Why Are Scottish Catholic Schools Complying With The Shocking Scottish Govt Sex Survey?

Why Are Scottish Catholic Schools Complying With The Shocking Scottish Govt Sex Survey?

Editor writes…

The following email – from a concerned Catholic parent – arrived in my inbox today:

“You will no doubt be aware of the survey that the SNP [is] distributing to high school pupils across Scotland.
[See article in Herald Scotland – reproduced below for ease of reference, but be warned: explicit sexual content.]

I was horrified when I first read the [Herald] article and similar articles in other papers but I reassured myself that this would never get distributed in a Catholic High school.

I am outraged and deeply upset to report that the above survey is most definitely being distributed in Trinity High School in Rutherglen.

The worst thing is that the ‘Information sheet’ given to pupils (to pass on to their parents) says nothing of the nature of the questions.   If a parent does not fill in the Opt-Out form, the child will be made to complete the survey.  Even if one opts their child out from completing the survey, the ‘protected’ child will hear about the contents of the survey from their classmates whom either:-

  1. a)  overlooked handing the letter onto their parents or
  2. b)  whose parents read the information sheet, and understandably saw no issue based on the omission of any details of the nature of the survey.

I don’t believe any parent of any religion, or no religion, ethnicity, profession, class would consent to their child being presented with  this survey if they were made aware of the questions.

I would love to hear back from you as to whether or not you are able to create and such an article.”

[Ed: I replied to this correspondent with an assurance that I would launch a blog discussion on the subject, to which parents – and teachers – will be alerted. I’ll be sending the link to the Head at Trinity High and to the Scottish Bishops Conference. The Bishops have done their usual nominal bit by “objecting”… click here  to read that very weak response, asking the Government to withdraw the survey instead of demanding that it is certainly NOT distributed in Catholic schools. Still, we can’t really expect that when they invited Sturgeon to address a conference on Catholic education back in 2018 – gimme a break!]

From Herald Scotland… Warning: contains explicit sexual content.

THE Scottish Government have faced an angry backlash over controversial sex questions that school pupils are being asked to answer in a survey.

The census, aimed at S4 to S6 pupils, included questions on specific sexual experiences.

Scotland’s Children’s Commissioner Bruce Adamson has stepped in

The storm led to Scotland’s Children’s Commissioner Bruce Adamson urging the study to be paused over privacy and consent concerns.

Last month, Nicola Sturgeon refused to say whether she would answer the controversial school pupils’ census.

Would you answer any of the questions? Let us know in our polls below  (you will see these shocking questions in the link provided above and at the end of this introduction)….

SNP ministers have now come under further criticism after refusing to answer a freedom of information request which repeated one of the questions posed to school pupils.

The person making the request asked for “the number of government cabinet ministers who have indulged in anal sex”.

The request said that “I do not expect this information to be held on file”, adding “so I would appreciate if you could fire around a quick email to them asking this simple question”.

It added: “Can you provide the data in the form of a list of names, with a yes or no against their names please.

“Whether they enjoyed it or not is not required.”

The Scottish Government refused to answer the question, insisting the information is not held.

The Scottish Conservatives have said the refusal of ministers to give an answer shows how unreasonable the questionnaire is and have renewed their calls for the survey to be scrapped.

Politicians refuse to answer the survey questions
which are being put to students in schools! 

Scottish Tory children’s spokesperson, Meghan Gallacher, said: “It shows just how intrusive these questions are that SNP ministers won’t answer them.

“This controversial survey asks pupils inappropriate questions that most adults would feel uncomfortable answering.

“The way this data has been collected is flawed and the SNP should withdraw this survey from schools.”

But the Scottish Government has insisted it will continue to support the controversial survey.

A Scottish Government spokesperson said: “As is clear from the freedom of information request response, the information requested could not be provided because it is not held by the Scottish Government. This is in line with the requirements of freedom of information legislation.

“Parents/carers and children can opt out of taking part in the census if they wish.

“If children and young people do take part, they can skip any question they don’t wish to answer or state that they would ‘prefer not to say’.

“Health and wellbeing surveys like this one are not new and play a crucial role in ensuring children and young people have access to the help, advice and services they need.

“Local authorities administer the census in their schools to help identify the issues children and young people are concerned about and to tailor their learning, particularly in Personal and Social Education, and advice and support services.

