Does the Church Need A Modern Day St Peter Damian To End Homosexual Infiltration?

Does the Church Need A Modern Day St Peter Damian To End Homosexual Infiltration?

Editor writes…

This shocking video report about a fake Carmelite monastery – produced by Church Militant, the American group whose dislike, if not hatred, of the Traditional Latin Mass is thinly disguised – arrived in my inbox today. Although we have no time for Church Militant (CM), the evidence for this report appears to be, as my  correspondent wrote “cut and dried”. Key documents are linked underneath the above video.  It prompted me to launch this thread about the deepening crisis of homosexual priests, including in Scotland, where, I’m reliably informed, at least half of the priests in the Archdiocese of Glasgow, are actively homosexual, with quite a few formed into an association of sorts known as “The Daisy Chain”.  I make no comment on any other Scottish diocese because no priests from any of them has contacted me with any concerns.  Read into that what you will…

We are increasingly concerned about the speed with which the Church in Scotland has become infested with the grave sin of homosexual activity.  In my opinion, we need a modern day Peter Damian to clear out these fake clergy, for, as you will see if you read the Vatican Instruction on vocations below, they should never have been admitted to seminary, let alone ordained, in the first place.  They need to go. Yet, instead of such a long overdue clear-out, the Diocese of Motherwell is about to ordain [yet another] known homosexual man.  I published an article on this subject in the current, January, newsletter,  which is reproduced below – you can read it at source here on p.2

Rome’s Gain is Oscott’s Loss
Diocese of Motherwell Set To Ordain An Actively Homosexual Man…

Some years ago, I contacted the Rector of the Scots College in Rome regarding one  Christopher Morris, a seminarian known to be pursuing what is euphemistically termed “the gay lifestyle”. I had a pleasant enough telephone conversation with Christopher at that time and—aware that I was prepared, if necessary, to publish the information which had been handed to me—he agreed (to paraphrase) that he’d be better off joining the Legion of Mary rather than continuing his studies for the priesthood.  In any event, he left the Scots College and yours truly was duly “credited” with having had him “thrown out” – this is how the case is covered on blogs across the internet, although I humbly decline the honour. Rome gained in the sense that they had managed to see off one of their “gay” students, since Holy Mother Church explicitly prohibits the ordination of homosexual men, for very sound reasons – click on the link to read the Instruction Concerning the Criteria for the Discernment of Vocations with regard to Persons with Homosexual Tendencies in view of their Admission to the Seminary and to Holy Orders

St Mary’s College, Oscott, however turned out to be the loser.  Rome’s gain became Oscott’s loss, since—incredibly—Morris was eventually accepted into Oscott, the seminary in Birmingham, England.

My initial reaction to this news was to wash my hands; this guy knows that he’s blatantly defying the Church’s prohibition on homosexuals entering seminaries, but then I thought better of it because this time he’s already been ordained deacon and before we know it, he’ll have been ordained a priest for the Diocese of Motherwell. Bishop Toal, I’m reliably informed, has no problem with Morris’s forthcoming ordination. Not surprising. After all, he has no problem with the LGBT+ activist priest Fr Paul Morton, PP in St Bride’s Cambuslang, so he’s hardly likely to suffer sleepless nights worrying about a notorious, by all accounts, sexually active new addition to the LGBT+ cohort under his paternal care.  Indeed, the only priest with whom Bishop Toal seems to have any problem is Father Matthew Despard, who had the temerity to expose the reality of the homosexually infested clergy pool in Motherwell in his book Priesthood in Crisis. Makes you wonder…

In one report, the Bishop addresses
Fr Despard as follows:

“…statements by parishioners and Fr Brian Lamb, of neighbouring St Joseph’s, show that those offended by you find it very difficult to hold you in any esteem as their parish priest.”

However, the members of Fr Despard’s support group refuted this claim by immediately publishing statistics to show that Mass attendance had dropped since Fr Despard’s departure. (Priest in book row quits his parish role, The Newsroom, Glasgow World, 14/12/16).  

Interesting, though, that the Bishop should mention Fr Brian Lamb.  For the purpose of writing this report, I emailed Fr Lamb because I wanted to let him know that his name is linked with Christopher Morris and to offer him the opportunity to confirm or deny his own “cheerful” orientation, so to speak. Could it be that Fr Despard was
correct in his assessment of Motherwell as a Home for Homosexuals, in a manner of speaking?  Whatever, I’m still awaiting a reply from said Fr Lamb, who, parishioners tell me, in his own version of the gift that keeps on giving, sings along with the choir/congregation as he distributes Holy Communion, if that IS what he distributes (see
p.4 How Do The Sacraments Work? )

