Will Scotland’s Bishops Oppose the Country’s Now Very Obvious Descent into Totalitarianism?

Will Scotland’s Bishops Oppose the Country’s Now Very Obvious Descent into Totalitarianism?

Editor writes…

From the pandemic get-go, the bishops of Scotland have been complicit in facilitating Nicola Stalin Sturgeon’s instinctive authoritarianism.  To their (literally) eternal shame they closed down the churches even before required by her Godless decree, and the diocesan parish churches continue to impose the nonsensical restrictions on what’s left of their dwindling congregations. Unsurprisingly, the members of said dwindling congregations are, for the most part, as faithless as their priests.  So consumed are they by the irrational fear which is a hallmark of this past two years, that they’re not going to object to the introduction of permanent dictatorship either… not when it’s “for their own good”. Gimme strength. 

So, no, the bishops won’t object to this predictable power grab by Nicola Stalin Sturgeon, who is clearly determined to remain in her role as the “Dear Leader” – Scotland’s equivalent to North Korea’s Kim Jong-un…  Indeed,  I think the bishops of Scotland (and the majority of the priests) are so far gone in their apostasy, that they will actually welcome permanent dictatorship. To quote Joe Biden:  norra joke.  Of course, that’s my opinion – feel free to share yours…

First, though, it might be useful to consider a couple of quotes from a well-known Russian dissident who spent 8 years in a Russian Labour Camp for his temerity in criticising his anything-but-dear leader, Joseph Stalin:

“Men have forgotten God; that’s why all this has happened.”  (Alexander Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago).

“What would things have been like [in Russia] if during periods of mass arrests people had not simply sat there, paling with terror at every bang on the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but understood they had nothing to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people?”
(Alexander Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago).

Solzhenitsyn makes the point that the poor people of Russia were overtaken by totalitarianism because they didn’t value their freedom enough.  Hopefully, given the fact that there are some activists arranging freedom marches in Scotland these days, we won’t get to the stage of mass arrests, but if we don’t do whatever we can to make plain the fact that we have no intention of singing “Long to rule over us” to Nicola Stalin Sturgeon, we can’t blame anyone but ourselves if this shocking power-grab is successful.

Remember, our freedoms come from God, not Government.  We have repeated this elementary truth many times on this blog, from the beginning.  So, let’s insist that our bishops, priests and other allegedly Catholic religious leaders make their (our) voices heard, loud, clear and with much urgency, in an effort to drive home to the politicians that we will not tolerate this power-grab on any level; not the political/personal level nor the religious level.  Our freedoms come from God, not Nicola Stalin Sturgeon.

And it should go without saying that we must all pray very hard at this very dangerous moment in our national history.

St Andrew, Patron of Scotland, pray for us

St Margaret, Queen of Scotland, pray for us

St Mungo, Patron Saint of Glasgow, pray for us

St John Ogilvie, Scotland’s only Reformation Martyr, pray for us

All the great saints of Scotland, pray for us…   

Comments (43)

  • Edward Mulrenan

    As with Chicago Illinois usa πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ. . Too many.homosexuals in the clergy in Glasgow’s dioceses etc. …..Bishops there are more interested, Bergoglio included in covering up for deviant sodomites clergy like Grassi, Cocopalmeiro and Zunchetta in Argentina. Plus Mccarrick , Hubbard ,Mahoney , brom and wheuerl in the usa.. Scotland and their Bishops as in Chicago are no exception… Lord have mercy πŸ₯Ί

    January 28, 2022 at 9:08 am
    • Nicky

      I think you make an important point – it is their complicity in protecting homosexuals in seminaries and post-ordination, that makes them blind to the truth about matters of faith and morals, not to mention the reality that some of them (maybe a lot of them) have fallen into this grave sin themselves.

      January 28, 2022 at 3:44 pm
    • editor


      I’m assuming that you are living in the USA, in which case allow me to introduce you to the blog Tradidi Quod et Accepi.
      Here is their most recent posting, on the topic of the American Spirit – the kind of courage shown by the men involved in their space program, which is at something of a higher level than the very ordinary type of courage which our bishops could have (but failed to) show throughout the pandemic…

      January 28, 2022 at 9:41 pm
  • Josephine

    It’s very obvious that the Scottish bishops are left wingers who totally support the SNP. Nicola Sturgeon was even invited to give a talk at an event celebrating Catholic schools on at least one occasion that I remember, so they are not going to rock the boat. Their rush to close the churches even before the March 20 lockdown began, and keeping the dispensation from the Sunday obligation, really says it all.

