6pm Curfew for Men to Keep Women Safe: is there no end to feminist madness? Er… Not Really!editor
From the YouTube platform…
The issue of women’s safety has been again thrust into the spotlight following the disappearance of 33-year-old Ms Everard as she walked home to Brixton from her friend’s home in Clapham, south-west London, on March 3. Met Commissioner Cressida Dick revealed last night that human remains were found in the week-long search for the marketing executive in woodland near Ashford in Kent [Ed: these remains have now been identified as Sarah Everard RIP]. Speaking in the House of Lords last night Baroness Evans said: ‘In the week that Sarah Everard was abducted and, we suppose, killed-because remains have been found in a woodland in Kent – I argue that, at the next opportunity for any Bill that is appropriate, I might put in an amendment to create a curfew for men on the streets after 6 pm. I feel this would make women a lot safer, and discrimination of all kinds would be lessened.’
Firstly, our sincere sympathy is extended to the family of Sarah Everard. This is a huge suffering for them, suffering increased by the knowledge that the person arrested on suspicion of this crime is a serving police officer.
Seriously, though – a 6pm curfew for men in order to keep women safe? There’s really nothing left for April 1st, now, is there?
Meanwhile, north of the border, Scotland’s appalling Hate Crime Bill was passed today. One critic stated that “… it will make Scotland one of the most hostile places for freedom of expression in Europe” – click here to read more
There’s the above madness, and then there’s another kind of madness. Irritating changes in the use of language which have crept in over a period of time and which drive some of us – namely me and moi – crazy. Not just the terms themselves, which are bad enough, but the speed with which they are replaced by other equally annoying words and phrases.
No sooner had I become accustomed to “political correctness” than it was replaced by the nonsensical “woke”. Then there’s “toxic” – everything, but everything is “toxic” – have you noticed? “Cool” is another one. It used to refer to the weather, but now it means “great news” or “clever” or “with it”… whatever. It no longer refers to the weather – that’s my point…
“You guys” is another irritant. During my visit to America some years ago, a group of us visited a café where we met with the usual “what can I get you guys?” When the waitress had departed, by which I mean gone to deliver our orders, not departed from the planet, one of my friends told me that she shared that particular annoyance and that she once asked a waiter: “Do I look like a guy?” I’d be afraid to try that in case I got the wrong answer.
My other major complaint is about the way “So” is no longer used as a linking word, to connect ideas, but as a sentence starter, or what we used to call “a filler”. Instead of saying “Em…well… and answering”, it’s now “So…” And nearly always it is unconnected to what has gone before.
Q Do you think the Hate Crime Bill passed in Scotland today, will threaten free speech? [obvious answer “yes” or “no”]
A So, yes – or – So, no….
Do you see where I’m going with this? Tell us, in the comments below if you have your own personal list of irritating 21 century words, phrases or whatever – just do NOT begin your comment with “So”! Throw in your thoughts about the idea of a 6pm curfew for men as well, and tell us what you think about the Scottish Hate Crime Bill. Ask yourself… So – 😀 are we, or are we not, living in truly crazy times? 😀
Tell you what, Ed: I think a curfew would be useful if applied to Muslim men, who seem to have a penchant for raping teen-aged girls…oops, was that a hate crime? Thought crime?
In fact, what do you suppose will happen if it turns out that poor woman was murdered by a Muslim?
As for phrases that get under my skin, anything from the PC lexicon fits that bill, esp. inclusive and diverse. Those two words always seem to be prominently featured in corporate press releases and policy statements, as they cast their required incense before the New World Odor…I mean Order…
It was an English reader (who lives in England!) who alerted me to the passing of the Hate Crime Bill. He emailed: I heard Scotland passed the Hate Crime Bill today. Shocking. This means the next troll you disagree with on the blog could get you shut down.
So, I’ll pass on commenting on your theory about Muslim men – not least because our Justice Minister is a Muslim and a member of the SNP. Here he is, pictured wearing a tartan tie…
I’ll need to check to make sure because it may have been removed, but last I heard this Bill discussed, the above pictured Minister for Justice was defending that part of it which can see someone prosecuted for something they’ve said in their own home. Terrifying tyranny. Come back
Mel GibsonWilliam Wallace – we need you… again!
Your first two paragraphs would, I think, be considered offences under the Bill that passed the Scottish Parliament yesterday. It’s utterly bizarre.
But it’s not just Scotland. The man at the top of the Welsh Government, says he would consider bringing in a curfew for men as a temporary measure!
We are way beyond “diabolical disorientation” now – I just don’t know what to call it, LOL!