Similarly, I emailed the Rector at Oscott to seek Morris’s email address but, despite giving permission to forward my message directly to the star of the show, I heard nothing back. I think “brazen” is the word.  And the bishops are in on it, which is why I didn’t bother notifying Bishop Toal that he is to enjoy yet another leading role in this humble newsletter.  The other reason why I didn’t bother my pretty little head contacting Bishop Toal is because he received the very same information about Christopher Morris and his priest partners which I received, so nothing here will be breaking news at the New Year’s Eve dinner parties across Motherwell Diocese.  Yes, the bishops are in on it. For example…

Here’s an extract from an Open Letter to the Bishops of England & Wales, sent by Fr David Marsden SCJ, a priest who was fired from his job as Formation Tutor at both Oscott and St Patrick’s, Maynooth (Ireland), for trying to do something about the homosexual activity in both seminaries:

One of the spiritual directors at Oscott Seminary has admitted to being sexually attracted to young men. It is highly inappropriate that such an individual hold such a post. The rector is aware of this fact but seems unable to confront this individual. He even noted that the friends who accompany this individual for holidays each year are also homosexual. Another of the spiritual directors in the seminary thinks that homosexual priests are a great idea as they can minister to the gay Catholic community.

The archbishop of Birmingham and the archbishop of Westminster have both been informed of these issues and seem to prefer to ignore them. Why do we continue to have such passive and feeble-hearted clerics in such high places of leadership in the Church? Why are they afraid to speak out on topics such as homosexuality in the clergy and the toxic gender ideology sweeping through our schools?  Click here to read entire letter.  

The administrator of the Buckley Blog in Ireland is the “go-to” outlet for at least one senior Scots priest, and said administrator kindly keeps me informed. Hence, the email sent to both Bishop Toal and me begins with the misleading line… “… Here is a rather sketchy history of Deacon Christopher Morris…” 

As I ploughed through it, I couldn’t help reflecting that if this is the “sketchy” history, I’d need a year off to read the full version. Well known priests in Scotland are named in this “sketchy history” and so, if this ordination goes ahead, Bishop Toal is 100% to blame for the damage which lies ahead. He is blatantly disobeying the Church’s prohibition on ordaining homosexuals. And note, everything contained in the Buckley document has been confirmed to me by a reliable independent source.

Apparently, the priests of Motherwell Diocese strongly object to the Morris ordination, but, given their hostile reaction to Fr Despard’s exposé of the homosexual state of that diocese back in the day, I doubt it. Let’s see if the alleged threats to boycott Morris’s ordination and to ban him from placements in their parishes, come to anything. I can’t see it. Crucially, and I’ll finish with this, the priest-author of the Buckley report concludes with this stark warning about deacon Christopher Morris:

He’s a safeguarding concern. He’s a danger to young men. He must be stopped for his own sake, for the sake of the Church, the priesthood and for the people of God; he’s a scandal waiting to burst. He must be stopped. We are genuinely fearful he will be ordained.”   Ends. 

Finally…

What do you think… Is it this infestation to which Pope Benedict referred when he spoke of “the filth in the Church”?  And don’t forget to answer the key question:  are we likely to find a modern day Saint Peter Damian any time soon, to end the ongoing (at breakneck speed) infiltration of Holy Mother Church?

And definitely finally…

Please do not come here to post the names of priests or anyone else employed by the Church, whom you think should be named.  We only do that after due process and this thread is NOT to be used for idle gossip or speculation about individuals.  Please and thank you…

Comments (42)

  • Faith of Our Fathers

    ED as far as am concerned Homosexuality is without a Doubt the Biggest Problem not just in Our Catholic Church but in Society as a Whole. I as you probably know am in the Diocese of Motherwell and most certainly have no Time for Mr Toal. He was certainly quick off the Mark cancelling our TLMass.

    I also remember without going into Internet Details the Horrible Morton Squealing on the Good Glasgow Priest who had a Benediction and Rosary at the same time as Morton’s TIES
    ( Pardon the Pun ) to The Reprobate Pride March. That Toal gave Morton His Blessing certainly put Toal off of my Christmas List.

    I watched the Horrible Arthur Roche on MMatts Remnant Video saying that we Catholics who prefer the TLMass better watch what we say as it could become Very Serious Very Serious indeed. It’s a Pity that the Swich Roche who preferred Dancing on Ice to standing behind an Altar didn’t make the same Serious Statement about Homosexuality and The Lavender Mafia. As for that Homosexual Mob in the C.M. Video I watched it last week. Believe it or not in one of the Comments . Their was a Person who couldn’t see anything wrong in a so called Head of The Monastery, Sitting in His underpants either giving out work orders or interviewing young Priests.
    I wonder if Bergoglio will shut them down ,or is that Jimmy Martin Bridge to Far.

    January 25, 2022 at 10:44 pm
  • Lily

    We absolutely DO need a Saint Peter Damian but where will we find one? This is one of the “phobes” – you’re a homophobe if you think there is anything wrong with men being homosexually active. It’s no longer allowed to offer a view and debate different takes on an issue. You have to just accept whatever “society” tells you to accept, and keep any views to ourselves, that go against the accepting narrative.

