Ireland/UK: Why The Loud Silence From The Catholic Hierarchy On Creeping Totalitarianism?editor
In the above thoroughly engaging conversation, having pointed out that there is no medical or other logical reason for vaccine passports, the ministers go on to reflect on the lack of leadership within Christianity at this time of “creeping totalitarianism”. Personally, I think it’s already crept… unarguably, we’re now living in a totalitarian state. David – the minister from Northern Ireland – comments that it is more what the supposed Church leaders are NOT saying, than anything which they do say, that puzzles him. He very sensitively avoids naming (and shaming) the Catholic hierarchy which is a pity; since nothing we say makes the slightest difference, it may be that a few hard-hitting words in the ecumenical spirit, just might do the trick. At one point he mentions a photo of a congregation separated into “vaccinated” and “unvaccinated” – I am almost sure that someone posted such a photo during a previous blog discussion, shocking because such segregation was taking place in a Catholic church. On the other hand, we find a Catholic priest in England in trouble with his diocese (Portsmouth – horrendously modernist through and through) because he urged his parishioners not to take the vaccine. We need more priests like Father Roth to speak out – and even one bishop would be a start…
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Finally, for your interest, Dr William Philip will be interviewed on GB News tonight at 10pm. As well as being a minister, Dr Philip is a medical doctor, thus well equipped to speak on this subject. Let’s offer a prayer for him – the more people who are awakened to the truth about this deepening government authoritarianism, the better.
The Scottish hierarchy have been supping with the Devil for some decades, and forgot to take long spoons. Whether on purpose or not they they put up little resistance to sex education in schools, abortion on demand, Article 28 etc etc. Their public pronouncements were made in private. Now they have no cards left, the secular authorities see them for what they are, men of straw.
Since the video is just short of an hour long, I doubt if you’ve yet viewed. I would encourage you to do so because just repeating what we already know, de-contextualised from the current topic, is of very limited value.
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What about this link, then? Or is it that you just do not like my being here at all? It would be polite to make it clear, would it not?
Let me make this clear yet again; your behaviour on this blog is not normal. You do not comment in any meaningful way, most of the time. It is difficult to interpret your behaviour – I am not sure if you are a troublemaker or if you have some level of mental incapacity. You placed a link to a source which has nothing whatsoever to do with this topic, saying that the video was posted elsewhere. Now you post the actual video which we are already discussing, which is published at the top of this page, as if it is a brand new resource. As I say, I’m not sure whether you are a troll or just none too bright.
So, no, I don’t particularly want you here at all – I have given in more than once after blocking you when you seem to have changed your attitude and I will now leave you until I read your next comment but if you continue to disrupt our discussions, I will block you for good.
I hope that’s polite enough for you…
I would like to say something Positive but all that you Hear or don’t Hear from so called Catholic Bishops is ” Well we’re only following The Boss “. Just on another note a Woman a So Called Catholic one in England who runs a Business making Rosaries and Priests Vestments on Facebook said that now Her Parents had the Mengele Injections that we Peasants who don’t take Gates Poison should be banned from getting any Treatment on the N.H.S . This from a Woman who says Her Young Husband in His late 30s has M.E. and can never work again as He gets exhausted to easily. I just said He was Lazy and living off of us . She also had a go fund You Page because Her Husband couldn’t work. Of course I was in the wrong ( and probably was ) saying He was Lazy . But certainly didn’t say He should have been refused Treatment.
I suppose also many on Here today seen Nighty Night Tobins Letter saying that Everyone should get Gates Poison for the Common Good as that is what Bergoglio said.
Going back to Bergoglio He has in my Humble Opinion now literally resigned from the Papacy. In His Garbage Statement He has more or Less said that all Masses before Vatican 2 were False.
This Man should now not even be listened to by Catholics ( of course that won’t Happen unfortunately ) as when He puts out a Document it should be From The Holy Spirit and not The Unholy Chinese Communist Party.
Faith of our Fathers,
All you have to do to show that woman’s ignorance is is quote the minister, Dr William Philip, who is also a medical doctor, explaining that getting vaccined doesn’t protect anyone except the person who has had the vaccine.
