Senior NHS Whistleblower: Covid & Vaccine Policies = Genocide… STOP!

Senior NHS Whistleblower: Covid & Vaccine Policies = Genocide… STOP!

Children Are Next

To listen to the interview at UK Column, click on image above.

The Text of interview is published below…

The transcript below is of a call made to Brian Gerrish on 18 April 2021. The voice of the caller has been changed to protect her identity.

The senior NHS Board member warns that the government is now controlling the NHS, and it is the government that is actually dictating what the NHS should do during Covid emergency measures. She states that the result of the government’s enforced Covid and vaccination policies can be described as genocide. Government messaging to her senior NHS colleagues is removing their capacity for rational thought, and they are effectively being mind controlled to implement policies which, in more rational moments, they would challenge as wrong.  Fear prevails, and she and her board colleagues are being expected to toe an unwritten policy line, set predominantly in conference calls with no written record. She warns that if her privately troubled colleagues do not speak out, “your children will be next”.


Brian Gerrish: I’ve been contacted by an NHS professional who would like to speak to me about things happening in the NHS. So, without any ado, let’s go over to our caller today.

Thank you very much for calling me. It’s really been wonderful that you’ve had the confidence to give us a call at the UK Column.  I’m going to ask the key question: why have you called me today?

Whistleblower: Yes, thank you. I was listening to — I think it was your Wednesday [14 April] broadcast, and the nurse testimony that you had on there, and it really resonated with me. My heart really hurt, and understood what she was going through. You know, she obviously had UK-wide knowledge of the NHS, and a lot of knowledge of what’s going on within her job.

So, as you said, I’m an NHS professional, and I actually sit on an NHS Board.

I guess the other reason for reaching out was that she talked a couple of times about “the next layer of management” being the Board. I think she reported in to one of the Board. You know, I just really wanted to share my personal story on what’s happened since last March.

Brian Gerrish: That, of course, is wonderful, because information coming directly from people who are professionals in the system is extremely valuable. I’m going to say to you straight away that I realise that doing this is an enormous pressure, so thank you, and we respect that.

So, you talk about what you feel comfortable to share with the audience.

Whistleblower: OK, thank you. So, I guess when all the Coronavirus started, and when it came into the UK — mainframing kind of March last year — obviously the conversations really were predominantly about measures to stop infection, forecasting, you know, “this is what we’re anticipating will happen”, you know, “how do we manage the services”. Kind of all that was going on, and then as we went through the summer, there started to be a little bit of talk about the vaccine development and potential treatments and things like that.

And then the treatments completely went, and the vaccine discussions ramped up, and in November it really started to be predominantly what we talked about. And, I mean, you can’t call it a vaccine, because it doesn’t meet the definition, so I’m going to refer to it as an injection, but I’m just making sure that everyone’s on the same page with me.

So, it became kind of clear to myself, and a few other colleagues that I know on other NHS Boards, in November that we were going to be asked to completely roll this out — and also that there really were some long-term safety issues, and stuff that we just didn’t know. And so it really took us by surprise, the scope and speed at which they were moving.

And at the time, we had a lot of discussions, as a Board, as to our concerns around this — and remember that when the NHS is in emergency measures, which it is and has been, then the Government is able to tightly control what the NHS does, and is able to dictate a lot more what the NHS does than it would be able to if it wasn’t in emergency measures.

So, our Chief Executive had discussions about our concerns, and I can say other Boards had the same discussions, and in a nutshell, what we were told in December was, “If you refuse to co-operate in rolling this out, then we’ll remove you.” And it wasn’t said explicitly, and it wasn’t put in e-mails, but it was certainly very indicated that that was the case.

Brian Gerrish: So that was essentially a veiled threat. I think you’d call that a veiled threat.

Whistleblower: Yes. And the second challenge we had, very much, and central to a lot of our discussions, is that even if we didn’t — if we said, “Look, we’re not doing this” — then the public that we serve would be very angry, or the majority of the public that we serve: certainly not all of them, but the majority of the public that we serve, would at that time have been very angry and actually probably would have tried to help with our removal, because they wanted this, and how dare we try and hold that back for them!

So at that time, I kind of thought this through, and I thought, “Well, I can either leave, because I don’t agree with it, or I can stay and put my energy into ensuring things like informed consent, ensuring that we were capturing any side effects correctly, that we were giving balanced information to the public so that they could make an informed decision.” And, you know, people were going to take this no matter what I did, but perhaps in being there and trying to focus on these areas, I could make a difference.

So that was my position at that time, and then, as the months have rolled by, the government pressure has mounted and mounted, and I have challenged repetitively, and most of the time it’s brushed aside; sometimes, people will be very flippant back; and sometimes, there will just be silence. But I keep trying to challenge, using the Government’s own data, using some of the policies, even looking at this huge problem of Covid takes over everything, so that all the other health services are not running as they should.

And what I’ve witnessed, really, as well, alongside this is just a massive increase in propaganda, in false statements about it, a complete lack of  informed consent, side effects not being reported by patients and NHS staff, and this normalisation of “If you are in bed for two days, that’s OK”(!) And I don’t ever remember, when we had the flu jab — you know, people going for the flu jab a couple of years ago — if you were in bed for two days after having the flu jab, that wouldn’t have been considered OK! But for the Covid jab, that’s been normalised.

Brian Gerrish: That’s an extremely interesting point.

Whistleblower: Mmm. So, basically, after these discussions — I have been told on more than one occasion that I can leave if I don’t agree, and “The consensus has been there; we just need to get on with it now.” So it’s kind of moved from that concern at the beginning, and what I’ve witnessed over the months is people becoming more comfortable with this rollout, and “We just need to get on with it, and this is what we need to do.”

And I witnessed a lot of to-ing and fro-ing from people around me. Periods of concern and then they’ll get the documents down from the Government, and then it’s like, “Oh, it’s fine, it’s fine.” So almost like an internal battle happening with the colleagues around me, that is causing a lot of stress and illness for them.

Brian Gerrish: Do some of your Board colleagues have concerns about what’s going on?

