Why Is The Remnant Promoting “Controversial” Akita Apparition?
Comment:
At one time, I was convinced of the truth of the Akita apparitions. The “Cardinals against Cardinals, Bishops against Bishops” did it for me. I didn’t join up the dots at all. It didn’t occur to me that Cardinals and Bishops had been opposing one another since before the Second Vatican Council and even publicly during the Council – click here to read an account of the microphone being switched off during Cardinal Ottaviani’s challenge to the liberals on the floor, on the third day of the Council – and how those Enemies of the Church openly laughed at him.
Then there was the public dissent throughout the Church which followed the publication of Humanae vitae, encyclical of Pope Paul VI affirming the Church’s teaching on Birth Control, dated 25 July 1968 and released at a Vatican press conference on 29 July, 1968. So, well before the alleged Akita apparitions, we had cardinals and bishops openly opposing one another. To be “prophesied” in 1973, doesn’t make sense. As I say, I was an “Akita believer” because I failed to join up the dots.
Indeed, as recently as February, 2021, I posted a thread on the topic, under the title “Akita Confirms Fatima Message” – click here to read that discussion. I was so convinced of the truth of Akita that I posted a video without prior scrutiny, to launch the discussion. Hence my surprise when I read the following comment from blogger, Athanasius:
I watched the introductory video for this thread and I have to say that a few things left me a little concerned about Akita.
The first of these was Sister Agnes’ twin reference to an accompanying angel in prayer as “she”. I have never heard of an angel being referred to as “she”. The other thing that struck me was how modernist the chapel and nuns look, and how unbecoming the image of Our Lady is. There was no hint of a restoration of Tradition there, as I would have expected given the warnings of Our Lady about the apostasy taking place in the Church. It’s almost as if the post-conciliar reform is not seen as the principal cause of this apostasy.
Fatima indicates the truth of things in the opening line of the text of the Third Secret: “In Portugal the dogmas of the Faith will be preserved…etc.”, indicating that the chastisement is primarily spiritual in nature. Akita mentions apostasy but seems to focus more on a terrible material chastisement of the world by God, to the extent that few will be left and the living will envy the dead. This seems at odds with Our Lady’s Fatima promise that in the end her Immaculate Heart will triumph and a time of peace will be granted to the world. I’m not saying that a Third World War will not happen when there is every likelihood at this time that such a catastrophe may well happen soon. But even if that comes about, the punishment of wars and other natural disasters belongs properly to the Second part of the Fatima Secret, not the Third part. The Third Secret of Fatima is exclusively a supernatural chastisement afflicting the Church and the world, there is no WWIII in there.
The fall of many consecrated Catholic souls and billions of other souls worldwide, the result of the present universal apostasy from God, is by far a greater chastisement than any mere material annihilation. So why is emphasis placed more on material rather than spiritual loss at Akita? I was also a bit concerned by the claim that if the sins of men continue there will be no more forgiveness. But isn’t God infinitely merciful, always desiring to forgive?
[Ed: in the comments following, another blogger linked to a sermon of St Alphonsus Ligouri on this subject On the Number of Sins Beyond Which God Pardons No More )
Other things that made me a little uncomfortable were 1. The local Ordinary’s apparent belief in the apparitions before his investigation even began. Bishops normally start out with the opposite view. 2. The three different blood groups identified by scientists from three separate examinations of the tears. 3. The mark of the Cross appearing on only one hand of Sister Agnes, the left hand. This is not the usual manifestation of the stigmata. 4. Sister Agnes said at one point that people should pay less attention to the “form” of prayers and concentrate more on content. Content is of course very important, but the form of our Catholic prayers is also essential. We all see the bitter fruits of changes to the form of the sacred liturgy, the Church’s highest and most perfect prayer, the Sacrifice of Our Lord. There were one or two other anomalies that I’ll pass on right now.
Suffice it to say I have been left very uncertain about Akita. The people interviewed, including Sister Agnes, seemed sincere enough, and nothing was said that was obviously contradictory of Catholic doctrine, yet I have problems believing it. I have no such problems with Fatima and Quito, but Akita troubles me. I think the Vatican should investigate Akita and give a definitive decision on it. Ends.
