Is The “Gay” Scottish Priesthood – Which is Disgracing Holy Mother Church – Here to Stay?editor
Editor shares extracts from two messages which dropped into her inbox earlier this week…
Diocese of Motherwell – Ordination of Christopher Morris takes place today…
If you want to know how arrogant, deviant and dismissive the hierarchy are of the People of God just look at Motherwell Cathedral this Thursday [30 June, 2022] when Bishop Toal ordains Christopher Morris who is predatory and deviant. So much for victims and safeguarding.
A man reported during his time in Rome for cruising, attending gay bars, psychologically, physically and sexually bullying numerous fellow seminarians – for which reason the staff threw him out in no small part thanks to Catholic Truth.
Ed: This is a reference to my approach to the seminary rector some years ago, when Morris attended the Scots College in Rome. Christopher phoned me at the time and assured me that he understood that his behaviour had to change; he presented himself as contrite. Thus, his name was omitted from our reports into the the extent of homosexuality within the Church in Scotland, at that time. My more recent attempts to contact him have failed. All approaches have been ignored. Wherever did that sweet-talkin’ laddie go? Seems to have disappeared into the Motherwell Mist… Never mind; I will be praying for him today – and for the faithful souls who will be placed into his [whatdyimacallit] pastoral care. God help us all.
Despite advice from Christopher’s numerous victims, seminary and diocesan staff and his presbyterate for some reason Bishop [Toal] is still ordaining him. There will be few diocesan clergy present but as many protestors and of course most diocesan clergy are refusing to welcome him into their parishes… End of extracts.
Diocese of Paisley – Seminarian on Gay Dating App, Grindr…
I am writing to you because I was absolutely shocked to find a seminarian for the Diocese of Paisley on the gay dating app Grindr. His name is Paul Laverty, 34, and he will be going into his fifth year of formation in September at the Scots College in Rome. [Ed: There were several screenshots attached to this email.]
His Grindr profile is faceless but shows his legs and feet. He gives some general details about himself etc. However, I was also shocked to discover that he was recently tested for HIV in April 2022 – the Easter holidays! Therefore, he must be sexually active while he is in Rome and in Paisley. I was also told that Paul got excessively drunk at the St. Andrew’s Day 2021 celebrations in the College and was embarrassing himself in front of other seminarians, College staff and a guest who was celebrating his jubilee.
Moreover, I find it completely unacceptable that Bishop John Keenan is allowing Paul to continue to priesthood. However, John Keenan is a wolf in sheep’s clothing so it’s hardly surprising. I think Paul Laverty is a completely dangerous individual who clearly is not suited to a celibate lifestyle. He should be stopped from continuing his studies for priesthood before he causes more damage to himself and to others. End of extracts.
(i) I have written to both the Vocations Director of the Diocese of Paisley, and the Scots College in Rome, email dated 27 June, as follows:
I would be grateful if you would provide an email address for the seminarian, Paul Laverty, so that I may contact him directly. If you are not free to do that, would you forward this email to him, so that he can contact me. I would like to clarify a matter in his regard, which has been brought to my attention today. Thank you.
No reply from either the Diocese or the Scots College. Nor has Paul Laverty contacted me directly. I’m reliably informed that Bishop Keenan has been approached about this matter but, again, he, too, has ignored the correspondent. I’m trying to think of a joke about letter-writing but my mind’s gone blank. Oh! maybe that’s why they don’t write letters – maybe they’ve got blank minds, as well… As well as no Faith, even fewer morals, and flexible principles. It’s no joke, though, believe me.
(ii) The photo at the top of this page features Fr Paul Morton, Parish Priest of St Bride’s parish in Cambuslang, Diocese of Motherwell. So reflect: Father Paul Morton was permitted to publicly support the LGBTQ+ Pride march, sporting a rainbow tie, while Fr Matthew Despard, another Motherwell priest remains suspended for the crime of writing a book (Priesthood in Crisis) to expose actively homosexual priests in the diocese – i.e. those with the temerity to make their living out of the Church, while blatantly disobeying God’s Moral Law and the Church’s teaching on priesthood. And further, as if Bishop Toal has not done enough to rub Fr Despard’s nose in it (poor Father has been put through the mill), he’s now – on this very day – ordaining a known homosexually active man to the priesthood. It’s called dicing with (eternal) death.
Is there any way the faithful can make these arrogant bishops pay attention? We don’t want sexually active priests, whether they are homosexual or indulging more natural appetites. Don’t you get it, Bishop Toal? Bishop Keenan? Don’t you blankety blank get it? Or, are we the ones not getting the message, the message being that we must shut up and accept the reality of an increasingly “gay” priesthood. Is that it? To which I reply: Sure, I’ll get used to this new arrangement – approximately one hundred years after Hell freezes over… Your thoughts.
