Antifa: Convert to Sanity Speaks Out…
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People in the UK who rely on the mainstream British news outlets may not even have heard of Antifa, or think that it is only active in the USA. Wrong. Both Antifa and Black Lives Matter (BLM) are extreme left-wing groups, each openly committed to political violence – and they’re becoming more committed by the nano-second.
Members of these groups have been causing chaos in the USA throughout the summer of 2020, setting fire to buildings and police cars, terrorising cities and towns. They hated President Trump with a vengeance and, in advance of the November 2020 election, the windows in Washington DC were boarded up in anticipation of a Trump victory. When Biden was announced the winner, there was no violence. Having said that, there is still ongoing violence in certain parts of the USA, but, amazingly, nothing is done about it. Perhaps RCA Victor, our American Blogger-in-Chief, can explain that.
BLM is also active in the UK. One headline in the local Evening Telegraph on 12 June, 2020 read: Outrage at posters in Dundee calling for police, MPs and white people to be killed. All signed off with #BlackLivesMatter / #Antifa /#BLM Scotland /#Avenge Slavery…
In fact, these groups are not remotely concerned about racism – they’re anarchists. We saw how the police did nothing when BLM protests took place in the UK at the height of the lockdown – when I say “did nothing” I mean they did nothing to end the protests or round up protesters for breaking Covid restrictions; they did something, though – they joined in with the protest, “taking the knee” to use the silly coinage which has gone into common parlance since the death of George Floyd.
So, what now? Should the police in the UK show tolerance and even sympathy to these anarchist groups, treat them as domestic terrorists, or set up lines of communication in the hope of winning a few more “converts to sanity” – enabling young people to escape the clutches of these dangerous rebels, and perhaps, in time, with some apostolic endeavour on the part of the Church, convert to Christ?
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Elementary, My Dear Editor,
Nothing is done about BLANTIFA (combining the two terrorist groups) in Democrat-controlled areas because the politicians who control those areas belong to the same evil cult as the anarchists. Thus they either deny that there’s violence (like the infamous TV reporter description of buildings burning in the background as “mostly peaceful protests”), or even deny the existence of these groups (Joke Biden: “Antifa is just an idea”).
On the subject of “converts to sanity,” one of my favorite truth researchers, The Amazing Polly, just did a video on M. Scott Peck’s book, “The People of the Lie.” Mr. Peck distinguishes between psychopaths like Bill Gates, who have no conscience, and people who benefit from associating with him, whom he characterizes as evil because they are just poseurs, virtue-signalers with no intent of virtue. These people, he claims, do have have conscience, but numb it with a fake veneer to avoid facing their sins, and end up accusing others of those very sins to hide their own.
I’d be very interested in what the bloggers think about this video, which is from a strictly psychological perspective (although she starts out by saying the subject seems to combine science and religion). Polly thinks people like Gates are beyond help, but that those she & Peck characterize as evil are redeemable, and that we should reach out to them.
Not exactly a Catholic position, nevertheless (it’s not that long, about 20 minutes)…
https://rumble.com/vf3koz-the-people-of-the-lie-everyday-evil.html
RCA Victor,
I will finish watching that video later but I was put off by it within the first ten minutes – to talk about “healing evil” in the same way as healing a real mental illness is too ridiculous for words IMHO.
I know that Antifa stands for “anti-Fascist” but that bunch of hooligans are the real fascists.
I hadn’t realised Scotland was infested with them as well as BLM so I hope the police take action when they rear their ugly heads. These people are looking for trouble.
As for “racism” – I’m sorry, but I’m at the stage where I would like these people who think we’re all racist, where they would prefer to live, ask them to name a country where they will be treated with the perfection they are looking for and not finding here or in the USA.
Frankly, I think “tolerance” has gone far too far on this. If they don’t like it here (and who would like living with people who are “systemically racist”) than they really should move to another country. I know I would do that if I thought I wasn’t wanted in the country I was living in. I think they know perfectly well that we’re not all racist, but they are just looking for a fight.
There will be individuals, like the excellent young man in the Prager U video, who get caught up in these groups, so yes, I think the Church should be reaching out to them with the message that Christ is the real answer to our problems.