Now, if there is one thing that I don’t want to do is to appear to be criticising The Remnant – I mean, the Pope, yes, that’s fine, but The Remnant? American Catholic Truth readers will never forgive me! Regular visitors to this site will know that I frequently post Remnant TV videos here to kick-start our discussions – and they are always excellent. I am just a tad concerned to find a certain preoccupation with Akita, placing it almost on the same level of importance as Fatima. Interviews with key traditional leaning prelates (such as Archbishop Viganò) have been published in The Remnant where the prelate has identified the Consecration of Russia as the key to ending our ongoing misery, so it puzzles me that Michael Matt would choose to promote Akita rather than use his impressive resources to campaign for the Consecration of Russia.
We are very small fry, and although we do highlight the need for the Consecration on a regular basis we don’t have the means by which to take a campaign to the Vatican. Maybe I’m wrong on this but it seems to me that such a campaign would be much more likely to be Heaven-blessed and fruitful than the promotion of an alleged apparition which Michael Matt himself describes as “incredibly controversial”.
Am I wrong on this? Speak your mind – nobody gets “cancelled” here!
Comments (58)
I was once favourable to Akita but am now seriously doubtful about it. The Akita statue itself was carved by a Buddhist using the image of the now-discredited ‘Our Lady of All Nations’ apparitions. https://gloria.tv/post/SkZP99iq74jk2z8iARMGbf9oH and https://gloria.tv/post/sEd7UykHqGZe1pU9Vki1gYoxT Would God permit an image of a false apparition to be used in order to convey a genuine heavenly message? That seems unlikely to me. But to be fair to the Remnant, other good Catholic apostolates and individuals (like the Fatima Network, Fr Gruner RIP, Chris Ferrara, and others) write and speak of Akita in a favourable sense, so I wouldn’t like the Remnant to be singled out in this regard.
By the way, the whole Dr Mark Miravalle / Vox Populi Mariae Mediatrici (3rd Marian dogma) movement is heavily connected to the now-condemned Our Lady of All Nations apparitions.
WF,
The Remnant was only “singled out” because a reader sent me the above video yesterday. But, yes, thank you for highlighting the fact that support for Akita is – rather worryingly – widespread.
Sorry, I didn’t mean to imply that you were singling The Remnant out deliberately, and I agree that support for Akita – and also I’ve noticed Garabandal as well – are worryingly widepread among traditional Catholic groups and individuals. As Laura says below, I believe we should all stick to promoting the full Fatima message especially the Consecration of Russia. Nothing else is going to work.
WF,
Don’t apologise – I’m suing you anyway 😀
You are right, of course, in that too many “traditional” groups and individuals support questionable apparitions – and yes, I’ve also noticed Garabandel is high on the list.
It puzzles me because, as Laura and you say, nothing but the Fatima Consecration is going to work. Our Lady has revealed that, so that is where all our energies should go.
Westminster Fly,
It looks to me like Michael J. Matt is promoting Akita under “Remnant Tours” – that was on the back of his jacket, so it looks like he plans to take groups there. That would mean he should be “singled out” as people need to be warned off following dodgy apparitions and The Remnant is one of the best-known traditional newspapers..
I cannot see why anyone wants to push devotions to controversial apparitions which allegedly happened after Fatima, when (as Fr Gruner RIP used to say) Fatima was the most important event of the 20th century.
Our Lady at Fatima not only prophesied the spread of Communism, which is happening right now across the world, but she gave us the cure – the Consecration of Russia. Why would Michael J Matt or Chris Ferrara or anyone else not want to push for that, instead of going all the way to Japan to visit the Akita convent? It doesn’t make sense to me at all.
Laura,
I would be amazed (and scandalised) if Remnant Tours organises “pilgrimages” to Akita. Let’s hope that was just the first jacket which came to hand when he was heading for the airport 😀
Westminster Fly,
I had to “take two” as the saying goes when I read that the Akita statue was carved by a Buddhist! What?!! Right-off, that’s a clue, if I needed one, that this is one apparition that is not authentic.
I was also inclined to believe in Akita but some things did cross my mind to make me doubt it from time to time, such as why would Our Lady appear to a nun in a modernist convent when Sister Lucy was still alive in her enclosed Carmelite convent in 1973. She didn’t die until 2005.