“Whilst the Scottish Government has worked with stakeholders to design a set of questionnaires, it is for local authorities to determine which questions they ask. We fully support administering of this important census, and we will continue to engage with stakeholders on its implementation.”  Click here to read at source

Editor concludes…

I’m just glad I’m neither a student nor a member of staff in any Catholic school today.  That the students in the non-denominational sector are being subjected to this evil census is bad enough, God help them, but that the Bishops of Scotland have done nothing to prevent this going into Catholic schools, except ask Nicola Sturgeon very nicely if she would consider withdrawing it from use, is beyond scandalous. The hierarchy need to remember that there is more than one type of child abuse.  Matthew 18:6 springs to mind: “…he that shall scandalize one of these little ones who believe in Me, it were better for him that a millstone should be hanged about his neck and that he should be drowned in the depth of the sea.” In the years to come, there will be people who were subjected to these evil programmes of sexualisation and surveys in their Catholic (in name only) school, who will look back in anger at being forced to participate in such evil, which offends God and risks harming them, perhaps emotionally, psychologically and even physically.  Shocking.

In my considered opinion, the questions in this census are pornographic. No normal person of average intelligence would pose those questions to anyone, let alone a young person in school.  It is noteworthy that the very SNP politicians responsible for this, refuse to answer the questions themselves.  We’re into “you couldn’t make this stuff up” territory, yet again.   Parents (and teachers) should be rising up in fury at this latest intrusion by the Scottish Government into the personal and private lives of families and young people. They seem Hell-bent (literally) on destroying family life in Scotland.

Please spread the link to this discussion far and wide.  Encourage your family and friends to contact their local school, and if they are Catholics, to contact the Bishops to demand that pupils in Catholic schools are not presented with this pornographic document. You can contact the Scottish Bishops here

Be aware, though, that the time has come to admit that Catholic schools are finished. Finito. A thing of the past. So, don’t expect much, if anything, from the bishops.  I will send them the link to this thread, for their information. However, it’s best if everyone reading this, also writes. And if appropriate, let us know how you get on, or, at least, your address in exile, so we can keep it touch 😀

Oh, and don’t forget to answer the headline question – why, on earth, are Scottish Catholic Schools complying with this evil survey?

St Andrew, pray for Scotland; Queen Margaret of Scotland, pray for us!   Saint John Ogilvie, pray for us!  All the saints of Scotland, pray for us!  Our Lady of Fatima, pray for us!

Comments (42)

  • editor

    I sent the link to this thread to the Headteacher of Trinity High in Rutherglen (because that school is mentioned in the introduction) and to the Bishops. My email to them follows….

    Having received a request from a very concerned parent, I have launched a blog discussion on the subject of the shocking sex survey being used in Scottish schools, including Catholic schools.
    https://catholictruthscotland.com/2022/03/11/why-are-scottish-catholic-schools-complying-with-the-shocking-scottish-govt-sex-survey/

    May I draw your attention to the fact that when we contacted one of the English bishops recently about an unsuitable event (LGBTQ+ event) scheduled to take place in one of his schools, he acted immediately to have it cancelled and fired those archdiocesan appointed governors who voted to disobey. That’s the kind of firm, dutiful leadership we’d like to see from the Scottish Bishops over this scandal – a ruling to prohibit Catholic students being confronted with these pornographic questions.

    Thank you.

    March 11, 2022 at 11:21 pm
  • RCAVictor

    Speculative answer to headline question:

    Because the Scottish Catholic Schools are run by the Lavender Mafia.

    March 11, 2022 at 11:23 pm
  • editor

    I have just posted this update on the John Fisher School thread – and since it is very relevant to this discussion, posting it here, as well, because it really represents the end of Catholic schools. See original discussion on the John Fisher School at the following link…
    https://catholictruthscotland.com/2022/03/01/english-catholic-school-must-cancel-scandalous-lgbtq-history-month-book-signing-event/
    And subsequent discussion about the angry author, at this link
    https://catholictruthscotland.com/2022/03/10/simon-james-green-children-teens-gay-author-on-the-warpath-not-a-pretty-sight-folks/

    News just in…

    Fr James Clark has resigned from his position as Chaplain to The John Fisher School. A source close to him has informed me that Fr. Clark decided he simply couldn’t work in a school that was promoting and selling unsuitable, pornographic, material to children.

    This is sad – and very disturbing news. In fact, that any Catholic school should be so far gone, so lacking in a sense of morality, so unable to distinguish right from wrong, so imbued with the spirit of the age that a priest has to acknowledge that he cannot work effectively in that environment, is beyond “disturbing”.

    I have been arguing for years now that Catholic schools are finished. I, too, was forced to resign from a Catholic institution because the so-called liberals and modernists, very much opposed to Catholic morality on sexual matters, and just about everything else, didn’t want the Faith taught to students.

    It’s long-overdue time for the Bishops to obey the instruction of Pope John Paul II to remove the title “Catholic” from those institutions which do not deserve it, due to the kind of infidelity in teaching which we are witnessing at the JFS, and indeed in our own so-called Catholic schools in Scotland.