Margaret Mary,
I totally agree with you about “racism” not being true. There are some people who will be racist but we’re not a racist country and Dennis Prager makes this point in an article he wrote about America not being racist. It’s well worth a read. I think what he says applies to the UK as well.
https://dennisprager.com/column/5-arguments-against-america-is-a-racist-country/
Margaret Mary,
I agree, the categorization of evil failing to include psychopaths, but including virtue signalers, was a little odd, but I liked her concluding emphasis on trying to rescue the virtue signalers.
There was a Prager U. video on “tolerance” not long ago (exposing the false redefinition of it to suit the purposes of the globalists), but no time to look for it at the moment.
RCA Victor,
I went onto YouTube to search for the Prager U video on Tolerance and found a few but this one is good – is this the one you mean?
Margaret Mary,
I’d not seen that one before, but it is excellent. The speaker might have added that throwing (or screaming) labels at people who disagree with the party line (now known as the “narrative”) is an old Communist tactic.
RCA Victor,
LOL! I do agree about “the narrative” – you’re left to work out what it means in every conversation!
RCA Victor,
I remember Biden saying that “Antifa is just an idea” – how stupid is he?!
The Amazing Polly video is interesting, but not the Catholic position, as you say.
Evil can only be cast out through Our Lord, Jesus Christ – there’s no other way, to the best of my knowledge.
Lily, Michaela, RCA Victor – et al!
While it is interesting to learn about the various psychological theories about human nature and evil, there is, in fact, only one answer to the question of evil in the world and it is explained best by the dogma of Original Sin – which does NOT mean that – as I heard one radio broadcaster mistakenly say recently – we are all “born bad”; it simply means that we are all born with a tendency to do the wrong thing. It doesn’t come naturally to any of us to “turn the other cheek” and we have a particular weakness in matters sexual, but that doesn’t mean that we are bad or evil. We just say “thank you Adam and Eve, thanks a bunch” and keep heading for the confessional 😀
As for “redeemable” – well, as someone has already pointed out (can’t remember who said what at this point, after a very rushed skim of the thread) EVERYONE is “redeemable” thanks to the Sacrifice of Christ on the Cross.
As for “the Church” reaching out to those involved in Antifa and BLM or the people likely to be drawn into their web, spreading the Faith is our basic Baptismal and Confirmation duty – we exercise our apostolic duty in our daily lives when and where we find ourselves. At one time, organisations such as the Legion of Mary would have mobilised members in order to make contact with the members of such anarchist groups, but now they’re too busy with ecumenical activities and playing at being priests during the Liturgy.
Haven’t watched it yet but will.
This is idle speculation I know, but I’ve often wondered whether psychopaths can be damned for their sins if they’re unaware of doing wrong.
Psychologists say there are 3 types of “paths;” Psychopaths ( born evil, evil by nature), sociopaths (evil by nurture) and narcissopaths.
Mary,
What the Church teaches is that anyone can repent and if they truly repent of their sins, they can be saved. That is why it is not always helpful to go by the psychologists’ categories of people, as if they are like that and can’t change.
Mary
It’s because modern psychology refuses to recognise demonic possession that it categorises various degrees of evil as mental illness. Psycopaths, Sociopaths and narcissists are merely various degrees of evil in the souls of people who have opened themselves up to it by their unrestrained selfishness. People who commit the heinous crimes that these types commit are not mad or sad, they’re just plain bad.
Many thanks Athanasius for clarifying this issue for me.
And many thanks Michaela
RCA Victor,
I sometimes warm to Amazing Polly but not always, and I’m afraid this is one of those “not always” times, LOL!
It’s always interesting to hear the psychologists’ ideas about evil but none of them make as much sense as the basic Christian doctrine of Original Sin.
I always wonder about the claim that anyone (even Bill Gates!) has no conscience.
They must have been given a conscience but any of us can ignore out consciences until they become so dumbed down that they may as well not exist. I still think everyone is “redeemable” – otherwise we would have to believe that Christ didn’t die for certain souls.
Dear Editor,
Thank you for highlighting this very important issue.
Thanks to RCAVictor for his input and great insight.
In response to Lilly’s question ‘re Joe O’Bama – the obvious answer is ‘very’
We do have serious problems in Britain as regards these Marxist outfits. The “lady” founders of blm are self professed Communists.
