England Set To Extend ‘Police State’ Powers… Staying Safe or Staying Scared?
Defence secretary Ben Wallace has defended plans to extend COVID lockdown powers in England, measures that one former Tory minister has branded “excessive and disproportionate”.
The government is facing a severe backlash over plans to extend draconian restrictions under the Coronavirus Act for another six months.
But speaking on Sky News’ Sophy Ridge on Sunday, Wallace said the government was “taking assessments from the science” to make decisions on lockdown policy.
He said: “The final mile is the most important thing for us all, make sure we buckle down, get through the different stages the prime minister set out.”
Asked whether the government could be extending the powers for longer than necessary, Wallace said: “Parliament can always remove powers if it needs to.”
He added: “None of us want to have draconian measures but this is an unprecedented global pandemic that has cost hundreds of thousands of lives around the world.”
“At each stage we will be taking assessments from the science, from where we are in the pandemic, and take the steps required,” he said.
“It is not a one-way street. Just because we are seeking to extend the powers doesn’t mean we are deaf to how facts change on the ground.”
Read: Laurence Fox criticises ‘despicable’ police at lockdown protest
However, former Conservative minister Steve Baker described the Coronavirus Act as “excessive and disproportionate”, adding that it “should now go”.
He said: “The government really does need to start taking advantage of their own great success on the vaccination programme.” Source
Note…
The two interviews relevant to this discussion in the Sophy Ridge show are the first two: Ben Wallace MP and Steve Baker MP.
Comment:
Nobody can even pretend surprise now at the predictable call to further extend the tyranny being imposed upon the peoples of the UK in the name of protecting us from a virus from which the majority of people who become infected including the elderly recover. Only those elderly with serious underlying conditions are at any risk, as they are always at risk from any other flu virus.
I say “the peoples of the UK” because – just as predictably – what happens in England today comes to Scotland tomorrow. How long is this “stay safe” baloney going to last? With every promise of the easing of restrictions comes a cautionary warning; keep washing your hands, wearing masks, [anti]social distancing OR we will imprison you again. In other words, the “stay safe” message is merely a rather unsubtle form of a quite different, if highly effective, message; stay scared.
So, again, I ask – how long is this tyranny going to last? Some think another year. Others think two years. Others even longer – I read one estimate of eight years recently. Meanwhile, people are forgetting what it’s like to be free – and many young people have never known what it is like to live as a free person. Will we continue (as a population) to accept the kind of arrogance displayed by Ben Wallace MP during the above Sophy Ridge interview? One thing is a dead cert – if the Westminster Parliament (and the other devolved assemblies) extend police state powers allegedly for another six months, there is no guarantee that we will be free in six months. The more we go along with this authoritarian abuse of power, the longer it will last. Contrary to what Ben Wallace MP said, Governments do not give up powers they’ve taken in alleged emergencies. Doesn’t happen.
People drift into situations and we have already drifted into totalitarian governance. Have we no option but to accept this “new normal”? Some people ignore the rules and live as we did prior to lockdowns. I sympathise, especially for two people I’ve been reading about: one said “I’ve been in more lockdowns than relationships” and another who, in future job interviews, can only explain the gap, the missing year, in his Curriculum Vitae, by saying that he was washing his hands 😀
This is all serious stuff folks so think carefully before you shrug off this latest extension of police state powers with a casual: “what’s six more months…”
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Just a we personal experience of the Hypocrisy of all of this B.S. As you know ED I have over the last few months had bother with my Prostate and thanks to a Doctor outside of my GP Practice I was able to get past the Receptionists ( or Rottweilers ) as the other Doc called them and eventually got the treatment I needed .I have already said on Here that I was one of the Lucky ones as 3 Months is a long time if one has say Cancer . I met a good friend last week who was a Daily Mass goer who also has trouble with His Prostate ( hadnt seen him in nearly a year ) and He told me He had been passing blood for almost a Year .His Doctor said to Him and I quote ” Its Nothing To Worry About ” .Now am no Medical Specialist but someone being told that passing Blood in Your Urine is nothing to be concerned about is Shocking . I told him to call his Doc ASAP and Demand a Private Consultation as that’s what I was told by the good Doc outside of my Practice . I just hope he gets the correct treatment as we know of course that Anyone who Dies and is not Shot, Dies from this Chinese Disease .I was also told by the good Doc not to wear any tight fitting Trousers or Jeans Etc a Tip to others on here as She said that tight fitting Clothes was a Big Factor in Lymph Cancer as it restricts the normal flow of Blood Etc .I most certainly had never been told that before .Sorry to go on but yesterday I went to Matalan and Primark I didn’t know that both were closed as they don’t sell Essential Items .I personally thought Clothing was Essential but then again am not Dr Fauci . Anyhow I don’t have a Car now and go By Bus yesterday I was on 4 all of which were Pretty Full . I eventually got 2 Pairs of Jogging Bottoms in Poundland which was Full to the Gills . Now I know this Chinese Disease is real and personally I Pray Especially for my Family who have to go to Work to stay Healthy but Freedom is real Health and these WHO Scientists are owned as we know by Bill Gates .Uncle Joe says that some Americans may be able to meet on the 4th of July but as you point out above may have to be ,masked up for 8 Years .God Help Especially our Children from this Evil .