I really found that conversation between the four ministers helpful and very enjoyable. I bet we couldn’t find four priests, never mind four bishops to show as much knowledge of the medical and ethics side, not to say the theological side of this whole scam. They really have put the Catholic bishops to shame. Their silence will speak for itself in the history books.
There are, actually, priests who agree with the four ministers (some of them signed the letter) but for them to publicly speak out in the same way would mean trouble afoot. Everything, remember, is upside down right now, as we live through the worst ever crisis in the Church. At the heart of this crisis, remember, is the Pope himself. Sister Lucia wasn’t kidding when she warned of a “diabolical disorientation” to come in the Church and the world. And as Father Gruner (RIP) never tired of quoting, St Paul tells us “…not extinguish the Spirit. Do not treat prophecies with contempt, but test all things. Hold fast to what is good.… so we must spread the truth about Fatima, to show that God has prepared us for this shocking crisis. Here is one of our discussions which springs to mind because the video there is one of the best, most concise, I’ve ever seen on the Fatima apparitions.
With all due respect, we are lucky to have (at least) one prelate in Scotland; and maybe in Britian or Ireland; who has traditional Catholic principles.
Bishop Stephen Robson of Dunkeld has sanctioned the celebration of the Mass of the Ages by Fr. Ninna Duhan in St Patrick’s Church in Dundee in defiance of Vatican diktats. Deo Gracis.
Yes, I have always maintained that Bishop Robson is the only one I can point to amongst the Scottish bishops as still retaining a supernatural sense of the Catholic faith. I know of his defence of Fr. Duhan and I sincerely hope that God grants that Bishop Robson be elected the new Archbishop of Glasgow, although that would require a miracle.
Watersider, to the best of my knowledge most Scottish Bishops have not stopped the Traditional Mass in thier diocese. Someone told me that there was no way that Bishop Robson would stop Fr Doohan from saying Mass and on the day that the Pope published his restrictions the Archbishop of Edinburgh phoned the FSSP priest there and told him there would be no restrictions on the Traditonal Mass in his diocese. Apparantly Bishop Toal of Motherwell has stopped the celebration of Sunday Mass but is allowing Mass on Thursdays, which makes no sence at all. In England the Bishop of Clifton banned the Traditional Mass in the parish of Glastonbury where the friars are allowed to say Mass privatly without a congregation. A friend tells me that the Friars have told thier “Latin Mass people” where the nearest SSPX chapel is.
LittleCharie, it’s early days yet, and now that one Scottish bishop has banned Sunday TLM, others might do the same.
You say it makes no sense to ban the Sunday but allow Thursday but it does make sense to those twisted minds. They don’t want their churches empty on Sundays when there is an obligation to attend Mass, so Toal is allowing a weekday Mass for now. That will probably go eventually, as well.
That’s a very educational video indeed. Those four ministers are not afraid to speak honestly about the totalitarian (one said “authoritarian”) way we are being governed now and they are right to complain about the silence from so-called Church leaders. I suspect they mean the Pope and Bishops but are too polite to say so – like Editor, I wish they would do so. I wonder if they realise that Francis is the worst pope ever in Church history or are they fooled by his fake humility? I know it’s fake because a truly humble pope would know that he had a duty to speak out about the way God is being outlawed and atheistic totalitarianism being put in his place. I often think of Pope Saint Pius X and his very first encyclical, To Restore All Things In Christ. It wasn’t long (like Francis’s nonsensical letters) but it pulled up the godless society of his day. He was a truly humble pope who knew his duty. We need another Pius X, and fast.
I really did enjoy watching that video – it was an hour well spent.
It was very refreshing to hear the ministers calling out the rise of totalitarianism in both Ireland and the UK. If only more people would waken up and smell the coffee.