    It’s dreadful to think that around half the priests in Glasgow archdiocese are gay. How can they possibly bring down Christ at the Consecration or give true absolution in Confession if they are not recognising certain sins, as sins? It’s truly awful, but, as I said at the start of this comment, I can’t see anyone in the role of Saint Peter Damian coming along in the near future.

    January 25, 2022 at 11:24 pm
  • westminsterfly

    There have been two openly homosexual priests ordained in the UK last year to my certain knowledge, one in Westminster, one in Leeds. All this is common knowledge on the internet and they have been publicly named already. There was a third one connected to the Ordinariate – again in Westminster I think, but I’m not sure if that ordination went ahead. If the 1961 Vatican document Religiosorum Institutio https://adoremus.org/1961/02/religiosorum-institutio – which was a binding document – had been observed by bishops and religious superiors, maybe this wouldn’t have happened, or perhaps at least to a much lesser degree, because I think the rot started before 1961 – hence the need for the Vatican document in the first place. There were many communist infiltrators in the Church prior to the 1960’s (think of Bella Dodd’s admissions) and what better way to ’empire build’ than to recruit weak, compromised men who were easily open to blackmail. Of course, once a homosexual gets to a position of authority, he will then pull his own kind up the ladder with him. And the tragic results of all this are what we are left with today. I don’t know if we will be granted a modern day St Peter Damian. We ought to fervently pray for one. There are still some brave priests and laymen who speak out against this problem, but they generally meet with ridicule and the priests are punished by their bishops – such are the times we live in. I can’t remember which saint said it (St John Eudes maybe?) but I remember reading that he said that when God is angry with his people, He permits them to be sent bad priests. When you think of Pope Francis downwards – God must be MIGHTY angry with us at the moment.

    January 26, 2022 at 9:12 am
    • Josephine

      Westminster Fly,

      That Adoremus link which you posted is full of really important points. I started to copy one, then another, and in the end decided just to thank you for it as it helps to understand so much about what is going on in the religious life. The point was made that religious who are unfaithful and want to leave, try to blame their superiors, saying they should not have been accepted in the first place, but the author of the document points out that this shows them transferring their present state of mind and behaviour back to when they first entered, not recognising the gradual change in themselves. I find that very convincing, as it shows evidence of Satanic influence on the part of the failed religious.

      God is bound to be angry with us – the Church has been dropped in the sewer by those who are disobedient to God’s law, especially by indulging strong sexual appetites. I would not want to be in Pope Francis’ shoes on judgment day.

      January 26, 2022 at 11:46 am
    • James

      There isn’t anything in Church law that is against homosexuality, only homosexual acts. The priest shouldn’t have been punished at all, unless (same goes with straight priests) they had intercousrse which would be unfaithful to the church. Pope Francis has made this clear, and sadly those who suppose him are breaking church law too and should repent and reflect.

      March 9, 2022 at 10:27 am
      • Athanasius

        James

        You’re quite wrong about that. The Church has always been against homosexuality (tendency or practice), which it has always called “unnatural” or, to use the modern term, “disordered”. She does, however, as you suggest, praise those who resist the tendency with a strong prayer life and fidelity to the Commandments of God, though she never allowed people of such tendency to proceed to priestly ordination for obvious reasons. It’s only since Vatican II that prudence and wisdom, or could it be deliberate(?), that people of such tendency have been allowed to go forward and be ordained. In fact, I know that in the U.S. one is not allowed to enter a seminary unless one is at least not opposed to homosexuality. Do yourself a favour, James, and ignore what Francis says. If you listen to Pope Francis on homosexuality then I’m afraid you’re against the teaching of all his predecessors all the way back to St. Peter. Be careful!

        March 9, 2022 at 1:19 pm
      • westminsterfly

        No James,
        You should reflect (you seem to think we have something to ‘repent’ of, but I won’t make that rash judgement in your case) that both official Vatican documents on this matter make it crystal clear that men with same-sex attraction, which the Catechism states as ‘intrinsically disordered’ – are not to be ordained, whether they are chaste or not. I have produced the link to the Vatican 1961 document above, I produce it again for ease of reference: https://adoremus.org/1961/02/religiosorum-institutio The link to the more recent Vatican 2005 document is here: https://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/ccatheduc/documents/rc_con_ccatheduc_doc_20051104_istruzione_en.html Please read and reflect on these documents, and also reflect on the fact that Pope Francis has often been publicly contradictory in this matter and his off-the-cuff comments about being pro-‘gay’ – for example, made to journalists on a plane in 2013 I think – cannot be taken that he has officially changed Church doctrine on same-sex attraction and the priesthood. In fact, in 2018 Pope Francis publicly stated that ‘gay people should not join the Catholic clergy’: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/dec/02/gay-people-should-not-join-catholic-clergy-pope-francis-says Confused? So are most of us where Pope Francis is concerned. Which is why Catholics must place their trust in perennial Catholic teaching, as found in the Catechism of the Catholic Church and Magisterial documents on this matter (such as the 1961 and 2005 documents), and not fall into the trap of papolatry (i.e. accepting as Gospel every word that a Pope casually utters). There is a good article on papolatry by the late, great Dr William Marra here:- http://brizek.com/fandm/papalotry.htm

        March 9, 2022 at 1:30 pm
  • Laura

    The video of the fake Carmelite monastery is horrifying. How can those men be praying in the traditional Latin liturgy while behaving in the most scandalous way outside of the liturgy?