Whistleblower: They did, and they do at times, but what seems to happen is, it’s like a rollercoaster ride. So there’ll be something I’ll say, or something will happen, or something will be on the news that will spring concern, but then once they’ve got the government line on it, it will smooth that down somewhat. And that’s what I’m challenged with. It’s like a cognitive dissonance where the concern rises and then somebody soothes them and says, “That’s OK, no, we’ve got this, and it’s fine.” And now we’re in this sort of pattern of just waiting for, “Well, what’s the government line on this?”

I think that’s really important, actually, for listeners to understand, because I think that a lot of people think that the NHS is in complete control of this, and actually don’t realise that under emergency measures, they are told what to do.

Brian Gerrish: That’s a very important point. And how do they get told what to do? Presumably, the policy comes in from the Government, and who does that go to? Does it go to the Chief Executives?

Whistleblower:  Yes, and the Director of Public Safety or equivalent.

Brian Gerrish: So those individuals in particular are the ones that, we’ll say, the government communications come straight in to them, and they then have to sell that policy on into the local NHS system itself.

Whistleblower: Yes.

Brian Gerrish: And how does the instruction come in from the Government? Is that done by e-mail and letters, or is this happening with direct phone calls, for example? Well, it would be conference calls now, I suppose.

Whistleblower: Yes, so a mixture, but a lot of the detail is usually on conference calls, and there’s not as much sent in e-mails, in written e-mails on policies.

Brian Gerrish: And just to focus things a little bit: can you just give us a summary of what your concerns are? You’re describing that things are not right, you’re talking about the vaccines, and you’re saying people are spending two days in bed and that would have been a problem for the normal flu vaccine but nobody’s taking any notice of that. Just package what your concerns are at the moment about what you’re seeing going on.

Whistleblower: Yes, there’s so many. I think the key ones are lack of true informed consent, lack of a balanced risk-versus-benefit ratio being given to people. I think people are told that their adverse events are “normal”. I know that the Yellow Card reporting system is not reflective of the amount of adverse events that are actually happening, and I’ll give you an example of that. I know of a patient who reported their extreme adverse-event side effect to a nurse, and that nurse did not report it to the Yellow Card reporting system. So that’s a concern, that we haven’t got an accurate reflection of what is actually happening after these injections.

And I think the long-term safety effects of these injections is still not known, yet we can see that the short-term impact is huge. And we’re now moving into a territory where we are going into healthy, younger, fertile individuals, and — God forbid — children. And that, quite frankly, terrifies me.

Brian Gerrish: Yes, and I think there are other people who feel this as well, because they could say, “Well, OK, we know there’s adverse effects at the moment.” Still, if we were to take the position that the number and the nature of the adverse effects to date is acceptable against the benefits (whatever we think those benefits are), they key bit that the public does not know is what any future adverse reactions will be.

Whistleblower: Yes, that’s exactly right. And I think that is used to say, “Well, look, we haven’t had that many adverse events versus the millions that we’ve vaccinated” — but it’s not a true representation, and so you can’t really draw those parallels.

Brian Gerrish: How do the working staff — you principally talked about the reaction from quite a senior level in the NHS — how is all this affecting the doctors and nurses on the ground, in the wards? The people who are having to deal with adverse reactions, but people who are also having to give the vaccinations: how is it affecting them?

Whistleblower: This is where I agreed with your caller on 14 April. Most people are just following what they’re asked to do, and — even at Board level — don’t know what’s in these injections. I’ve tested that theory and found it to be true. What we’re seeing at the moment is, from my perspective, a very exhausted workforce which is told different things constantly.

I’ll give you an example, too, that I was extremely concerned about recently. People with dry, cracking hands from the amount of hand-washing that they’re having to do; constant face mask wearing, causing huge skin problems; massive headaches; a lot of people off sick — and the pressure that is going into the system is huge.

Brian Gerrish: Effects that you’re describing, of people who are ending up with sore, cracked hands (and I’ve heard about this from many other people in the NHS): I know that the sanitising gels that they’re using can have different effects, but one of the key ones is they tend to dry people’s skin out, and if you’re using them all the time, you end up with cracked skin. Of course, if you’ve got cracked skin, that’s going to make you very vulnerable as an additional path to infection, with the people you’re dealing with as a healthcare professional.

What about who would deal with this? Health and Safety Executive, or who’s responsible in the NHS for responding to those sorts of concerns about the wearing of masks and what’s happening to people’s hands as a result of the sanitisation?

Whistleblower: Well, the department that will oversee that on the wards is Infection Control. And that will then go up into the Medical Board.

Brian Gerrish: And are they producing any reports? Are they doing their job and it’s then being squashed, or are they simply not doing their job?

Whistleblower: I couldn’t say precisely, but from what I’ve understood, a lot of people are complaining about it but it’s not being logged officially. So I look at my cracked hands, but it’s not being logged officially. And I think there is fear about logging these things, and there is a mind control, almost, about “Well, you’ve got to do it, because otherwise you could be responsible for this spread of this infection, or this person dying.” I feel that the pressure is huge.

Brian Gerrish: I don’t want to put any words in your mouth, because you are here to tell your experience, so I’ll phrase things very carefully. At the beginning, when the pandemic was declared, how did that affect people?

Whistleblower: I think there was a level of fear, but actually, I feel like the fear has increased, because the propaganda and the news outlets and the pressure from the Government has increased. It’s almost like you’re seeing the fear and pressure increase at the same time. So, if you said to me, “How did people react in April last year versus how are people now?”, they’re much worse now in terms of their overall health, their mental wellbeing, and their fear levels.

Brian Gerrish: That is a very sad and serious state of affairs. What comes into my mind immediately is the SPI-B 22 March 2020 paper that was put into the SAGE board meeting, whatever they call it, where it specifically said that the idea was that the fear factor was going to be ramped up in the population as a whole. It said, “People are not fearful enough; we need to make them more fearful in order to effectively get the policy into place.”

Now, most people that we’ve circulated and broadcast that document to, of course, read it as a member of the public, and they look at it that that was the government message as to how to deal with the public — but I think it’s not unreasonable to say that these psychological policies were also directly injected into the NHS, and indeed other parts of the Government and civil service. But if we just focus on the NHS, this applied psychology was brought directly into the NHS, and we have been given (and we’ve found for ourselves) quite a few documents within various NHS Trusts in England describing how they’re going to use applied behavioural psychology to progress the Covid and vaccination care programme within the hospitals.