You prompted me to check out E Supreme – the first encyclical of Pius X – and it is worth reading over and over again
I think you mean “wake up and smell the crisis”! Too many Catholics are going along on their merry way, as if there’s not a single thing wrong in either the Church or the world. Talk about ignorance being bliss…
When I went to Sign the Petition opposing this Evil I was confronted in an Advert about what Jane Smiths Homosexual Wife now wants. Just the sort of Advert that gladdens ones Heart on a Saturday Night. ( I mustn’t say ).One of the things I was disappointed in the Video above is that their was no Mention of the Health Damage especially to Young Women from these Injections.I know there all maybe trying to reach a wider Audience ( so to speak.) But the immense Health Damage these Gates Injections have caused Young Women is a crime ,and should be spoken about.
As Athanasius said yesterday The Daily Mail won’t even put on an Anti Mengele Injection Comment.
And these Injections BTW we know break all 10 Nuremberg Code Laws .
Faith of our Fathers,
The discussion was about vaccine passports, not the vaccine itself, although the minister/doctor made a good job of explaining that the vaccine, if it helps anyone, only helps the person vaccinated not the rest of us. If they’d gone into every aspect of the vaccination you’d have been moaning about the video being too long. It just amazes me that anybody could see anything negative about the video at all. I found it greatly helpful.
I agree 100%. There’s nothing to criticise in that video – it’s first class. As you say, the ministers could hardly cover everything under the sun but they did really well debunking the idea that vaccine passports are either necessary or moral. They are not. What is totally shameful is that it takes four Protestant ministers to speak out about the immorality of this, while the Catholic priests, bishops and pope keep schtum. Scrub that, while the Pope and bishops are telling us to get vaccinated. If only they would keep schtum!
I just assumed that getting vaccinated would protect others, as that is how the government is selling it to us, so it was an eye-opener to hear the doctor saying that only the person vaccinated is protected, and even that’s not guaranteed. Just shows how they push propaganda until most people, like me, not knowing the medical facts, just accept it as true that vaccination will protect the population.
It’s real evil at work around us. God help us all.
That key information, that vaccines only protect the person vaccinated (and there’s no guarantee of that) and NOT those around them, is something to drive home at every opportunity. It’s a central point. Thank you for highlighting it.
Now this I really don’t get. Of course your vaccine will not safeguard your neighbour directly but surely if it protects you from getting Covid then it means that you are unlikely to pass it on. So that does protect others. Surely?
The problem is that the vaccine protects no one, not even the vaccinated. 40% of COVID hospitalised patients in the UK are of double vaccinated people. What’s even more worrying is that the vaccine is said to be causing the more infectious “Delta variant” due to its interaction with the immune system, although it is also said by experts like Dr. Malone, etc. that it is no more dangerous than the original flu-like COVID. It’s all smoke and mirrors with government and their science lackies – vaccines don’t work but COVID is not dangerous to most people anyway. It’s just a ruse to usher in totalitarian rule.
Your comment surprised me when you wrote “Of course your vaccine will not safeguard your neighbour directly” but isn’t that the message we’re getting? We’re “selfish” if we don’t get jabbed because that means others are at risk.
It’s nonsense. As has been said on here often, and this is my position, I don’t have to do anything to my body to keep anyone else safe. As the ministers pointed out in the video, it’s unethical for medical people to be pushing any medical treatment on healthy people.
I thought the most telling comment was near the end, when one minister pointed out the duty of Christianity to minister to the marginalized, the suffering, etc. – but now rejects that ministry in the case of the “unvaccinated,” – the new untouchables.
Too bad Pope Francis will never watch this: it nails his hypocrisy to the wall. Francis now refuses to smell the sheep who are unvaccinated, refuse them admission to his Masses, turns them away from his “field hospital.” His compassion was nothing but public relations soundbytes, false and empty promises, carrots yanked away as soon as the faithful reach for them.
In other words, the Communist modus operandi.
Victor we all know who read this Terrific Site ( take note Ed ) that Jorge Bergoglio is not a Catholic.
Even going back to His Altar Boy Days ,if you Remember the answer He gave to a Young Boy who wrote to Him went something Like This . ” When I was an Altar Boy the Mass back then was said in Latin and I had great FUN mixing up the Latin with Spanish sounding Words . This sometimes confused the Priest saying Mass and I Had a Great Laugh “. This was the Answer Bergoglio gave back to a Boy who Believed He was writing to a Pope.