    As for the bishop of Motherwell. I’m sorry, but there is only one conclusion to draw if he is permitting an LGBT+ activist priest in post, ordaining another known gay to the priesthood yet leaving Father Despard suspended from ministry because of his expose of homosexual activity in the diocese.

    The sooner we find a modern day St Peter Damian the better, but I take Westminster Fly’s point that God must be very angry with us at this time and so we may have to wait a bit.

    January 26, 2022 at 10:32 am
    • Bernie

      Laura

      I think the answer to your question in paragraph one, has to be “they’re not praying”. No man who is truly praying and believes in God’s divine revelation could possible do the things those monks are doing, well some of them are doing. It was a relief to hear the young ex-novice say not all, but those must leave – how can they stay and support the lie that there is a Catholic religious life being lived in that house?

      January 26, 2022 at 3:00 pm
  • Josephine

    It is nothing short of disgraceful that the Vatican’s rules on entry to seminary are being so blatantly disobeyed by bishops and seminary rectors. When there are legal cases claiming abuse etc in the years to come, these bishops will have to face the music.

    As for that Church Militant video on the “Carmelite” monastery – that is one of the worst examples I’ve seen of apostasy at work within the Church. Those men do not even believe in God, let alone worship him “in spirit and in truth”. They are using the Church and the good name of the Carmelite Order to ply their evil trade.

    January 26, 2022 at 11:37 am
  • Bernie

    This is an awesome sermon which the Deacon Morris and Bishop Toal really need to hear.

    January 26, 2022 at 2:57 pm
    • Lily

      Bernie,

      That really is an awesome sermon – it wants to be shared far and wide. If only all priests would take on this topic, that would help correct the ignorance in the pews were we only get the woke version of morality.

      January 26, 2022 at 3:56 pm
    • editor

      Bernie,

      A terrific sermon – many thanks for posting. I would have used it in the introduction if I’d seen it in time.

      January 26, 2022 at 7:04 pm
    • Fidelis

      That is a fantastic sermon – by a priest of the Franciscans of the Immaculate, so we should not be surprised. They are a wonderful order. If only we could hear such challenges to the culture of acceptance of the LGBTQ lifestyle in our churches – or even from our pope!

      January 26, 2022 at 11:06 pm
  • Francis de sales aka DG

    As an outsider or a lurker of this blog, I’m starting to realise that a Bishop for instance, Bishop Toal are unto law themselves. Same can be said for other bishops in Scotland as well. Quite frankly, it’s a sorry state that they are in but not lot worse than Ireland. Some Monasteries in Ireland had been exposed especially double lives of a certain abbot, another abuser abbot et al. I felt sorry for Despard when he was quite severely reprimanded for outing some priests in his book. Where are his rights but it seems to me that fr Despard has no rights. That’s shocking offensive and an affront to any like minded decent Catholics. These bishops were far too brazen, and power hungry, dismissive of the Catholic laity as opposed to Christ like traits. What I couldn’t understand was that fr despard didn’t ask for an transfer out. I sincerely hope that the job for Archbishopric post of Glasgow may go to an outsider of Glasgow.

    January 26, 2022 at 4:33 pm
  • Margaret Mary

    I’m impressed with Fr Alan Maria’s sermon – it’s a gem.

    Editor, I would be interested to find out what you mean by saying (in the intro) that Church Militant dislikes or even hates the Latin Mass. I’m surprised at that.

    January 26, 2022 at 4:44 pm
    • editor

      MM,

      Here are two quotes from Michael Voris from his Twitter feed – although he is known for his animosity towards the SSPX, he is not fond of the FSSP either, as CM presumed the guilt of an FSSP priest accused of “porn” crime… Still, it seems the real reason for his animosity to these traditional groups is based on his obvious disdain for the TLM….

      Michael Voris, Twitter…

      1) “These SSPX cult members use filthy sexist and racist terms in attacking people – and then go to LATIN Mass on Sunday thinking they are superior and Holy. Please. Talk about a reason for Francis to blow up their idol of the Latin Mass. They are spiritually diseased. (July, 2021)

      2) It’d be very curious to see what SSPX followers would say if it was their family member sexually assaulted. Would they finally open their eyes – or remain bowing before their idol of the Latin Mass being offered by a Nazi Pedophile cult. (10 October 2020)

      Note: right under that second tweet, the well-known blogger, Father John Zuhlsdorf (Fr Z – 10 October 2020) replies:

      Way. Too. Far.