    I do believe that the immorality we have been hearing about, with half of Glasgow’s clergy being homosexuals, has resulted in a massive loss of faith and a blindness that prevents them from recognising the danger of atheistic totalitarianism of the kind Sturgeon is imposing. They are not going to help us win back our freedoms, IMHO.

    January 28, 2022 at 9:55 am
  • Nicky

    This is interesting – some fightback from an ex-SNP minister

    The Scottish bishops are never going to make themselves unpopular by criticising the SNP government, even if they disagree with a policy, which I don’t think would be the case here. They’ve fallen for the government propaganda from the start, believed what they wanted to believe, and I can’t see that changing now, to their shame.

    The only possible ray of hope would be if an outsider is appointed to the vacant see of Glasgow, who is a real Catholic. We can pray for that.

    January 28, 2022 at 10:12 am
    • Margaret Mary


      That is what I am hoping – an outsider (who is a traditionalist, or at least not hostile) is appointed to Glasgow. If they just shuffle the present mob around, it’ll be another case of moving the deckchairs on the Titanic, totally pointless.

      January 28, 2022 at 3:31 pm
  • editor

    I’ve just read this fantastic article and posted a comment underneath on the TCW blog. If that writer would take on the Church and the Scottish bishops, red faces would be the least of their worries.

    January 28, 2022 at 10:30 am
  • Lily

    The video commentator is very good – he sees through Sturgeon, absolutely.

    There is no way that the current bishops in Scotland are going to speak up for our “God given freedoms” – I’m sure they won’t believe that, they’ll think it’s for the SNP to decide on those, LOL! There’s nothing we can do about them, God will deal with them when the time comes for them to face him, but we can do our best to influence other voters, among our families and friends. We can also try to take part in the freedom marches around Scotland. I know that the ones so far have been a huge success.

    January 28, 2022 at 12:21 pm
    • Laura


      I agree about the video – it’s excellent.

      January 28, 2022 at 3:27 pm
      • Margaret Mary

        Mahyar Tousi’s videos are very good, the ones I’ve seen (a fair few) are always of high quality content and presentation. It’s great to see him highlight Sturgeon’s control freakery.

        January 28, 2022 at 3:34 pm
  • Faith of Our Fathers

    There’s no Chance of Scottish Bishops saying anything against Sturgeon in fact as it’s been commented on they Praise the We Bleep Bleep . As I NEVER now listen to the Rotten BBC and the Equally Rotten Sturgeon I have to ask a question.

    Has Sturgeon at ANYTIME during this Plandemic ever mentioned living a Healthy Lifestyle as in maybe not getting Fat . She herself of course was carrying an extra few pounds for a few years.
    I Know that my M.S.P. could be doing with losing a stone or 4 and we know that Obesity was an 87% Stat in those who died from The Chinese Disease.
    I don’t suppose Sturgeon has mentioned Vitamin D Vitamin C or Vitamin K2 or Zinc . High Street supplements that cost Pennies a Week.

    Now they may not stop us from catching The Chinese Fabricated Gain of Function Disease but taking them at least will keep our immune systems in better shape. And we on Here know that’s Key to not getting this Disease.

    I just walked by my Local Catholic Primary and standing outside were Teachers with Masks on.
    ED I thought Teachers were supposed to be intelligent.
    O just as a P.S. Our Priest mentioned about Hell being Paved by The Skulls of Bishops. I hope you know who doesn’t get to hear that.

    January 28, 2022 at 2:01 pm
    • Margaret Mary

      Faith of our Fathers,

      You are right, never a truer word, there is no chance of our bishops contradicting Sturgeon. It is quite scandalous that they have allowed their political preference to be known publicly which happened when their spokesman, Peter Kearney, announced that he was an SNP supporter. He had to know that this was OK with his bosses. It’s incredible to think they are supporting a party which now criminalises “hate speech” in people’s own homes and all the rest of their disgraceful policies on abortion and transgenderism. Some day, these bishops will have to answer for these terrible scandals, including their part in the whole Covid and Vaccine propaganda this past two years.