As far as am concerned Their is no Hypocrisy concerning Bergoglio as He’s now just Following Out His Chinese Bosses Orders .
As I wrote on another Article Our so called good Bishop whom the ED reminded me of His Backing up of a Let’s just call Fr Morton a Swish Priest. Who shopped a very good Priest Fr Morris to the
M.S.M. because Fr Morris offered up Benediction and Prayers when a Horrible Homosexual Pride March was going through the City of Glasgow. The Bishop has banned Our TLMASS on a Sunday.
It’s 10.20 here and I was at 8.00 TLMASS. It has to be discontinued after next week.
I also along with many others EMailed the Bishop ( I know of course He won’t read it ) especially about the Condescending Words within the Letter. Which more or less said that WE were not following the Legitimate Mass . Of course He’s only following what His Boss said.
Also as Far as Catholic Clergymen in The South of Ireland are concerned,as long as most if not all of them gets to Live off of the Fat of The Land they will say Nothing.
Just Like their Terrible Silence in 1981 . I think av said enough concerning that year .
But Victor if you’ve never seen a Movie called HUNGER it explains it all . And Bishops said Nothing.
It is beyond shocking that Pope Francis’s Mass will discriminate against the unvaccinated. What a disgrace.
When he comes to Glasgow in November, I’d give my last bar of chocolate to confront him, but wee Nicola
StalinSturgeon would not be pleased and we can’t go about the place annoying her…
I agree that all four men have spoken clearly and honestly in this matter. I detected throughout the video that, although they didn’t say so, they are looking to the Catholic hierarchy to speak out. They know the power of the moral voice of the Church and they are dumbfounded that that voice is silent. It tells me that even Protestant ministers of obvious good will and integrity know that the Catholic Church should be taking the lead in this matter, instead of which the hierarchy has sold out to Satan and his evil NWO. I particularly picked up on the Irish Protestant minister’s observation that some denominations are already acting counter-Gospel by requiring certain sanitary steps before allowing people into the churches. I’m sure they must also be aware that Pope Francis’s public Mass in some country he’s due to visit soon is banned to all faithful who don’t have a vaccine passport. I mean, this is the purest evil having a Christian façade put on it.
Your comment about the ministers somehow being aware of the power of the moral voice of the Catholic Church, reminded me of something I read in Catholic Truth about Donald Trump. This is from memory so I hope I get it right but the thing was someone had asked whether it would be better for the USA to a fully religious president, since Trump wasn’t that, but the answer was very interesting. The answer was that although Donald Trump wasn’t an openly committed Christian, somehow he knew that God was important and had to be at the basis of the nation’s life. It was more important to have that kind of person that someone who professed to be a believer but wasn’t really – something like that, sorry I can’t remember it exactly.
I’d forgotten about that, so I went in search and found it quite quickly. It’s top of page 16 in the July, 2020 edition, Issue # 118.
It was a quote from an interview with Dennis Prager, well known American commentator, on YouTube, in which Dennis was asked if Trump were a “religious man”. Prager replied:
“Not my business to determine that, and I never evade questions. I don’t care if he’s an atheist or a firm believer. I care that people understand that without God and the Bible, America will sink… the US was founded on a limited government. The Founders understood the following: people are not basically good… So, to be free, people have to be controlled because unchecked they will murder and they will rape. That’s the way life is. So, we have to get men and women to be good and the Founders said: look, we have a choice. The government can control people or God can control people, so the only way to get government small is to make God big…
“… If we get rid of God in American life, we will end up less free. Trump, in some way, understands this. Whether he believes in God or not, therefore, is irrelevant to me. I’d much rather have an agnostic President who understands the need for God and Bible in America, to a religious President who doesn’t understand that need.” End of Extract.
You remember the gist of it perfectly, so since I’m in the middle of writing up the September edition, I’m thinking (at last) that it’s all worthwhile 😀
Thank you for posting this video, dear Editor. I’ll watch it with much interest. By chance I was able to catch most of the interview last night with Rev. Dr. Philip on GB News. What a fine, eloquent Christian gentleman. After the break there was a discussion among the panel which was supportive of his views and encouraging to hear. Something you’d never hear on the BBC.