One thing is clear for me that I won’t contribute any donations of monies on Sunday collections to fund their double lifestyles. Cos if I did that, Its called an accessory to sin. Anyway, the Catholic Church has massive wealth as they don’t need ours, so to speak. If they continue to flaunt their hidden double lives, it’s Church-accumulated monies they will use, not mine or yours. If in my dreams just saying wishfully, I was Pope Francis de sales, I would defrock that Bishop Toal straight away without any appeal just like Pope Benedict did that to the fake stigmatist that I had visited him in Italy re side trip. I could see the arrogance and smouldering coming from that Bishop of Motherwell. Despard situation made me boiling but I can’t do anything else except for withhold my monies.
One thing that puzzled me was that Scottish Catholic Church vocation rate in terms of numbers has remained stable or good so far if you like despite scandals such as KOB or CM. but here in Ireland, vocation rate is collapsing and in free fall. Don’t think we will have priests in 20 or 30 years time. 20 years ago 160 priests in West of Ireland, now it’s 69 with 2/3 of it over 65 or more. It will become quite scarce re priests except for Traddies societies such as FSSPX or fssp or institute of Christ the king are bit stable here.
You are right to withhold donations to the diocesan collections, but perhaps you might consider adapting the American tactic from some years ago where they put in a fake dollar with the words “No dogma, no dollar”. You might adapt that to putting in a piece of paper which reads “No morals, no money” (or similar – I’m overdue my morning coffee!)
As for vocations in Scotland – are you kidding? All five of our national seminaries have had to close. The only one left is the Scots College in Rome and they’re looking to replace that with a smaller building. Gimme a break.
When I visited the websites of both the diocese of Motherwell & Paisley for the purpose of preparing this thread, I clicked on the Vocations pages and there was very little about priesthood, just encouragement for those who may consider the (married) permanent diaconate. This sounds like a plan, to me. To do away with the Catholic priesthood altogether. Before you think “great idea” just remember that no deacon will be any use to you in your dying moments: they can neither confect the Eucharist, nor absolve sins.
PS I’ve just paid another visit to both sites and there is nothing about priestly vocations on the Motherwell site (nothing that I can find, for sure) and very little on the Paisley site. See if you can prove me wrong. Here’s Motherwell and here’s Paisley
ED it has surely come to the time for a Schism. This is now the Bergoglion Church not Our Catholic Church their is no Faith there. Were they so these Homosexuals wouldn’t be ruling the roost. This is worse than scandalous ,it is a crime.
Wherever this Ordained Homosexual goes to HOW can anyone go to Confession knowing these Men live Reprobate Lifestyles.
Editor, thanks for your comments. Interesting re no seminary in Scotland except for Rome. Its quite similar to Ireland as maynooth now closed down and up for sale. Most seminarians sent abroad now I think as they don’t tell you where. My visit to fake stigmatist now deceased outside of Rome which I visited him as a side trip re holiday to Italy way back then. His full name was fr gino burresi as you can check his name out. What was unprecedented that Pope bVxi defrocked him without any recourse to appeal just 1 or 2 months after he became a Pope. He was tall and quite aloof as its quite a spectacle to see seminarians, who flocked around him especially usa ones. Nuns were even more protective of him which should have set off alarm bells ringing inside my head. I couldn’t make head or tails out of that stigmatist. He was v aloof as mother with down syndrome child was upset re him. He blamed her for down syndrome child which I found it hard to believe. Then I contacted a guy from USA named Rick salbato as he told me to stay away from him. He was dead right cis he found out more and more when he stayed at their place for 4 weeks. Looking back now, I realised that I was quite very or totally naive. Now we had a new priest ordained in Ireland last Sunday as he’s quite similar to CM but not vindictive as him , who is about to be ordained tonight or this evening. Now you have 3 priests already ordained including CM this week, where we had 2 from last Sunday. Scottish record of ordinations looks good in comparison to Ireland. What was it that makes Scottish ordination rate looks good if even better than Ireland as that’s my question to you.
Re homosexualisation in the Cathholic Church I got a wake up call in the last few years. For example, I went to Thailand with 3 other friends of mine. There was one city I found it quite too sleazy for my liking. There was one incident that I saw re homosexual in one bar which I hadn’t expected to see it. Rem I was in new age therapies at that time as I was unaware of all its dangers. But that time, I saw inside my head that devil was grinning at that lot whom I realised it later was an evil spirit. I gradually realised over time that devil revelled in homosexual acts. It was a new insight for me, as it’s a spiritual one. I realised that I appreciated God allowing me to see this even I was in new age things. Eventually I got out of this as i renounced new age things. Now I see a creeping realisation of homosexuality of all forms in the Catholic Church. I don’t know if it will end up in schism or not. But I am more circumspect now in regards to trad society such as sppx or fssp cos I’m seeing more gay priests there now re attracted to lace, vestments and all it’s sundry, dressing up etc. I make it my business to distance from them, apart from them, just attend the mass and just get in and out in minimal time cos men could be approached by them. It’s becoming normal to see gay priests in NO mass but its spreading to TLM bit by bit as some priests jump out re transfers or move out of diocese to other societies or dioceses due to trad custodis decree. Its huge holy mess right now but I trust God will allow more people just laity people to see this more and more like he did it to me. Perhaps I could say 90% of all Scottish bishops are gay except for one.