      January 28, 2022 at 3:38 pm
  • Laura

    I’m afraid I share the negative view of the Scottish bishops, expressed here today. They do seem to have believed the propaganda, possibly because they wanted to believe it. They didn’t rush to restore the obligation and it took legal action by Protestant ministers to challenge Nicola Sturgeon’s closure in the first place. They haven’t been setting the heather on fire this past two years and I don’t expect to see that change at all.

    January 28, 2022 at 3:26 pm
    • Faith of Our Fathers

      We at least on here ask are these Guys Really Catholics.
      Of course 99% of them are saying that they only follow Bergoglio and their being obedient. St Paul wasn’t obedient to St Peter when He resisted Him to His face for being wrong.
      Bergoglio isn’t just wrong He is Bad Vindictive and loves everyone except Faithful Catholics. Now if I can see Bergoglio is not a Catholic then surely the Bishops can see that Bergoglio isn’t a Catholic.

      As for Sturgeons Powers. We know that most probably the next Lockdown will be for The Global Warming Nutcases.
      Of course taking the way things are going right now. As far as Scotlands Energy Policies are concerned we may all land up in the real Doldrums.

      January 28, 2022 at 9:43 pm
      • editor


        The bishops who are Catholics can see that Francis isn’t Catholic. The rest are spiritually and morally blind.

        January 28, 2022 at 9:50 pm
  • Theresa Rose

    The Scottish Bishops will not and never have said anything against Nicola Sturgeon, they have her back so to speak.
    i agree with Lily that it took legal action by Protestant ministers to challenge Nicola Sturgeon’s closure in the first place. Shame on those Catholic Bishops, especially when they closed Churches prior to the first lockdown.

    Neil Oliver has had much to say over the past two years about what this totalitarianism in Scotland become. Mind you, totalitarianism has become a world wide phenomenon.

    January 28, 2022 at 3:59 pm
  • Marinaio

    Since this all started over two years ago, I have followed with interest the specific opinions regarding whether or not a bishop is permitted under canon law to deny the Mass and sacraments to his flock. I think one of the clearest explanations is given by Canon Licentiate Cathy Caridi on her website. She answers this question by discussing not just what a bishop is permitted to do (e.g., allowing legitimate dispensations) but also what he cannot do (denying the faithful the Mass and sacraments). I like the below linked posting, not just because I happen to agree with her on this matter, but because I believe she uses her experience to make the whole question crystal clear:
    She was also one of the first canonists to condemn bishops locking down the parishes in their dioceses. Notice the date of the article. I could be missing something, but I think she is spot on.

    January 28, 2022 at 4:02 pm
    • Fidelis


      That is a fantastic article – I wish I’d read it sooner, as it makes it very easy to rebut the claim that the bishops “had to” close churches and dispense with the obligation. I will use that information, so thank you for posting.

      January 28, 2022 at 6:45 pm
    • editor


      A very interesting article, indeed. It’s not a site I follow or visit often, since reading their arguments (some years ago) presenting the case that, according to Canon Law, the SSPX is schismatic. However, apart from the “Saint” John Paul II, your linked article seems safe and sound!

      January 28, 2022 at 9:44 pm
  • Michael Brady

    Dear friends
    l concur, many of the current Scottish incumbents within the clergy at all levels are sadly not able to rise to their Baptismal vocation.

    Like others l pray and hope that Divine Providence shall provide us with true shepherds who are unafraid of these secular wolves and their deeply atheistic etc insidious Godless agenda and endgame towards us and our society.

    Sadly, there has been a profound lack of leadership from the top down and for the Church to capitulate in the face of secular demands closed our Churches and abandoned the laity, doctrinally, morally and sacramentally is heinous to say the least.

    I pray and pray that the Lord will provide us with authentic shepherds who burn with fire and zeal for the faith and imbued with blood of the martyrs in their veins who will have the courage to challenge these diabolically disoriented times we currently live in

    Every blessing


    January 28, 2022 at 5:23 pm
    • Fidelis


      I “pray and pray” for the same intention, and have been saying the same prayer for years now, but I’m just about ready to give up hope.

      January 28, 2022 at 6:43 pm
  • Theresa Rose

    Dan Wootton on GBNews seems to think Nicola Sturgeon and SNP are power mad mode. I detest the idea of being permanently kept in my place by any and every means possible, whether I like it or not.

    January 28, 2022 at 6:13 pm
  • Fidelis

    The bishops of England and Wales are shamelessly sticking with their role as the tail being wagged by the dog, as they follow the government and remove all restrictions from churches – they’re even using the same mantra “we need to learn to live with the virus” LOL! I didn’t even know about the cotton buds before I read this – how shocking. Even worse than I originally thought, and that was bad enough.

    So, once Sturgeon follows Boris, which she always does in the end, the Scottish bishops will also end restrictions in our churches. Or maybe not, if they manage to keep the power to control us, micromanage our lives, even on Sundays!

    January 28, 2022 at 6:41 pm
  • Catherine

    I wonder if anyone heard BBC radio show at 1 pm today, (not sure what station) interviewing Welsh farmers about ‘cold callers’ encouraging farmers to sell their land to make room for trees as part of a climate change initiative. Someone was telling me this today, suggesting this a bid to destroy the farming industry e.g. the food chain under the guise of climate change as part of the government’s plans for the future. I did a search for it and found this link:


    Something to think about or be aware of in case there is something in it. You never know what is next – I have heard someone else talk about this before saying the government are trying to clear the countryside. I am interested to hear other views on the matter

    January 28, 2022 at 7:07 pm
    • Lily


      I’ve just come from watching this video interview with Bishop Schneider – I posted it below but will post it in this comment again because if Catholics would just listen to him (and all the saints who went before) and just trust in God, instead of paying attention to these sorts of reports, they would not pay any heed at all to the climate activists. The tree huggers are not worth bothering about. I urge you to watch this video and if you don’t feel more at peace at the end of it, I’ll be very surprised.

      January 28, 2022 at 7:38 pm
      • Josephine


        A wonderful interview – Bishop Schneider is a modern day prophet.

        January 29, 2022 at 11:45 am
    • editor


      Unless the bishops speak out about the danger of sinking fast into totalitarian rule, especially here in Scotland, then who knows what may lie ahead, although I’m afraid I pay absolutely NO attention to anything reported by the BBC. It’s at least two years since I watched even a short news bulletin from the BEEB – that’s how much (or little) I trust them. So, point # 1, as per the topic of this thread, we should all pray hard for a change of heart and an increase of Faith in our bishops, because, supernaturally, they should be able to fend off any evil which the Devil may be planning… It’s because top churchmen (and other weak Catholics) do not apply the Faith day and daily, that we are seeing this fear all around us. If we’re not being terrified of the virus, we’re being terrified at the possibility of food shortages.

      To your request for views about the BBC report – (1) it’s a simple fact that business men are always looking to buy up land and (2) the climate activists are on a mission to plant trees etc. Nothing new there. Whoever you were speaking to, has chosen to interpret these facts in a particular way, which may or may not be true. Whether true or not, there is absolutely nothing to be gained by worrying.

      As Catholics, we must take Our Lord at His word when he speaks about exercising our Faith in practical matters. He tells us we cannot keep a foot in both the “worldly” and the “spiritual” camps…

      No man can serve two masters. For either he will hate the one, and love the other: or he will sustain the one, and despise the other. You cannot serve God and mammon. [i.e. riches, worldly interests] Therefore I say to you, be not solicitous for your life, what you shall eat, nor for your body, what you shall put on. Is not the life more than the meat: and the body more than the raiment? [garments, clothes].

      Behold the birds of the air, for they neither sow, nor do they reap, nor gather into barns: and your heavenly Father feedeth them. Are not you of much more value than they? And which of you by taking thought [i.e.. worrying], can add to his stature by one cubit? [a few inches] And for raiment why are you solicitous? Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow: they labour not, neither do they spin. But I say to you, that not even Solomon in all his glory was arrayed as one of these. And if the grass of the field, which is today, and tomorrow is cast into the oven, God doth so clothe: how much more you, O ye of little faith?

      Be not solicitous therefore, saying, What shall we eat: or what shall we drink, or wherewith shall we be clothed? For after all these things do the heathens seek. For your Father knoweth that you have need of all these things. Seek ye therefore first the kingdom of God, and his justice, and all these things shall be added unto you. Be not therefore solicitous for tomorrow; for the morrow will be solicitous for itself. Sufficient for the day is the evil thereof.

      That is, don’t worry about tomorrow – God, in His Divine Providence – will take care of us.

      Obviously, we should take sensible measures to cater for our needs, but you seem to have been concerned enough by your conversation with someone today, to do a search for the information. I used to get quite a lot of people sending me these kinds of reports, always implying some shock horror plot or danger ahead. I have managed to politely ask for them to stop – it’s nearly impossible to live out the above Gospel exhortation if we allow people to raise our fears about the food supply chain etc.

      I watched the video which Lily links below and near the end, Bishop Schneider points out that Pope Francis is not in charge of the Church – Christ is. I think we need to apply that same spiritual thinking to the situation in which we now find ourselves in the world. The climate brigade, Fauci, Sir Chris Whitty, Bill Gates etc. THINK they are in charge of the world, but they’re not. God, in His Divine Providence, will see them all off, if we “of little faith” can only get into the habit of truly believing that, and not just paying lip service to it. That is we don’t just say we believe it, we actually put that belief into practice and stop worrying about things which are, in any case, outside our control. As far as the food supply is concerned, the UK imports lots of food, so I don’t think we’ll starve, whatever lies ahead, thanks be to God.

      To finish by returning to the topic – let’s all resolve to pray harder for the Scottish Bishops. Unless they have a real injection of divine and Catholic Faith, it’s not just the food supply chain we’ll have to think about – we’ll be struggling to find the spiritual food, on every level, that we need to nourish our souls.

      January 28, 2022 at 9:37 pm
  • Lily

    This is a incredible interview with Bishop Athanasius Schneider. If only we could get him for Glasgow! He talks about a whole load of issues, vaccine mandates, Latin Mass, Vatican II, Pope Francis, and gives advice to ordinary Catholics, wondering how to deal with the crisis, which includes him saying that the Church is not in the hands of Pope Francis, the Church is in the hands of Christ. He is a truly saintly bishop. This interview is under an hour long and is well worth watching.

    January 28, 2022 at 7:33 pm
    • editor

      Thanks Lily, that really IS an incredible interview – Bishop Schneider for Glasgow, you say? While that would be great, I’d sacrifice Glasgow to have him elected pope!

      January 28, 2022 at 8:56 pm
  • Michael Brady

    Amen πŸ™

    January 28, 2022 at 9:42 pm
  • Michael Brady

    Bishop Schneider for Pope Amen to that what a beautiful thought πŸ™

    January 28, 2022 at 9:48 pm
    • editor

      Agreed, Michael. Big time.

      January 28, 2022 at 9:49 pm
  • Francis de sales aka DG

    N sturgeon is quite power hungry and addicted to that very power. She craves for that hand that bites and feed her. Seeing a video recently of her in Scottish Parliament which screams out to me, me me as if she was smouldering and tasting her power. There was someone who blocked her at the start was Alex salmon. Her plan was to remove him and insert herself in his place. There was no one who can oppose her apart from Alex. When he fell by the wayside, it paves a clear out, which was a lot easier for sturgeon to control it and also manage, retain her power intact. You as Scottish voters would need someone who can challenge her to the extreme which she might eventually crack.

    January 28, 2022 at 11:36 pm
    • Josephine

      Francis de sales,

      I think you are right about the only way to get rid of Sturgeon is to find a replacement but there doesn’t seem to be anyone waiting in the wings. She is like a cult figure with fanatic followers. I can’t see her being replaced in the near future.

      January 29, 2022 at 11:44 am
  • Francis de sales aka DG

    As we know some Scottish bishops were compromised as far as I know. Was told that there were 3 sexually active bishops out of 8 Bishops in all of Scotland. If that’s the truth as I’m an outsider, not familiar with Catholic Scotland except for Daisy chain priests, deacon quite active homosexual. Half of Glasgow priests are homosexual as commented by a poster here, if that’s true, then it’s hugely devastating from my perspective. Bishops who couldn’t oppose her (sturgeon) Cos either they were compromised or had millions of money in bank which they didn’t bother. Whereas in Ireland, when bishops closed all churches for many months which was very trying times for all of us in Ireland. But what they didn’t realise it was their source of money via church collections completely dried up almost. They were left with almost nothing but using their reserves to keep them going. But it wasn’t good enough. So bishops started to fight back to get their churches reopened in order to get their cash from church going laity. When it was reopened, some people didn’t bother coming back cos they were content with online masses. Thus money via them were lost. They had to devise some plans such as online payment or contactless card machine inside the church re candles et al. Bishops here weren’t compromised except for money that they need to keep it going had dried up. Hence their fightback. However, they didn’t care about the spiritual welfare of laity when they closed it all down in every dioceses in Ireland, which was very telling.

    January 28, 2022 at 11:56 pm
    • Josephine

      Francis de sales,

      Nobody should be paying money in the parishes now, that is a given IMHO.

      January 29, 2022 at 11:45 am
  • Theresa Rose

    From Remnant TV the news that convoys of trucks in Canada have taken to the roads in protest against the likes of mandating “vaccines”, loss of freedoms, the Global Reset idea. Justin Trudeau must be a mighty unhappy little man right now. How will his insulting tyranny towards Canadians continue.


    January 29, 2022 at 4:51 pm
    • editor

      Theresa Rose,

      I started to watch the video embedded in the link you posted from The Remnant Newspaper blog, but stopped to post the following comment on The Remnant blog:

      It’s obviously pointless posting anything here since Michael repeats the error he made last week when he repeats the fake news that Boris had removed all restrictions “in the UK” – no he hasn’t. Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland remain in restrictions, with Scotland set to pass a law to permanently KEEP many restrictions, including mask wearing. Boris lifted restrictions in ENGLAND – nowhere else in the UK. I know it makes “the narrative” sound better, but truth is important… kinda…

      I’ll go back now and watch the rest but I’m not impressed with the way Michael Matt dispenses with facts when it suits him. We’ve seen it in relation to the unapproved Akita “apparition” for example – I just cannot imagine how he thinks being economical with the truth can ever be justified. Unless, of course, he doesn’t read the comments on his own blog. Still you would think that, assuming he read the same news reports as the rest of us, he’d have noticed that Boris only ended restrictions in England. Or does he dwell in the Land of Wishful Thinking? Who knows…

      5 minutes later… on my return to The Remnant site to watch the rest of the video, I note that my comment has already been removed! Unbelievable. A number of us have commented over time on the way The Remnant avoids all mention of Scotland, apparently dismissing us as very small fry (which we are, of course) so perhaps it’s time to “out” that fact in a newsletter article. Let me think about that…

      January 29, 2022 at 6:27 pm
      • Laura

        I have already watched a Taylor Marshall video today and switched off half way through this latest “traditional” Catholic video – sorry if this sounds racist but these Americans talk far too much. They love the sound of their own voices. So repetitive, and I find Michael Matt’s constant virtue signalling about how little he cares about what these leaders think or believe, as long as they lift the restrictions. I get that, but does he need to keep saying it over and over? So far, 17 minutes into it, he’s hardly mentioned the truckers!

        January 29, 2022 at 7:08 pm
      • Laura

        I also notice he has a statue of La Salette on his desk. I would have expected Our Lady of Fatima, since she prophesied all this.

        January 29, 2022 at 7:10 pm
  • Margaret Mary

    I got fed up with the Remnant rambling as well and went onto GB News to watch Neil Oliver who did a much better job of explaining the protest. He interviewed two people, one trucker and one journalist and showed a clip of Trudeau calling the protest a “fringe” group. When that comes onto YouTube as a segment on its own, I’ll try to remember to post it. I’m posting this short video to give everyone a flavour of the crowds, although I’m sure there will be better ones, I just don’t have time to watch any more TV LOL!

    January 29, 2022 at 7:47 pm
    • Margaret Mary

      I tried to find that segment of Neil Oliver interviewing a Canadian journalist and trucker but it’s not on YouTube yet. I found this, which is his monologue at the start of his show, so I think the rest of it follows on from this. I’m posting it because I think it’s beautiful. A question, though because I don’t know anyone from Stirling. Neil keeps saying “urth” instead of “earth” (as pronouncing the E in egg) so does anyone know if this is a “Stirling” expression or just Neil’s? It’s not important, I’m just curious because I’ve noticed him saying that before.

      January 29, 2022 at 9:19 pm

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