Yes, I saw the GB News interview as well – excellent. And the panel were unanimous in praising Dr Philip afterwards. Apparently, Neil Oliver (Scots archaeologist and GB News panellist) later named him “Briton of the Year”.
The only thing that bothered me about this video was that I’m skeptical whether 4 Protestant ministers, sitting comfortably in their offices and offering calm and accurate assessments of this orchestrated Satanic plot, can really convey the urgency of the sinister situation in which we find ourselves. Or, for that matter, ANYONE sitting comfortably in their offices.
It is obvious that Satan’s minions no longer care how accurately their intentions are discussed and exposed – they intend to implement their plan, and crush any and all opposition, by brute force.
So…at what point does the calm, level-headed approach fail?
Your comment of today, 3:29pm mystified me. It’s like saying what good are any of us doing sitting comfortably at our computers. What do you think the ministers should have done instead, to “convey the urgency of this orchestrated Satanic plot”? Scream the place down? Shout and demand Bill Gates’ head?
None of us has the power to actually DO anything about this evil in the sense of “conveying the urgency” as if that will make any difference. All we can – and must do – is speak out to defend the truth. If we do it dramatically, we’ll be written off as nutters, and we’ll have made no difference at all to the situation, just put a lot of people off believing us.
When we were confirmed the bishop didn’t say we were Soldiers of Christ as long as we made our voices heard, literally, shouting from the rooftops! We all have to do whatever we can as we witness the spread of atheistic Communism across the world, but using our skills, talents and common sense to reach people, not put them off.
As for your final question – I think the answer is “never”. God will act in due course- after the Consecration of Russia – to put this all to rights, but in the meantime, our duty is to alert as many other people as possible to the very “orchestrated Satanic plot” you speak of. Nobody will pay a blind bit of attention if we act in a way that is excitable and irrational. One of the most admirable things about those 4 Protestant ministers was the very fact that they were “calm and accurate in their assessments” of what is going on. I think you might agree with me on second thoughts. I hope, LOL!
I actually saw the interview with Dr William Philip on GB News just after 10pm last night and the programme had lots of very positive feedback from people emailing in to say how impressed they were with him, right afterwards. So, with respect, I think you underestimate how much good the four ministers have done by speaking so calmly to give accurate information on a subject where we’re only getting the one view. You must remember that, whatever it’s like in the USA (I believe you have some TV channels where alternative views are heard) we don’t have the luxury of hearing other medics, only the government-approved ones, so although we discuss the issues on here all the time, the fact is, the majority of the UK population don’t hear anything but the biased government-controlled media with their small circle of “experts”. Nobody is allowed to challenge anything they say, so the fact that Dr Philip spoke calmly and factually was crucial and did make a lot of people start to think again.
I’m hoping that GB News has got over it’s bad start – it was mocked by the rest of the media who don’t want an alternative news sources, and their own in-fighting didn’t help, so I am hoping that’s all over and I’m keeping tuned into the channel instead of the BBC or Sky from now on.
I only discovered what channel GB News was on with Virigin Media today, so now I’ll certainly be preferring that to the fake news channels. It remains to be seen, though, just how daring GB News will be prepared to be with news that the others are deliberately suppressing. Will we ever see a Mike Yeadon interview, for example? Somehow I advertising revenue may stunt their ambitions on the uncomfortable truth front.
You will have heard the old adage: “The pen is mightier than the sword”. It’s actually so true – a good writer or speaker with proper exposure to the public can sway an entire nation, or several nations. My only concern with the video was with the minister down on the right hand corner – Paul Levy, I think. He didn’t come across to me as either informed or engaging – spent most of his time looking sideways out of the window. The other three I thought were extremely informed and really fired up.
Your remarks about the calm etc ministers surprises me so much that I can only think of one response and that is in the form of two questions for you…
1) What do you think the ministers ought to have done, rather than sit comfortably etc.?