The black or non white population of Britain is estimated to be 13%. Yet if one had the unfortunate experience of watching ANY commercial TV channel you would be hard pushed to find an advertisement without at least one happy mixed race family. That is before we get to those practitioners of deranged lifestyles presented as ‘normal’
Similarly with sport. Before every football match (soccer for RCAVictor) all participants are forced to genuflect to this satanic cult of blm.
Last week the Polish national team refused to join their English opponents in doing so, and the biased media are still outraged by their actions A Polish commentator said we only genuflect to God (and our wives) Likewise an eastern European team did the same against Wales in Cardiff.
So my advice to anyone like Margaret Mary above is “Go East Young Lady” as the western world is Doomed as Private Fraser would say.
So let us all double down on our prayers.
As Jim Davidson jokingly said .” You need a Black Wife to go and pick out a 3 Piece Suit ” referring of course to the Adverts. Sure the BBC is spending £30Million. on those foolish enough to pay them £157.50p for a Licence Fee ( even if you never watch the BBC ) on Diversity, and we all know what that word really means. Its a Disgrace that if someone pays to say only watch SKY TV ( which of course racially isnt much better ) but still has to pay the Rotten to The Core BBC to keep the likes of Frankie Boyle. Graham Norton and Stephen Fry to name but 3 Reprobates £Millions a year. As for this taking a Knee after that Colin Kapernkickers . I was disgusted when i seen the Football Team i used to support doing the same. A team who Fielded the First Coloured Player and HE had to Listen as 40.000 chanted that he was a Darkie and not one word was said. A Glasgow Team who Employed a Man who suffered the Worst Racial and Religious Hatred and Violence than any other sportsman Black or White in The U.K. and Nothing was done ,not a thing.
Patrick Healy: Re disproportionate number of ethnics in adverts; is this not “gaslighting? ” Part of a vicious attack on Western civilisation by those who want to destroy it, (communists, communitarists, globalist mafia seeking power, etc etc). They’re trying to demoralise us, make us feel worthless and accept our extinction as inevitable ; I understand that perhaps we Westerners are particularly susceptible to it since we have a culture of self- examination which is good in itself, but can be distorted and used against us without us realising..
I hardly ever watch TV but have watched the Sicilian detective Montalbano. Generally very enjoyable, lovely scenery, good stories and acting, sometimes very funny; but full of subliminal brainwashing and gaslighting of native Sicilians. They get portrayed as stupid, selfish, wimpish, immoral, full of empty religiosity , and White Male bad. Non -Sicilians, newcomers, are NEVER portrayed like that.
Here is a link you may find interesting.
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/apr/18/coronavirus-and-smell-saul-alinsky
Most people are, deplorably, unaware of the Frankfurt School methods to imperceptibly and gradually undermine Western civilisation. First implemented by communists from the 1930’s, but now being used against us by our various enemies (“Communitarists” rather than communists , globalist criminal cabals etc and also 5th columnists within Britain USA and elsewhere. In Britain there is the Fabian Society (named I think after Fabius Cunctator who defeated Hannibal through surreptitious delaying tactics rather than quick direct attack? ).
These people are enemies of the Catholic Church as it is the greatest protection against their evil schemes. Their first aim was to empty the churches particularly Catholic, destroy the family, destroy the nation state and cause mayhem and despair.
Antifa and BLM are part of this evil plan although they disguise as fighting against the injustice of racism. In reality they dont care about anybody of whatever colour, all that matters is the success of their grand plan.
It goes without saying that we can’t look to the authorities for help.
Mary,
That is a brilliant link – I copied the opening part of it because it is eye-opening but the whole article is fantastic. I’ve heard of Alinsky but didn’t know much about him. Your article is a real education, here is the beginning of it:
“Communist-minded community organizer Saul Alinsky, in his prologue to “Rules for Radicals,” explained that the most effective activists were those who worked within the established “system,” not against it, so as to stir the revolutionary pots of change through fear.
His words: “Any revolutionary change must be preceded by a passive, affirmative, non-challenging attitude toward change among the mass of our people. They must feel so frustrated, so defeated, so lost, so futureless in the prevailing system that they are willing to let go of the past and chance the future,” Archives.org noted.