The crying statues also don’t convince me.
Lily,
“…why would Our Lady appear to a nun in a modernist convent when Sister Lucy was still alive in her enclosed Carmelite convent in 1973.”
As Editor has been known to say, esp. when trying to imitate an American accent:
“BINGO!”
Was the convent of Coimbra modernist or Traditional? Do you know at which Mass Sister Lucia assisted, the Traditional Mass or the Pauline rite?
Miles Immaculatae,
Very good questions.
Most Carmels (to the best of my knowledge) were very slow to go down the modernist road. Even today, Carmelite nuns wear the full Habit, for example. Some have slightly changed the veil but still permit the Sisters to choose whether or not to switch to the new “fashion”.
As for the Mass – Sr Lucy would have attended the novus ordo. She would have had no option.
When I raised this with a traditional priest some years ago, curious about whether or not Sr Lucy (who grew up with the TLM) would have tried to have the old Mass restored, he told me that, no, she had a specific mission from Heaven, to spread the Fatima Message and since she had no authority over the liturgy, but was subject to religious obedience, she would have had to attend the convent Mass.
The above is all “as far as I know” – if Sr Lucy’s Carmel was different in either respect, so be it. I am merely recounting what I know to be the norm. Before the current madness took hold, I used to visit a Carmelite nun-friend here in Scotland fairly regularly, and (again, as far as I can see) they appear to have held fast to the Rule of the Order. I steer clear of criticising Papa Francis though – I have a strong sense that I might be either kicked out on the spot and/or banned from ever visiting again. 😀
Thank you for this informative reply. This will help me to respond to anti-Traditional Catholics and false friends of Fatima.
Miles
If you want to respond to false friends of Fatima, send them the link to Chris Ferrara’s book which is called – appropriately – ‘The False Friends of Fatima’! The full book is available free online here:- http://fatima.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/False-Friends-of-Fatima.pdf or you can buy the hard copy on Amazon or from the Fatima Network.
I’ve visited the Carmel chapel at Coimbra several times (the chapel is open to the public and is obviously separate from the Carmel enclosure). You can see the grille at the right side of the altar, where the sisters can see Mass, and a door covered by a red curtain in the corner of the Sanctuary where Holy Communion is taken into them. The novus ordo Mass is offered there and was during Sr Lucia’s time. One or two of the sisters were in the chapel while I was in there once, working in the Sanctuary (altar linen etc). They wore the full Carmel habit. As for their general orthodoxy, I couldn’t say. However, they definitely tow the Vatican party lines on the 3rd Secret and the Consecration of Russia. All the printed output from the Carmel clearly shows that. A museum to Sr Lucia, run by the Carmel, has been built in the street round the corner to the chapel. It is fascinating, I could have spent hours in there, but was with a group, so didn’t get to spend as long as I’d liked to have. Just as an aside – the two statues of the Sacred and Eucharistic Heart of Jesus and the Immaculate Heart of Mary in the chapel were commissioned by the Carmel after Sr Lucia received heavenly direction as to exactly how the statues should look, which she passed on to the sculptors. They are beautiful and still in the chapel to this day.
WF,
That’s very interesting indeed, that you visited the Carmel at Coimbra.
Photographs of Sister Lucia (including with other nuns) show that she/they wore the full traditional Habit.
That’s the first I’ve heard of those statues – fascinating.
RCA Victor,
What do you mean “…trying to imitate an American accent”?
I think my American accent is fantastic. I really do. Lots of people have said “you should move to America with an accent like that…”
Nothing wrong with my American accent. I DO Have to work on my humility, though, I’ll give you that …
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Editor,
We’d be delighted to have you here in the formerly free USA, but I would suggest you plan on locating in Appalachia, where there are many descendant of Scots who speak with the same accent….