2) At what point do you think the calm, level-headed approach fails?
And before you complain that I’m trying to catch you out, just remember that magicians pass every exam because of trick questions… 😀
My comment wasn’t intended as a criticism of the ministers – I thought they articulated the situation very well (except for the fellow who kept looking out the window, and who appeared to be bored). My point was that the calm, reasoned approach doesn’t seem to be working. Truth is seeping out through hundreds of cracks in the NWO edifice, but…where is the justice?
Answer: it ain’t happenin’, as far as I can tell.
Hmmm….maybe Rev. Looking Out the WIndow is as impatient as I am for results….
I just don’t know how to answer your latest comment (@10.40pm) except to ask again – what is the alternative to the “calm reasoned approach”? You don’t give any concrete answer(s) to that. It seems to me that the only options are violence or silence. Neither of which is appropriate to a Confirmed Soldier of Christ.
And I have to be honest and say that I am definitely not in the same intellectual camp as your good self because I haven’t a clue what you mean by “Truth is seeping out through hundreds of cracks in the NWO edifice, but…where is the justice?” You’ve lost me there!
Of course, the time difference between us means that I’m well overdue my beauty sleep so maybe tomorrow I’ll “get it”. Right now, though, me no understand…
I did smile at your description of the Rev Paul Levy – as I laughed at his description of some of his own congregation as “weird and wacky”. He’d better duck next Sunday 😀
Unlike your good self, I am in the same intellectual camp as RCAVictor, by which I simply mean that I understand exactly what he means about the cracks in the NWO edifice. He’s saying that the signs of a great global con are everywhere evident, made more so daily by people like those Protestant ministers, yet nothing is changing and there is no public outcry.
He’s absolutely right about that, as are you when you reiterate that there’s not a lot we can do about it other than continue to do our Confirmation duty to speak out and leave the rest to God.
Ultimately this is about our continued fidelity to truth and to justice despite the apparent failure of our efforts. We will see truth and justice prevail in the long run, God will see to that. In the meantime we have to just keep exposing those cracks in the NWO edifice. As the old adage goes: “Man proposes but God disposes”.
Our efforts will unltimately triumph with Our Lady’s triumph. We’re involved here in opposing something that is evil in its origin, a manifestation of the demonic which has taken in a good many people in the world. Only in God’s good time will it be fully exposed for what it is. That particular certainty, however, does not dispense us from our duty to continue to speak out. I suppose there will be some people in the world who have their eyes opened by what we and others have revealed, though we never know who they are this side of eternity. Anyway, we do our Confirmation duty regardless of apparent deafness and blindness on the part of the world. God is neither deaf nor blind to our efforts.
“[RCA Victor] is saying that the signs of a great global con are everywhere evident, made more so daily by people like those Protestant ministers, yet nothing is changing and there is no public outcry.”
Well that certainly makes sense – but I couldn’t see that in RCA Victor’s comment, which I interpreted to mean “nothing is changing so what’s the point of a calm reasoned response?”
Thus we were going round in circles since I cannot see any alternative to the “calm reasoned response” except a violent response or silence. So, thank you for that clarification.
The only secular path I can think of, instead of the calm, reasoned approach, is to get out in the street and rally and demonstrate nonviolently – although the odds of getting your head cracked open by police thugs are pretty good in that situation. But that seems to be the path more and more people are taking: confrontational.
As for truth seeping out everywhere, I was referring to the truth about things like the vaccines and passports, the scam-demic, the stolen American election, Wuhan lab biowarfare, the great reset, the climate change hoax – i.e. the whole NWO menu, including its occult foundation. There are now dozens of websites and podcasters – probably hundreds, in fact – working to expose all this on a daily basis.
But here’s the rub: despite their valiant efforts and perseverance, the criminals have yet to be brought to justice.
Hope that helps, he said helpfully….
Yes, definitely helps – I knew I’d get there in the end!
Here’s a short clip of Bishop Schneider on the subject of our situation, which has just arrived in my inbox… The only problem is he is using the calm and reasoned approach. Shucks! Have these clergymen never heard of rallies? 😀
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