This is Coronavirus Chaos, exemplified. ” End.
I found the whole article really enlightening. It’s what we know is actually happening right now. Can’t thank you enough for posting it.
I did a comment which disappeared ! but in short it tried to show how our enemies are using Frankfurt School methods to undermine Western civilisation, Hers a relevant link about refugee Alinsky who repaid America’s hospitality by planting the slow seeds of destruction there.
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/apr/18/coronavirus-and-smell-saul-alinsky/
Antifa and BLM are part of the disruptive plan , I’m sure they get Soros funding; they dont care about people of any colour ; thats not what theyre all about. Our authorities will NEVER help us
These thugs are getting away with behaviour that is only going to worsen, as a result of the passive policing. They are on a mission to destroy civilisation, and I will be very surprised that we don’t end up in a near civil war if things get out of hand here as they have done in the U SA and everybody knows that what happens in the USA today, happens here tomorrow.
I was appalled when I saw the BLM protesters in Glasgow (and London) being allowed to run wild through George Square, during lockdown when there was a ready made reason to round them up and cart them off to jail.
It’s definitely a case of one rule for them and another rule for us. Same with the climate change nutcases. They can do what they want and the police will not act, but one old lady protesting against lockdown gets bundled into a police van. I went on YouTube to search for the video which I’d seen here originally, and I found it. Here it is and it is a big contrast to see how she is not allowed to protest while these Antifa/BLM louts are allowed to run amok, destroying statues and setting fires. It’s a disgrace.
Michaela,
How did the British police behave before the scam-demic descended upon us? Was there any clue that they would become thugs enforcing illegal edicts?
RCA Victor,
The British police have always had a reputation for being respectful, for the most part. The emphasis here is on “policing by consent” so it’s not pleasant to see the tactics of a totalitarian regime being introduced. That’s come as a shock to people like me who have always held the police in high esteem. I can’t say I ever saw any clue that they would “become thugs enforcing illegal edicts.”
I’m afraid I’ve lost all respect for the police now, and also for the medical profession. I no longer trust any if them. Before the Scottish court found against the government regarding church closures, I’d have lumped them in as well, but they have restored my faith a bit in the court system.
Michaela,
For the most part, I’m sure you are correct, but I did witness police behaviour some years ago that left me wary of ever getting on the wrong side of the law…
Still, I suppose that’s no bad thing 😀
Victor having had some difficulties in my youth of telling the Police they were wrong ( and actually sometimes they were ) it was better then just to, let’s say just give them a little donation . Rather than be Fined Larger amounts of Money going through The Court Systems which also resulted in more lost money due to loss of Work . That was the way they operated back then. Having though been on the wrong side of Drug Dealers due to where I used to live . For the help I received which was actually None they were about as Useful As An Ashtray On A Motorbike.
Editor,
Excuse the diversion, but this is a reply to Patrick Healy from the Easter thread (no room for more replies there).
Patrick,
While you are trying to convert Pope Francis, perhaps you could book him a trip by ground transportation (e.g. camel) to Damascus, where he might hopefully hear the words
“Bergoglio, Bergolio, why persecutest thou Me?”
As for Editor’s ban on verse, I don’t know what her rhyme or reason is, but you might try posting an image of a chocolate bar at the top of your well-versed post, to distract her…
RCA Victor,
Patrick is telling porky pies – there’s no ban on verse; I must have slipped up at some point and mentioned that I’m not a great fan of poetry/verse but I don’t mind other people enriching their souls in that way. I’ve even benefited, occasionally, from the odd “there was a wee man from Dunoon, who said he’d be home very soon, but the bus was late, and he had to wait, so he wasn’t home very soon after all…” 😀
I dread the rise of Antifa and Black Lives Matter in Scotland. It is awful think they have already called for police and white people to be killed here. If the police don’t act to control these groups, there will be the same chaos on our streets that we’ve seen in the USA.
The Church should be speaking out more to explain that no Christian can be racists – and the majority are not, quoting scripture such as the Good Samaritan and other parts which show that no follower of Christ can be prejudiced against anyone because of their race.
Josephine,
It’s now quite acceptable to speak about hating white people – even white people say it, LOL!
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/german-catholics-chafe-against-vaticans-120604046.html
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