Faith of our Fathers,
Sorry, but too much information, as they say, LOL!
Just a little light relief after that long winded post . One of Our Local Banks was robbed on Friday .Word going around is that The Polis are Searching High and Low for 2 Unmasked Suspects .
Faith of our Fathers,
That’s a great joke!
Did you hear the joke about coronavirus? Never mind, I don’t want to spread it.
Margaret Mary,
Love the joke, LOL!
In all seriousness, that was a very concerning interview with Ben Wallace – he’s one of those who is enjoying the power. I totally agree that this will not be “six months” any more than, what was it, three weeks to flatten the curve.
We are in this indefinitely and I actually remember reading on here months ago that one of the politicians, I forget which but I think it was Nicola Sturgeon, actually said that we would be living like this “indefinitely”.
I’m hearing more and more people saying that they feel helpless and depressed living like this. There doesn’t seem to be any way out of it – even when you get vaccinated (if you do that) it doesn’t change a thing. You still have to wear your mask, socially distance and keep washing your hands. It’s a disgrace the way we are being played for fools.
I completely agree – this “six months” in England will translate into “ten months” in Scotland – wait and see, and then it will be extended again and again. It’s a scandal, the whole thing.
We are reaping what we have sown, though, that is for sure. If we’d refused to accept these restrictions from the start, or at least from early on, we wouldn’t be facing yet another extension.
The point about young people never having known what it is like to live as a free person, really hit me between the eyes. That is SO true.
If we’d only known what the Chinese leader (forget his name) meant when he said they would overcome the world with Communism and do it without firing a single shot. They’ve done it by using this virus. It’s truly unbelievable.
Lily,
This article is about China not firing a single shot – not sure if this is what you were thinking of.
https://www.breitbart.com/2020-election/2020/11/03/rep-greg-murphy-coronavirus-lockdowns-show-china-how-to-take-over-america-firing-single-shot/
I definitely agree about this shocking new extension to the government’s powers. It’s sinister, IMHO.
They’re going to keep doing this and keeping the fearmongering going, until we’re so used to living like this that we just accept it. I’m stunned at the way most people are OK with this way of life.
Josephine,
Actually, no, it was in a video about the way China plans to rule the world and will do so without firing a single shot, but I’d never be able to find it again.
These bureaucrat dictators are so deranged and so evil, I’m afraid it will result in civil war before it ends. And the mega-rich Satanists like Gates and Soros, who are behind all this, are so out of touch with reality that they don’t even know they are seriously overplaying their hand. The world is just a chess board to them.
Again Victor your Spot On but I hope that Brave Woman amongst other Whistleblowers is Safe . The Evil on all sides is so bad that one can almost touch it . It’s only a theory of mine but ad certainly like your opinion and others on Here . The Vatican is now completely Non Catholic . I believe that The Nighty Night Cardinals who are Evil to the core are mostly Practicing Homosexuals. I also believe that at least 1, McCarrick is a Communist Agent who was as we all know on Here supposed to take the Chinese Catholics and Publicly throw them to the Wolfs but of course he was so Decrepit that Bergoglio had to go and do that Dirty Deed of which not even a lay Catholic worth their Salt would have done . So what is He ? Now as you say their may well be a Civil War which again will suit the Chinese to a Tee . Our freedom is being taken from us by stealth and obscene wealth AKA Soros and Gates . In EDs last post of Biden being refused Communion I very much doubt if He will be President then as He’s going Downhill and Down Steps Fast so will the American people accept Jezebel Herself as President. I personally doubt it as even a Kid can see the Corruption And Evil in Her Face . As for Lockdowns being extended it just goes from bad to worse.