RCA Victor,
I’d never heard of Appalachia, so I took a minute to check it out and it was very interesting to discover the “Scottish” connection – that there were, originally, Scots-Irish settlers in that part of the USA. It would be too simple, wouldn’t it, if it were New York. Had to be some unpronounceable place. Anyway, I digress…
Then to discover that the term “hillbillies” derives from those original settlers who were devoted to King Billy, identifies those same original “Scots-Irish” settlers as Protestants. More likely to have come from Belfast than Glasgow, but that’s another story…
Honestly, the one thing I’ll never give up for Lent, is watching/reading detective stories 😀
Editor,
Here’s the musical element about them there hillbillies:
“Just like the history of cultures or art, there are many factors that affect the birth of a unique and identifiable style or type of music. Appalachian music is no exception. Fiona Ritchie and Douglas Orr (2014) describe Appalachian music as, “a tapestry of a cappella ballads, dances, fiddle tunes, banjo music, and sacred music” (p. 213). It is generally thought that the songs and fiddle tunes of Scots- Irish settlers formed the foundation that was built upon by many other settlers and their own unique musical traditions.”
Hmmm…no mention of bagpipes….
RCA Victor,
I laughed at the “unique musical traditions” and your mention of the bagpipes. It reminds me of an old joke that goes like this.
The Irish gave the Scots the bagpipes as a joke, but the Scots still don’t get it! LOL!
Lily,
I remember a young Protestant man saying to me years ago that now it was a miracle if you could find a statue that wasn’t crying 😀
I am certainly wary of the Crying Statue Phenomenons from different sources .As for Akita to be Honest i personally have not read enough on it to make any Judgement ,not that my opinion matters ,but am certainly a doubting Thomas, so to speak. As of Fatima that holds no doubts whatsoever, as it comes under the same rigorous investigation as Lourdes. As for the forgiving of Sins source, Christ in all of his Teachings never, ( to my mind ) said that we would never be forgiven. If am right He said that the unforgivable Sin which Judas committed was to Despair and not ask for forgiveness. I remember one Homily an old Priest gave, of course he did say it may not have been true. And it was that after Christs Burial Our Blessed Lady met the Mother of Judas to console Her. Truth or fact who knows, and i think its much the same as Akita. Of course we all know Christ told us to beware of false Prophets also .As for M.M and The Remnant i love the Guy but just like I He has fallen Human Nature.
Editor:
I have wondered about Akita for some years. My dear wife (RIP) had done some research on this question due to our daughter writing a school report on a place of interest in Japan. Below are the results of her research. Meantime, I should note that Bp. Williamson also promotes Akita. But then, doesn’t he promote many questionable private revelations?
Gandalf
*The “Bleeding Statue”*
Scientific analysis of blood and tears from the statute provided by Professor Sagisaka of the faculty of Legal Medicine of the University of Akita confirmed that the blood, tears, and perspiration are real human tears, sweat, and blood. They come from three blood groups: O, B, and AB. Our Lord and Our Lady had the same blood type, of course, and from the Shroud it was shown to be the rarest kind, AB+, http://www.theworkofgod.org/Aparitns/Akita.htm
Eventually, Bishop Ito arranged for Professor Sagisaka, M.D., a non-Christian specialist in forensic medicine, to make a rigorous scientific examination of the three fluids, although the Bishop did not reveal their source. The results were: “The matter adhering on the gauze is human blood. The sweat and the tears absorbed in the two pieces of cotton are of human origin.” The blood was found to belong to group B and the sweat and tears to group AB. Sr. Agnes belongs to group B. http://www.catholictradition.org/Mary/akita.htm
Another examination of the fluids was conducted by Dr. Sagisaka of the Department of Forensic Medicine, School of Medicine, University of Akita. The results were given on November 30, 1981 and revealed that: “The object examined has adhering to it human liquids which belong to the blood group O.” Since the first analysis revealed that the blood belonged to group B and the sweat and tears to group AB, it has been established that the fluids belong to three different blood groups. It is a medical fact that the blood, tears and sweat of an individual all belong to the same blood group. One fluid cannot differ in type from the other fluids of the same body. Since Sr. Agnes belonged to group B she could not have “ejected and transferred” blood or fluids belonging to group AB or O. http://www.catholictradition.org/Mary/akita.htm
If the bishop of the diocese had carried out a proper canonical investigation, he would have had to condemn this event or at least state plainly there was no evidence of supernatural original of these supposed phenomena based on the blood evidence as quoted above.