I agree that RCA Victor’s first two paragraphs would be offences under this scandalous Bill but I think the only way we will overcome this woke culture, which is nothing except bullying, is to ignore it and speak as we want to speak. Obviously, nobody should go out of their way to offend anyone but these days these woke people are so easily offended that we would just have to go about in silence to avoid hurting their feelings on some subject or another, especially race.
The police officer who was arrested on suspicion of Sarah’s murder, has now been charged. It’s really horrifying to think that a serving officer could do something like this, although he’s not been tried yet and found guilty so we have to go on the presumption of innocence. It really is a shocking crime.
All the same, to punish all men (or even all policemen!) is just ridiculous. Women commit terrible crimes as well but I’d like to see the outcry if a curfew was imposed on women.
About pet hates in the language – I get irritated when people say “it’s OK if you agree and it’s OK if you don’t” and what about “your truth” and “my truth” – that annoyed me in the Oprah interview with Meghan and Harry. LOL!
I wonder just how consoling Sarah’s family will find this “vigil” – these insufferable feminists and “women’s campaigners” will use anything to further their ridiculous cause.
This is from Lockdown Sceptics about the Sarah Everard vigil and arrests – it says it far better than I could.
First They Came For the Anti-Lockdown Protestors…
By Toby Young
Twitter was aflame last night with prominent politicians and journalists condemning the Metropolitan Police’s heavy-handed treatment of women gathering on Clapham Common at a vigil to mourn the death of Sarah Everard and calling for the resignation of Cressida Dick, the Metropolitan Police Commissioner. The irony, of course, is that these are the very same people who’ve enthusiastically supported the lockdowns, including the suspension of the right to protest, and who’ve condemned anti-lockdown protestors for being “selfish” and “irresponsible”.
I’m sorry, but if you didn’t object to the Metropolitan Police’s brutal tactics in dispersing anti-lockdown protestors in Trafalgar Square last September, you cannot condemn their employment of identical tactics last night. Either you defend the right to protest for everyone, or you defend it for no one. You cannot just get worked up about it when it affects those whose cause you approve of.
You cheered when our Government suspended our civil liberties, claiming it was “necessary” to contain a virus that kills 0.25% of those who catch it and which, if you’re under-65, is less deadly than an average bout of seasonal flu. You cheered when our Government continued to pursue its reckless lockdown policy in the face of mounting evidence that it causes more harm than it prevents, destroying hospitality and retail businesses, wreaking havoc with children’s mental health and separating people from their loved ones. You cheered when the tiny handful of people who took to our streets to demonstrate against the suspension of our liberties were led away in handcuffs, branding them “Covid deniers” and “conspiracy theorists”.
This is on you.
This is what an authoritarian state looks like.
I am appalled that the Hate Crime Bill has passed – this is one of the problems of not keeping up with the news. I stopped watching the mainstream TV news a good while ago, due to the constant Covid stuff. So, it’s a shock that this dreadful Bill has gone through.
In the Express report I highlighted an extract from what the Tory/Conservative MSP said:
“Only a few weeks ago, the Scottish Police Federation wrote to the Justice Committee convener saying there is substantial potential for many more people coming to adverse police attention as a consequence of elements of this legislation, regardless of potential freedom of expression provisions.
“If that is correct, there must be a risk that this bill as presented could have a chilling effect on freedom of expression.
“Furthermore, this bill contains no defence regarding private conversations in your own home. The police could come to your home, having received a report of stirring up hate around the dinner table and take witness statements from those present.
“That, presumably, could include your children. I cannot vote for that.”
The Bill was passed 82-32 – TBH I’m surprised that there were as many as 32 who voted against. That gives us some cause for hope, maybe.
The Justice Minister does say that just expressing robust opinions won’t fall foul of the law but I’m afraid I doubt that, seriously.
The one thing the Justice minister would not remove from the Bill was the bit about comments made within the home – that is still covered. If you say something that is thought to be offensive in your own home, and there is a woke person present, then you are liable to be reported to the police. It’s unbelievable.
It’s utterly disgraceful that we are now under threat from the SNP government if we say the “wrong” thing in our own homes. What I am learning now, this past year with repeated lockdowns and living under the threat of more to come, and now this hate crime bill, is that I really am not a free person any more. I’m having to live in fear – that’s really what is happening, when even in my own home I have to watch what I say. I do have friends who hold PC opinions and in the past I’ve had them over for dinner and coffee, etc. and we’ve had debates, but now I’ll have to think twice. I wouldn’t like to think they’d report me to the police, but I just don’t know. That’s how mad the world has become – especially, I have to reluctantly admit, Scotland.