It’s not just in Scotland, it’s everywhere. There have been cases of open homosexuals being ordained / about to be ordained in England as well. One in Leeds and two in Westminster recently to my certain knowledge, but there are probably more. We have to face the fact that the priesthood has become a ‘gay’ profession, and that a significant proportion of the bishops are probably homosexual themselves, so see nothing wrong with helping others of the same ilk to ordination.
It’s not just in Scotland…
You see, this is why we need independence. Scotland gets put down at every turn. Westminster – even our own Westminsterfly – has to demean us, as if we’re not the best at anything, even sin. Yes, I’ve come right round (or should that be “left round”) to realising that independence is the answer. 😀
Seriously, although I have to admit that you are very likely correct in your assessment of the priesthood having become “a ‘gay’ profession”, we mustn’t accept it, not for one minute. Not in the priesthood, not in society at large. The speed with which the LGBTQ+ “brand” has spread in acceptance across every aspect of daily life in Scotland (and yes, admittedly, everywhere else, darn) is evidence of diabolical activity on a massive scale.
I’m going to type out the St Michael’s prayer and suggest that we all offer it today, as often as we can manage, in the light of today’s ordination.
Holy Michael, Archangel,
Defend us in the day of battle;
Be our safeguard against the wickedness and snares of the Devil.
May God rebuke him, we humbly pray,
And do thou, O Prince of the Heavenly Host,
By the power of God,
Cast down into Hell,
Satan, and all wicked spirits,
Who wander through the world,
For the ruin of souls,
Oh I wasn’t suggesting we accept it for one moment. But it has got completely out of control now in all walks of life (not just the priesthood) and that is a fact. I was being driven through my home town yesterday afternoon (no, it was just a friend giving me a lift, I don’t have a chauffeur!) and just couldn’t believe what my town centre has become. We now have a permanent rainbow zebra-crossing, the local estate agents window display was entirely decked out with rainbow pictures, and a pedestrian-only street just off the High Street was festooned in rainbow flags, all the way down. There’s no escaping it.
Your home town sounds horrendous and it does show that there is no escaping the LGBT influence.
It goes to show that they were not being honest when they said, back in the day, that they only wanted to be decriminalised, they didn’t expect anything more. Well, that certainly took a turn, didn’t it.
I knew that you would never advocate accepting LGBTQ+++++ – that was yet another attempt of mine at humour. I’m better just sticking to the tried and tested “An Englishman, an Irishman and a Scotsman walked into a bar…” 😀
I agree with Bernie – your home town centre is being made a showpiece for the LGBTQ+++++ lobby. Maybe it’s time for some of the locals to complain. Or maybe not. Jail beckons…
Trust me – a complaint was made to my local (Lib Dem) councillor about the zebra crossing way before this ‘Pride’ month. He just held his hands up and said he wasn’t responsible for it, and that ‘it could mean what you want it to mean’. Right, in that case, I want it to mean getting the Lib Dem Council out (fat chance round here – Vincent Cable is virtually one of my neighbours) – it’s a Lib Dem bourgeois politically-correct stronghold and I loathe it here, despite at least five generations of my family being born and bred here. The sooner I can escape, the better. As for the estate agents and any shops which promote the rainbow flag – boycotted. Nothing more you can do with private concerns really.
It’s pretty much ubiquitous in the New Church. Here in Liverpool Archdiocese Archbishop McMahon has even attended the regular LGBTQabcdefg Mass that he has approved. The diocesan synod was full of “affirmation” and “inclusion” doublespeak. Not Catholic
What?!!!%%$$! An English Archbishop attending an LGBT-etc Mass? It just keeps getting worse and worse. There’s no let-up at all.
+McMahon wouldn’t be the first one – Cardinal Nichols set the trend for that.
I’m busy working on the next (August) newsletter and thought I would share this quote here:
“Evil may have its day, but to God go the weeks and the years. It must ever be so.” Father Eugene Fahy, S.J.
Unlike contemporary Jesuits, Fr Fahy is an inspiration – there’s no way he would be “going along to get along”, with the imposition of LGBTQ+ propaganda.
Standing outside a pub is he? That photo doesn`t even look real. Is the tie actually being worn or has it been superimposed? The same with the body.
What an utter and really annoying (to look at) picture when you consider what ordinary catholics in workplaces, especially in this country, have to suffer because of these criminals.