*The Statue Itself*
The statue of Our Lady which supposedly bled at Akita was a copy of the statue of Our Lady of All Nations, supposedly an approved apparition which occurred in the Netherlands in 1945. The reader is referred to a rather complete study of this apparition here: http://www.unitypublishing.com/Apparitions/all-nations.htm. To summarize, the “apparition” was condemned several times during the days when the bishop carried out the canonical investigation properly. It subsequently became suddenly “approved” when a new bishop did not adhere to the Traditional norms and gave a contradictory approval which allowed devotion although the supernatural origin of the “apparition” had not been established. I can only conclude that Our Lady would not use a likeness of herself fashioned in order to promote a false apparition in order to draw people to her messages by any phenomena, e.g., “bleeding.”
*The Message*
We need to recall that when Our Lady appeared to St. Bernadette at Lourdes, many other supposed “apparitions” took place all around the French countryside. Why? The devil was trying to distract souls from the truth of Lourdes. In like manner, we can well believe that the devil uses all manner of distractions in this digital age in order to distract from the truth of Fatima.
Gandalfolorin,
Your wife’s (RIP) research has borne much fruit. Those scientific tests nail the case, as far as I can see.
I also agree with your comment about the devil – that is always the case, the devil does his best to distract from the truth and apparitions are a major example of that IMHO.
It’s disappointing, though, that Michael J. Matt has been fooled by it.
Laura,
I agree that it is disappointing that Michael Matt has been fooled by Akita, but it is also extremely surprising. I wouldn’t have thought he would take it seriously after an initial examination of the facts.
One thought that crossed my mind is this; some people have interpreted his calls to “unite the clans” as revealing a kind of desperate urgency to end the crisis. The thinking (I’m told) seems to be that if we don’t bother about where we attend Mass and just go along to get along – LMS, SSPX, FSSP, ICK etc – that will be a good thing. Well, maybe, but I doubt if it would have the same effect as the Consecration of Russia, as set out by Our Lady to Sister Lucia. And as we’re uncovering on this thread, promoting “incredibly controversial” apparitions certainly isn’t going to bring an end to the crisis in the Church.
One thing’s for sure, though… whatever “unite the clans” means, it’s got nothing to do with Scotland… 😀
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Editor,
I grew tired of MM’s videos at least a year ago, since it seems he always falls back on a sentimental appeal such as “unite the clans.” Moreover, his videos are always noticeably short on “penance, penance, penance,” as far as I can recall.
I have a little prayer card from the Fatima Center with an image of the “Vision of Tuy.” On the back, one of the heavenly messages it records is “THE GOOD WILL BE MARTYRED.”
Anyone ever heard MM do a video from that perspective?
I’ve never investigated Akita (I paid Athanasius to do it for me…), but the evidence presented here is very convincing.
RCA Victor,
Well, I can’t lay claim to being a huge advocate of penance, penance penance. As you know, I have a number of mottos in that regard… Here’s one…
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Seriously, he may take the same view that I take myself in that I’m not really in a position to preach about penance – I tend to NOT set a great example in that line, but if we spread the Fatima message, we can hope and pray that others will take the hint 😀
RCA Victor,
I think you’re right about the sentimental “unite the clans” appeal. When I first heard it, it made me think of the ecumenical movement – same difference, as we say here.
Where his videos are useful is in putting together the various globalists and including Francis to show what is behind his ridiculous un-Catholic statements, e.g. about one-world government and the environment. Those videos are useful.
I think he could do a lot more detailed stuff about Fatima and showing how that links with the globalist/Communist push across the world.
You are right – we all need to pay more attention to the “penance, penance, penance” part of the Fatima message.
Gandalf,
Great to hear/see from you – seems ages since you paid us a visit.
I agree with Laura about the wonderful research work conducted by your wife, RIP.
Excellent point, too, about the apparitions which sprang up in the area after Our Lady appeared at Lourdes. “Old Nick” has turned around the adage about “crises”, by twisting it to mean “never let a good apparition go to waste”.
I’m on record as saying that Medjugorje is the Devil’s answer to Fatima and so I have no problem seconding your assertion about Akita.
As for Bishop Williamson – Phew! Thank goodness his goings-on needn’t concern us any more. God help him.
Gandalf
The excellent research carried out by your late wife, God rest her soul, is, for me, the strongest reinforcement of the conclusions reached from my own research, which Editor very graciously highlighted in the intro to this thread.