      You can see some of the above in the video posted in the introduction to one of our previous blog topics. See link below…
      https://catholictruthscotland.com/2021/11/16/church-militant-guilty-of-blackmail/

      Take note, that Voris uses the insult “their idol of the Latin Mass” at least twice, and a year apart (October 2020 and July 2021) so this entirely un-Catholic hatred of the Mass of the saints and martyrs is obviously deeply embedded in his soul. We should pray for him.

      January 26, 2022 at 6:55 pm
      • westminsterfly

        And yet Michael Voris employs far-right poster boy and textbook narcissist Milo Yiannopolous? Milo was ‘engaged’ to a man and I remember seeing this big drama queen video of his ‘conversion’ to Catholicism and how he dropped his £150,000 ‘engagement ring’ into the sea while knocking back a bottle of vodka with his earrings on etc, which was splurged all over the ‘gay’ and anti-Catholic media. Look at the CM website:- http://www.churchmilitant.com Scroll down and look at the right hand side – Resistance Boot Camp with Milo and Voris? That’s one gig I won’t be attending . . . also despite his ‘conversion’ – on the CM website Milo is still going for the matinee idol image, complete with trendy sunglasses and hairdo. Please, give us a break. Church Militant might get it right on occasions, by virtue of the massive amount of information they receive, but they are not to be trusted because of that, but then I’m sure CT readers won’t be shocked by this opinion. Having said that, I think that the ‘Carmelite Monastery’ mentioned above have some big questions to answer because of the Church Militant video and accompanying reports.

        January 26, 2022 at 7:25 pm
      • editor

        WF,

        Er… am I right in seeing Voris’ blonde hair as (more likely than not) out of a bottle? I almost typed “straight out of a bottle”, silly me…

        And yes, CM is to be congratulated on the phony Carmelite monastery investigation – and other similar success stories, but, generally speaking, there are, increasingly, more questions than answers about the organisation and the two leading lights, Voris & Niles, a pair of comics cast in the mould of Morecambe & Wise of very happy memory 😀

        January 26, 2022 at 7:43 pm
      • Margaret Mary

        Editor,

        Thank you for providing those quotes – I’m really taken aback, although I’ve probably read this before, since I try to visit all the threads. My memory is not the best these days.

        Any good which Church Militant does will not make up for his shocking attitude to the Mass. It will only speak to his ability as an excellent journalist and investigator and being vocal in speaking out, but the supernatural element is bound to be missing and that is the main thing, IMHO.

        January 26, 2022 at 11:22 pm
    • Faith of Our Fathers

      Am certainly no Lover ( pardon the pun of Milo ) but I do most certainly respect Him. Even when He was a Rampant Homosexual I still admired Him not for His Sexuality of course but for His Honesty.
      I now certainly believe that He is trying to be a Catholic in the real sense of the word.
      Ok Voris is certainly not my Hero but in an interview with Milo it is clear that Milo is sincere.
      And al leave judgement to His Clinic this Year and see what the real product is.

      January 26, 2022 at 11:34 pm
  • Faith of Our Fathers

    There are within C.Militant staff ones who attend the TLMASS .But Michael Voris Himself seems to think that we who do attend the Mass of Ages seem to think that the Clergy who say the Latin Mass are beyond reproach. He also at times gets a Dig into us that we are Holier than Thou which of course is true. Only Kidding Michael ,if by 1000 to 1 chance your reading this.
    And yes Mr Voris Himself actually reads other Blogs and comments. He has said so Himself.

    January 26, 2022 at 6:52 pm
    • editor

      FOOF,

      After watching this update video on the way Restoring the Faith is being persecuted by Church Militant for their attempts to defend Father James Jackson against possibly false allegations, I’m wondering if it’s Catholic Tradition itself and not just the TLM which Voris hates… Maybe his statements about disavowing his previous homosexual behaviour contain a clue. I must try to listen/view that again, one of these (less busy) days…

      I greatly admire the young man who runs RTF – he is head and shoulders above Michael Voris and Christine Niles in terms of personal integrity.

      January 26, 2022 at 7:36 pm
      • Fidelis

        I think that is something worth thinking about, that Michael Voris probably continues to struggle with the homosexual temptation and gets angry with himself, instead of seeking the grace of God. I don’t mean to imply that he is engaging in the gay lifestyle, I assume the opposite, but he doesn’t seem to be a soul at peace, so there has to be a reason. To hate Catholic Tradition and the TLM is a very worrying sign indeed.

        January 26, 2022 at 11:12 pm
  • Faith of Our Fathers

    I never knew Voris and Niles to this Priest until I heard your Video Ed .
    I will certainly try and comment to Voris and see what his threats to me will be.

    January 26, 2022 at 11:49 pm
    • editor

      FOOF,

      It will be interesting to see his reaction, assuming he sees the comments.