I would like to use more industrial language but obviously I am unable to (the wages would be cut) but please feel free to supply your own word in place of the word criminal.
No wonder we can`t get our families to attend church, it is getting to be too dangerous with these hoboes around.
This is absolutely shocking news. So, today a man has been ordained who is a known gay, someone who has been flung out of one seminary for openly “cruising, attending gay bars”, and will his future parishioners be told this? Or will it be covered up? I’m no longer in Motherwell diocese if but I was still there, I would expect to be told if a new priest had been living that lifestyle – even if he claims to be no longer doing so. I don’t care. I’d want to know if he ‘s that way inclined.
As for the other Paisley seminarian – Ugh! Grindr! That’s horrendous. He should be chucked out of seminary now and not permitted in the back door of any other seminary.
The Church in Scotland just stinks now. We have priests and bishops who are a counter-witness to Christ. It’s shocking.
Maybe it’s too soon, but I went onto YouTube to see if I could find a video of the ordination but there’s nothing. There’s not even a mention of it on the Motherwell website, so it’s obviously being understood as a highly controversial ordination, to say the least.
I agree that it is a total scandal. It’s unbelievable that this sort of thing can happen after all the scandals we’ve been through.
There should be a lay forum where we can formally object to this sort of thing. If they can arrange the synod meetings in parishes then they can arrange somewhere like that where we can speak openly about our discontent with these awful bishops and priests. Could Catholic Truth lead a campaign for that?
Catholic Truth IS that “campaign”. It’s the best we can do. We are kept hidden from the majority of the Catholic laity in Scotland – that’s the deliberate policy of the Scottish hierarchy. Makes one wonder of what are these men afraid? So, they will never respond to any suggestions from us about providing a platform for those whom they would label “moaners” – backward looking idiots, in their shallow minds.
Add to that the fact that the laity has never EVER been so ignorant. I mean, literally ignorant. They don’t know the half of what is going on within the Church, haven’t a clue about the fact that they are being served (or rather NOT served) by priests who have about as much Catholic faith, morality and culture about them as the nearest atheist.
Where the world leads, these laity and clergy follow – like sheep. John Henry Cardinal (now Saint) Newman points out in one of his sermons that the world is instinctively drawn to such worldlings, recognising them as its own. Words to that effect. That’s why they have it easy right now. Won’t last, though. Tragically, the world is leading them to Hell.
And if you are not inclined to believe me, believe this – Jesus’s own words referring to the first betrayer, Judas, which surely applies to all of us who, unrepentant, refusing to recognise any sin for what it is, pursue a life of grave sin; Our Lord warned that it would be better for that man if he had never been born. There’s only one reason why it would be better not to have been born and that is if our final destination is Hell.
Do you think today’s candidate for ordination (and his disgraceful bishop) will have given those words of Christ as second thought? The only words from the Gospel that they seem to remember is the exhortation not to be afraid.
My advice to both of them today is BE afraid. Very.
ED that really is what you say the biggest disgrace that the Catholic Laity who do not read this Site or other Catholic Sites are ignorant or just dont want to know . I was at N.O Mass yesterday Feast of St Peter and Paul and their was the last 2 Classes in our Catholic School at the Mass . All of the Children went to receive The Eucharist . Now am not their Teachers but if 5% of these Kids go to Sunday Mass then am being generous. As it has been said many times now of R.E in Catholic Schools ,are they even being taught the basics IE Keep The Sabbath Holy and attend Sunday Mass.
Also as far as the Guy Morris is concerned, at Latin Mass tonight i asked a few if they had heard of what was happening in Motherwell Cathedral today and none of them knew. I told them to go onto Catholic Truth and check out what was taking place which is Scandalous to say the least .
Also as regards Morton in the above Photo which was in The Daily Compost, at the time He shopped a good and faithful Priest . The TIE am sure stands for Time and Inclusive Education . Morton am sure was made their Man of the Year providing of course that they can say Man . The horrible looking TIE Morton is wearing of course went with the award. ED keep up the Great Work as your a One Man Battering Ram to these Deviants . Well of course you know what i mean. As i have said a few times, when i asked a Local Priest a few years back whom i did not have much respect for what He thought of Catholic Truth his exact words were ” They’re a shower of Heid Cases ” as soon as He said that i certainly knew He was wrong . You asked the question ” What are they afraid of ” They are exactly as you and most of us all on Here know what they are afraid of. They of course are afraid of TRUTH .
This is all unbelievable. I’ve also been onto YouTube but there isn’t any video of the Morris ordination.
Excuse my ignorance, but is there such a thing as an invalid ordination, as there can be an invalid Mass or absolution, and if so, wouldn’t this be one?
