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Comments (69)
I am praying that Pope Francis wakens up and realises that he must consecrate Russia as required at Fatima. I’m being optimistic and hoping that this will not end up in a full-blown European or World War, but the world is so unstable right now, that it’s quite possible.
I read the Enslavement article and it is chilling to think what may lie ahead. I’m praying for the Consecration today – otherwise, who knows what lies ahead.
Fidelis,
I can’t see Pope Francis consecrating Russia – he is spiritually blind, IMHO. He looks at everything happening in the world through humanist eyes. He’s more likely to send food aid to Ukraine than to consecrate Russia, IMHO.
Michaela,
That’s why I think something tragic is going to have to happen – the annihilation of a nation or two – before the scales falls from Pope Francis’s (or his successor’s) eyes and they will eventually act, as Our Lord said they would at Rianjo in 1931: “Like the King of France they will repent of it, and they will do it, but it will be late”.
I fear we are seeing the last part of the Fatima prophecies starting to begin now – the only prophecy that hasn’t been fulfilled yet is the annihilation of nations. The formal request to consecrate Russia was made in 1929 at Tuy. Later Sr. Lucia asked Our Lord why He would not convert Russia without the solemn public consecration of that nation specifically. Jesus answered: “Because I want My whole Church to acknowledge that consecration as a triumph of the Immaculate Heart of Mary, so that it may extend its homage later on, and put the devotion to the Immaculate Heart beside the devotion to My Sacred Heart.”
Our Lord was clearly connecting the 100-year refusal to perform the Sacred Heart consecration in France to the events of Fatima, when he appeared to Sister Lucia in Rianjo in 1931: https://fatima.org/news-views/the-revelation-at-rianjo-a-fatima-anniversary-august-1931 so it would appear there isn’t long left. The 100 years of the refusal to consecrate Russia is up in 2029 – seven years away – but Our Lady said it would be done. Although I think a great portion of the world is going to have to suffer before it is done.
Westminster Fly,
I agree that we are seeing the last part of the Fatima prophecies starting now. It’s very serious. I remember people coming on here and saying they thought that Putin was a good Christian now! Some hope! God doesn’t make mistakes. If he has chosen Russia as his instrument of chastisement for a disbelieving world, there was good reason for that. This video is of the EU leaders denouncing Russia and speaking of the seriousness to world peace of this attack on Ukraine. It is very sobering.
Westminster Fly,
It is chilling to think that 2029 is round the corner, and that, since Our Lady said the consecration would be late, that means something major is likely to happen between now and 2029 to force the pope, whoever his is, to do the consecration. God help us all.
Perhaps now people would like to contact the World Apostolate of Fatima and show them the INCALCULABLE damage they have done to the Fatima message and world peace, being more interested in having the ‘approval’ of dissident bishops, and hob-nobbing with the hierarchy, rather than telling the truth. The UK WAF website is here:- https://worldfatima-englandwales.org.uk It would be interesting to get their take on the supposedly ‘consecrated’ Russia’s invasion of the Ukraine.
WF,
That’s a great idea. I have just emailed using their contact form but I had to make two attempts before it went through. Here is the text of my message…
I’m interested to know what you think of the declaration of war by Russia, now conducting a full-scale invasion of Ukraine, even as I write this. Do you seriously continue to believe that Russia has been consecrated as set out by Our Lady in the Fatima apparitions? Really? If so, I can get you a beautiful bridge over the River Forth in Scotland, at a huge discount.
I hope that, in the interests of honesty and integrity, you will publicly admit your error in this matter and seek prayers for the urgent consecration of Russia, described by Our Lady as God’s chosen instrument for the chastisement of the world.
Those, like your organisation, who are misleading people about this, will face a very serious judgement when your time comes, unless you warn people of the need to pray for a pope who will obey God’s will by consecrating Russia to Our Lady’s Immaculate Heart, as a matter of the utmost urgency.