      I have some very interesting correspondence to post later from a gentleman in Australia who has unsubscribed from Church Militant after reading this blog.

      January 27, 2022 at 10:31 am
  • westminsterfly

    The answer to all these problems are laid bare in E Michael Jones’s booklet: The Man Behind the Curtain: Michael Voris and the Homosexual Vortex.

    January 27, 2022 at 10:42 am
    • editor

      WF,

      You’ve probably told us about that booklet before but it’s only now registering with me. I hope it is available to read online. And it must contain hard facts or Jones would have been sued!

      January 27, 2022 at 2:11 pm
      • westminsterfly

        It was on Amazon but it got ‘cancelled’ for some reason. I think it is available elsewhere – probably Jones’s site Culture Wars.

        January 27, 2022 at 3:19 pm
      • westminsterfly

        It’s on here as well but I don’t know this site or if it is reliable: https://kupdf.net/download/the-man-behind-the-curtain-michael-voris-and-the-homosexual-vortex-e-michael-jones_596a1276dc0d608e56a88e77_pdf

        January 27, 2022 at 3:26 pm
      • editor

        WF,

        I’ve read the first two chapters of Jones’ booklet and I am confirmed in my view that he, Jones, is one of the most confused Catholics ever to walk the face of the earth.

        I knew when I saw the headline indicating disapproval of criticising bishops that it was not going to be a terribly intelligent read, but I’d no idea just how utterly wrong someone could be who had such easy access to a printer.

        I will read the rest, in the hope that it gets better, but I’m never going to take anything Jones says too seriously, without irrefutable evidence. For example, when I read his claim about Christine Niles leaving her husband etc, in Chapter One, I copied and saved it… As I read on, however, I realised that I could not possibly use that quote without further verification or a warning to the reader that the author of the booklet, E. Michael Jones, is a man with a mind about as clear-thinking as Joe Biden.

        Will read the rest, and triple check every footnote asap.

        January 27, 2022 at 4:33 pm
      • westminsterfly

        I didn’t say, nor ever have said, that I agree with Jones’ every word in that booklet. What I do maintain is that some of Jones’ observations on Voris himself and the creepy Opus Dei connections to CM are very pertinent.

        January 27, 2022 at 6:46 pm
  • editor

    As mentioned in my response to FOOF at 10.31am, I have permission to publish the following email exchange, which begins with an email of concern from an Australian gentleman, Enrico, about this blog discussion,

    Enrico writes…

    Hello,

    I have subscribed to your website because of your content. I have unsubscribed as soon as you said that you don’t care much for Church Militant. This greatly alarms me as a Catholic given the corruption in the Vatican, and heresies that the obvious globalist and freemason Pope Francis, who is totally corrupt, and obviously working with his globalist friends to weaken the Catholic Church. Pope Francis will definitely burn in hell, along with Cupich and all the other heretics posing as Bishops, Priests, etc.

    I do not in any way expect you to reply to this email, however, I know for a fact that Church Militant has done more for the Catholic Church that you could do in 3 lifetimes. I do not think you are a bad person, just very misled. All I can say is God Bless to you and yours from Australia. Ends.

    My reply:

    Thank you, Enrico. And thank you for subscribing to our blog, even though you have now unsubscribed. Your temporary support is much appreciated!

    Just to clarify, I was once an ardent supporter of Church Militant. I attended the event when Michael Voris came to Scotland to speak to an audience at Carfin, in the Diocese of Motherwell. I do know that they have done very good work. I would never deny that. And you are right to highlight the very little good which we are achieving – if that. We are very small fry, only here at all because we are aware of our duty as Confirmed Catholics to defend and promote the Faith. So, I was always pleased to support much bigger fish – Church Militant – who are much more successful and drawing much more support than do our feeble efforts. However, there has been a change over time, and when they had decided that an accused FSSP priest was guilty without evidence, plus the shocking remarks made by Michael Voris about the Traditional Mass, I was confirmed in my view – formed at that same talk in Scotland, where Voris dismissed the crisis in the Church, saying there are always crises in the Church, don’t worry about it – that something has gone awry at CM.

    Here is the link to a recent blog on Church Militant in which I express my concerns (in the comments) about Voris’s, at times, rather distant relationship with the truth, to put it mildly.
    https://catholictruthscotland.com/2021/11/16/church-militant-guilty-of-blackmail/

    I hope you will appreciate that I am unable to enter extended correspondence about blog issues – you are welcome to sign up and express your concerns there, as we do not censor anything except personal rudeness and bad language. Thank you for writing – and God bless you for being open and honest in your assessment of us. Ends.

    Enrico replies…

    Thank you for replying so fast. Since your email I have immediately cancelled my paid subscription to Church Militant.

    It greatly pains my heart the direction in which our church is going, and now you have opened my eyes widely to the truth I had no idea of prior regarding Church Militant.