So this deliberate applied psychology policy was not just for the general public; it’s come in through the NHS as well, it seems to me.

Whistleblower: Yes, and I think those types of things aren’t completely obvious, but I can certainly give you examples where I’ve had very rational conversations with my peers and then we can sit down a couple of days later and that rational conversation has gone. And I’m having an irrational one that doesn’t make sense; it’s based on fear or emotions or something that’s changed — from what they have been told in other meetings, or what’s gone on in briefings.

So I can’t comment on that directly that it’s so visible, but it certainly seems that there’s evidence that — I just feel like most people in the NHS seem very irrational in their choices and what they’re choosing to continue to do. And that’s not an excuse for them, by any manner of means, but, you know, even at a very senior level in the NHS, people are not thinking rationally, and they definitely are having an element of psychology that’s been driven behind this.

Brian Gerrish: If we take the case of people in the NHS who’ve already had the vaccine, when they had their vaccine, were they actually aware of the true detail of the adverse effects via the Yellow Card system? Do people inside the NHS know more about the vaccines, when they’re vaccinated, than, say, an ordinary member of the public would?

Whistleblower: This was the other thing that resonated with your Wednesday caller. No, they don’t. I have asked multiple people, from people actually injecting to people that sit on the Board, and they don’t know what’s in the vaccines, and they don’t really understand the risks. I’d also say that most people that I speak to in a senior management position in the NHS have said, “I was fifty-fifty about whether to take it or not.”

So, at some level, there is a subconscious belief that it might not be safe, in my opinion, because there’s a lot of fifty-fifty, but as time has worn on, they’ve taken it. So a lot of people have taken it later, rather than in the first wave, when it was being offered to healthcare professionals. And, of course, now they sit in that bucket of people that would potentially not want to know about adverse events for themselves, because they’ve taken that injection.

Brian Gerrish: One would have thought that inside the NHS system, particularly as you go up the management chain, people would absolutely know about the Yellow Card adverse reaction records. It’s on the Government website; the NHS does make an oblique reference through to the Yellow Card system through their own part of the public NHS website, but even when you get to the MHRA part, you’ve really got to look for the datasheets themselves. I still find it incredible, the idea that people in in the NHS have not actually seen those sheets themselves!

Whistleblower: Yes, exactly, and when I have brought up and presented on these things, and tried to get some movement, the thing that comes back a lot is, “Well, yes, you know, there’s only a few, there’s this, there’s that, but actually, we’re vaccinating millions of people.” Now, even if you take into account that the reporting isn’t accurate, when we think about any other drug in history that has gone through the NHS, it would not be acceptable for that many people to die, full stop. And yet, in this circumstance, for some reason, it is acceptable.

Brian Gerrish: Well, it’s put across as acceptable.

Whistleblower: Absolutely. I mean, it’s not, but yes.

Brian Gerrish: The other caller raised the issue that patients were not being fully informed, and the Patient Information Leaflets were not being given, so people didn’t really get anything when they got their vaccination. Possibly, they got something after they were vaccinated, but they weren’t being given information before which would enable them to make that all-important informed choice. Have you also been seeing, or are you aware of the fact, that the public are being vaccinated without being given the full information? I think you did mention that earlier in this conversation, so apologies if I’m getting you to repeat that, but I think it’s an important thing.

Whistleblower: Yes, that was one of the things that I felt that if I stayed, I could maybe have an influence on: ensuring that that is happening. And I think that, to a certain extent, my calls have been heard on that, but it’s still woefully inadequate. People are often given the leaflet twenty minutes, fifteen minutes, before they have the injection. They’re already in the vaccination centre. It’s a very slick operation. They’re told it’ll just be OK. You know, there’s no time for deep reflection or questions.

Brian Gerrish: Are you able to say anything about pregnant women? Pregnancy has been one of the hot topics, and of course pregnant women are particularly vulnerable, the child is vulnerable. Have you got anything you can tell us about that, or are pregnant women going through the system and being vaccinated along with everybody else?

Whistleblower: I don’t have any knowledge of that, no.

Brian Gerrish: Well, you’ve been very brave in speaking out, and it’s wonderful, because of course every time somebody speaks out, somebody’s listening, and says, “Oh, my goodness, I know about this,” and so they are prepared to also speak out. So, I very much hope that what you’ve done with us today will trigger that response in somebody else.

If you had a magic wand, what would you like to see happen at the moment to help resolve what’s going on?

Whistleblower: If I had a magic wand, it would just stop. It would stop now, before we hurt anybody else. That would be amazing. That would be the best day ever, because every day I wake up, I think about how I can find that golden nugget to try and wake up the people around me to the damage we are causing. We are causing — I mean, we heard the word ‘genocide’ from the lady on Wednesday. I don’t disagree with that statement. And it’s terrifying, and it saddens me, and the reason I’m staying where I am for now is to try and make a difference in whatever way I can, but — like she said, and I would absolutely agree with this — I want to see that judgment day. I will give evidence. [emphasis added]

And also, I will take whatever comes to me for still staying and being part of that, but I will continue where I can to try and make any small gains that I can for the public that we’re serving, because to give up and walk away isn’t going to get the right outcome either. And so, if I can make little differences until I can stand it no more, then that’s what I will do.

Brian Gerrish: Thank you for sharing that with us. And — I’m going to put it in professional terms — if we could do the right things and get the whole process to stop at the moment, am I right in saying that would be the opportunity that we could — as a nation, as the NHS — have a pause, draw breath, and then actually look at what has been happening, analyse it properly, and really decide whether the policies that have been enacted were mistaken or whether they have been deliberately put into being; are they malicious? That we can have a full analysis of what’s happened.

Whistleblower: Yes, that’s right, that’s right. And I think the danger, as well, here is that for a segment of the population, they will bundle this in with, you know, “All vaccines are bad”, or “All this is bad” or “All that is bad”. And there are amazing things happening in the NHS each and every day that does save lives. People are committed and caring. And so, you could lose all of that with what’s going on, and we need that stop and to really, really re-evaluate.