There is such a thing as invalid ordination but I think it’s more connected with a bishop who does not use the correct form of ordination rather than the wilfull ordination of an immoral man. I think on this occasion we’re in the territory of sacrilege, the abuse of a Sacrament by both the ordaining bishop and the immoral recipient.
I remember a time when young men with even the slightest inclination to homosexuality, whether celibate or not, were absolutely forbidden admittance to the priesthood. That was when Churchmen still had the faith, though, before many of them turned from Our Lord to adopt the spirit and ways of the world.
Yes, Lucifer now has quite a number of prelates, priests and seminarians in his possession in our time – and I use the word “possession” in the true sense of the word in their case. Unless there’s a drastic conversion in the lives of these ecclesiastical wretches, they will suffer eternal damnation. God is not mocked, their day will come and it will be terrible for them. Our Lady revealed this to Sister Lucy by means of reference to that chapter in the Apocalypse which describes the great red dragon (Satan) dragging a third of the stars of heaven (bishops and priests) down to earth (into apostasy).
Bishop Toal has shown his true colours on a few occasions. We have seen it in his persecution of the faithful priest Fr. Despard, with his closing down of the Traditional Sunday Latin Mass in Motherwell and Cleland, and now with the ordination of this immoral individual. God have mercy on so destructive a bishop.
Here’s a reminder of the gravity of his and bishop Keenan’s folly from St. Paul:
“…For I am not ashamed of the gospel. For it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth, to the Jew first, and to the Greek. For the justice of God is revealed therein, from faith unto faith, as it is written: The just man liveth by faith. For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and injustice of those men that detain the truth of God in injustice: Because that which is known of God is manifest in them. For God hath manifested it unto them. For the invisible things of him, from the creation of the world, are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made; his eternal power also, and divinity: so that they are inexcusable.
Because that, when they knew God, they have not glorified him as God, or given thanks; but became vain in their thoughts, and their foolish heart was darkened. For professing themselves to be wise, they became fools. And they changed the glory of the incorruptible God into the likeness of the image of a corruptible man, and of birds, and of fourfooted beasts, and of creeping things. Wherefore God gave them up to the desires of their heart, unto uncleanness, to dishonour their own bodies among themselves. Who changed the truth of God into a lie; and worshipped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
For this cause God delivered them up to shameful affections. For their women have changed the natural use into that use which is against nature. And, in like manner, the men also, leaving the natural use of the women, have burned in their lusts one towards another, men with men working that which is filthy, and receiving in themselves the recompense which was due to their error. And as they liked not to have God in their knowledge, God delivered them up to a reprobate sense, to do those things which are not convenient; Being filled with all iniquity, malice, fornication, avarice, wickedness, full of envy, murder, contention, deceit, malignity, whisperers,  Detractors, hateful to God, contumelious, proud, haughty, inventors of evil things…” (Romans 1:16-26).
As for the unfortunate creature pictured above, his priesthood is evidently dedicated to Baal!
I completely agree with your thoughts on this matter.
Athanasius, and not for the first time, goes to the heart of the problem.
The quotation from Romans shows not only how seriously — as a matter literally of life and death — St. Paul regards God and his divine revelation in Jesus Christ, and man’s response in faith thereto, but also the sheer urgency of his role as an Apostle, i.e. one charged with the divine mission of handing on sacred, salvific truth. This, I fear, may stand in stark contrast to what the two men who are the object of this article may have been exposed to in their formative years.
The Catholic Church in Scotland (that is not to say that it is better elsewhere) is not good at formation in general and catechising the young in particular. Very often the core of the faith (creation, sin, redemption, judgement, etc.) is omitted and the person of Jesus Christ presented in such a way as to leave the impression that he is a jolly good chap sent to paper over the cracks of an imperfect universe, but never quite God. At best Christ’s moral message kind of emerges, but not his being the incarnation of the Second Person of the Holy Trinity in whom God offers us his salvation exclusively. This is not a good basis on which to predicate the emergence of faithful Catholic adults let alone vocations to the priesthood or the religious life.
On to seminary/faculty of philosophy/theology. Leaving the complex question of Christian philosophy and its necessity for the pursuit of theological studies aside, which sadly is often the object of lip service, here it is very possible, not to say probable, that candidates for the priesthood will be exposed to a Truth-lite Catholicism, big on ecumenism and inter-religious dialogue, taught in such a way that Christianity will not emerge as the true religion or the Catholic Church as the one, true Church. They will not, unless they are very lucky, emerge “possessed” by Truth and the call to holiness. In other words, the zeal necessary for the priestly ministry will have either been deliberately extinguished or severely dampened. It is important to note that seminaries themselves, as the places where seminarians actually live — looking after practical formation and assisting not just the candidate in discerning his vocation, but also the Bishop in confirming it — often reinforce this lack of zeal. Strange as it will seem to pious ears, post-Vatican II seminaries can be very secularised institutions, with devotions like Eucharistic Adoration and the Rosary positively frowned upon — public recitation of the latter especially — to the point where there is no devotional life out with the Sacraments and the Divine Office. It is counter-intuitive (or perhaps not in these wicked times), but seminary superiors very often feel threatened by pious and zealous seminarians and do their best to thwart them at every turn. In this they are simply doing the Devil’s work, for in the long years of priesthood, devotions, along with personal prayer and spiritual reading, are an essential part of keeping one’s vocation on an even keel. A priest who is faithful to his breviary, who says the Rosary daily, who prays rather than says Mass (the Covid debacle, with all those live-streamed Masses, most of them dire, proved that such priests are precious few), even on his day off, will not be immune to temptation (indeed he will probably be tempted more), but he will be better protected.