Let’s hope a good few people contact them although since they are approved by the dioceses, it’s doubtful whether they will take up the challenge to go for honesty and integrity over acceptance by the powers-that-be…
I remember years ago, when I suggested a public debate between WAF and people connected to the Fatima Centre – which I would have been quite prepared to organise – WAF declined on the grounds that such a meeting would ‘generate more heat than light’.
Westminster Fly,
“generate more heat than light” is a way of getting out of a discussion or explanation by inferring that people will get angry – so what? I feel angry all the time that successive popes haven’t consecrated Russia and brought about world peace. That doesn’t mean we don’t need to discuss it and pray about it.
I have received a reply from the World Apostolate of Fatima (WAF). Below, this exchanged this morning…
EMAIL FROM WAF…
Dear Patricia
WAF does believe that the consecration has been done by Pope John Paul II, but that what is wanting is a sufficient response to Our Lady’s requests re in particular the Five First Saturdays, but also regarding the Rosary and a general renewal of Catholic life.
I hope this helps.
Kind regards
Oonagh Pittam
MY REPLY TO WAF…
Thank you for your reply. It’s utterly unbelievable that anyone would think the Consecration of Russia has been done – the world is FAR from a “period of peace”, in fact, facing all out European war, with Russia and Ukraine already at war. Truly, there is something seriously amiss with your assessment, not least because Pope John Paul II made it clear that Russia was NOT consecrated. But we’ll leave it there.
Patricia
I should have added that Our Lady did not make the request for the Consecration or the promised period of peace conditional on the response of the laity to her requests for the rosary and the First Five Saturdays. This is an “condition” added by those who do not want to lay the blame where it belongs, at the feet of the popes and bishops, especially the popes.
In response to Oonagh Pittam – Book 2 of Frere Michels trilogy states this: https://fatima.machado-family.com
“THE MOST PRECISE REQUEST. Let us point out right away that in 1930, in two letters to Father Gonçalves, Sister Lucy was to express in a slightly different manner the requests of Heaven, closely associating the devotion of reparation on the five first Saturdays of the month with the consecration of Russia:
«The good Lord promises to end the persecution in Russia, if the Holy Father will himself make a solemn act of reparation and consecration of Russia to the Sacred Hearts of Jesus and Mary, as well as ordering all the bishops of the Catholic world to do the same. The Holy Father must then promise that upon the ending of this persecution he will approve and recommend the practice of the reparatory devotion already described.»624
Footnote 624
(624) Letter received by Father Gonçalves on May 29, 1930 (Doc., p. 405). The letter of next June 12, addressed to the same person, literally employs the same formula (Doc., p. 411), which indissociably unites the Holy Hearts of Jesus and Mary.”
So this shows without a doubt, that to end the persecution, the consecration must be done, and then upon the end of the persecution – i.e. after the consecration – the Pope must approve and recommend the practice of the reparatory devotion (First Five Saturdays). As usual, WAF have misled everyone and turned the situation on its head. They really are unwitting agents of the devil. What the communists used to call ‘useful idiots’.
The US and it’s permanent lapdog, the UK, the bag of weasels that is the EU, and an outdated NATO, have formed a lynch mob to poke the bear. Like a gang of playground bullies they have taunted, pushed and threatened Russia. Russia has had enough.
Ukraine has been used as a catspaw by the USA via the CIA and various corrupt carpetbaggers (looking at you, Biden).
Instead of treating Russia, arisen as a phoenix from the Soviet Union, as a potential friend, trading partner and cultural associate, we, prompted by a raft of vicious loonies, did the opposite. Outside of Poland, Hungary and Russia you’d be hard pushed to find a Christian country in Europe. Christ said, “those who are not against us are with us”. (Mark 9:40)
Antoine,
What is your position on the Consecration of Russia?
I’m all for it, as soon as may be. Realistically, if the Pope were to arrange it within the week, it is unlikely that Russia would convert to Catholicism overnight. There would not be enough priests and Bishops. A 7 year time scale might work, allowing for seminaries, training, ordinations.
however, the Russian Orthodox Church needs to be considered. Would they decide to heal the rift with Rome? That would help considerably. Will that be the mechanism for the conversion of Russia?
