL PILL
Who remembers wonderful MRS VICTORIA GILLICK ?….again decades ago when she took on deadly Brook Advisory giving so called contraceptives to Girls under 16 …this will come back to haunt them heres our chance to speak out pro life people thank you
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9367287/AstraZeneca-Women-likely-develop-blood-clots-taking-contraceptive-pills-vaccine.html
Wendy,
Many thanks for that information – dynamite.
I met Victoria Gillick some years ago – she did really terrific work in exposing the way young girls were being groomed to take the contraceptive pill. She withstood the awful pressure from the media – now she’s being proved right, in a number of ways.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-9383937/There-one-medicine-definitely-comes-risk-blood-clots.html……..please read comments
Thank you dear Editor even though it has taken decades it has proved the real danger of these so called contraceptives think of all the deaths and others left with serious life changing illness through these noxious substances and of course the impact on The Environment through all these hormones in our water tables ……deformed Fishes and infertility in our young Men I ask well plea people to share this widely and also it shows just how right The CATHOLIC CHURCH was in its Teaching of no artificial so called contraception
Here is practical advice for the employed who are bullied by No Jab No Job bullying:
https://thelightpaper.co.uk/assets/pdf/The-Light-Issue-7-Final.pdf
If you scroll down link ; article re re no jab no job; employees rights: What employees should do to protect themselves, 3 steps : Rather than rolling over and complying, consider;
1 Require of employer a risk- benefit analysis. (there wont be one)
2 Require to see what insurance employer has for say vaccine damage to an employee (they won’t have it).
3 employee should serve employer with Notice of Liability.
See article for details
Mary,
That’s brilliant – thanks for that! I’ll spread the word – I have relatives who don’t want the jab but are terrified of losing their job.
Here’s Jon Rappoport…
“The Guardian: “Several European countries have halted using the Oxford/AstraZeneca Covid vaccine…”
The Guardian has a brand new definition of “several.” Their own article lists the following nations: Austria, Estonia, Latvia, Luxembourg, Lithuania, Romania, Denmark, Norway, Iceland, The Netherlands, Ireland, Germany, France, Italy, Spain, Slovenia, Cyprus, Sweden.
Bulgaria and Thailand have also stopped the jab.
The reason for the “pause?” A “small” number of people have developed blood clots.
And now, as I write this, the Wall St. Journal is reporting that European Union medical regulators have decided everything is OK—“the benefits of the shots outweigh the risks.” Standard boilerplate language for: “we don’t have to explain the vaccine injuries or deaths.”
If you believe just a few people with blood clots caused 20 countries to stop giving the jabs, I have condos on Mars for sale.
Hidden behind the firewall of the vaccine establishment, MANY people are keeling over.
And why wouldn’t they? Governments and pharma companies have rushed a new experimental RNA technology into use, for the first time in history. Prior to the COVID injection, all attempts to force approval of RNA tech had failed; dangerous and deadly over-reaction of the immune system was the reason.”
https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2021/03/22/vaccine-twenty-countries-suspend-injections-does-that-make-you-hesitant/
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9396631/EU-regulators-probing-Pill-blood-clots-linked-AstraZenecas-Covid-vaccine.html
The following Twitter Feed arrived in my inbox this morning – the reader thinks it might be of interest to CT bloggers…
https://mythreadreader.com/RealJoelSmalley/1374690032221556738
Archbishop Vigano has written a letter titled Truth over Fear: Covid-19, the vaccine and the Great Reset.
https://www.aldomariavalli.it/2021/03/25/monsignor-vigano-truth-over-fear-covid-19-the-vaccine-and-the-great-reset/
This pseudo pandemic serves to create the Great Reset to ease the transition from Christianity to the Kingdom of the Antichrist.
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