On to ordination. The lack of priestly vocations will very often mean that a newly ordained priest will find himself a Parish Priest in a matter of months, which in effect means that he will find himself alone in a big house, with very little experience and with all of the dangers to which this exposes him. He needs a spiritual director, priestly support and ongoing formation, which can for various reasons be sadly lacking. In many ways it is as if he is being set up to fail.
All of the foregoing is, I believe, true, but institutional failings cannot be an excuse for rejecting the teaching of the Church which constitutes the basis on which the priesthood must be embraced. The trouble is that both inside and outside the Church, honesty is at a premium as lying in its various forms, including — most dangerously — to oneself, has become socially acceptable to the point of being erected as an art form. Politicians lie. The media lie. But not only. Tom, Dick and Harry lie too, and the consequences are truly terrible to behold as reality, including lives, is effectively destroyed.
These men need our prayers, as do seminarians, priests and bishops everywhere, but this Church of hours is dying of a lack of truth, without which there can be no charity. This is what the synodal way should be talking about.
Your analysis is faultless. I think if I were to sum it up, it’s Protestantism in the Catholic Church you describe, the fruit of Vatican II.
This is especially true with regard to sin. Protestants argue that all we have to do is believe in Jesus Christ for salvation regardless of how we live. For them, it is justification by faith alone since God understands that we’re sinners and therefore places no demands on us to stop sinning. That mindset (heresy) sums up modern Catholic Churchmen, i.e., “sin is not such a big deal, it’s faith that matters”!
This same mindset is present in prelates and clerics who frown upon pious and devotional seminarians and priests. The rosary, Benediction of the Blessed Sacrament and other such powerful weapons against the evil spirits are detested by them because, truth be told, their faith is purely humanist, not supernatural. Practices like these are offensive to non-Catholics, as are infallible dogmas such as “extra ecclesiam nulla salus”, which is why they have been silent on that dogma for 60 years. It’s not “ecumenical”, it’s divine, and they will not have it spoken about. They have Our Saviour down as a hippie, not the Divine Redeemer. No wonder the Church is in the mess it is.
Bottom line is that many in the hierarchy, and many more running the so-called seminaries, are apostates from the faith – at best heretics, at worst outright pagans. It’s not accidental that all 5 seminaries that existed in Scotland have closed down since Vatican II. Scotland is a notoriously Socialist (read Communist) country and these seminaries became a hive of Socialist activity after the Council. But as with all things Socialist, the end result is destruction. God shut the lot of them down, and rightly so.
A second thought: isn’t that pesky fellow Paul rigid?
LOL! St Paul was definitely “rigid” – goodness knows what Francis makes of him! He might get a going over once it dawns on the Pope that Paul is too rigid!
Good question Bernie. The 1961 and the 2005 Vatican documents forbid the ordination of homosexuals to the priesthood, so are these ordinations invalid? I’m not a moral theologian so can’t answer that one, but they are certainly illicit.
1961 document: https://www.ewtn.com/catholicism/library/religiosorum-institutio-2007 “Advancement to religious vows and ordination should be barred to those who are afflicted with evil tendencies to homosexuality or pederasty, since for them the common life and the priestly ministry would constitute serious dangers.”
2005 document: https://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/ccatheduc/documents/rc_con_ccatheduc_doc_20051104_istruzione_en.html “The spiritual director has the obligation to evaluate all the qualities of the candidate’s personality and to make sure that he does not present disturbances of a sexual nature, which are incompatible with the priesthood. If a candidate practises homosexuality or presents deep-seated homosexual tendencies, his spiritual director as well as his confessor have the duty to dissuade him in conscience from proceeding towards ordination.”
I would also add that those bishops who knowingly ordain a homosexual, or those who allow themselves to be ordained knowing themselves to be homosexual, would most likely incur latae sententiae excommunication, being such a grave matter.
ED that’s another reason why I cannot call Mr Toal or any other Promoting Reprobate lifestyles Bishops or Priests. These Homosexuals seem to gravitate to the Priesthood because there’s no way they would make it in a Man’s World.