I ask again, why aren’t the clergy objecting to this taking away of our God-given freedom?
Lily and Michaela,
Both your comments made me think what had been happening in communist countries. I am sure children were encouraged to report their parents and/or relatives by what was said or done in the home.
Nothing like having home based spies ready to carry out the authorities illicit commands. How many parents and/or relatives could have ended up in prison or be executed. Heaven knows where the children would end up afterwards. Would the children realised their culpability for the consequences of reporting their parents?
I don’t know if this counts, but the language that annoys me is when I’m watching an American film and the characters open their doors to a visitor and say “what are you doing here?”
Imagine saying that in Scotland – the visitor would say “Right, be like that. You won’t see ME again!” Then march off in high dudgeon, LOL!
LOL! That’s exactly right. You wouldn’t get away with saying that to anyone in Glasgow, and probably not anywhere else in Scotland.
One thing that does make me cringe is when people on the TV speak about “moving forward”. You can see it coming, LOL!
Firstly, may Ms Everard rest in peace and God help her family, and may her killer be brought to justice. I think people like Baroness Evans come out with these inflammatory (criminalising 50% of the population); outrageous, ridiculous and unworkable comments knowing that they won’t happen, but hoping that they will get more than if they’d have asked for less, if you get my point. I give an example on an unrelated matter.
I knew of a developer who had acquired land and there was great local opposition and concern from local homeowners (who have very nice homes) about the flats which were being proposed to be built there. A rumour went around – I know not from where – that the flats would be used to house illegal immigrants awaiting clearance for citizenship. It was never the case and was never true. However, the mere rumour scared the locals into accepting almost any alternative for the flats, and the building went through unopposed.
As for the Hate Crime Bill, watch out those who have Alexa or any other electronic snoop device (lots of smart TV’s have them). They do listen to our conversations and could be used by a malign government for covert surveillance. This was brought home to me when a friend told me the folllowing story. A friend of hers had applied for a job with a government department dealing with security – she didn’t say which one out of discretion. During his interview he was asked if he had Alexa or any other kind of monitoring device in his home and would he be prepared to live without them? Obviously the government security departments know something we don’t.
As for the 6pm curfew, if it ever does happen (I rule nothing out in this mad world), I’m going to identify as female from 6.01pm onwards to midnight everyday, so I can go out if I want to. After all, who’s to judge what gender I identify as?
That’s hilarious! Identifying as a female after 6pm – totally brilliant!
The rest of your comment is very serious, though – I do agree that these ridiculous suggestions are often acting as cover to get something just a bit less ridiculous through so that this tyrannical form of government that we are suffering can continue to put restrictions on us, whether the whole population for one thing, or 50% of the population for another. The shocking thing is that however ridiculous the rules become, the majority will go along with them, judging from this past year.
What I want to know is why is there no clergy speaking out? They should be defending our rights as coming from God not from the Government.
I forgot to say that your hilarious comment reminded me of one of the many things that annoy me in the language today – this constant talk about “identity” I find myself railing against “identify as…” and “identity politics”. They really are annoying sayings.
One of the things that I think is silly is “drill down” or “drilling down”.
We used to speak about looking into something carefully or thoroughly. Now they say we need to “drill down”. It’s just change for the sake of it.
“The optics” is another one. We used to say “that won’t look good” but now it’s “the optics are bad” or “it’s all about the optics”.
I’d love to know who thinks these things up!
I think the reason there is such saturation about “identity” is because those people who have fallen for this ideology really have no idea who they are. In other words, they have no identity, so they make one up.
Too bad they don’t know that our identity is that we are children of God, created to know, love and serve Him. If all the homosexuals and the crooks in the hierarchy would remind the world of that, identity politics would evaporate quickly.
That’s a very good question about the clergy.
After all, they bleat on about making the Church more “relevant” to the world – what could be more relevant than pointing out that our personal and religious freedoms are given to us by God and are not “cancellable” by the Government? Can you imagine the public support there would be if this truth were given an airing?
It’s unbelievable that they have placed the Faith into the “Sunday only” box and even THAT is only by Government approval. Disgraceful.
I hear a lot of people saying that there are certain professions which they no longer respect: medical, legal and priesthood.
How very sad. But understandable.
W F am sure that us Men can now identify as you say as Women,in fact it most certainly seems the fashion these days . Men in Prison saying they are a Woman getting moved into Women’s Prisons. Men saying they are Women getting a Bed in Women’s Shelters ,where the most Vulnerable of beaten up Women by their Husbands or Boyfriends are ,along lots of time with their Children. The list is endless ,especially now that it’s wrong for Teachers to say their are only 2 Genders as Richard Lucas recently found out to His cost . Let’s hope this Good Man gets enough Votes in the next Scottish Election for a Proportional Representation Seat . Isnt it strange but not Funny of course when all of this Hate Speech Garbage is being brought in that Adults , as Richard Lucas proved said that the Sex Education Program by the S.N.P. was too Vulgar to discuss. Just a small warning now this Hate Bill is in . 3 Years ago I was in a Bump with my Car at a mini roundabout the other Car was at Fault. In it was a White Girl with Her Moslem Boyfriend. Their was hardly any damage to both cars but they demanded that the Police came . 10 Minutes later they were on the scene and it took them TWO hours to say to them that They were at fault. They were Desperate to arrest me on something and in my mind it was only one thing . One of the New Words the ED asked us to say drove us crazy – Islamophobia .
ED I read your comments but tried to go onto The Cool 😎 Daily Express but all that came up on my 1st Generation I Pad was So and So Adverts which also drive me Mad . I even tried on the BBC Scotland Site but their was nothing about it . I can though most certainly Imagine what the Hate Speech will cover and I certainly don’t think it will cover such things as being called a Fenian closely followed by Bst…rd . If I had £1 for every time I was called that ad be a Millionaire without a Doubt. I most definitely suppose that and I better not use the word Martin used the LGBTQ2WXYZ people especially. As for Smart TVs Etc I don’t even have a Dumb TV now . Also am 200% with you on this Language Garbage. Like Cool and Woke Chill is another one that drives me crazy as in Chill Out Etc . The only Chills I knew as a Child was before my Mother Threw a 1950s Duvet over us in Bed . Or to be more Precise an Old Army Coat, as even sleeping 3 in a Bed we were really Chilled. Out of the lot of these mad new words that get to me though is YEA . Even in my own Wee Scots Village it’s YEA instead of AYE it would be OK at least if they said YES . As for the Murder of that Woman it is dreadful and we know of course especially here in Scotland and al not Name Names as you also can probably remember the Terrible Murders of Women in the 50s where their was real fear . But this stupid Woman wanting a Curfew my God what will be next as most of us are already under a Curfew at the Moment. O and Victor I thoroughly agree with you and those Crimes are real. But as like the LGBT Lot ,nothing bad can be said of those from ( I don’t even know now if am allowed to mention the Country ) . O stuff all of this ,ED do you know any good Sign Language Teacher 👨🏫.
You are a scream! I honestly laughed out loud when I saw your quip about learning sign language. Priceless! If I’d thought of that, I’d have used it in the headline! I may yet do… 😀
I think a lot of us remember having to pile on coats for warmth in bed – and it didn’t even cross our minds to report our parents to social services!
Oh and I agree that “chill” is another of those irritating words in modern parlance. Any conversation with a young person these days where we said it was “cool” outside and/or we felt “chilled” would have them frowning in confusion and accusing us of being illiterate 😀
Truly, you could not make this stuff up…
ED thanks for the comment at least am not getting the belt. But I suppose we better beware as ,without a Doubt Sign Language will become the New Hate Speech. I hope that none on here take Offence at this but here is another thing that when I watched the TV especially late at Night would drive me Crazy ,they probably still do it . Some Expert Politician or Expert Weather Person would be telling us the News or Weather and in the Corner of our Screens was this ( usually a wee Wummin ) waving Her hands about like Mad . As am not very clever I asked someone what this could be ,and was told that the Wee Wummin waving Her hands about was for Deaf People and it was Sign Language She was doing. Now I read W F comment about Smart TVs Etc and I personally have never had one . What I did have though and it came out Many Years ago was Teletext. Where of course were the words on the TV of the person who was speaking. Now I have to ask myself do they as in the Brain Boxes think that a Deaf Person is also illiterate. It also occurred to me to think that the people who run these through the Night Newsreels Etc think that all Deaf people are Insomniacs . Or do they just believe their all related to the Pinball Wizard.
I honestly can’t believe that anybody would seriously consider this curfew, yet here it is being discussed on Talk Radio. It’s unbelievable.
It IS unbelievable. I do like Julia Hartley-Brewer’s interviews but I notice that she has the not uncommon weakness of wanting to APPEAR to be SO reasonable, on just about every issue. That is one of those 21 century customs which I find irritating. I mean, the very idea of putting men under a 6pm curfew is out of order, end of discussion. There is no justification for it whatsoever, so drop the posing and just say so, Julia!
This short video show how terrible this Hate Crime Bill is – I hope it costs the SNP tons of votes in May.