    Quoting from Pope John Paul II in Veritatis Splendor: “ A particular responsibility is incumbent upon Bishops with regard to Catholic institutions. Whether these are agencies for the pastoral care of the family or for social work, or institutions dedicated to teaching or health care, Bishops can canonically erect and recognize these structures and delegate certain responsibilities to them. Nevertheless, Bishops are never relieved of their own personal obligations. It falls to them, in communion with the Holy See, both to grant the title “Catholic” to Church-related schools,179 universities,180 health-care facilities and counselling services, and, in cases of a serious failure to live up to that title, to take it away.” (# 116)
    https://www.vatican.va/content/john-paul-ii/en/encyclicals/documents/hf_jp-ii_enc_06081993_veritatis-splendor.html

    Let’s remember Fr Clark in our prayers – I don’t know him personally, and have had no contact with him throughout this entire situation, but my guess is that he was right to resign, to obey Our Lord’s injunction to “shake the dust”. Once it becomes clear that we can do nothing to improve such a situation, that’s all we can do. Leave them to their spiritual blindness, and move on to more promising pastures. Let’s pray to Our Lady of Fatima, who forewarned us of precisely this sort of diabolical disorientation, where a “gay author” is more welcome in a Catholic school than a conscientious priest, that Father now enjoys peace of soul and a fruitful apostolate in his parish.

    Immaculate Heart of Mary, pray for him!”

    Finally…

    I wonder how many Catholic priests will consider resigning as chaplains from Scottish schools if the Bishops fail to do their manifest duty to protect young people from having to read and “answer” the pornographic questions in the SNP survey?

    My best guess? Begins with the letter z…

    March 12, 2022 at 9:19 am
    • RCAVictor

      Editor,

      My suspicious nature tells me he was forced out. If his Catholic-formed conscience was strong enough to resist the pornography in the first place, why would he surrender and leave after his cause was victorious?

      March 12, 2022 at 2:36 pm
      • Josephine

        RCA Victor,

        I don’t think he surrendered. By the sound of it he would have had his mission made impossible, by the same LGBTQ+ bunch who organised that evil book-signing. The intro says: “Fr. Clark decided he simply couldn’t work in a school that was promoting and selling unsuitable, pornographic, material to children.”

        Too true. Neither could anyone with a Catholic mind and soul. It sounds like he has taken control of his situation and jumped before they could push him, which is what bullies do. I am full of admiration for him.

        March 12, 2022 at 3:34 pm
      • Faith of Our Fathers

        ED I just read your comments on that good Priest leaving that School which promotes Sexually explicit material to the Point of it bordering on Pornography. No wonder a good Man left as He certainly didn’t want to get weighed down with others Millstones.

        I didn’t know YOU had also been forced out of a so Called Catholic School for Teaching The Faith. Of course you were probably told that you were not keeping FAITH with The Times . Do these People not know that God is unchangeable and that a Day to God is as 1000 Years. Apparently not. Of course that’s giving that they have a belief in God in the first instance. They certainly are not wise as we know that The Fear of The Lord is The Start of all Wisdom.

        March 13, 2022 at 9:06 am
    • Josephine

      Editor,

      If you are saying that zero school chaplains will resign from Catholic schools over this shocking sex survey, I agree 100%, If there’s a Catholic priest in Scotland worthy of the name, I’d like to meet him.

      I was disgusted reading the questions in that survey. Whoever made up those surveys is a danger to children, no question about it, and whoever approved it for use in schools, any schools, but especially Catholic schools should be locked up.

      March 12, 2022 at 3:41 pm
      • Theresa Rose

        Josephine,

        I agree with you. I too, was disgusted in reading the questions in that survey, it is pornographic to say the least. Whoever made up those surveys, a danger to children? Yes, I agree. Who did approve it for use in schools, Catholic or otherwise? Whoever it was should be locked up.

        That those in the SNP would not answer any of the questions in the survey on their own behalf, says a lot. It had me thinking if the questions in this survey could be seen as a type of voyeurism, by the SNP.

        In Catholic schools, considering this topic, a pity that the life and death of Saint Maria Goretti in not/never mentioned.

        https://www.mgoretti.org/mgstory

        March 12, 2022 at 5:21 pm
      • editor

        Theresa Rose,

        When I used the life of St Maria Goretti when teaching in an all girls school, I was criticised by those who suggested that, as a result, some girls might think they had to allow themselves to be murdered rather than raped. Er… what about, they might be better equipped to understand the beauty and importance of purity, and, like Maria, actually help to turn a possible sex-offender onto the right path… Remember, her attacker later repented and was actually present at her canonisation. Indeed, in the literature I’ve read (and used) about this great saint, the “r” word is never used. The accounts of her experience are carefully and tastefully written.

        So, imagine my surprise at finding myself on the receiving end of criticism at school, as well as reading similar criticism from the pen of a well-known Catholic writer and broadcaster, who took to the pages of one of the Catholic newspapers to insist that this great saint was not suitable as a role model for young people; I can’t recall her rationale off the top of my head, but I remember thinking that – given her reputation of being a fully orthodox Catholic in the midst of the ongoing Modernist crisis – with friends like these, who needs enemies!