And IF You promote the Reprobate Homosexual Lifestyle then your well
“If YOU promote homosexuality,,,”
But I don’t!
O ED please let me know if i posted that comment seemingly ref to yourself .
Never in 100 Years would i suspect you of promoting That Horrible lifestyle.
I of course meant the Catholic Clergy who go along with it are in with that lifestyle.
The Church not merely in our land but globally is mired in this abominable filth. The diabolical disorientation continues unabated and is Hell bent in its ultimately doomed attempt to destroy Our Blessed Saviour’s Priesthood and Priests.
One begins to wonder how much the Pope, Cardinals and Bishops themselves are compromised etc. in one way or another? thus preventing them from taking action on this as well as other matters.
Their silence and lack of zeal even moral indifference in dealing with this issue suggests something much deeper and malignant with them to my mind. The tree is known by its fruit so to speak.
I think for these individuals it is no longer considered by many of them as an objective mortal sin which cries to Heaven for redress as well as on the part of a substantive amount who live and engage in this insidiously evil culture and lifestyle.
It becomes even more uglier and malignant when they are consecrated to Holy Orders and are deliberately promoted to all levels of the Church where they may network, groom and continue their nefarious agenda of destroying the Faith, the Liturgy and Sacramental life of the Church, bringing shame and scandal to the Priesthood, the Faithful and even the world at large by promoting and protecting like minded deviants like themselves.
It’s all part of the anti Church’s relentless March to corrupt and conform the Faith to the world instead of the Church conforming the world to Christ Our Saviour.
These home grown examples continue to mirror and manifest, even remind us that this deep infiltration by the Freemasons, Modernists and all enemies of Christ and the True Catholic Faith and Church will continue until the proper consecration of Fatima is undertaken.
As far as I read about homosexual men and ordination to the priesthood, is that they CANNOT be accepted at all. I hope that the link below agrees with that. Westminsterfly, has me thinking about Bishops who knowingly ordain a homosexual, or those who know themselves to be homosexual, would most likely incur latae sententiae.
As an aside, Gloria.tv has mentioned this thread on their website.
You must mean this re-blogging of the thread over at Gloriatv https://gloria.tv/post/KTX6qpbuUHsi3tGANmciEJFYJ
I’ve just paid a visit and it has attracted visits from around the world. Thanks to Gloriatv’s “Kevin” who posted the link!
Too much verbiage in that link for my liking – I’m always wary of these self proclaimed online ‘canon law’ experts. I’d rather refer to the source documents (which I have referenced above) – issued 1961 and 2005.
Well done to you all for your comments. How right you are. The two individuals have been well discussed on the Pat Buckley blog in recent days.
Your blog is much more straight forward. Larne is two faced on this issue considering the amount of homosexuality there.
I am disgusted at the serious hostility towards Fr Despard and the tolerance of the so called Cambuslang PP. What on earth is Motherwell thinking?
I regularly comment on the PB blog. Not all of my moderate comments are published!
We should all remember that the adultery, living in sin and promoting living in sin are the issues.
The two individuals should be kicked out of seminary. The bishops have a lot to answer for.
Garngad lad, you know me from another alias on BB blog site. Had some concerns re bb blog site cos it sort of promoting or welcoming homosexuality. Even though not all of my comments were allowed cos revelatory comments that he didn’t want to expose. Agreed that this blog is more straight forward as it’s like black and white. I saw the contrast between this blog and bb blog like day and night. But bb blog is more explosive and revealing at the same time. To be honest with you, I learned more from bb blog than this blog re such revelations or shattering news re the Catholic Church in general.
The reason that Mr Toal as I won’t call him as such title. Ex gay friend of mine before I fell out with him, he told me long time ago, it’s easier for any gay to spot a gay. At first I thought it was bit of blarney but now starting to agree with him now. If any Bishop is gay then he would be able to recognise any gay seminarian by virtue of himself as gay, thus he would ordain him in order to support him and also to sustain the homosexuality network. Why am I saying this cos I’m starting to see a network now, building up from scratch at seminary level and exclude any straight aspirants then building upon block on block. Hence a structure of homosexual Church which I would call it as apostasy.
Toals’s treatment towards Despard was/is quite shocking, appalling and vindictive. Some poster on BB blog said that Despard was in battle in court with Toal as he was forced to do something. Can any poster here clarify this as it would be deeply appreciated as such. I can’t understand why won’t fr Despard go to Rome and appeal it from there. One photo of Mr Toal in BB blog yesterday had me thinking that Toal is gay. Can anyone confirm this and thank you?
I recognise your wording as that of Deaf Guy. Some of your posts get a bit muddled, especially about Cardinal Burke.
I have in the past defended you.
