Morality/Sin: Was BBC Phone-in Caller Wrong to Lie In Order To Expose Vaccine Propaganda?

Morality/Sin: Was BBC Phone-in Caller Wrong to Lie In Order To Expose Vaccine Propaganda?

Hundreds of thousands of listeners on Friday heard a courageous caller, ‘John in Manchester’ who ‘blagged’ his way on to Jeremy Vine’s Radio 2 show to counter the BBC’s Covid vaccine propaganda, lay it all bare. It was riveting – ‘John’ put it to Vine straight up why was there no BBC reporting of the 1,500 deaths in Britain due to the vaccine.

To every attempt by Vine to intimidate him and denigrate his stance John came back with the perfect riposte. It was a masterclass in staying on the front foot, what I call ‘walking towards the fire’ with an even stronger reply. John performed a public service.

That a senior BBC presenter refuses (so vehemently too) to see that the whole point of the Yellow Card system is to flag up potential dangers was jaw-dropping. They are not just the postcards from the seaside that he treated them as. Does he not understand that it is up to the regulators to study the reports, and to act when necessary? Is he not aware that doctors in particular are often reluctant to admit that a ‘treatment’ has caused harm? That many doctors themselves are unaware of the system they should be using? That studies have indicated that actual adverse events are 10-100 times more frequent that the reports would suggest? Or that when medics or relatives do submit a report, it is because the individual became sick in a way that gave rise to the suspicion or likelihood that the illness was not just a coincidence, but an adverse event from the vaccine?

Finally, we assume that along with the rest of the BBC he has turned a blind eye to that fact that in the case of the Covid vaccines, the number of suspected adverse events is through the roof compared with all other vaccines and drugs; there has never been anything like it previously.    To read rest of this report, click here

Comments (22)

  • Nicky

    I think it’s always better to avoid telling a lie. If “John from Manchester” had wanted to trick his way onto the show, he could probably have found a way to do that without lying. Having said that, as he said himself when mocked for lying, the BBC has been lying about the vaccines all along. So, it’s awash!

    August 16, 2021 at 3:10 pm
    • editor


      I agree that it’s always better to avoid telling a lie, but in this case, I’m not sure I would characterise what the caller said as “a lie”. He was repeating propaganda, with a view to correcting it – some might consider him a satirist!

      In any event, what the BBC is doing is to repeat the lies peddled by the Government so in the case of the pot calling the kettle back, I’d back the kettle 😀

      August 16, 2021 at 6:30 pm
  • graeme taylor

    If it got him on to the BBC ( who lie in trying to block people from getting on to ask the real questions about this propaganda of fear) then it is a win win. Jeremy Vine like so many in the media are chocolate teapots when it comes to public service broadcasting.

    August 16, 2021 at 6:15 pm
    • editor



      August 16, 2021 at 6:33 pm
  • crofterlady

    I don’t think it’s ever right to lie but it did make me laugh. Set a thief to catch a thief! Jeremy Vine is a snake in the grass.

    August 16, 2021 at 7:52 pm
    • editor

      Whatever happened to your wise old owl avatar – no lies, now!

      August 16, 2021 at 8:22 pm
      • crofterlady

        I don’t know; it just vanished!

        August 17, 2021 at 5:22 pm
      • crofterlady

        I replied but it vanished too! Just like my avatar!!

        August 17, 2021 at 5:25 pm
    • Michaela


      I agree about not lying, but was he actually lying? I don’t think so. Here is a definition I found on another site:

      “Lying is knowingly telling something that’s not true with the intent to deceive.Thus, being mistaken or telling fictional stories for entertainment are not forms of lying.”

      John from Manchester didn’t intend to deceive, as soon as he got on air he made it clear what he really believed, so you could argue that his first statement was fictional knowing that once on air, he was going to entertain! LOL!

      August 16, 2021 at 10:40 pm
  • Faith of Our Fathers

    If John would have told the Truth about what He was wanting to talk about we know there is No Way that The Rotten To The Core Marxist LGBTQ2WXYZ. Critical Race Theory Useless BBC
    would have let him put any point across.
    Even as Athanasius said last Week. That He commented Numerous Times on the Now Equally Marxist Anti Catholic Daily Mail and NOT ONE ,NOT ONE comment was let past the Marxist Rottweilers for Public Viewing. I done the same and none of my Comments seen the Light of Day. So another Paper goes in the Bin . Going back to the useless BBC am really glad that I do Not now pay them a Penny for their
    B.S. And they know, that if they had to rely on Subscription, were they A Pay Per View or even a Pay Per Listen. They would be Broke in a Year . It’s time to stop Funding these Reprobates.
    I know that it is the Law of the Land ,but it is Stealing from the Poor to give to The Rich as far as the Rotten BBC is Concerned.
    I just wish someone would Legally take them on as regards having to pay £157.50 even if they don’t Watch their Garbage. Of course in Lawyers Fees and Court Fees it would run into
    £10s of Thousand of Pounds and they ,the BBC know that .
    As for the Fabricated Chinese Disease. Am sure the Head Bummers at the Rotten BBC will be getting Money off of China . Just as it seems every other Major News Outlet like Sky Etc .
    The only Truth is on Conservative Catholic Sites ,who don’t Bow Down to Bergoglios every whim
    And on Catholic Truth of course.

