23 April: Feast of St George of Englandeditor
St George is famous for his courage in slaying a dragon – in previous years we’ve discussed his bravery and how we need to show courage in exercising our duty as Soldiers of Christ. Discuss examples of this duty in action, as you see it in these “woke” times.
As with all Feast Day threads, feel free to discuss relevant issues, and post your favourite prayers, stories and hymns.
Pray especially for our English friends, as we approach the Feast of their Patron Saint, which falls tomorrow.
I think St George is a great example of courage, and we need that right now to stand up against the woke culture.
However, I was surprised to see the ending of that video, throwing cold water on the idea that the story of the saint slaying the dragon is just a legend. There are plenty of legends which grow up around the saints, and I don’t see anything wrong with that.
The teaching about the serpent in the Garden of Eden, I have always understood as being a kind of symbol, with the serpent representing Satan. It doesn’t make sense otherwise IMHO. I’ll be interested to see what others think about this. It’s not denying the meaning of the story of the temptation of Adam and Eve, and their sin, so it doesn’t deny anything. I’ve always believed the story, just not taking it literally, and I’ve always believed in the crucifixion, so the video is wrong on that, IMHO.
I am sure we’ve discussed this before but I am not an expert, so I googled and found this website on the subject, which rejects the belief that the story of Adam & Eve is symbolic. https://www.gotquestions.org/Adam-and-Eve-story.html
The story of St George might be a legend, though, there are such things as legends in the lives of the saints, so that’s not a problem. He was known to be a very brave man so with or without a dragon in the story, we can admire this great saint.
I found this explanation at Catholic Answers and it makes sense to me that the story of Adam & Eve is both real, i.e. Adam & Eve were real persons, at the beginning of time, but the telling of their story is symbolic https://www.catholic.com/qa/genesis-symbolical-or-literal
You can believe it literally, i.e. serpent etc. if you want, but the Church doesn’t demand that, to the best of my knowledge, remembering previous discussions about it here.
That’s a good explanation from Catholic Answers, and it makes sense to me. I’d sooner think of the Adam & Eve story as symbolic, than have to explain a talking snake, LOL!
I take it for granted that Adam & Eve were real people, our first parents – they’re not symbolic. I think that’s all the Church requires we believe, the rest we can decide for ourselves.
I agree about the dragon in the story of St George being a symbol or a legend. As you say, there’s nothing wrong with that. I think it’s a great story and it does give us a handle on the need to show courage as Catholics during these mad times, with all the wokeness around us. If we’re tempted to go “trans” we should think of St George and be brave in saying no, God made us male and female, end of!
Lily & the rest of the Scripture Scholarship Brigade!
Yes, we must, absolutely, believe that Adam & Eve, our first parents, really did exist and really did fall from God’s grace – enter Original Sin…
The landmark encyclical on Sacred Scripture – Providentissimus Deus – is published at the front of every Catholic Bible (the Douay-Rheims). But to save you pulling it from you bookcase… voila!
See #14 & 15 on the interpretation of Scripture – the Fathers, but the entire encyclical is worth reading.
Lily don’t take this to Heart but being tempted to be a Gender Bender is certainly not on my list of Prayers to St Michael . As for St George he’s now redundant just like St Patrick and St Andrew they are surplice to requirements in these terrible times.
Maybe that useless Ex Archbishop Rowan Williamson will see that St George is a Spiritual Symbol of the Conquering of the Tranny’s. But since He sees that Changing ones Gender is a Sacred Journey I very much doubt it.
Also as regards the Church of England If we look at History we practically see Our Catholic Church under Bergoglio and His Lavender Maffie taking the exact same route.
Maybe St George will twin up with St Michael the Archangel and swoop down and cleanse that place called The Vatican where Bergoglio and His cohorts have now turned into The New Babylon.
God Bless the Holy Saints of England and keep wee Nippy from splitting up the United Kingdom.
Faith of our Fathers,
St George isn’t redundant! His feast is on the calendar marked on the 23rd April, tomorrow. Also, St Patrick and St Andrew are not “surplus to requirements”. We should pray to all the saints when we get the chance. I don’t know why you’re mentioning the C of E – happy feast tomorrow!
Here’s proof for FOOF that St George isn’t redundant – a nice hymn in his honour as the clock creeps round to the midnight hour and the Feast arrives…
Happy Feast of St George everyone! God bless England! I thought I’d post this poem to mark the day:
AH! from my eyes the tears unbidden start,
Albion! as now thy cliffs (that bright appear
Far o’er the wave, and their proud summits rear
To meet the beams of morn) my beating heart,
With eager hope, and filial transport hails!
Scenes of my youth, reviving gales ye bring.
As when, ere while, the tuneful morn of spring
Joyous awoke amid your blooming vales,
And fill’d with fragrance every breathing plain; —
Fled are those hours, and all the joys they gave,
Yet still I sigh, and count each rising wave,
That bears me nearer to your shores again;
If haply, ‘mid the woods and vales so fair,
Stranger to Peace! I yet may meet her there.
by William Lisle Bowles.
Happy Feast of St George, everyone!
Our English Blogger-in-Chief, Westminster Fly, is unable to visit us today, but he is – in any case – “absolutely devastated that we didn’t have a Feast of Westminsterfly thread” earlier this week, 21st, to mark his birthday!
Next year, WF. Next year! In the meantime, a belated happy birthday to you!
A belated happy birthday, Saint Westminsterfly!
Happy Feast of St George. I’m praying for England today, especially that they protect us from the SNP, LOL!
Belated happy birthday from me, too, Westminsterfly!
I’m late in the day for St George and St Westminsterfly, LOL!
I wish all our English cousins a very happy Feast of St George, who is a real model of courage for us all.
I’ve just read this – after Nicola Sturgeon did the decent thing and wished “Happy St George” on her Twitter feed, other nationalists attacked her and said St George had never been to England – well, neither did St Andrew visit Scotland, LOL!
Yet again, I forgot to wish everyone a Happy Feast of St George!
Thanks to everyone who contributed to this Feast Day thread, which I’ll now close to comments.
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