J.D.,
If this is the Passion of the Church, paralleling the Passion of Our Lord (and whaddya know, it’s Passion Week), then instead of one traitor inside the gates – Judas – there’s an entire cabal of them.
And instead of a small group of Pharisees (the priestly “elites” of the ancient world) plotting to arrest and execute Our Lord, we have the New World Order global apparatus plotting to destroy an entire Christian civilization. And what is the NWO? The elites of the Satanic religion and their minions.
One more parallel: the traitor inside the gates betrayed Our Lord to the priestly elites for 30 pieces of silver. The modern traitor cabal inside the gates has betrayed the Church to the Satanic elites for $________ (probably sums scarcely imaginable, such as the money that was paid to Francis for the China deal).
However, the parallel falls apart in one aspect, as far as I can figure: the State (Pilate) knew Our Lord was innocent, but succumbed to the threats of the mob and sentenced Him to death. The modern state seems to know no such thing: in fact, I’d say they – the Deep State – are a part of the mob.
RCA Victor
Not being the poetic type, the only parallel I can ever see with this pontiff, rest of the hierarchy and clergy, IS Judas and his 30 pieces of silver.
Is there anything worse, really?
ED for once I am stuck for words so al just grieve instead .As you and others on Here have said at least 95% of Catholics think that Francis is a Catholic .Also ad say that the same 95% have never heard of Bill Gates and His Vaccines . Most Humans in fact as you know don’t believe in Satan .That is until they meet him of course .I just hope and pray am not one .
https://www.lifesitenews.com/opinion/who-insider-blows-whistle-on-gates-and-gavi?utm_source=top_news&utm_campaign=standard
RCA Victor,
WOW! That article should be spread far and wide. Many thanks for posting it.
RCAVictor
Thanks for linking this critical interview, which I have now forwarded to Sir Desmond Swayne MP in Westmninster. No point in sending it to the editors of newspapers as they’re already bought off.
Athanasius,
Brilliant.
Sir Desmond Swayne and Sir Charles Walker (with Steve Baker MP in iffy third place) are the only MPs that I can see who are even remotely aware that there is more to this crisis than a virus.
With bishops like this, who needs enemies from the state? https://gloria.tv/post/kbLCfAMEV3R63LWSJp6iQWkHd
WF,
Thank you for that unbelievable link, if anything is “unbelievable” these days. I’ve copied the text of that report, since it’s short, if not very sweet, for those who may skip the link…
FROM GLORIA TV…
Salford Bishop John Arnold launched a radical restructuring plan to close 75 of his 150 churches to save money.
At the same time, Arnold appointed last November Emma Gardner as “Head of Environment” to oversee a diocesan environmental centre.
Her last position as head of environmental sustainability at Manchester University was advertised as up to £62,727 ($87,401). DiClara.co.uk (March 19) has learned that she is being paid by the diocese “well in excess of double that.”
You are exactly right – with bishops like this, who needs enemies from the state? Well said.
If the Church had not been “reset” at Vatican II, we would not be living through the infiltration of Communist governance today, right across the UK.
Not bad money if you can get it eh ED . Approx £130.000 a year for doing exactly what .Playing Elton Johns –Dont Let The Sun Go Down On Me— If their are Any Catholics in Salford who give to this shower (God Forgive me ad be banned for saying it ) they want their heads examined .And i ask a Question Here . Surely these Churches and Lands are not this Reprobate Bishops to sell as obviously thats where the Money will come from to Pay His Fair Weather Lady Friend . Sure even Michael Fish didnt get anywhere near that kind of Dough .And we all know what a good Weather Forecaster he was .
Faith of our Fathers,
LOL! Michael Fish’s infamous weather forecast – he never got to forgot about that blunder, when he dismissed the woman who had rung in to say there was a hurricane on the way. Look at his forecast in the clip below and then remember that the next day was horrendous just like that woman had said, LOL!
Here’s a clip with the news next day, LOL!
Was that not then, what would now be described as Climate Change .Of course one need not worry about Climate if they are a Catholic and live in Salford Manchester .
I was once informed by a Westminster insider that he was hotly tipped to take over from +Vincent Nichols. God help us.