    I was baptised a Lutheran but converted to Catholicism when I was about 15 because I knew in my heart that Catholicism is the original and the truth. I am 55 now and due to various circumstances, have come back to the church after 38 years. I was horrified to witness communion in the hand, I actually cried for joy, when I saw a young couple (the only ones in the entire Church) receive communion on the tongue while kneeling. The homilies were great, but the reverence to our Lord was non-existent, this is of great concern to me.

    Even when I was young, I never once took communion in the hand, so it was a huge shock. I decided there must be another way, so I started researching the Latin Mass. Wow, it was amazing the very first time we entered the Traditional Rite, it was chalk and cheese, compared to The Ordinary Rite. I will always go to the FSSP Latin Mass.

    You gave me the truth. I always welcome the truth, and on this one I have got my spoon ready to eat humble pie and apologise if I was a little abrupt to you, it certainly was not meant to offend [Ed: your email was not at all offensive – I appreciated your honesty, expressed perfectly courteously. You didn’t say anything that is not true, either).

    I thought that because Church Militant has brought to light so many scandals affecting the Church, that they were infallible, due to their reporting, well obviously that is never the case. I do believe however, truth be told, that their recent article on corruption in the Vatican regarding the vaccine, was a very important piece of news.

    The covid vaccine is not from God and I am prepared to starve to death, rather than take (the mark) of an aborted fetus cell vaccine.

    The best I can do is try to live in a state of grace, which for me is increasingly difficult, because there are so many temptations, and so many discriminations here in Australia against the unvacced. This situation is truly criminal indeed!

    Sending you many prayers, and much love from Australia.
    God Bless you all in Scotland

    Catholic until death! Ends.

    My reply:

    Dear Enrico,

    What a beautiful email! Thank you SO much for your humble response to my message. With your permission, I would like to publish our correspondence on the blog. We have quite a lot of visitors from Australia and at least two fairly regular bloggers, so it may help a lot of people to read your story. I won’t publish anything without your permission, though, be assured.

    I LOVE conversion stories, always have done, as they always show God’s grace, His Divine Providence at work in souls, and that is very true of your story as well. God – obviously – has something special in mind for you, so who knows the good you will have done since your conversion at the astonishingly young age of 15. And the good you will continue to do, thanks to your fidelity to the traditional Faith and Mass.

    God bless you, Enrico – I hope you will give me that permission to publish but if not, I’ll understand that you will have your own reasons. I won’t think any less of you at all.

    Please pray for me. Ends.

    As I think most of you are aware, I am not short of critics so it is a pleasure to meet with a person of the calibre of Enrico who does does not simply lash out in personal remarks but makes a cogent criticism and then investigates to further explore his original concern, and returns to share his findings. Critics like Enrico, I welcome with open arms.

    God bless you, Enrico!

    January 27, 2022 at 2:03 pm
    • Lily

      Enrico is obviously a very genuine man – and how wonderful that he is a convert who obviously loves the faith!

      That correspondence is very edifying. I will need to read it again, it’s lovely.

      January 27, 2022 at 6:48 pm
  • Faith of Our Fathers

    What a great bit of correspondence thanks Enrico and Ed for these Posts.
    I actually believed that C.M would only post the TRUTH the whole Truth and nothing but THE TRUTH.
    But reading about your Dealings or Lack of Dealings on Voris Part also made me think Ed .
    Whether this Priest whom Voris has already had Hung out to Dry is Guilty or not Guilty is certainly not the Principle Here , of course the Principle Here is Justice and Truth. And on that Principle both Voris and Niles are Guilty as charged.
    As someone who goes onto C.M. Often I to was more than a little Bit put off by Voris ,let’s just say Vannity.
    It most certainly does not go along with a Manly Virtue.
    In saying that of course maybe am just jealous as having just gone through a Skin Cancer cut out from the Top of My Head I could certainly go a Voris Wig. Or whatever .🤕

    January 27, 2022 at 4:39 pm
  • Francis de sales aka DG

    I came across CM few years ago. I was initially impressed cos of their efforts to expose their abuses. Came from abused background which Ryan report in Ireland re school that I attended. The Catholic Church deals in minimising the level and depth of their abuses going back in decades. Obviously it [annoyed] me off but CM was like a God send one.

    But over the years CM have changed their tack and angle which left me disappointed. They aren’t attacking Catholic Church abuses now. But instead they are attacking priests now instead of focusing on the abuses itself and the effects of abuses as well. Also they are looking for our monies to prop them. At first it was free to watch the videos and the content as well.

    Now it’s subscription only in some areas as they are changing their business model. CM can be very vindictive and quite nasty up to a certain point. From there, I just stopped watching CM as I dropped it off re my list to watch or follow it.

    January 27, 2022 at 6:51 pm
    • editor

      Francis de Sales,

      I’ve just watched this interview with Michael Voris, where, from about halfway, 20.24 he is attacking the character of the young man, Mike, from Restoring the Faith (RTF) and if I hadn’t seen the “Blackmail” video published by RTF and read the tweets for myself, I would be thinking what the majority of viewers of this video below are probably thinking: that Mike is a thief and a liar, while Voris just needs to complete the canonisation process and we’ll all be able to pray for his intercession. The man is a scoundrel – a sarcastic scoundrel.