And, you know, the other thing is, we need to find each other. The people that are desperately trying to make a difference and desperately trying to scream at the top of our voices, “Please, please stop!” We need to find each other, and it’s very difficult, because we’re quite spread out, we’re demonised, we’re told to shut up, in every job, and that makes the process a lot more challenging.

Brian Gerrish: Well, I can only thank you, but I really mean it, because it is difficult to speak out. You have given a really comprehensive run through what you’ve seen happening, and your summing-up at the end there, I think, is just wonderful, because, yes, we need to bring people together.

What advice would you give to somebody who is thinking about having the vaccination — that’s my first question — and the second question is, what advice would you have for somebody who’s already had the vaccination?

Whistleblower: I think the advice for the first question is, “Do your own research.” I think, as a nation, we’re over-reliant on our healthcare professionals. And that’s not a get-out clause, but, you know, you’re asking me how we empower somebody to really take control — because it’s their body, right, it’s their body — and absolutely, the NHS is there to support them, but do your own research, and do it wide. If you don’t know how to look at the clinical studies, find somebody that does, and ask for support.

Challenge the people that ring you up and offer you a vaccine. Challenge them, and ask them questions. We need to keep at critical thinking for ourselves. That would be the biggest thing. I’m not going to tell you what to do. People ask me, and I’m not going to tell them. I am going to say, “Look, this has no long-term safety data, and there may be some challenges with it. You’ve got to weigh up the risk-benefit ratio. Go and do your own research as well!” I think that’s a key point.

If people aren’t able to do that, then I often just give them a few areas they could go and look at, and I always try to be balanced in that, because I think that’s important. You know, people need to make their own minds up with this.

Brian Gerrish: So the second group is obviously people who’ve had vaccines. We know that there are a lot of people, a lot of people: they’ve had vaccines, if they’ve had an adverse reaction, they are really on the uptake of looking for the information and trying to find out why, so they’re very motivated people. But people who’ve had the vaccine maybe didn’t have any adverse effects at all. Should they go ahead and take a second vaccine?

Whistleblower: Again, I can’t tell them what to do, but what I would say is, I’m seeing more and more traffic that is questioning the safety after they’ve had the first dose, because of the things that are in the news, and I have experience of people who have had adverse events but haven’t spoken up. And what I would say, on both counts, is: if you have an adverse event, please report it, please speak up. Don’t take no for an answer. For you, and for others behind you. You know, you have the right, and you should stand up and say, “This isn’t good enough, and I need to report it, and you need to ensure that people are being held to account for this as well.”

I think, for the second piece of that, so if people haven’t got any effects and they’re worried, then I would advise them to talk to somebody. Don’t sit in silence. Talk to somebody, talk it through, do your research. That’s certainly what I would do, and I would encourage anybody else to do that as well.

Brian Gerrish: Well, that’s extremely helpful, because of course in bringing these issues to light, we don’t want to add to this overall stress and anxiety that people are suffering, and I can imagine that if you’ve had a vaccine and then you are hearing about adverse effects, that could really be weighing on your mind.

Whistleblower: Yes, of course.

Brian Gerrish: So I fully understand: what you’re saying there is, do your research so that you are happy in your own mind.

Whistleblower: Yes.

Brian Gerrish: Is there anything else you’d like to add? What you’ve given has been extremely interesting and informative.

Whistleblower: No, I think the only thing I’d like to add is: let’s get talking to each other and supporting each other more. You know, let’s move out of the fear place, and try and — I think a lot of people that have had the vaccines are sitting at home, they’re scared and they’re worried, they don’t know what to do, and they’re looking at the main news or they’re looking at their NHS leaflet. And actually talking to people and getting support and looking at a wide variety of information is just so important for people, and it’ll make them feel like they have more control about what happens to them, their body and their lives.

Brian Gerrish: And one thing that’s come into my mind while you were talking there, so just allow me one very last one: what advice, or what would you say to your NHS colleagues, to encourage them to think about what’s going on?

Whistleblower: Honestly, what comes to mind is, “Your children are next.” And that is terrifying, and it makes me well up when I think about it. So if you won’t speak up because you’ve had the vaccine, or you won’t speak up because you’re scared (I understand that), or you won’t speak up because you don’t want to lose your job (and I totally understand that), just know that this doesn’t stop until we all stand up and say, “Stop.” And we’re getting younger and younger here now, and our time’s running out.

Brian Gerrish: Thank you very much for joining me, and it’s been extremely helpful hearing the information that you’ve got to put across. I know it’s taken a lot of courage, so thank you very much.

Whistleblower: Thank you.


One of the few things left to say following the above interview is this:  surely it’s long past time for the Bishops to stand up and be counted, like the brave NHS whistleblowers who have come forward to date,  and call out this dangerous Coronavirus lockdown and vaccination experiment for what it is – potentially genocide. The following words from the above interview are damning of those who are hiding in plain sight – both inside and outside of the National Health Service and, above all, they are a reminder that there will be a day of reckoning – even in this life: the reason I’m staying where I am for now is to try and make a difference in whatever way I can, but…  I want to see that judgment day. I will give evidence. ” 

Not to speak out at this time is to condone what the Governments of the UK are doing as they play with our health, and remove our personal and religious freedoms.  It is to be complicit in the enormous human suffering to come.  Yet not an episcopal whistleblower in sight…

Comments (49)

  • Pauline Gallagher

    Pat, there is evidence to suggest general NHS treatment will be withheld from anyone not vaccinated! I still will not take it. Too many prestigious doctors are warning against it; I don’t trust the motives or practices of the vaccine companies; inadequate trial data and the use of fetal cell lines. And that’s just for starters!

    May 6, 2021 at 12:40 pm
    • editor


      Snap! I won’t take this vaccine or – more accurately, as the NHS whistleblower defines it -the injection, no matter what.

      What those people don’t realise who have an inkling that something is seriously wrong right now but belong either to the “don’t want to know” or “just put up with it it, it’ll soon be over” camps, is that, by their very compliance, they are making things worse. Here’s a telling quote from a well known Russian dissident who writes about his experience in the horrendous Russian Gulag (forced labour camps)…

      “And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?… The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin’s thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If…if…We didn’t love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation…. We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.” ― Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn , The Gulag Archipelago 1918–1956

      And that is my own considered conclusion: if we go along with this scam on any level, then we deserve what is – indisputably – coming to us. Communism has already arrived and it will take root unless we refuse to accept it.

      May 6, 2021 at 2:28 pm
      • paulinemarygallagher

        Margaret Mary’s right. When fear takes over, a minority can control the rest. But no one wins in that atmosphere. Better start learning from survivors of totalitarianism how to keep our minds free!

        May 6, 2021 at 10:08 pm
      • RCAVictor


        Makes you wonder what role fear played in the Vatican II revolution, where a distinct minority was able to produce obedience from a majority…

        May 7, 2021 at 2:25 am
      • paulinemarygallagher

        Happening again, Victor……
        I love JPII and not opposed to recent popes but what you say is shaping the immediate future of the Church. We can always find faithful pastors though!

        May 7, 2021 at 1:58 pm
      • Laura

        Pauline Gallagher,

        There will always be individual faithful priests and laity but that doesn’t change the seriousness of the fact that we have people in high places who have lost the faith. Remember, there was a cardinal quoting the Third Secret (Fatima) who said that it revealed that “the crisis in the Church begins at the top.” Nobody with a working brain can deny that, seeing that we have a pope who is encouraging us to be vaccinated and to support the evil United Nations and who is calling for one-world government!

        May 7, 2021 at 3:15 pm
      • paulinemarygallagher

        Yes, When I said recent popes, I wasn’t thinking of Frances, Laura. God help us all.

        May 8, 2021 at 6:19 pm
      • Michaela


        If you’re not opposed to recent popes (especially the current one, who is a Communist) then you obviously can’t know and love the faith. I don’t mean to cause offence but it is a simple fact. We cannot serve two masters, as Christ said, and if anyone, including popes, are teaching anything that contradicts the faith, we must call them out. That is the lesson from Scripture, where St Paul rebuked St Peter when he was in the wrong. That’s a key teaching. As I’ve read in CT many times, only cult leaders cannot be criticised, not Catholic ones, even popes.

        May 8, 2021 at 2:35 pm
      • Athanasius


        I don’t think we can forget that JPII was solely responsible for the Assisi inter-religious gatherings, during which a group of pagans sacrificed chickens on a Catholic altar and Buddhists worshipped their idol atop a tabernacle. Sorry but none of the Popes since Pius XII have been fully orthodox in the faith.

        May 8, 2021 at 11:38 pm
      • Laura


        That’s it in a nutshell – we don’t love freedom enough to fight for it. We want the government to “keep us safe”. So childish.

        May 7, 2021 at 3:12 pm
    • Margaret Mary

      Pauline Gallagher,

      I agree totally and one of the doctors who has been warning us against the whole Covid hype is Dr Mike Yeadon. I can’t find anything on the vaccine from him on YouTube any more – I think he’ll have been cancelled. I did find this short video which is dated 9 November, 2020 which explains why he’s been cancelled!

      May 6, 2021 at 9:56 pm
      • Laura

        Margaret Mary,

        In the Tucker Carlson video which Theresa Rose posted below, there is a propaganda video mocking people who won’t take the vaccine and one of the things they say is “is he a doctor” (who tells you not to take the vaccine – said as if no doctor would say that). Yet they won’t listen to doctors like Dr Yeadon. It really is criminal what is going on.

        May 7, 2021 at 3:11 pm
    • Faith of Our Fathers

      Pauline your spot on their, although in my GP Practice it doesn’t matter all that much as a Catholic could probably get an Audience with the Acting Pope, quicker than they could get an Appointment with my Medical Practice. Forgive me if I seem Ignorant but I actually thought that it was us ,as in you and I who payed our Doctors Salary through years of paying into the N.H.S . I personally have tried again to get in touch with one of my Doctors but with no Joy. Considering they get only get paid roughly £80.000 a Year I can understand why they want to go and work in the Private Sector in The Afternoons to Top up their miserable Salaries. Still one has to be thankful for small mercies I.E. the internet to Examine oneself. I personally know without a Doubt that IF and it’s a very big IF i get to talk to a Doctor their is noway I will be seen unless I have taken Billy Gates Poison, and that am certainly not prepared to do, after all their already planning for a Booster in the Autumn. This Woman was very Brave in what She said as obviously She needs Her Job. The question about Pregnant Women being at risk from this Injection was quickly answered as No. In saying that their has been lots of talk in various places of this Injection making Young Men and Young Women infertile. In otherwords the perfect scenario. For the Vaccine Pushers like Gates and Co. As for Children being injected with this Poison thats an Evil surely too far. God Help Our Children from these Beasts.

      May 7, 2021 at 6:38 pm
  • Lily

    I agree – there is no point anyway in being vaccinated / injected as it’s not going to get us our freedom back. This is a report from Lockdown Sceptics, proving the point.

    May 6, 2021 at 2:47 pm
  • RCAVictor

    Just for my own understanding, what is the historic relationship between the “government” and the NHS? Wasn’t the government in control of the NHS before the scam-demic arrived? Indirectly or some other way?

    (Here in the formerly free USA, an agency whose name includes “National” would be considered part of the government.”)

    May 6, 2021 at 3:50 pm
    • editor

      RCA Victor,

      Yes, The NHS is tax-payer funded so that makes it “Government-run”.

      Only now is the realisation dawning of what that actually means. You only get the treatment permitted by the Government and right now, that’s “the virus”. If you don’t have that, bad luck… er… if you get my drift.

      But note: even private medicine in the UK is hugely dependent on the NHS / Government to train doctors and nurses etc. I know of one person within my own circle of friends who was due a major cancer treatment at the start of the first lockdown and who, although he was happily able to use his private insurance, still couldn’t have his treatment because some resources were “care of” the NHS. In other words, often the same medical and surgical staff who are trained by and working for the NHS, are also operating (literally) in private practice.

      O what a tangled web we weave, etc.

      May 6, 2021 at 5:44 pm
  • Margaret Mary

    That is a really important interview. I listened to some of it and read the rest. It is SO important. I agree with her that they’ll come for the children next, in fact they are already talking about injecting youngsters.

    This report about the return to sport in the USA shows how ridiculous the whole thing is. They are setting aside areas for the vaccinated and separately for the unvaccinated and they are providing vaccines Everybody will still have to wear a mask though, LOL! What’s the point?

    May 6, 2021 at 9:48 pm
  • Athanasius

    This vaccination programme is already in breach of international law (human rights), not to mention the Nuremberg protocols drawn up after WWII as a safguard against any future Dr. Mengele’s.

    That the global population is being coerced into this massive human experiment without full knowledge of the future pros and cons, which even the so-called experts have admitted to not knowing, is absolute evil beyond words. They are using psychology and depravation to enforce this evil experiment on the world by means of relentless scaremongering via the media and the silencing of opposition voices, and by threatening to prevent foreign travel, etc, unless vaccinated. I cannot believe that the people of this world have become so stupid, apparently having lost the reason that God gave them to work out what’s happening here.

    This whistleblower seems to echoing the fear of Dr. Mike Yeadon that what has actually been set in motion is a mass cull of humanity, global depopulation of up to 90%. Dr. Yeadon is a perfectly rational man and an expert in his field, yet this is the only conclusion he can reach with the madness presently happeneing before his eyes.

    What we need is for whistleblowers to come out into the light and tell their stories. I know it’s a big ask as they could lose their jobs and reputations, but if, as this lady suspects, and as Dr. Yeadon fears, we’re looking at global genocide here, then I don’t see that they have a moral choice. I can understand the reasoning behind remaining anonymous within the system in order to help educate people in a small way, but it’s not enough and it reminds me of those in the Church after Vatican II who also reasoned that they would stay in their parish and try to work the good from within. It’s hopeless and pointless! There’s only one way to put an end to this international conspiracy against humanity and that’s for people to rise up and be heard and seen in their millions. If they don’t wake up now then I would have to share the fear of Dr. Yeadon that in 6-12 months time there are going to be tens of millions of deaths, which the evil ones will blame on a new strain of the virus.

    Of course for those of us who believe in God and in Our Lady’s promises, there’s always that wisdom to avoid their untested and dangerous vaccines while knowing for sure that ultimately these wicked people will fail. I would like to live to see them brought to justice at the Hague for crimes against humanity. Whether that happens or not is unimportant for they will certainly not escape the justice of God and will almost assuredly spend their eternity buried in Hell.

    May 6, 2021 at 11:12 pm
    • Margaret Mary


      “Dr. Yeadon is a perfectly rational man and an expert in his field.”

      I agree totally – and that is what makes his statements so powerful. I know that I feel helpless but it must be worse for him, having all that knowledge and experience at his fingertips and being refused time on the airwaves to speak. He is so right to call this a conspiracy. It’s ironic that the people who are conspiring against us manage to shut critics down by calling us all “conspiracy theorists.”

      May 6, 2021 at 11:49 pm
      • Athanasius

        Margaret Mary

        It’s their favourite weapon – accusing others of what they are actually guilty of. Since they have control of the media it means they are believed while the real truth speakers are silenced. Typical Communist tactic.

        May 7, 2021 at 2:24 am
    • RCAVictor


      “Mass cull of humanity” puts me in mind of the Georgia Guidestones, which are tablets erected in 1980 and paid for by a mysterious individual using a pseudonym, that contain 10 new commandments. The first of them is

      “Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature.”

      Here is a description of this:

      Here is more about the mysterious “Richard C. Christian”:

      May 7, 2021 at 2:35 am
      • editor

        RCA Victor,

        I suggest you (or one of our other sometime bloggers who live in the USA) contact the supposedly “conservative” media outlets, such as Newsmax TV, to ask why they are so uncritical of the vaccines / injections. They seem to have absolutely no suspicion about the truth behind “the virus”. It just astounds me that they are so truly clueless. And I include President Trump in that. He takes the “credit” for the rushed vaccine, apparently unaware of its real purpose.

        A short time later…

        Seems I spoke too soon. Tucker Carlson is on the case (although note, he still isn’t questioning the number of deaths…)

        May 7, 2021 at 11:37 am
      • RCAVictor


        I think Newsmax mostly tends to skim the political surface, though a couple of them we’ve talked about here are almost as good as Tucker.

        My little hole-in-the-wall barbershop now has Newsmax TV, but when I was there the other day all they were talking about (along with most of the alt-news websites) was that the Facebook oversight board had banned President Trump for another 6 months. And….? Who cares? What did you expect Censorbook to do?

        But I was also shocked to discover that my barber, a red-blooded conservative, had taken the Moderna vaccine, without side effects. I decided not to launch into my anti-vax tirade (after all, he had scissors in his hand…), but I hope he doesn’t regret it.

        May 7, 2021 at 3:01 pm
      • Athanasius


        I have never heard of these “Guidestones” prior to your posting the link – it’s almost like they were arrogantly announcing in 1981 what we are now all living under, i.e. a Communist/Masonic totalitarianism. The author of the Guidestones is obviously a Luciferian.

        What I find really troubling is that the first “new Commandment” calls for a reduction in Global population of 92%. This number ties in with Dr. Yeadon’s fear that this vaccine programme could potentially reduce the world’s population by 90%. Autumn/Winter of this year is going to be a very telling time, for if this is indeed the plan then we can expect tens or hundreds of millions of deaths in very quick time leading ultimately to billions. What better way to drastically reduce the planet’s population very quickly than by a vaccine that all have been terrorised and coerced into taking for a non-existent plague. If I had juts been vaccinated for COVID I’d be extremely worrried and would arrange my estate (all £6 of it!) just in case the worst should happen.

        May 7, 2021 at 12:17 pm
    • mary

      The local election results today here in England, along with the number who have voluntarily been jabbed, confirms that the vast majority of people are totally ignorant. Johnson, now encouraged and cocksure, will turn the screw tighter and tighter now in the knowledge that the voters generally are lovin’ it.

      Re the catastrophic results of the vaccine ; these may well appear in as soon as a years time (as one Dr Bossche indicated; but I don’t know what to make of him). (However I do trust Dr Yeadon, definitely ). But I surmise that it might unfurl in a more gradual way as endless jabs are forced on people; that genocide might occur through different jabs interacting ; this would make them more money and maybe help them cover their tracks better. But time will show.

      Re children; the way they are being abused, locked up, muzzled, distanced from their friends, sexualised at a tender age, taught moral relativity. We’re raising generations of sociopaths who will be capable of any abomination and cruelty. Then experimented on with vaccines.
      God help us.

      May 8, 2021 at 11:15 am
      • editor


        Got it in one!

        When I saw Keir Starmer bleating that he will lead the Labour Party better and work out what has gone wrong for them to do so badly in the election, after asking myself if he is really that thick, I wondered how differently things would have been in the election if there had been a truly informed opposition to the Government’s pandemic response.

        Truth has its own power. People – hearing a respected leading politician challenging the “experts” through citing the many much better qualified, real experts, would have been voting in droves for that Party. Instead, they had no real choice and voted in “stay safe” mode – better the devil you know…

        May 8, 2021 at 11:29 am
      • mary

        Editor. Even with no viable opposition party, voters have always made the mistake of voting for what they perceived as the less bad option. “Hold on to Nurse for fear of worse”. Or of not bothering voting at all.
        If they weren’t lucky enough to have a good Independent, it would have been far better to have voted “none of the above”and endorse “End Tyranny” or words to that effect. If enough people had done that, it would have started the breakup of the mainstream stranglehold. did suggest that.
        Having said that however,I begin to wonder now whether in future the solution will lie in elections anymore. I think prayer, spreading the word and civil disobedience are our only options now.

        But judging from most people I talked to in my area, they haven’t even reached the stage of having a glimmering of understanding.

        Dr Yeadon made a good point somewhere that even if ultimately his fears didn’t materialise , (Extremely unlikely I think), it was still our duty to warn warn warn ; by reason of the capability the covid policies are creating for these evils. I found this useful when talking to people who called me a conspiracy theorist.

        May 8, 2021 at 12:49 pm
      • Athanasius


        I’m not so sure about that. Kier Starmer took a hammering in this election and I think that could be down to his zeal for more lockdowns. It’s a sad reality, though, that people in the UK have only a choice of equally-Communist political parties to vote for these days. They appear to be different but they sing off the same demonic hymn sheet.

        May 8, 2021 at 1:37 pm
  • crofterlady

    Margaret Mary / Pauline Gallagher, this is still on Lifesite News:

    May 6, 2021 at 11:31 pm
    • Margaret Mary


      I was chilled to the bone reading that report. No wonder they won’t let Dr Yeadon speak on the msm. I copied this paragraph because it answers the “why” question which people ask when I tell them there is something sinister going on and that we shouldn’t trust the government and experts. This is short, clear and to the point:

      “Why are they doing this? Since no benign reason is apparent, the use of vaccine passports along with a “banking reset” could issue in a totalitarianism unlike the world has ever seen. Recalling the evil of Stalin, Mao, and Hitler, “mass depopulation” remains a logical outcome.”

      I’ve had a feeling of helplessness about this for a long time now and reading that Lifesitenews report reinforces that but that’s a good thing because I don’t want to get used to this situation and go along with it. I want to at least be able to use my voice to call it out whenever I get the chance. That and refusing the vaccine no matter what, is about all any of us can do, IMHO.

      May 6, 2021 at 11:42 pm
      • Theresa Rose

        Margaret Mary,

        I agree, for I too was chilled to the bone by that report. Censorship of Yeadon and others are rife.

        Global totalitarianism is a terrifying thought. And yes, Margaret Mary like you I too have that sense of helplessness. We can refuse the vaccine despite any pressure by others to receive.

        This is from Brighteon:

        Utter madness it is – And how soon will the Consecration of Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary happen?

        May 7, 2021 at 8:46 am
    • Laura


      Thanks for that. I’ve been watching Sky News today and they are already setting us up for the “India variant” which is said to be even worse than the Kent variant.

      They are not going to give us back our freedom – that’s obvious. We either take it back or we live in servitude.

      May 7, 2021 at 3:08 pm
  • Theresa Rose

    Tucker Carlson calls out Facebook for banning LifeSite News because it reported government numbers from the Vaers database.

    May 7, 2021 at 10:08 am
    • Laura

      Theresa Rose,

      That’s a fantastic video from Tucker Carlson about the vaccine. Thanks for posting it. I especially liked the way he showed us how the propaganda is working. Nobody is allowed to ask a single question about this vaccine – that’s suspicious enough for me to say “NO WAY!” I won’t be taking it, no matter what.

      May 7, 2021 at 3:07 pm
    • Lily

      Theresa Rose,

      I think that’s a vey revealing commentary from Carlson – he’s about the only person in the US mainstream media who is challenging the narrative on the vaccine.

      I just wish he would also challenge the narrative on the “cases” and “deaths”.

      May 7, 2021 at 3:26 pm
  • Laura

    Thank goodness for that whistleblower and may many others follow in her footsteps.

    May 7, 2021 at 2:59 pm
  • editor

    I have just received the latest Keep Britain Free email-posting in my inbox. Makes very interesting reading…

    Dear Supporter,

    This week, we have seen major progress in the fight against masks in schools.

    Key to this, is an update on one of the legal cases we recently outlined, involving a girl of just 12 years of age, who decided to take legal action against her school over having to wear a mask.

    Despite being exempt, the girl was subject to extreme pressure from both staff and peers to wear a mask. Her evidence stated that “teachers take it in turns, some of them seeming to enjoy it, wondering corridors and checking through the windows in classes to make sure everyone’s wearing masks. Three bad-behaviour points and you get excluded. It’s not done quietly but in front of everyone.”

    This statement is simply appalling. Schools should provide their pupils with a safe and happy learning environment, free from pressure and judgement. Yet this girl, on account of being exempt from wearing a mask, was subjected to unnecessary tension and anxiety for months.

    So in a brave move, she decided to take the Tapton Academy School Trust to Court, arguing that mask wearing risks causing children serious harm.

    The outcome, was that at this stage, the Court was not required to decide exactly what was happening in the school, but it became important that the school assured the Court that the girl would not be required to wear a mask. In giving this assurance, the school relied on its policy – derived from the government guidance – that it would not require any child to wear a mask, even if they do not have a medical exemption.

    The Court also noted neither the Government nor the school has assessed the risk of physical or psychological harms from wearing masks throughout almost all the school day and the Court acknowledged the detailed evidence of those harms by Chartered Health and Safety Practitioner, Ms Simone Plaut and Clinical Psychologist, Dr Zenobia Storah.

    These reports are available to read here:

    Today, the significance of this case has become even more evident, as according to senior Whitehall sources, Boris Johnson will defy trade union pressure and announce on Monday that secondary school children will no longer be recommended to wear face masks from May 17th.

    At KBF, we have long been against the enforced wearing of masks. It’s incredibly clear there are both physiological and psychological effects to wearing a muzzle for hours on end. Now, we can only hope Whitehall has enough backbone to stand up to the hypocritical teachers and union leaders who are entirely happy to go to their mate’s house and mix inside without masks…but they’re against going inside a classroom without a mask!

    This kind of case is exactly what KBF stands for – to fight for our rightful freedoms and to rise up against the draconian rules Britons are increasingly facing. We will keep you updated on this case and any others we become involved in, and together, we will Keep Britain Free.

    The KBF Team

    May 7, 2021 at 3:39 pm
    • RCAVictor


      That is indeed good news, but I have to wonder whether this is like trying to put out a forest fire with a squirt gun. Is the real problem masks, or is that masking (pun intended) the real problem, which is genocide and crimes against humanity via deadly vaccines?

      In other words, I hope people don’t get distracted by a false sense of freedom about going mask-less.

      May 7, 2021 at 4:00 pm
      • Nicky

        RCA Victor,

        I see your point but mask wearing is deadly, no question about it and especially for young people so this is very good news indeed. The Keep Britain Free movement is just taking on cases as they come, so they’re not fixated on masks.

        This is a troubling report, of a fully vaxxed doctor who has died – he’s from your neck of the woods, as a matter of fact.

        May 7, 2021 at 9:31 pm
      • editor

        RCA Victor and Nicky,

        I saw this clip on Newsmax TV a little while ago – showing the “virtue-signalling” going on when this man is told to pull up his mask…

        May 7, 2021 at 11:37 pm
      • mary

        RCA Victor,

        I read somewhere the maxim, “small compromises lead to hell”
        People are being refused hospital treatment or jobs for not wearing a muzzle. This is the thin end of the wedge; next it will be for not having the jab, And the next jab. And the next, ad- infinitum. And for not having a vaxpass.
        I think resistance needs to start with the masks.
        If we can’t stand our ground over masks we wont be able to stand greound over what’s coming next….

        Re masks on children, I really think this and the other cruelties and abuses of children will produce in future generations of sociopaths

        May 8, 2021 at 12:09 pm
      • RCAVictor


        I agree that it’s good to resist masks, but my point was that I hope people don’t start thinking they have won the war against the Luciferian Great Reset, when they’ve only won a skirmish.

        May 8, 2021 at 3:09 pm
  • Theresa Rose

    Since this thread discusses covid-vaccine polices and genocide, I have come across this article about the origins of covid-19. I must warn everyone that it will be a long read – about 45 minutes in all. I think it might well fit in with what has been discussed already.

    May 8, 2021 at 10:39 am
  • editor

    I am torn between whether to post this news here or on the Vatican II (Archbishop Vigano) thread. OR whether to post a separate thread on the shocking Vatican Conference itself. I’ll settle for here since this is Chelsea Clinton being given a platform by the Vatican to push her vaccine coercion agenda…

    Note this paragraph:

    is the fifth conference of its kind organized by the Pontifical Council for Culture and the Cura Foundation, which describes itself as a “nonsectarian, nonpartisan” group “with a mission to improve human health globally.”

    In other words, the Vatican is now a platform for any and every religious and political opinion in the name of improving health. Somebody needs to tell them that contraceptives and abortions do NOT improve health, either for women or babies.

    May 8, 2021 at 11:37 am
    • Warydoom


      Here’s a interesting development with Josef Seifert now agreeing with Robert de Mattei that it’s legitimate to use the Jab (aka vaccines) if needed.

      Take note that Seifert was a good friend of JPII’s.

      May 11, 2021 at 5:57 am
      • editor


        I will finish reading that link later – I stopped here…

        “[God] used the horrible sin of the murder of the God-Man to redeem us.”

        That manifestly lazy “theology” undermines anything of use that Seifert may have to say.

        Our Lord was not “murdered.” Nobody who is subjected to legitimate state capital punishment is “murdered”. That innocent people are put to death through errors or injustice, doesn’t make state-permitted capital punishment “murder”. That is to trivialise the suffering and death of Our Lord. It is disgraceful for any Catholic to do so.

        The fact that Seifert has to resort to this false claim undermines, as I say, anything of use that he may have to offer on the subject.

        I’ll finish reading the article later but so far – unimpressed.

        May 11, 2021 at 10:26 am
      • editor


        Just to reinforce my response to Seifert’s claim that Our Lord was “murdered”…

        This contemporary tendency to look for modern ways of explaining traditional teachings, facts about salvation history, the Incarnation, drives me – not to put too fine a point on it – nuts…

        That Christ was “murdered” is in the same category as “Our Lady was an unmarried mother”.

        Thus, (if that were true) God can be accused of abandoning His own Moral Law when it suits Him… that it’s OK to break the Moral Law if there is a good enough reason.

        Thus, murder can be permitted to effect the salvation of souls, and immorality/promiscuity can be excused to effect the Incarnation. If God can do that, then these things can’t be that bad.

        It should be clear enough, therefore, why God would (and did) NOT do any such thing

        The death of Christ was effected through legal means – albeit (humanly speaking) unjustly.

        The Incarnation of Christ was achieved by supernatural means, albeit that Our Lady and Saint Joseph were technically married.

        Just wanted to throw that into the mix to reinforce my earlier comment on the subject.

        May 11, 2021 at 5:09 pm
  • RCAVictor

    May 8, 2021 at 4:22 pm
    • editor

      RCA Victor,

      That looks really interesting – will read it properly later.

      May 11, 2021 at 10:27 am

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