Lily ad love to say that your 100% correct . But and here,s the But is their really anyone sensible who Votes for the Likes of Sturgeon . I mean it was a few years ago and a person whom ad known nearly all of my life actually asked ME if ad like to go up with him to The Scottish Parliament ( I usually call it something else ) and listen to that lot debate .I mean this in all sincerity as one comedian used to say . Ad rather go to the Dentist .In fact probably like most of us on here now we,d love to go to a dentist .
Well, FOOF, don’t lose hope. I discovered today that there is a new pro-independence party on the rise, so that will split the vote and, hopefully, curtain the SNP stranglehold over Holyrood.
My God am glad am now in my 70s after watching that Bull- and can ANYONE tell me what the Hell a Gender Justice Specialist is . Do they have to serve an Apprenticeship or do they become Tradespersons Right off and go straight on the Tools . I would also take a guess on that idiotic Woman and say that she,ll have at least one Secretary and about 10 Assistants .
From the Christian Institute today…
Holyrood has passed the Hate Crime and Public Order (Scotland) Bill.
While it remains deeply controversial, we can give thanks to God that the Bill is far better than it was when we set up Free to Disagree in June 2020. The level of public engagement has rivalled even that of our campaign against the Named Person scheme. The constant pressure has made a huge difference. Thank you if you were one of the many who took action.
The original Bill posed a major threat to free speech, including evangelism and Christian comment on sexual ethics. It would have been better to drop Part 2, the section on ‘stirring up of hatred’, completely. But the version just approved by MSPs does include several important safeguards:
• It is now necessary to show ‘intent’ to stir up hatred. Previously, it caught anything deemed ‘likely’ to stir up hatred;
• The vague term ‘abusive’ will be applied using a ‘reasonable person’ test, and the Bill expressly recognises that free speech includes ideas that may offend, shock or disturb;
• There are much more robust protections for religious debate, protecting the freedom to proclaim Christ as the only way of salvation;
• A section criminalising those in possession of ‘inflammatory materials’, which could have included the Bible, has been removed;
• A free speech clause now covers discussion and criticism of transgender identity, helping to protect people who uphold the biological understanding of sex.
Sadly, Justice Minister Humza Yousaf refused to specifically protect conversations in the home from criminalisation. While this is disappointing, the general free speech protections will still apply.
Please join with us in giving thanks to God and keep praying that gospel freedom will continue to be protected in ‘the land of the Book’. If you would like to make a donation to help us in our work at this time please use the donate button below.
Yours in Christ,
The Christian Institute
While I understand her anger (which is widely shared), Baroness Evans showed herself to be both unfit for office and a super-idiot with her “curfew for men” comments.
Again we are reminded of what loopy individuals are to be found wearing Green rosettes in politics.
Evans’ comments betrayed her sexist prejudice. Prejudice which would have been attacked more vigorously, has she suggested a curfew for Muslims (due to a tiny minority being responsible for Islamic terrorism), or a curfew for Black people (due to their communities being responsible for a disproportionate amount of gang-related crime in London & elsewhere).
I am also confident that crime statistics would show that it is men who are reliably the chief victims of violent crime. And so it is difficult to say whether the anger of Evans and others is due to genuine concern for victims, or just self-indulgent feminism (is there any other kind?).
I trust nothing I have said here makes me a target for Humza Yousef’s hate speech law?
Since females are guilty of the majority of shoplifting crimes in the UK, shouldn’t we put limits on when and where women are allowed to shop?
The craziness of the concept is driven home when the logical extension of the suggestion is put to the test.
For example, just imagine the outcry if women were only allowed to shop in supermarkets between 7.am and 10am Monday to Wednesdays, to allow for increased supervision, aisle patrols etc.
You have to laugh… 😀
Re the hate speech law: I understand Scotland is now the first country in the Western world where the authorities have openly declared their interest in policing what you say in the privacy of your own home.
Another triumph for the SNP regime, which is surely a punishment from God.
I look forward to the first case of a child denouncing his or her parents to the authorities, forging yet another similarity between SNP Scotland and Nazi Germany.
Yes, of course – it’s always about making sure Scotland is “first” – and this is the latest “first”, albeit shameful and scandalous, policing what we say in our own homes. Downright evil.
On our other topic of daft sayings these days, I came across another one today when I heard someone interviewed who had been in prison for a crime and was facing a parole board. She expressed her horror at what she’d done (murder) adding, “That’s not who I am…”
At one time, we’d have said “I’m not like that”… Now it’s “That’s not who I am”.
I wish someone would say that in my presence, because I’d fire back with “Well, just who ARE you, then?”
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