    August 16, 2021 at 8:31 pm
    • Lily

      Faith of our Fathers,

      That’s really what I meant to say in my comment – there’s no way he would have got onto the show if he had told the truth about his position. The fact that they quiz people to weed out anyone going off the propaganda message, speaks for itself.

      August 16, 2021 at 10:34 pm
      • Michaela

        That is totally correct. If he’d said what he really believe right off, he’d never have been broadcast. Jeremy Vine gave that away when he read out what he thought John was going to say. We’re in a war now, and so all possible means of getting the truth out there need to be put to good use.

        August 16, 2021 at 10:42 pm
  • Lily

    LOL! I don’t think John has anything to confess (if he’s a Catholic going to Confession!)

    He was trying to get onto a platform that is controlled by enemies of the truth, so all’s fair in love and war, as the saying goes!

    August 16, 2021 at 10:33 pm
  • westminsterfly

    Islam has a word for it: taqiyya – full definition here:-

    August 17, 2021 at 1:31 pm
  • crofterlady

    I twice answered you Editor, but the replies vanished along with my avatar!

    August 17, 2021 at 5:26 pm
    • editor


      Your comments didn’t vanish. The new system of posting comments is a bit different. You need to wait for a few seconds, when you will see “Submitting Comment” before it LOOKS like it’s disappearing but it’s not. All of your comments are on this thread. What was NOT on this thread was your avatar, and here’s why.

      You need to always login with the email address you used at the time of setting up your avatar. If you use any other email your avatar will not show. Even if it’s not an email you use any more, you still need to use it at login.

      I searched for the last comment you submitted which had your avatar and, sure enough, it was a different email. I then went into each of your comments and replaced your email with the one required to show your avatar. They don’t call me highly intelligent for nothing.

      I hope this is clear enough – I’m swamped right now, so this is the most coherent I can be without twenty bars of chocolate and some orange juice (with bits) 😀

      August 17, 2021 at 6:19 pm
  • Dominican Tom

    I must confess that this whole pandemic is causing me to have something of a crisis of faith.

    For example, does anyone else worry that we might have gotten it very wrong about vaccines and they were in fact a gift from God or even a miracle?

    The good Cardinal Leo Burke was among the 4 Cardinals that created the Dubia of that same 4, 2 are now sadly dead and now our dear Cardinal Burke is gravely ill. I don’t understand why God would not preserve them?

    I fervently pray hourly for his rapid recovery but I also worry if after all the fighting and division, God has shown the might of his arm?

    I recall reading here a while back on CTS that some people felt they would not be too upset or surprised if Pope Francis succumbed to his own recent health scare and this would in fact be a good thing as it would bring his reign to an end. Some even confessed to feelings of glee and excitement at thought of his demise.

    Yet, providence as preserved the Holy Father to issue his recent Apostolic Letter but not others, so how must we understand and discern this most obvious sign from God?

    August 17, 2021 at 9:19 pm
    • Athanasius

      Dominican Tom

      I do not personally recall anyone on this blog expressing excitement or glee at the possibility of Pope Francis’ demise from his recent health scare. There was, however, a perfectly natural inclination to hope that perhaps Our Lord might bring his disastrous reign to an end sooner rather then later, hopefully in a way that also saw the Pope repent of the destruction he has visited upon Catholic faith and morals since his election. There is no question that he has made it his business to do as much damage to the Traditional Catholic faith as he can possibly manage during his reign, of that there is now absolutely no question.

      As to the vaccines being potentially a miracle cure for COVID, I can only cocnlude from such a statement that you have not sufficiently studied the virus or the supposed cure in any great detail. Had you done so then I feel sure that you would not have made such a statement. No, the virus is from a Chinese lab and the vaccines are damaging to human health, even fatal in many cases. But it’s the suppressed information on how the spik proteins generated by these vaccines is damaging female fertility in particular which leads many experts to believe that population control is the ultimate end of COVID and the vaccines. The evidence, when thoroughly studied at expert level, leaves us in no doubt about this.

      Hence, the virus and the increasingly-enforced experimental vaccine (against all international law) are elements of a global chastisement that God is allowing to fall on a world that has turned almost fully away from Him, a world given over to materialism and immorality. Pope Francis is another element of that chastisement, the Pope who closes down the House of God, insists on forced unlawful vaccinations with vaccines created form or tested using the stem cells of murdered babies.

      The grave illness of Cardinal Burke is without question caused by the refusal of medical personnel to administer true miracle cures, such as Ivermetcin. Indeed, “miracle cure” was precisely the term used by an American Senator (also a doctor) when he addressed the Senate Committee on Ivermeticin’s impact on COVID. Hydroxicloriquine is, of course, the other known cure. But these drugs are cheap and effective, so they did not fit with the NWO population control programme or China’s global ambition to become the new global superpower by destroying Western economies with lockdowns. Add to that the ridiculous fortune the pharmaceutical companies stand to make from their vaccines and it’s very easy to see which side is evil and which side is good.