WF,
And, ironically, by closing churches and opening this environmental centre, Bishop Arnold will have strengthened his position among the liberal elite, and will be top of the list to fill Westminster when the time comes.
Truly, it would be impossible to make this stuff up. Future generations will look back in astonishment (and then some) at what has been going on in the Church in these times.
ED am really surprised at you thinking that Francis would not make an Environmentally Friendly Bishop another Nighty Night Cardinal . Surely with this Announcement He has earned His Stripes to maybe go right to the Top in What is Surely Now Hells Kitchen. ED just a little Question. Probably to all on Here
Just What Exactly is Environmental Sustainablity .
I mean really Society and these ,as far as am concerned Reprobate Clergy have gone crazy. Well for Power and Money especially. Maybe it’s just my imagination,but would this Appointment have anything to do with Abortion. O not trying to stop it of course.
FOOF,
You do ask the silliest questions. It’s obvious what “environmental sustainability” means. It means the sustainability of the environment.
Honestly, did they teach you anything at school? 😀 😀
That’s a cracker ED . if the Poor Woman who is getting this Low Paying Job sees this am sure She could use that when asked the question ” What is it that you will actually be doing for a Measly £130.000 a Year ” Ed have you any Idea what Salary Her Assistant will be getting .
JD,
RE: Environmental sustainability: bottom line is Bill Gates-From-Hell’s definition, that is, the number of living people the planet can sustain without being “harmed.”
Or, to back into the Gates definition, the number of people who will have to be eliminated in order for the planet to be healthy.
However, as you’ve probably noticed, the word “sustainable” can be applied to any food item, since most, if not all grocers have no idea what it really means. They just think it sounds responsible. For example, last year I was in the grocery store looking for some salmon. I came across one salmon steak whose price tag was higher because it was “sustainable.”
I asked the guy behind the meat counter what “sustainable salmon” was, but he had no clue. So, looking to preserve my wallet’s sustainability, I bought some unsustainable salmon…
Westminster Fly,
That’s beyond belief (but isn’t everything these days!)
Closing churches but opening an environment centre? Who on earth would believe this if they didn’t read it with their own eyes.
The fact that the diocese are paying her more than double her previous salary which was huge, is surely going to waken up the people in Salford Diocese? Can they afford to pay that for such a stupid job?
Somebody should challenge this in court – I think it is abuse of funds. Poor people are giving money to their parishes when they can ill afford it – and this idiotic bishop is using it to open an environmental centre while he is closing churches?
This truly beggars belief.
Josephine,
I totally agree – it’s a disgrace and if I found out that my contributions were being used for something so ludicrous as “environmental” causes, I’d stop paying right away.
To me their is nothing more that can be said about these Reprobates who Scandalize our Catholic Church more and more on a Daily Basis. Rather them than Me when it comes to Judgement Day as Surely they must at least know Basic Scripture. They not only Sin through Pride and Greed and Homosexuality and all sorts of perversion ,but are trying their best to lead others down the Pathway to Hell . They have sold not only their Own Souls but are trying to garner others for Satan, they are without a Doubt the Scribes and Pharisees of now of whom Jesus Condemned 2000 years ago . But for us what ” A servant is not greater than his Master,if they persecute Me they will persecute you also ” I personally never thought ad see the Day when that passage of Scripture would apply to Me or to Us, and for that should i feel shame?
Another abomination: our English cathedrals and churches being used as jabbing centres. Worshipping the new Covid “religion,”
This is a Talk Radio interview where the claim is that there is likely to be total anarchy in Britain before the end of this year – I wouldn’t be surprised. If they are going to keep us locked down for months on end, what do they expect?
Lily,
Anarchy is one of the main goals of the Communists, which is why they habitually attack the police in various ways, such as “defund the police,” media interpreting videotaped arrests in the worst possible light, etc.
This is not to excuse police actions against COVID-19 protocol violators. In those cases I believe the police should be punished – severely.
RCA Victor,
TOTALLY off topic, but I’ve just stumbled across this young American man on the video clip below and I’m SURE you’ll love it! I couldn’t resist!
Editor,
That kid is priceless! He’d be a great impressionist.
It beggars belief that the British people haven’t caught on to this fake pandemic narrative by now. I mean, a few weeks “to flatten the curve” has turned into a full year of Beijing police state totalitarianism with nutcases like Raab and Hancock now talking about enforced vaccines and vaccine passports just to buy food, yet the people are largely still buying the propaganda. Education standards must have really collapsed in Britain over the last few decades, for a 5-year old could have worked out by now what’s actually going on in the name of this Chinese flu.
Athanasius,
Here’s an article from today’s Lockdown Sceptics site, on the subject of the First Anniversary of “Three weeks to flatten the curve”. ( Yeah right!)
https://lockdownsceptics.org/the-first-anniversary-of-three-weeks-to-flatten-the-curve/
The forced vaccination agenda is now becoming manifest. Despite saying “that’s not how we do things in the UK”, Boris and Hancock are now proposing legislation to force Care Workers to have the jab – due to the low take-up among health workers, this is likely to be extended to include other health workers. After that, who’s left… Oh yes, the rest of us.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2021/03/22/care-home-staff-face-compulsory-covid-vaccination/
Lockdown Sceptics have reported that – thousands protested against lockdowns in London on Saturday 20th March 2021. More than thirty were arrested. Piers Corbyn gave a speech, and said he would “never” take a vaccine. It also said that he was falsely claiming that the scale of deaths from Covid was not dissimilar to those from flu each year.
https://lockdownsceptics.org/2021/03/20/thousands-protest-against-lockdown-in-london/
Gee, I wonder if all those deadly vaccines are “sustainable”…
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/20-countries-suspend-astrazeneca-vaccine/
Inevitably, the Westminster Parliament has voted today, by a huge majority, to extend lockdown powers for another 6 months. The few MPs who rebelled include Sir Charles Walker – here he is stating the obvious which seems to have passed by his naïve (or stupid?) colleagues… that we are now living in an authoritarian state and anyone who thinks this extension of 6 months will be the last, well… they really ARE stupid.
Put simply, Sir Charles is saying what we, at Catholic Truth, have been saying from the very beginning of this “crisis” – that we are in this for the foreseeable future. We haven’t fought for our freedom, so we’ve lost it.
For the record, however, it has to be noted that there are some people who are continuing to live as we did prior to the first lockdown, last March. Some of us will continue to live as free people, and our message to those who choose to live in uncritical obedience and irrational fear, is… Feel free 😀
Here’s Sir Charles being interviewed by the fully on-message Channel 4 presenter…
Matt Hancock is signalling that there could be another extension in six months. This is an extract from an article on Lockdown Sceptics.
“Mr Hancock told the restive chamber he “cannot answer” whether the Coronavirus Act will be retired in six months or rolled on, as he opened the debate this afternoon.
“There are parts of this Act that have allowed us to do good things that everybody would like to see like that, and so when we do come to retire this Act, which we must within one year and preferably within six months, we will need to make sure that we can continue to do that sort of thing and make sure that nurses can be enrolled as easily as possible into the NHS,” he said.
“But I cannot answer whether we will be retiring it in six months. My preference would be yes, but given the last year, I think a prediction would be hasty.”
I think what has been said on this blog many times is actually correct, that we are not going to be coming out of lockdown at all. Not until after the Consecration of Russia, that’s for sure. Our Lady said Communism would spread to every country in the world, and it’s come here, now.
Lily,
They really ought to call the Coronavirus Act by a different name, such as the Recussancy Act, since it creates a legal obligation to worship the false god of the medical dictatorship it has established.
This Hancock character sounds just like another fraud, Dr. (??) Anthony Fauci, whose job is to hold his hands in a reflective position while moving the goal posts about once a week.
RCA Victor,
I’ve just this minute posted a fresh thread.. Thus I saw your comment addressed to Lily, as it appeared.
You are right about Hancock – he is a little dictator. SO phony. He was on the Piers Morgan GMB show on the day the vaccine was being announced or rolled out whatever it was and he tried to cry, can you believe it. Phony non-tears.
He’s a scoundrel and he’s over the moon that the vote went his way in Parliament yesterday.
Nobody is asking what these scientific and medical “experts” are being paid and whether HE and others with “Covid” responsibilities are being paid. I read somewhere a while back that the “experts” are now millionaires – I’d love to know the details. There has to be a reason why they are so keen to keep us in lockdown and under restrictions for another year (it’s a given that it won’t be another six months… Hancock signalled that immediately after the vote. Scoundrel.)
Now, we await Nicola’s announcement, although she may be caught in a bit of a dilemma with the May elections for Holyrood due. We’ll see, but it would be difficult to keep England under extra restrictions and not Scotland. The border might be over-run 😀
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