Let’s just sum up the dubious issues: 1. No mention of Fatima. 2. Stigmata in left hand only, a sign that the devil may be at work. 3. Sister Agnes referring to the angel who appeared as “her”. 4. The statue is copied from a now-condemned apparition. 5. The Akita church is utterly Modernist and there’s no condemnation by Our Lady of Conciliar Modernism. 6. The suggestion of prayer without form is Modernist/Charismatic. 7. the blood, sweat and tears examined are from three different people.
We should also remember that Rome has not declared on this apparition, just as it has not declared on the false apparition of Medjugorje, hence it’s best avoided.
People are very easily drawn to sensationalism, especially to prophecsied apocalyptic events, and that can be extremely dangerous given the cleverness of Satan to mislead. One apocalyptic message that all Traditional Catholics should pay heed to, however, is that in these end times of the world even the elect are at risk of deception unless they stick rigidly to Church approved apparitions and leave all others to the curious.
Athanasius,
“Gracious”? Me? Moi? That’s very encouraging, very kind of you… I thought only I, me, myself appreciated us… 😀
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Editor
Just consider my words as those of a sook looking for extra zeros!!
Athanasius,
Aren’t we all, LOL!
I agree – the evidence on this thread is very convincing – nothing to see here, move along.
Has Michael Matt been sent the link to this thread? IMHO, he ought to read it.
Michaela,
As a matter of fact, I hadn’t sent the link to Michael Matt, but on reading your “humble opinion”, I decided to email the link just now, with the following brief message…
Hello there,
I thought I ought to let you know that we are discussing your video on Akita over on the Catholic Truth blog in Scotland. I hope you are not offended – I’d hate to have to side with Joe Biden on gun control…
You have to laugh (let’s hope Michael does, as well 😀 )
Editor,
Has Michael Matt replied to your email? I’m sure he will read the thread but I would like to know if it changes his mind on Akita.
Michaela,
In haste, as I’m supposed to be elsewhere ten minutes ago 😀 – no reply yet. I didn’t ask for a reply of course – the main thing being that he reads the thread.
PS in case you’re thinking of our (some time ago now) “courtesy” thread, I think it IS important to always reply to emails; I know how difficult that can be, of course, but it never takes long to say “thank you for that – will check it out” So I deny that I am one of those people who will never say two words when a hundred will suffice 😀
Editor,
TBH I’d only be surprised if you did get a reply from Michael Matt because, speaking in general, males don’t take criticism well, even if it’s very carefully expressed, so even you criticising yourself for falling for Akita won’t make any difference, IMHO. Men find it hard to take criticism, especially from women, so I doubt if you’ll hear back from Michael Matt on this.
Michaela,
Well, I think the majority of people, whether male or female, struggle to accept criticism, and tend to take it personally so I’m not sure about men in particular being prone to this weakness.
Michael Matt is undoubtedly a very busy person, with mail to deal with from all over the world, I’m sure, so I’m not concerned about not getting a reply. I do hope he reads the thread, though, because I wouldn’t imagine (in my wildest nightmares) that he would continue to promote Akita after reading the well documented information here.
I would be especially concerned if he did so because a friend told me only yesterday that his very good broadcasts on Covid/Great Reset have drawn a lot of Protestants to his platform. It would be particularly disappointing, to say the least, if those people were misled by this dubious apparition.
Michaela,
I am highly offended by your remarks about men – so much so that I’m going to withdraw into a corner, pout, and consider identifying as an unoffended male!
JUST KIDDING!
Anyway, if you or anyone here has a Facebook page, you could message MM with a little poke to remind him that we are discussing some “inconvenient truths” (with apologies to Al Gore) about Akita.
RCA Victor,
That’s a relief. I thought you might decide to identify as a female. We have enough nuts in the female world… er… so to speak 😀
For the record, I didn’t mean to suggest that Michael Matt won’t have read my email – I don’t think that for a second. I believe he’ll have read it by now but “busy, busy, busy” is a very good excuse for not answering messages – especially if Michaela is right about men not being too fond of any criticism, perceived or otherwise… So, I thought I would make that excuse for him and explain that I really don’t mind not receiving [the courtesy of] a reply, as long as he stops promoting the false apparition.