Antoine Bisset,
With all due respect, I am stunned at your posts, especially this latest one. Down below, RCA Victor has written as follows, about Don Bosco’s dream:
” Don Bosco saw Russian forces sweeping across Europe under a black flag against ineffective resistance (pitiful NATO?). However, the black flag turned into a white flag as the Russians neared the end of their conquest. If I remember correctly, the change in flag color indicated that the Consecration had finally been done.
I don’t imagine the Russian forces were marching for years across Europe.
Our Lady was always precise in what she said. She told the children to come on a certain day and at a certain time because she would be there to show a miracle to those who wanted proof that she was really appearing there. The children did what she had asked and we know the rest.
That’s what needs to happen now and Russia will certainly be converted “overnight”, as you put it. That seems to be what Don Bosco’s dream suggests as well. A swift conversion once the consecration has been done. It’s not up to us to worry about the details – God will take care of that.
Last but not least – no, God won’t use the Russian Orthodox or any other schismatic church. They will convert as well, presumably. Schismatic means they have split from the true Church and that displeases God, so why would he use them to convert anyone to Catholicism? That doesn’t make sense, IMHO.
Antoine Bisset,
I found your comment unbelievable. You show absolutely no awareness of the Fatima warnings about Russia. You actually think that Russia is a “Christian” country, whatever that means. It’s certainly not converted to Catholicism, which is what Our Lady promised would happen after it’s consecration to her Immaculate Heart.
I notice you’ve not answered editor’s question about your position on the consecration and I think you will ignore this as well. You’re what is known as a hit and run blogger – plenty of hot air, no real facts or answers.
Sorry if this is rude and I’ll understand if it’s deleted by editor, but I find such nonsense intolerable when it is as obvious as the noses on our faces that what we are witnessing today is the beginning of the warned of chastisement of the world.
BTW, it is not true to say that Russia has been “poked” into this aggressive action. For a while, I was thinking that was what was going on but in one report this morning it was shown that Russia has been planning this for a long time BEFORE the west began reporting it.
As for Russia “rising as a phoenix from the Soviet Union” – more nonsense. Putin and his henchmen in government remain former KGB officers – totalitarianism remains in Russia, as anyone who knows the dangers faced by real journalists will tell you.
Lily,
Too true – Russia not the democracy its painted to be, it is actually a dictatorship and this article finishes by saying it’s on its way to being a totalitarian dictatorship. All power lies in the hands of Putin, even when he had to step down for a bit – this article is well worth reading, especially if you think Putin is the good guy. He’s a ruthless dictator who assassinates opponents.
https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/what-type-of-government-does-russia-have.html
Obviously, I do not agree. NATO has expanded East to the borders of Russia, something NATO said that they would not do. Unlike the UK Russia has looked after its own. They are ready to defend
Russia and Russians. As for reporting anything, the MSM and the BBC are not to be trusted, more intent on promoting social media nonsense and promoting LBVGTI stuff.
You seem to dismiss the Russian Orthodox Church as being non-Christian. Non-Catholic certainly, but not Christian?
Antoine Bisset,
The Russian Orthodox Church is schismatic
https://greekreporter.com/2021/12/14/russia-orthodox-church-catholic-church/
Don’t you believe that God does not make mistakes? He didn’t found the Catholic Church only to say anyone who wants to start their own church can do so, LOL! If you believe that Jesus founded the one, true Church and that Church is today called the Catholic Church then, yes, the Russian Orthodox Church and all other schismatic sects are not Christian. They cannot be!
Our Lady expressly said that Russia would be converted once consecrated to her Immaculate Heart. Do you seriously think she meant it would be converted to any of the groups calling themselves Christian who wouldn’t have any devotion to her Immaculate Heart? Are you being serious?
If you do think that, then your next problem is to explain what happened to her promise that the conversion of Russia would be followed by a period of world peace?
Are you aware that Putin is a gangster who has had journalists and other critics murdered?
Antoine
I understand perfectly where you’re coming from and I completely agree, up to a point. There is no question that the US, UK and EU have conspired to demonise and isolate Russia using Ukraine to really rub it in to Putin. If you recall, Ukraine democratically voted in a President who was pro-Russian (like most of the Ukrainans) and the response of the aforementioned Western powers was to start a revolution in the country and have him overthrown. They definitely want this war with Russia, no question about it.
On the otherhand, Putin is a ruthless little KGB man, the hidden hand behind China. He’s no Christian, never was, he’s a Communist with ambitions to control the planet together with President Xi. Our Lady did not mislead us in the matter of Russia, it’s still very much a godless nation whose leader (Putin) continues to ensure that Catholicism remains under a tight leash. They’re all rotten to the core, including the Western leaders, cultural Marxists by any other name. These Western leaders have been seduced already by the principle error of Russia (its aggresive atheism), and now they act as a godless force against another godless force. Ultimately there’s is not a single Christian among them. And as for the Church hierarchy, it’s more Communist now than Putin and Xi, so no chance of Our Lady’s request being granted by them. I think direct chastisement from heaven is all that will work now to bring them to their knees.
Athanasius you Sum it up perfectly.
NATO or the West had NEVER any inclination to Invade Russia . Yes their are plenty of fault on both sides but this certainly doesn’t include Adolf Putin Murdering Millions of Ukrainians if need be.
Also we know Putin is a Bully but I personally didn’t think He was this Evil . Even going by His KGB History. He is also a coward for their is no way He would have committed these Crimes against Humanity were President Trump still in power.
We on Here know that the World is Rotten from the New Babylon down to the Catholic Clergymen who push the Evils of Homosexuality.
The only consolation as far as being Human is concerned is that we only Die once. Putin obviously like Stalin ( who had his own Son Executed ) has no thought for His own family. For had He love more for His Family than Himself , He would never have started this War where at the End of The Day no one can Win. Also as you point out the Man is Godless which I at least thought He did believe in a Deity.
Obviously I was wrong.
BTW I hope to God your Treatment is Successful.
God Bless. J.D.
Athanasius. This is how I understand things. .Many thanks and still praying for your complete recovery!
I’m afraid this attack on the Ukraine is the beginning of Don Bosco’s dream, or the preparation for it, in which he saw Russian forces sweeping across Europe under a black flag against ineffective resistance (pitiful NATO?). However, the black flag turned into a white flag as the Russians neared the end of their conquest. If I remember correctly, the change in flag color indicated that the Consecration had finally been done.
I found this article helpful on the background of the current conflict: https://www.theburningplatform.com/2022/02/24/timeline-euromaidan-the-original-ukraine-crisis/#more-261212
I recommend starting at the year 2008 if you’re short on time. That’s when the elected leader of the Ukraine defied the West’s (CIA) plot to get the Ukraine into NATO, resulting in a CIA-engineered “color revolution.”
(A color revolution, I should have added, that removed pro-Russia Yanukovych and replaced him with a pro-Western stooge.)
RCA Victor,
I don’t think I knew about that dream of Don Bosco – that’s really something. Given what’s happening in Ukraine, that suggests that dream will come true sooner rather than later.
Here’s Boris Johnson shooting off his mouth – also Keir Starmer. Neither murmured a peep when Justin Trudeau invoked his emergency act against peaceful protesters and froze their bank accounts. Hypocrites, the lot of them.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/uk-politics-live-boris-johnson-promises-massive-package-of-sanctions-after-russian-invasion-of-ukraine/ar-AAUeLPE?ocid=msedgntp
I saw a video on Gloria.tv earlier today that there has been a 24hour cyber attack on Ukraine’s government buildings to disrupt any information about when Russia’s attack would take place and where. But, for the life of me I cannot find that article now.
https://gloria.tv/post/R2YGKKcXBmKp2Lz8kenszjMTZ
The above link shows part of the attack upon Ukraine. Heaven knows what damage will be done, and how many lives could be lost.
https://gloria.tv/post/gtEMSYwVwmDc4eDwTT4d3VEMA
Carmelites nuns of Kharkov and Kiev, in the face of war have decided to remain in their monasteries. They will certainly need our prayers for who knows what will happen to them, if caught in the crossfire so to speak.
I seriously doubt that Pope Francis will Consecrate Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary, nor will he order his Bishops to join in doing so.
Putin’s warning to the West in his early morning broadcast, shows he is no cuddly poodle. He really is a gangster.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/putin-s-gives-chilling-warning-to-the-west-in-early-morning-broadcast/ar-AAUesnB?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531
Bernie,
I have heard some defence of Putin today, in the sense that he fears NATO expansionism and not without some cause.
Whatever the politics of it, the fact is, as others have said Our Lady and God don’t make mistakes. We have been warned that Russia will be the instrument God will use to chastise the world, unless we repent. There’s no sign of a repenting world, just a world going deeper and deeper into the mire, so given Putin’s veiled threat of nuclear war this morning, I think we are living in very dangerous and dark times. We do need to pray for the Russian consecration, very urgently.
Make no mistake Putin will not stop at Ukraine He is a Modern Day Hitler who has the Chinese backing. Of course the Chinese will now move on Taiwan.
Nothing like this would have happened had President Trump still been in power. Also there is noway that the Russian Man or Woman wants War as no one can win Here.
As for Putins threat to the West I know this sounds Bold but we should retaliate First. If anything am a realist and this can only end up in Nuclear War.
So let’s make that 11th Hour Confession put our trust in God and Retaliate First. There was a Video yesterday where Putin was questioning His Spy Chief . You could see that the Man was terrified of Him.
Putin obviously like Stalin does not care for His Children or Grandchildren if He did He would never have carried this out.
He has proven Here He is a Meglomaniac . As I say we should retaliate First because Putin will go for Poland if thers not a Nuclear War before then. Either way there will be.
Ad Love to be wrong so if anyone thinks I am then let me know.
Fr Malachy Martin was interviewed and spoke of Pope John XXIII, Pope Paul VI and Pope John Paul II in particular about the Consecration of Russia. Strangely enough he mentions Kiev, that Russia is attacking at present. These Popes have not and would not Consecrate Russia. Consider that Pope John XXIII was elected in 1958 in the aftermath of the death of Pope Pius XII. I understand that Sister Lucia had said that the Consecration should be done no later than 1960. In the interview Malachy Martin mentions Kiev by name, I find that interesting considering what we are witnessing now.
https://gloria.tv/post/tif1gEvDiBrj4FQ7L9GyhULHu
The sad fact is that we are still waiting on that Consecration since Our Lady appeared to Sister Lucia in 1929 and said that the time had come for that Consecration to take place. Just how late will it take place.
Theresa Rose,
That is really interesting about Fr Malachy Martin and the mention of Kiev, Ukraine. WOW!
Theresa Rose,
I second Editor’s WOW! and raise it a couple of Holy Mackerel’s!
Seriously though, it struck me how outspoken and blunt Father was about the Popes and hierarchy that he spoke of – much more so than his typical Art Bell radio interviews. Also fascinating was his insistence that the connection to Kiev was specifically a connection to JPII. I wonder what that was?
RCA Victor,
I don’t know much about Malachy Martin but that is truly astonishing stuff at that link. I’m also, like you, curious about the Kiev connection to John Paul II. Personally, I haven’t a clue.
At the end of this first day of the invasion of Ukraine, we might all remember to pray very specially for an end to the misery this war is already causing. Most of all, we should pray for the Consecration of Russia, so that we may achieve and enjoy the promised period of world peace.
For those who may be visiting and reading this thread but who are not fully aware of the Fatima Message and its relation to today’s news, I am posting, below, the best video on the Fatima apparitions – in my view – because, as well as detailing the events succinctly and clearly, this one acknowledges the failure of the modern popes to obey Our Lady’s request for said Consecration. Too many Fatima articles and videos fail to include this key information, choosing, instead, to focus on that part of the Message about self-sacrifice, Brown Scapular etc. In other words, they don’t want to annoy the Pope and bishops! Here, we have so such concerns: Our Lady of Fatima, pray for us! Immaculate Heart of Mary, pray for us!
Laura,
No reply function available to your last post, so……I decided to search for “John Paul II visits Kiev.” What came up was not a visit to Kiev specifically, but he did visit the Ukraine, starting with Kiev, in 2001 to reach out to the Orthodox there. His overtures were rejected, it seems:
https://www.wired.com/2001/06/the-pope-visits-ukraine/
RCA Victor,
I read that article with much interest. It is incredible that any pope would put himself in that humiliating position, even denying Christ’s command to preach the faith by saying, quoting the article, ” John Paul said “I have not come here with the intention of proselytizing.”
He comes across as a pathetic little person, begging the bully for mercy. I was never much of a fan of JPII but now I have nothing but contempt for him. His fast-track canonisation is one of the many that will be overturned in the future, no doubt about it.
Josephine,
The humiliation of the Church is quite high on the Freemason’s to-do list, and JPII was either firmly in their camp (apologizing for the “sins” of the Church), or had one foot in it, or was completely neutered because he was surrounded by them. He really did cut a rather pathetic figure.
Proselytizing (another item high on that to-do list) is definitely a toxic concept to the enemies of the Church, and it has been replaced by “dialogue” (which leads directly to another type of humiliation – compromise – humiliation, that is, for those who are supposed to be teaching Truth).
Laughably, not only does Pope Francis NOT decide to consecrate Russia in the face of a threatened all-out European war (perhaps even, according to some reports, World War III) but he announces a day of fasting for the Russia-Ukraine crisis – when? On Wednesday, 2nd March – Ash Wednesday, in other words, which is already a day of fasting and abstinence. Honestly, I have to say it yet again, you could not make this stuff up.
https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1559553/pope-declares-march-2-a-day-of-fasting-for-peace-amid-russia-ukraine-conflict
I suppose we should be grateful that he’s not gone for another tree-planting session for peace in the region! There’s a photo at the end of the following report…
https://www.haaretz.com/.premium-an-empty-prayer-for-peace-1.5251164
Editor,
That really is laughable, and so is this famous USA star of a show called The View, worrying about how the Ukraine war will affect her holiday!
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/the-view-s-joy-behar-s-tone-deaf-remarks-ukraine-war-will-disrupt-holiday-spark-uproar/ar-AAUhSOM?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531
Josephine
Just when you think people can’t become any more self-absorbed. Who is this imbecile anyway? Never heard of her.
Westminster Fly,
Here’s the video – she’s the one wearing the red jacket (appropriately – they’re a bunch of looney lefties!)
Editor,
You mean Pope Francis actually believes in fasting? I’m so shocked I need to go lie down…..fast……
I’m not sure what to make of this video about Putin/Francis and the Consecration uploaded 7 years ago. Interesting.
https://youtu.be/74WaRCdjq2Y
Andrew Q
I don’t believe this at all. I have never found any evidence that Putin has shown the least interest in Fatima, if he even knows about it. Weird having a conversation like this in what looks like a pub . . . Things have happened like this before. All sorts of sensational claims were once made by another party about Gorbachev and Pope John Paul II after they met. These were later dismissed by a Vatican official as complete fabrications.
What do bloggers think of this:
https://unherd.com/2022/02/putins-spiritual-destiny/
Crofterlady
Highly unlikely, I think it’s just propaganda. I think this is more representative of Putin:- https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10139909/Russia-blocks-website-exposed-Putins-cleaner-turned-millionaire-mistress.html Divorcee, womaniser, father of illegitimate children, rich beyond belief.
Crofterlady,
Check this out: https://www.theburningplatform.com/2022/02/25/order-out-of-chaos-how-the-ukraine-conflict-is-designed-to-benefit-globalists/
This article unmasks the myth that Putin is anti-globalist. He is one of them.
WF, did you listen to his hour long monologue the other day? It was “messianic”. I think he thinks he has a mission to restore the Orthodox Chrustian Church in all the Russias so no sanction will ever deter him!
Crofterlady
As I said, I think it is all propaganda. The Russian Orthodox Church was and probably still is KGB controlled.
What if the Catholic Bishops in Ukraine together, dared ask Pope Francis to Consecrate Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary, in conjunction with all Catholic Bishops in the Catholic Church at the same time, what might be the answer of Pope Francis? What answer would the Pope give?
https://fatima.org/news-views/urgent-need-to-consecrate/
To comply with Our Lady’s request, Pope Francis and every Catholic Bishop of whatever rank, must Consecrate Russia at the same time. That means time zones have to be taken in account. The prayer of the consecration will be said in the morning, afternoon or evening. But for some it will during the night.
Who would formulate the actual prayer formula of that Consecration, because it would need to be the same prayer the Bishops pray. How would it be organised to know that every Bishop complied with the order of the Pope and said the same prayer? What is there to lose?
Theresa Rose,
Father Gruner wrote a Consecration of Russia prayer some years ago that he thought would eminently satisfy Our Lady’s request. However, I can’t find it anywhere, including on the Fatima.org website. Does anyone else recall reading this prayer?
Theresa Rose,
Many thanks for that link. I’m really pleased that the Fatima Center is on the ball with an update at this early stage.
As for the practicalities – a savvy pope would seize the opportunity to ask all the bishops to report to Rome for a very important meeting this week, urgent business and then hand them out a card with a simple prayer, “personally requested by Our Lady.” If any of them object and walk out, that won’t matter. I once heard Father Gruner answer a “what if” question about the scenario where not all the bishops would comply and he said a moral majority would suffice. It makes perfect sense that if the pope called the bishops together for this purpose (a) he’s done what was asked of him so uptick there and (b) if any bishops opt out, God help them at their judgement and (c) if the majority participate, then the Consecration will be effected and (drum roll)…
(d) we’ll run a blog on it here at Catholic Truth – what can possibly go wrong? 😀
Regarding Fr. Gruner’s prayer for the Consecration of Russia, I just found something very interesting: on p. 279 of “Fatima Priest” (a book about Father by Christopher Ferrara and Francis Alban), there is a little image in the right column, a reduction of a poster distributed all over Rome 2 weeks before a Fatima.org conference there in May 2011. The poster image says this:
“Only the Pope can save Rome. How? By a special 5-minute prayer. To learn more, ask for your FREE DVD. Watch the Conference “Consecration Now” on TV.” Then it gives the TV channel, dates of the Conference, and a toll-free phone # (800-98-4646). This seems to imply that Father’s Consecration prayer is included on the DVD.
https://fatima.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/Fatima-Priest.pdf
RCA Victor,
I checked out the Fatima Center website just now because, although I’ve often seen the link headlined words to the effect that Fr Gruner… all it takes is a 5 minute prayer…” I’ve never imagined that Fr Gruner had composed a prayer. When I clicked on the link I was proven right yet again (cough, cough)…
https://fatima.org/all-it-takes-is-a-simple-5-minute-prayer/
I don’t really think that Fr Gruner will have composed a prayer – I have always interpreted the reference to a 5 minute prayer as meaning that’s all that is needed. If the Pope can’t manage that all by himself, tell him to contact me – I’m good at asking for things in prayer, just not so great at getting answers 😀
Editor,
I’m fairly to completely certain (figure that one out!) that I read, years ago, a Consecration prayer that Father Gruner actually composed, as an example of how easy it would be to perform that obligation. Unfortunately, I don’t remember where I read it – perhaps in an old issue of the Fatima Crusader.
At any rate, since it is the season of getting taxes ready, I’ll have to put off rummaging through my old Crusader issues to see if I can find it. So, as General MacArthur once said, “I shall return.”
(But don’t ask me when he said it….)
RCA Victor,
The mystery, then, continues. I’ve obviously missed that prayer, but God bless Fr Gruner for going to the trouble of composing one – he did everything in his power to achieve the Consecration, short of asking to be included in the next conclave as a possible future Pope Nicholas! May he rest in peace!
This is really hotting up now that France is threatening nuclear war, as well.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/we-have-nukes-putin-issued-chilling-nato-warning-by-french-foreign-minister/ar-AAUi1Gx?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531
Surely, at some point, even such an awful pope as Francis will remember the Fatima warnings about not consecrating Russia? If I remember right, Francis paid his first visit to a statue of Our Lady of Fatima after being elected, and placed flowers there.
France is merely pointing out to Putin that Nuclear Bombs .Missles. Drones.Rockets. Etc Fly Both ways.
And Rightly So . That Josephine is called a Deterrent. Unless of course you Retaliate First.
If Putins own Politburo wont tell Him that then am glad that France has .
Speaking of Leadership . Has wee Sturgeon Left Her Bunker yet . Her silence is deafening. Maybe someone should slip a Note under Her cut away Door and inform Her that Face Masks won’t stop Bombs.
I recall the Fatima Centre published a prayer asking for the Consecration of Russia – it can be found here: https://gloria.tv/post/943CD2BNMQEf1wgNGUHYuznLM But I don’t recall Fr Gruner making an actual Act of Consecration to be read by the Pope. I don’t think he would do that.
Pope Francis went to the Russian embassy to express his concerns. It would be laughable, if is was not so frustrating, knowing he holds the key to obtaining world peace through the Consecration of Russia.
This excellent article is from Marinaio’s blog, where he links to this thread…
https://aaambrosetti.wordpress.com/2022/02/27/wars-and-rumors-of-wars-russia-ukraine-and-fatima/
I have been alerted to this pod cast on the Richie Allen show from Tuesday’s pod cast.
There is an interview with a man who interestingly talks about the Fatima connecting whats going on in the world and with Russia. He also mentions the Society of St. Pius of X. Richie Allen plans to bring him back on to discuss Fatima and the SSPX.. You would have to scroll to between 1:38:17 to 1:53:02 to hear the post cast interview. I found it interesting and thought I would share it with. you. I don’t normally listen to the Richie Allen show but I was alerted to it because of my interest in Fatima.
https://richieallen.co.uk/
Catherine,
Thank you for that link – I will listen to it now.
Catherine,
I listened to that segment but the Irish man with the unpronounceable name was all over the place. I’ve emailed Richie Allen using the form on his website, sending him this link and pointing to the video. The Irish man with the unpronounceable name didn’t even mention the Consecration. I think his enthusiasm took over and in his excitement he forgot to mention it, although he somehow found time to provide “evidence” that Pope Francis is a Freemason. Gimme strength!
https://catholictruthscotland.com/2021/05/09/fatima-explains-the-world-in-crisis-today-as-communism-spreads-fast/
Catherine, Editor,
I wasn’t too impressed with the man being interviewed either – he was speaking too fast, for one thing. He did seem very sure of his ground when he said Francis was a Freemason, so I Googled it and the very first link to come up is damning. It looks like there have been a string of Freemasonic popes. I’m not sure if I believe it all, but it does look convincing at first look. https://leozagami.com/2020/02/06/vatican-intelligence-officer-confirms-pope-francis-is-a-liberal-freemason/
I have since found our the person who was interviewed on the richie allen show on Tuesdays pod cast; his name is Gearoid O Colmain who was an Atheist and then converted to Catholicism. He has written a book called Wise Men Fear the Fury of God and has his own website. https://www.gearoidocolmain.org/
This is he man who was interviewed on the podcast: Gearoido Colmain
https://www.gearoidocolmain.org/
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