        Yet, Pope Pius XII made clear in his canonisation speech, that this lovely saint was being canonised precisely to provide a suitable model for young people today – and much of what he said has proven to be prophetic – see below…

        Saint Maria Goretti, champion of Chastity, died in holiness that hot summer day in 1902 in the hospital in Nettuno. She was eleven years old.

        She was buried locally and remained there until 1929 when the Passionist Fathers asked Assunta’s [Maria’s mother] permission to place her body in the Sanctuary of the Basilica of Our Lady of Grace in Nettuno. She has been enshrined in that church ever since.

        Assunta obeyed Luigi after the death of her daughter. She took her children with her and returned to Corinaldo. There were times when she wondered if she had been stronger, if she had stood up to Luigi, if the Cimarellis had not wanted to leave Corinaldo, or if they had not followed them, if Maria would still be alive. But then she realized as the years unfolded and the sanctity of her daughter was brought more and more into the public eye, this child was martyred for a reason. She was to be the champion of purity and chastity, long after her death. She was to be a role model for these last days of the Twentieth Century when she would be needed the most. Maria Goretti was beatified in 1947 as a Martyr of Purity. Less than three years later, she was canonized by the same Pope, Pius XII.

        At her Canonization on June 24, 1950 in St. Peter’s Square in Vatican City, Pope Pius XII, whom we believe will one day be raised to the Communion of Saints, said of the occasion:

        “The concourse of the faithful come here for the occasion, exceeds anything that has ever been witnessed at any other canonization. You have been lured here, We might almost say, by the entrancing beauty and intoxicating fragrance of this lily mantled with crimson whom We, only a moment ago, had the intense pleasure of inscribing in the roll of the Saints: the sweet little martyr of purity, Maria Goretti. But why, beloved children, have you come here in such countless numbers to assist at her glorification?

        “…why does this story move you even to tears? Why has Maria Goretti so quickly conquered your hearts, and taken the first place in your affections?

        “The reason is because there is still in this world, apparently sunk and immersed in the worship of pleasure, not only a meagre little band of chosen souls who thirst for Heaven and its pure air – but a crowd, nay, an immense multitude on whom the supernatural fragrance of Christian purity exercises an irresistible and reassuring fascination.

        “…During the past fifty years, coupled with what was often a weak reaction on the part of decent people, there has been a conspiracy of evil practices, propagating themselves in books and illustrations, in theatres and radio programs, in styles and clubs and on the beaches, trying to work their way into the heart of the family and society, and doing their worst damage among the youth.

        “Dearly beloved youth….tell me, are you resolved to resist firmly with the help of Divine Grace, against every attempt made to violate your chastity?

        “You fathers and mothers, tell me – in the presence of this vast multitude and before the image of this young virgin who by her inviolate candor has stolen your hearts…in the presence of her mother who educated her to martyrdom and who, as much as she felt the bitterness of the outrage, never complained about her daughter’s death and is now moved with emotion as she invokes her – tell me, are you ready to assume the solemn duty laid upon you to watch, as far as in you lies, over your sons and daughters, to preserve and defend them against so many dangers that surround them, and to keep them always far away from places where they might learn the practices of impiety and of moral perversion?

        “Finally, all of you who are intently listening to Our Words, know that above the unhealthy marshes and filth of the world, stretches an immense heaven of beauty. It is the heaven which fascinated little Maria; the heaven to which she longed to ascend by the only road that leads there, which is, religion, the love of Christ, and the heroic observance of His commandments.

        “We greet you, O beautiful and lovable Saint! Martyr on earth and Angel in Heaven, look down from your glory on this people which loves you, which venerates, glorifies and exalts you.

        “…In you, through Our hands, the children and all the young people will find a safe refuge, trusting that they shall be protected from every contamination, and be able to walk the highways of life with that serenity of spirit and deep joy which is the heritage of those who are pure of heart. Amen”

        (Speech given by Pope Pius XII at the Canonization of St. Maria Goretti )

        March 12, 2022 at 10:19 pm
    • Margaret Mary

      I am so sad about Father Clark’s resignation but I agree with him that if he cannot work as a Catholic priest should to stop this moral evil when that is what he is responsible for, then the only course of action open to him, was to resign.

      The Head will get his comeuppance soon enough. What goes around comes around.

      March 12, 2022 at 9:45 pm
  • Antoine Bisset

    There are no Catholic State schools such as there were in the 1960s in Scotland. Teachers were required to be Catholics with a certificate that indicated some knowledge of the Faith. Broadly speaking Bishops and priests were orthodox and Catholic. The local authorities kept their part of the bargain as regards the Catholic Education Act. There was a Catholic chaplain for every school and Catholics were consulted and involved in issues of educational policy and provision.
    Then along came Vatican 2, ecumenism and now “Catholic” schools are swamped with muslims.