Time will tell…
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I’m glad to see something said objectively about Akita. I was surprised to learn of the three different blood types. That to me is a dead giveaway that it is a fake apparition.
Hello, Thurifer! Great to hear from you, or at least “see” you again!
Yes, the blood etc findings – talk about “follow the science”!
We all know that Protestants and modernist ‘Catholics’ believe in in wacky stuff like tongue-speaking and Medjugorje, yet as many Traditional and Traditional-minded Catholics have the same tendency to believe in apparitions of dubious authenticity, for example, Garabandal, which I have heard promoted by well-known Traditional Catholic clergy. Why is there this mystical tendency among some Traditional Catholics?
I am sceptical of La Sallete, Akita, and the Divine Mercy devotion. I do not believe the Divine Mercy devotion is heterodox in any way, I only simply believe it is unlikely to have been revealed to Sister Faustina by God, and I believe this for a few reasons: the banality of the iconography, the use of rosary beads for the DM chaplet (which is a distraction from the proper use of the beads), and that it seems to blur the distinction between itself and devotion to the Sacred Heart. The people I have met who were devotees of Sister Faustina’s message have been fanatical pentecostalist ‘Catholics’, so-called ‘charsimatics’.
I have noticed an alarming trend among some Traditional and Traditional-minded Catholics is a fascination for the preternatural, possession, exorcism and ‘deliverance ministry’ etc.. This has been promoted by Fr Chad Ripperger, an American priest of the Priestly Fraternity of Saint Peter which was founded in order to protest against Archbishop Lefebvre. Father Ripperger has pentecostalist tendencies as demonstrated by his promotion of dodgy theology, for example the belief in ‘generational spirits’. He also said that Leviathan is the demon of lesbianism, and I am willing to bet on it that the Church has never said such thing. If it is true that Leviathan is the cause of Lesbianism then Fr R should keep this information to himself, because it’s private revelation and not part of the Church’s teaching. Much else of what he says is frankly bizarre. If He seems to want to be a celebrity exorcist, which is disturbing. If I was possessed I would want him nowhere near me, assuming I had sufficient mental capacity to express my will. Traditional Catholics, don’t be fooled! These people are merely modernists in lace!
Miles Immaculatae,
I share your scepticism list. Every one – and I am also concerned that so many Catholics seek for the sensational – such as apparitions etc.
If they spent more time in solid spiritual reading they would find that the great saints (beginning with St Paul) warn against looking for signs and wonders. The devil can easily deceive those who seek for such signs; he gets at us through our pride, so it is wise to avoid all such Google searches 😀
Miles
Have you seen this book on the Divine Mercy Devotion by M M Anthony? https://www.mycatholicsource.com/mcs/ua/user_article-faustinas_divine_mercy_devotion.htm I think most of it is online at that site, but you can buy it on Amazon. A real eye opener.
Thank you for link.
There’s some great information on this thread. Like others, I can’t understand why anyone would bother with any dubious apparition claims when we still have not had the fulfilment of the Fatima message. And until that is done, i.e. the Consecration of Russia we will be trapped in this transition into Communism.
However, as I think has been said in other places on this blog, it’s amazing how the Americans do not seem to be able to really grasp what is going on re. the virus. Except RCA Victor, of course, LOL!
You would think that they would see our drastic restrictions and lockdowns in the UK and Ireland and the continent of Europe, and realise that we are actually under Communism right now. The only reason it is taking more time to get embedded in the USA is because of their system of having states govern themselves. It will take longer but the professor who interviewed Sister Lucia in 1946 reported that Our Lady did say that Communism would spread to every country including America. So, why Michael Matt is bothering about Akita, beats me. I don’t think it was claimed that Communism was even mentioned at Akita.
In fact, why does anybody bother with unapproved or doubtfully approved apparitions when it is so painfully obvious that God sent Our Lady to Fatima to warn us of exactly what is happening right now – the spread of Communism. She didn’t say how, and I suppose most of us thought it would be done through a war but no, it’s through a virus, through instilling fear into populations and imposing totalitarian rule – that’s how. One of the Chinese leaders (I forget his name) said that they would take over the world without firing a single shot. That is exactly what they are doing and hardly anyone can see it.