      Cardinal Burke has been denied the true miracle cure for COVID and placed instead on a ventilator, a sure death sentence. Maybe they figure that the death of such a prelate will help their false narrative about the virus and encourged the reluctant to finally take their experimental poisons, who knows. At any rate, putting aside the dangers of these vaccines, no knowledgeable Catholic can receive them morally. The Traditional teaching of the Church is clear and longstanding – it cannot be undone by a Modernist Vatican document that proceeds from false information as to how many abortions took place and when. There is no question that the cell lines in question reuqired many hundreds (or thousands) more abortions than the 2 we’re told about. If you believe that God blesses that kind of evil while inflicting punishment on those who stand for the Traditional teaching of the Church then I would have to agree that your faith is indeed in great danger of being lost. Beware the smoke and mirrors of Lucifer that comes with the general government/media narrative. Do your research and use the reason that God gave you to weigh all the evidence. Some of the world’s top experts are sounding the alarm bells and being suppressed in the media for their efforts – find them on alternative media and listen to what they have to say.

      August 17, 2021 at 10:40 pm
      • editor


        Crystal clear – thank you for that.

        I came in to post the latest ridiculous Covid news. New Zealand’s version of Nicola Sturgeon has put the entire country into another full lockdown – following ONE (unconfirmed) new Covid case. Honestly, you couldn’t make this stuff up. How DO these lunatics get to run whole countries? Incredible She’s doing the Nicola thing, being “cautious”… Idiot.

        August 17, 2021 at 11:14 pm
  • Athanasius


    We know the world has gone completely nuts when an entire nation is closed down because of one (unconfirmed) respiratory virus case. Bonkers!

    August 17, 2021 at 11:35 pm
    • editor

      Well, bad enough as New Zealand is, The Daily Sceptic leads with some extremely worrying news about Scotland and our “Chief Mammy”… Read on…

      One of the most alarming things about the response to the pandemic by democratic governments across the world is the enthusiasm with which they’ve granted themselves ’emergency’ powers, suspending civil rights – and elections – so that they might better deal with the ‘crisis’. Executives have faced little opposition from legislatures, attempts to restrain political leaders through the courts have been largely unsuccessful and the media has, for the most part, failed to hold them to account. Bad though this has been, however, we have always been able to take some comfort from the fact that these extraordinary powers were temporary and that, eventually, when things returned to normal, governments would have to relinquish them.

      Turns out, that was naïve. The Scottish Government has unveiled plans to make its ’emergency’ Covid powers permanent. The Telegraph has more.

      John Swinney, the Deputy First Minister, unveiled a public consultation on removing the March 2022 expiry date for a host of extraordinary powers, including the ability to impose lockdowns, close schools and require people to wear face coverings.

      Controversial rules allowing more prisoners to be released early could also be extended, along with the wider use of fines as an alternative to prosecution.

      Mr Swinney insisted measures that were no longer needed would be removed, but argued those with “demonstrable benefit to the people of Scotland” should be retained for use against Covid or anything else deemed a public health threat.

      He argued the consultation was “an opportunity to maintain changes that have been welcomed by people who now don’t want to lose transformations that have been innovative” during the pandemic.
      Worth reading in full.

      Where’s Chris when we need him to reassure us that we’d NOT be living in a dictatorship if we voted for an independent Scotland and that, really, contrary to all appearances, wee Nicola – our “Chief Mammy/Dear Leader” is NOT a dictator.

      We’re waiting Chris…

      August 18, 2021 at 8:47 am
      • Athanasius


        This was bound to happen, we all saw it coming with this cultural Marxist SNP rabble with the dictator Sturgeon at their head. These people were largely the lowest of the low in Scotland before they somehow got into power. They’re thugs the lot of them and they are increasing their grip on our nation by deceit and abuse of authority. I’m convinced they’re also fiddling the mail in voting system to stay in power. It’s just like that Chinese lot in Beijing and the wee fat boy in North Korea.

        The people of Scotland need to get their act together and rid themselves of these SNP low lives very quickly – our country is laughing stock under them. Wee Nicola will miss the expensive outfits she’s been ripping from the tax payer these past years, a bit like Imelda Marcos with the shoes, but, hey, we would be quite happy to let her have the rags to take back with her to that Bellshill bedsit from whence she came. As for Swinney, the man is a national joke, failed miserably in every task he has been given, and yet he’s still there because the “Great Leader” from the gutter likes the cut of his Communist jib. In other words, he’s a faithful stooge.

        Good God, what has happened to our great country that it has ended up with this criminal element running it? How could it have happened? Are the education levels now so low in our nation that people actually believe en masse that these thugs are educated politicians with the best interests of Scots at heart? I don’t believe it for a minute – it has to be voter fraud, it’s the only explanation.

        August 18, 2021 at 11:57 am

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