    March 12, 2022 at 12:36 pm
    • Josephine

      Antoine Bisset,

      Muslims would not put up with the kind of evil-doing going on in Catholic schools today. They used to choose Catholic schools to protect their children from this sort of evil. There are some Muslims in the schools for sure, but I’d hardly say “swamped” because in that case, Nicola Sturgeon wouldn’t be sending evil explicit sex surveys into the schools.

      As for the bishops – a total waste of space. They will never go against the SNP government to their eternal shame.

      March 12, 2022 at 3:38 pm
      • Antoine Bisset

        “Swamped” or not swamped, why are there muslims in Catholic schools? I am suggesting that the presence of muslims in Catholic schools is a key indicator of what is wrong. My preamble to that is a an overview of how it happened.
        You will have seen the girls in their burquas on their way to and from Notre Dame High School?

        March 12, 2022 at 4:36 pm
      • editor

        Antoine,

        Allow me to answer that one. Years ago, a Glasgow priest, now deceased, so won’t name him, hit the headlines effectively leading marches in protest at the proposed closure by the local Council authorities of some Catholic schools. Everyone up in arms. The politicians were branded anti-Catholic bigots and fire and fury reined supreme in Glasgow.

        My then Parish Priest (RIP) – a terrific preacher – metaphorically thumped the pulpit one glorious Sunday and said, loud and clear, referencing a certain priest who is leading marches demanding an end to attacks on Catholic education: “There isn’t a Council in the land that could close any Catholic school, if they contained Catholic children.”

        Contracepting Catholics explains the presence of Muslims (and other non-Catholics) in alleged Catholic schools.

        So, while I’ve not seen any girls in Muslim dress on their way to and from Notre Dame High School, neither have I seen any pupils, girls or boys, on their way to and from any Catholic High School wearing a Miraculous Medal or a crucifix, and clasping a rosary in his/her pocket. Most of them lapse from the Faith before they leave school. Such is the “quality” of Catholic education. It’s time the Bishops removed the title “Catholic” from them, every single one of them. Restore the traditional Mass and Faith and start again – nothing else will work.

        It is because, in fact, Catholics have become as imbued with the spirit of this evil age in sexual matters as any pagan you care to name, that the SNP government is confident that their pornographic sex survey in all Scottish schools will go largely unremarked.

        Has YOUR priest mentioned it? Alerted parents to ensure that their children are opted out? Thought not.

        March 12, 2022 at 7:47 pm
  • Faith of Our Fathers

    ED it’s no surprise that the Horrible Patrick Harvie and the Equally Horrible Sturgeon are now in Bed with each other. Although I don’t think that’s Literally as Wee Patrick says He’s one of the Alphabet Soup Mob.
    Surely their has to be at least One Bishop ( discount Toal though) who will Object and Object strongly to this Pornographic Material being sent out to Our Children . Theirs at least One thing clear here and it’s this . Whoever even thought of this Filth being distributed in any School has a Perverted Deviant Reprobate Mind.

    Going back to so called Catholic School Teachers . There was one Guy whom I helped way bejond any means to become a Teacher. He thinks that Sturgeon is the Bee’s Knees . To sum up His character I called him over 7 years ago to congratulate him on achieving becoming a Teacher . He said at the time He was busy and that He would call me back . Am still waiting on that Phone Call. I think that says a lot of the Teachers in our Schools . And He said that He still identified being a Catholic but their was lots of the Faith He didn’t believe in.
    God Help Our Children.

    March 12, 2022 at 3:40 pm
  • Faith of Our Fathers

    Josephine i know not what age you are but am in my 70s . O for the Days when Gay meant Joyful and Happy . O for the Days when a Trannie meant a Transistor Radio . O for the Days when most if not all Catholic Bishops and Priests were actually Catholics and not career Men.
    This Filth now distributed in Catholic Schools would Never not by one of them be passed as fit to read for any Catholic never mind a Child.
    Ad like others opinions on this.
    But to me this is the Horrible S.N.P. and The Terrible Greens way of lowering the age of consent.

    March 12, 2022 at 3:50 pm
  • Margaret Mary

    My goodness – I thought I’d seen it all when I read those horrific scenes from the Simon Green book. These questions are filthy.

    I have to say this, that Nicola Sturgeon’s preoccupation with children and sex, her participation in gay pride marches, put together or either separately, does raise questions about her own moral judgment and her own sexuality. There’s definitely something not right there.

    I would add that the fact the bishops merely raised a whimper about this survey and then fell silent again, also raises the same questions about them, each and every one of them.

    March 12, 2022 at 9:44 pm
    • Faith of Our Fathers

      M.Mary I and probably all on Here are of the same opinion what kind of Moral Mentality does Sturgeon have or maybe more importantly not have.
      For example. Like me I don’t suppose that you would let Sturgeon Baby Sit your Children or Grandchildren and am not using that as a metaphor, am being serious . I wouldn’t let that Woman or Her Cohorts near mine.

      As for Her taking part in those Horrible Pride things that also has to be taken into consideration. I think that av posted this before but it deserves to be read again. B.F.T.L. in the Glasgow Pride March. She walked in the front with 2 Lesbian Activists. Of course their Activism didn’t mean they got up in the Morning for Work.
      Anyhow they both lived together but still in a way Fancied Men . So both decided , with Young Nicks Blessing to get Transgender Operations which were the Full Buna and you know what that means. Now to us having these lots of Time unnecessary Life Threatening Operations is a terrible waste to our N.H.S.
      B.T.W. it’s a Pity that Mr Greens Apologist Max didn’t think of the waste of Taxpayers Money on all of The Transgender Garbage. O and not forgetting the Price of PREP drugs.
      What say you MAX.

      March 13, 2022 at 3:47 pm
  • Lily

    I’m noting the difference between the number of commentators on this thread about the impurity being taught in Scottish Catholic schools, with the numbers of concerned parents who signed up to comment on the English, John Fisher School thread and who caused sufficient noise to have that shocking book-signing cancelled.

    Do Scottish parents not care about this filthy survey? Obviously one cared enough to contact editor, but where are all the rest, insisting that this disgusting survey be cancelled. I couldn’t believe my eyes, reading those questions. Everyone involved in composing it and getting it into schools, should be sacked.

    March 12, 2022 at 10:51 pm
  • gabriel syme

    It is disgraceful that this is being distributed in a Catholic school – even one in todays world, where they are lukewarm at best.

    I agree with Editors comment about the Bishops doing their “nominal bit” – I am sure that is just how they see it, box ticking and no more.

    What does it say about them, if the survey has gone ahead anyway? That they are joke figures, stuffed gonks, place men.

    Though I would ask – to what extent do head teachers have autonomy here? Its no secret that the approval process for Catholic teachers these days is a mere formality – indeed even with these lax rules, they can still barely get enough teachers. I wonder if some ‘small c’ nominal Catholic has decided this is a good idea.

    At least parents have the better (if not perfect) option of opt out, though this would require them to be informed and interested in their children’s welfare. However, many ‘Catholic’ parents these days think their job is done if their child attends a school starting with “Saint….” and they support Celtic FC:

    Lets not forger the deeply unhealthy relationship between the Catholic Church in Scotland and the ruling SNP either. The lay flunkies who haunt Eyre Hall are all dyed in the wool nationalists, and the Bishops are happy to bow to Sturgeon, if she offers the occasional pretence that they have some relevance or weighty voice.

    March 12, 2022 at 10:53 pm
  • RCAVictor

    Josephine,

    To reply to your comment of 3:34 pm, first let me say that I shouldn’t have used the word “surrender” when I started out by speculating that Father was forced out, rather than resigning of his own volition.

    Second, my point, more precisely, is this: why would he resign because “he simply couldn’t work in a school that was promoting and selling unsuitable, pornographic, material to children” – when, in fact, in this case, he DID successfully work to help put a stop to such scandal?

    Something is fishy…but if my nose is smelling fish when there is none, and Father’s statement should be taken at face value, then that doesn’t speak too well of the atmosphere of John Fisher School, which seems to have arrived at the diametric opposite of what St. John Fisher was.

    March 12, 2022 at 11:15 pm
    • editor

      RCA Victor,

      From my own experience in Catholic education, I would wager that the very fact of having “successfully worked to help put a stop to [this] scandal” has made Father Clark’s life in that school impossible.

      Having made the presence of orthodox Catholicism in one modernist (with bells on) “Catholic” institution of learning felt, I found myself subjected to all sorts of unpleasant revenge tactics, which included finding a pornographic magazine in my staffroom locker on one occasion, with students informing me that one of the loudest supporters of contraception (she was teaching the “Marriage & Family Life” course when I took up post – one of my first challenges!) was mocking my bulletin notices, read out in registration groups, whether about some devotional provision being made available or “Saint of the Day” quote, stuff like that. The students alerting me, weren’t students whom I taught – just students who were appalled at the unprofessionalism of their tutor.

      In the end, such behaviour makes it impossible to promote the Faith. It’s difficult to teach about Christian charity when you have to say, effectively, pray for your tutor, she’s a nasty piece of work 😀

      So, although you are correct, in one sense, in thinking that the chaplain was forced out rather than actually wanting to resign, a significant number of his colleagues would – without a doubt – have worked hard to make it impossible for Father to conduct his priestly office in that awful school. Whatever it’s excellent history, it’s awful now. My sympathy, then, is 100% with Fr Clark.

      Your final sentence hits the nail on the head. St John Fisher would not remotely identify himself and his love for the Faith to the point of martyrdom, with that (I repeat) awful school.

      March 13, 2022 at 8:02 am
      • RCAVictor

        Editor,

        That scenario is very revealing. Maybe we should have a thread on the tactics of Modernists/Communists/Marxists/Freemasons – and their useful idiots – in the Church and in Catholic (??) education.

        March 13, 2022 at 5:54 pm
      • editor

        RCA Victor,

        Would it make any difference, such a thread?

        When we consider that there are only 23 comments on this thread, many of them from thee and from me, where are all the concerned parents, priests and anyone else – does anybody in Scotland – aside from the handful of commentators here – think there is anything wrong with presenting the filthy questions in that “census” to teenagers in secondary school? Doesn’t seem like it to me.

        March 13, 2022 at 6:20 pm
  • Sanctus

    Editor I think it’s time to close the blog and consider moving into social media. On each thread for the last year almost half the comments are from your good self and the others are from two or three loyalists. You would reach a wider audience on social media. I think the blog is now a spent force.

    March 13, 2022 at 7:00 pm
    • editor

      How kind of you to take an interest.

      Have you read the questions being put to teenage students in Scottish schools?

      What do you think of them?

      Have you written to your MSP?

      Have you contacted your bishop?

      I’ll be signing up for (anti) social media around 20 years after Hell freezes over.

      March 13, 2022 at 8:14 pm
    • Margaret Mary

      Sanctus,

      Wash your mouth out with soap and water! Close this blog, the only Catholic blog in Scotland? What’s wrong with you?

      March 14, 2022 at 5:23 pm
  • Andrew

    I am a teenager at school and I would never complete this survey and would discourage my friends too. It is very disturbing that the people that I am supposed to look up to would expect this of me and other young people.

    March 13, 2022 at 8:45 pm
  • RCAVictor

    Editor,

    Since, according to your site statistic, there are 933 subscribers to this blog, it would seem that what people think does not necessarily result in the number of people who comment. So don’t give up the fight or get discouraged, because if you do, I have sanctions at my disposal…. 🙂

    March 13, 2022 at 9:21 pm
    • editor

      RCA Victor,

      Thank you for that – I’m not too interested in what “Sanctus” says since he’s no stranger to trolling here 😀

      I’ve already had an email from a reader reminding me that “Most of the faithful Catholic apostolates are coming OFF social media, because as soon as they criticise LGBT+, abortion, covid – anything politically incorrect (about 99% of CT’s output) you will get shut down immediately, and banned…” How true.

      It is annoying that we have so many visitors to the site, but so few regular commentators. This past week alone, our visits have ranged from 2,500 (plus), to 7,000 (plus), to 3,500 (plus) with over 1,000 on less busy days – like today; Sundays are usually quiet. Our aim is to educate in the Faith and if we manage to do that to the best of our ability, and to provide a platform for concerned Catholics, then the blog is serving its purpose.

      I’ll keep your sanctions in mind – thank you for that – but I should remind everyone that I have character defects and I’m not afraid to use them 😀

      March 13, 2022 at 9:57 pm
      • Sanctus

        I must have missed the faithful Catholic apostolates coming off social media. Taylor Marshall, the Fatima Center, the SSPX ETC are all still fighting the fight. Who has come off?

        March 13, 2022 at 10:18 pm
      • Fidelis

        Sanctus.

        None of the groups you mention touches on the “LGBT+, abortion, covid – anything politically incorrect (about 99% of CT’s output)” They all specialise in theology in one way or another. Marshall deals with liturgy a lot and the crisis in the Church, the Fatima Center deal with Fatima and the SSPX report on the SSPX, LOL! Nothing to bother the tech giants in any of their output.

        This blog is unique in Scotland, so we need the platform. As far as I know, it’s not mandatory though so people like you who are looking for ways to degrade it, should stay away. You are not Catholic in spirit.

        March 13, 2022 at 10:44 pm
      • Margaret Mary

        Sanctus,

        The Remnant came off YouTube and have their own channel now, same with Lifesitenews, that’s just off the top of my head, but there’ll be more.

        March 14, 2022 at 5:21 pm
  • St Bernadette

    Excellent blog. This survey is outrageous I have witnessed it all over social media few weeks ago. A glasgow cabbie Stef Shaw has been alerting attention to it and scottish family party.
    Also other groups like stand by me and Wales public child protection.
    All are outraged and expressed their views very strongly against it.
    From information gathered from glasgow cabbie there is local councils who have suspended these surveys as they investigate it.
    I will try find out there results of the campaign pass it on.
    I will share with others to raise more awareness.

    March 13, 2022 at 9:28 pm
  • Catherine

    I am horrified at this survey. Again, this further confirms to me I was right to take my children out of state school and educate them myself. If it was not for this blog there would be no way parents, grandparents etc would learn half the things that go on in our so-called ‘Catholic Schools’.

    I can’t imagine busy mothers always getting a chance to blog but knowing that they can read the blog when time allows and receive the latest blog discussion into their inbox keeping them abreast of what’s going on is reassuring, so it would be disappointing if this blog was to close,

    March 13, 2022 at 9:30 pm
    • Fidelis

      Catherine,

      You are 100% correct. I know we don’t always blog as often as we’d like but that doesn’t mean the blog is not working – it’s, for many of us, our first “go to” source for Church information – especially as regards so-called Catholic schools.

      March 13, 2022 at 10:48 pm
  • RCAVictor

    Editor,

    Your post about St Maria Goretti and the idiotic (i.e. liberal) “what if” response reminded me of a woman I knew years ago who claimed that it was wrong to display a crucifix – esp. a life-sized one – in front of children, because they would become frightened!

    I replied something like “Strange, isn’t it, how for centuries, looking at a crucifix has inspired children to love Our Lord.” Oh, and God forbid any child should become frightened – that just doesn’t fit in with the leftists’ ideas about a suffering-free utopia (where the government controls you from cradle to grave…).

    Speaking of leftists – i.e. those obsessed with sex – it would appear that your Head Fish is not entirely to blame for this disgusting survey, since it comes from the bowels of 2 universities (institutions of lower learning), and something called the “MRC/CSO SOCIAL AND PUBLIC HEALTH SCIENCES UNIT.” Believe it or not, this pornography is a “study” that Scotland has been participating in since 1990, according to the information sheet linked.

    Moreover, the information sheet describes this as a survey of “health behaviors” – not surprising at all, since said leftists (a) refer to the murder of children in the womb as “reproductive health,” (b) think that there are far too many people on this planet and that most of them must be disposed of, preferably through “vaccines” that will kill or maim them for life. Now there’s some serious “health”!

    Perhaps this is further proof that if you leave leftists to their own devices long enough, they will expose themselves as enemies of the human race, and of God. But getting back to the situation at hand, that’s exactly the problem: we, and the Church, have left them to their own devices for far too long.

    Could it be that this scandal will awaken a sleeping giant, as the Marxist CRT curriculum has done in the USA? Or is the sleeping giant merely yawning and stretching before he goes back to sleep?

    March 13, 2022 at 9:51 pm
    • Lily

      RCA Victor,

      I don’t see this census waking up “a sleeping giant”. Amazing as it seems, I don’t think most parents care what their kids are taught in school. Just like some people listen without thinking of questioning a doctor, so they assume the teacher knows best. It’s incredible. I would bet a pound to a penny that the majority of parents would say that oh, well, they need to know about these things – I kid you not!

      March 14, 2022 at 10:45 am
      • Mack

        Lily,

        I was just coming on to say exactly the same thing – the insignificant number of parents on here (statistically speaking) is sufficient proof of that, IMHO. I’ve actually heard parents saying that same thing for years, about the most explicit sex-ed, so they’re not likely to bother about this evil bunch of pornographic questions. If there’s such a thing as this kind of sex, or that kind, then it’s important that the young ones know about it – that’s their brain’s corrupt way of thinking. Some parents. I’m thankful I had the old fashioned kind, LOL!

        March 14, 2022 at 10:51 am
  • Fidelis

    I have read through the questions on that evil census and each one is worse than the one before. Completely disgraceful that any responsible adult would approve such a document to put before youngsters.

    Our Lady said at Fatima (to little Jacinta) that more souls go to Hell through sins of impurity than any other sin, so those people, unless they repent, are lost souls.

    March 13, 2022 at 10:46 pm
  • St Bernadette

    Sharing some more information on the survey.
    It was reported in the scottish express on 22 jan 2022. Headline was
    Glasgow cabbie leading police station protest against controversial SNP schoolchildrens sex survey. Journalist David walker.
    He had United with scottish family party and did a speech, since then local pastor has reached out to him and they had reached out to cathiluc bishops.
    The glasgow cabbie has thanked cathilic bishops especially bishop John Keenan for the support to call out the scottish government on this.
    The result was local councils involved in putting a stop and reviewing the content of the survey are
    East Ayrshire
    East Dumbartonshie
    South Lanarkshire
    Shetland
    Inverclyde
    Moray
    Scottish borders
    Orkney
    Renfreshire
    Dumfries and Galloway.
    Any other information I will post back on.

    March 14, 2022 at 2:37 pm
    • Margaret Mary

      St Bernadette,

      That’s great news. Thanks for posting.

      March 14, 2022 at 5:20 pm

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