Fidelis,
Well said – I can’t improve on your comment one little bit… Some people are quicker off the mark, though… like this woman’s husband!
https://jokeoftheday.org/wp-content/uploads/marriage15.jpg
One of our American bloggers, Marinaio, has emailed a comment for this thread; due to a technical problem, he has been unable to post it himself…
FROM MARINAIO…
I wanted to comment on the Akita posting, but [due to a technical problem] I was unable to do so. I wanted to point out that I have always found that with all the good in these alleged apparitions, there is always something that jumps out at anyone with a sensus Catholicus. Palmar de Troya (which [my wife] and I visited), Medjugorje, and Bayside, New York. At Bayside, the Blessed Mother was quoted by the seers as telling the faithful not to worry if someone is in mortal sin when they approach the altar rail, as Our Lord flees from the host in those cases!?! End of comment.
Thank you for that extremely important observation. These days, our “Catholic sense” isn’t always as sharp as it ought to be, deluged as we are with one scandal after another, and that coming from the very top, so it is a very timely reminder that we really ought to be doubly on our guard when considering alleged apparitions.
The cult of El Palmar de Troya received its first episcopal consecration from Archbishop Thuc, who consecrated several sedevacantist bishops. Traditional Catholics definitely aren’t immune to false prophets and seers!
Miles Immaculatae,
Nobody here ever said “Traditional Catholics are immune to false prophets and seers”
I didn’t mean to intimate this. I am sure that Traditional Catholics who comment on Catholic Truth are a different calibre and would not fall for such nonsense.
I was referring misguided souls such as Archbishop Thuc, who (deludedly) believed themselves to be the flag bearers of Catholic Tradition.
I can’t say how surprised I am that Michael Matt has fallen for the Akita claimed apparition. Hopefully, the brilliant information published here will convince him to drop it. If he continues to promote it, though, I’m afraid I’ll not be the same Remnant fan that I have been for years.
Nicky,
You’re unlikely to be alone in that decision. Let’s hope he does drop the Akita promotion… yesterday!
I don’t mean to cause dissension, but I’m interested, very much, in this discussion because I have been concerned for a while about the Remnant. It isn’t what it used to be, IMHO.
I don’t read the print copy any more and only occasionally read their website, but I’ve had a feeling for a good while now (mostly seeing their videos) that there’s no real urgency about the situation, either in the Church or the world. The Editor here has described the videos as “excellent” but I have a slightly different take. I see that, yes, there is some substantial material in them, but Michael Matt’s light-hearted presentations, even some little bouts of laughter at key points, suggests a lack of seriousness and I think it lends support to those who say that what he is reporting, rightly so, of course, from the World Economic Forum etc is just a “conspiracy theory”.
Seeing that video of Michael J. Matt going off to Japan just reinforces that feeling. What is the point? Is the “Vatican cover up” of Akita more important than the Vatican cover up of the Third Secret? I think not.
As for the information provided here about Akita – if that doesn’t convince him, nothing will. I fear, though, that the fact that he hasn’t acknowledged the Editor’s email suggests that his documentary will go ahead. If he doesn’t include the facts provided here, that will speak volumes.
Lacy,
I have to say that you are not alone in being disillusioned with The Remnant. I hear this disillusionment from time to time, expressed by readers for various reasons.
When I say that the videos are excellent, I’m thinking of Michael Matt’s considerable talent for putting together the various enemies of the Faith, the same sworn enemies of the ordinary peoples around the world, those enemies who seek to take away our freedoms and enslave us in the New World Order. He really does that very well in his videos, with images and news clips which have great educative value. Not everyone knows the identities of the chief players, such as Bill Gates, Anthony Fauci et al, and not everyone realises that our horrendous pope is playing a leading role in the whole scandal. On that level, they really are excellent.
I do know what you mean about the bits of snide laughter etc – I agree that can take away from the gravity but nobody’s perfect. Can you believe, I’ve even heard people say that about me, moi! But then, as I always say, they don’t really know me 😀
On the other hand, and to be fair, it is hard NOT to sneer at the sheer nerve of these people, not to laugh at their temerity. So, I think – with all due respect – that those “laughter” moments – which are effectively saying “this is insane” – should not prevent us entering them into the “excellent” category. They really do deserve an A+ 😀
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