Keep well away from the Buckley blog. It is a ‘gay’ sewer driven by a sad individual who is not in accord with Catholic teaching. You will learn nothing more from it than who has had sex with who. CT blog, on the other hand, doesn’t shrink from hiding the unpleasant truth about what is going on in the Church today, and it has the added bonus of being in full accord with Catholic teaching.
I agree with everything you say. PB is more than a sad individual who has boulders on his shoulders.
Recently he has been having a go at street preachers. Everyone is at fault except him. He wants to be top man.
The genie is well and truly out of the bottle, and I don’t see it being put back in any time soon.
Like others here, I popped into YouTube from time to time throughout the day to see if there were any videos of the event posted but found nothing. I don’t suppose that’s too unusual but if there is no video record posted reasonably soon, I think we can take it that the clergy did not turn out in significant numbers – which would speak for itself. I wonder, too, if those who have threatened not to accept Morris as an assistant in their parishes, stick to their word. The cynic in me is a bit of a Doubting Thomas on that one. I wonder if that would pass as a mixed metaphor or just mixed up? 😀
Now, what could the bishop do about it, one wonders? The refusal to give Morris a placement, I mean, not work out the difference between a mixed metaphor and mixed-up. Silly blighters. I need to spell everything out, or there’s confusion.
Anyway, if the clergy stick to their threat and refuse their new “brother priest” a placement, what could the bishop do about it, one wonders… Oh, I know… give him a parish of his own! It wouldn’t surprise me, one bit.
So far, there is still nothing on YouTube for Chris Morris’s ordination. There is, however, a recording of the ordination of (Fr) Josh Moir, St Andrew’s & Edinburgh; he was ordained on 28th June, video posted on 29th. A round of applause to “welcome” him to the priesthood. SO Novus Ordo!
Interesting re no word on CM ordination. Noticed that gay ordination is quite more exposed in Scotland than Ireland via blogs. Nothing has been said re Ireland gave me some doubts. I knew one gay man with a disability seeking priesthood 8 years ago as he’s a TLM fan. He’s obsessed with TLM, all things and sundry. He was open with them re his sexuality. He was rejected but his last port of call was the Dominicans. He knew some religious orders favourable with gays. I asked him why, he said two words, Timothy radicliffe.
I believe Catholic laity have some power to stop it by withholding their donations or monies. ‘no moral, no donations’ could be the trump card. It could be applied in Despard situation as well.
Covid 19 situation had demonstrated that when bishops demanded to govts that lockdowns be stopped and allow the churches to reopen cos they needed the money. They were drawing down their monies from the savings instead of our weekly Sunday collections. When it came to a critical point re their savings . Hence their call to govt to reopen the lockdown and their churches as well.
Once a homosexual structure is firmly established high up in the Catholic Church then mass comes as the next target cis they don’t believe it, just their lips no heart. It’s starting now with Roche issuing various instructions. Only the Catholic laity could stop all that. A lot of noise being made in USA re this.
I was interested in your comment. I was once told by a Westminster diocesan source that he knew a young man who left not only the Dominicans (before taking vows I think) but sadly, also left the Church, because of unwanted advances made by a Dominican priest towards him. I understand he is now married with children.
An unconfirmed report has just reached me – that Rev.Gerard Chromy V.G., the Vicar General of Motherwell Diocese has resigned from his post and asked to be moved from the cathedral.
If anyone can confirm this, thank you!
I wonder if that resignation is a coincidence or if the VG has resigned because he disapproved of the ordination. I wish he’d issued a statement, if that’s the case, as it would help ease the scandal a little bit. Right now, as far as I know, no clergy have publicly said anything.
Also, I’ve checked YouTube and there’s still no video or the ordination of Chris Morris. I can’t bring myself to call him Father, BTW
Gay Scottish priesthood? What about gay Scottish civil service (as indicated by the usual depraved agenda)?
I was open-mouthed reading that report. It’s incredible that anybody would believe that guff. To quote the opening lines,
“Scottish civil servants have been instructed that biological sex is a “falsehood” which was “set by the medical establishment to reinforce white supremacy and gender oppression”.
I can only think of one thing to say to that – LOL! It’s total nonsense!
This has just arrived in my inbox – seems the English journalist Tim Stanley, an alleged convert to Catholicism and regular contributor to VIP discussion shows on mainstream TV, where he is treated as an expert in all things Catholic, considers Chris Morris his “best friend” and as such attended his ordination
I’ve briefly tried to find an email contact for Stanley but these journalists seem to think of themselves as a protected species and it’s almost impossible to contact them.
I saw that Telegraph article but I already knew that Stanley was a friend of Morris. I’ve only seen Stanley on TV a few times but I think I’m right in saying that he’s homosexual as well, so birds of a feather!
Yes, I’ve heard that as well. In fact, I’m sure I read it somewhere, but can’t recall where. The question is, is there any in the media / journalism these days who ISN’T ‘gay’?