      He made just one important point, with which, if true, I find myself agreeing and it is this: Father Jackson has not, at any time since his arrest and charge, issued a statement asserting his innocence. Unless there is some legal reason to prevent such a statement, I would agree with Voris that it is surely the instinctive thing to do when faced with such horrendous charges. That apart, though, I’m afraid I think even less of Voris that I did previously and I didn’t think much of him then, believe me…

      For those of you who may wish to refresh your memories about Mike’s Church Militant video, here’s the link to our blog on that, video embedded…
      https://catholictruthscotland.com/2021/11/16/church-militant-guilty-of-blackmail/

      January 27, 2022 at 11:29 pm
  • James

    It is a shame to see our faith over run by other political dogmas, therefore deviating away from actual Church Law. The catechism, as well as Pope Francis exercising Papal Infallibility, is an example of how we should treat homosexuality… not necessarily religious ‘Karen’s’ on a glorified chat room. Sadly seeing recent issues on the subject here I recommend some reflect on their faith and where exactly these thoughts originate from, equally for anyone to agree with Milo who has outwardly lied to appease the far right is questionable at best in connection with a comment in relation to the Church and does give it a bad name. I welcome a reply if it is considerately put forward and welcomes healthy discussion, otherwise please refrain from some of the bullying I have seen from other Catholics in reply to any questions of their thought processes.

    March 9, 2022 at 10:04 am
    • Athanasius

      James

      Please be kind enough to provide us with examples of that teaching of Pope Francis on homosexuality which you claim are infallible. I assume you do know the rules underpinning Papal Infallibility and how very rarely this special Papal charism is actually employed? I’m not expecting you to provide me with the examples I request because I already know that they don’t exist and that you’re merely referring to personal statements of Pope Francis, the worst and most morally destructive Pope in the history of the Church.

      Never mind what Francis says, what have all his predecessors say? You will not find a single Pope, apart from this present incumbent of the Chair of St. Peter, saying anything favourable about homosexuality, the tendency or the practice. It is a tendency which is completely at variance with the Gospel and Commandments of God. The most you’ll get from the Popes prior to Francis is the praise of those who resist temptation to this sin, a sin the Church has always declared as one “crying to heaven for vengeance”. Those who are tempted and resist for love of God and goodness are truly blessed and will certainly be rewarded by God. But there’s a difference between those who resist and those who try to make a case for homosexual tendency, as though it were some kind of normal human weakness. It’s not!

      Now, how about you back up your statement with those papal infallibility declarations of Francis you cite. I’m happy to wait, though it’s going to be a long wait!

      March 9, 2022 at 1:30 pm
    • westminsterfly

      James
      Just a couple of points to clear up – I find it just a little bit too much of a coincidence that you come onto this blog, on an LGBT related thread, after yesterday’s different LGBT related thread on The John Fisher school was closed. This thread you have commented on was posted in January, so I suspect trawling through CT’s back catalogue was the only way you could get in on the act. Maybe you’ll have to be a bit quicker off the mark in future.
      You recommend the catechism to us, but you clearly haven’t read it, as you would see that its teachings and your viewpoints are diametrically opposed, which leads me to believe that you are not a sincere seeker after truth through genuine debate or study.
      You demand special treatment by saying things like “I welcome a reply if it is considerately put forward . . . otherwise please refrain from some of the bullying I have seen from other Catholics in reply to any questions of their thought processes” yet you don’t hesitate to insult us by calling us “religious ‘Karen’s’ on a glorified chat room” which is a tad hypocritical. I didn’t even know what a Karen was, but Wikipedia informs me it is a pejorative term. So it’s one rule for you, and another for the rest of us. Sounds familiar.

      March 9, 2022 at 3:13 pm
  • Athanasius

    Editor

    St. Peter Damian wrote in his time primarily about homosexual infiltration and abuses in the country in which he lived, it was not then a global problem. What we have today is worldwide infiltration of the Church by homosexuals, not to mention many other priests who trample sacred celibacy in other ways, hence it will take something of far greater impact than St. Peter Damian’s powerful writing to resolve this “filth in the Church”. It’s going to take a divine intervention in my estimation because the disease is too far spread.

    March 9, 2022 at 1:41 pm
  • Donal

    Homosexuality should never be accepted or endorsed within our faith. Not within our congregations schools (teachers) and certainly not within the Priesthood and seminarys.

    Editor: The rest of this comment has been deleted for breaking House Rules. We are happy to overlook spelling mistakes and weak sentence structure, but that’s the extent of our linguistic tolerance. Diversity in grammar and spelling, permitted. House Rules are non-negotiable. .

    March 10, 2022 at 1:10 pm

Comments are closed.


%d bloggers like this: