World Chaos Traceable to the Faithless Lockdown-Compliant Catholic Hierarchy?editor
One online commentator writes…
“I have been in many an argument and not even for my views. But for the high crime of just stating that a person should investigate and question what they have been told. Use the free will that we all have been born with and do not take on face value what has been fed to us! “
“The people who are mad at you for speaking the truth are those who are living a lie!” — Anon
And just think: if the Catholic hierarchy, priests and the various religious superiors had refused to comply with the illicit closure of churches during lockdown, none of this might now be happening: Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn – More than half a century ago, while I was still a child, I recall hearing a number of older people offer the following explanation for the great disasters that had befallen Russia: “Men have forgotten God; that’s why all this has happened.”
The Catholic Faith has been lost in the hearts, souls and minds of many if not most of the clergy. That’s why they were able to close their churches to please the Government, that’s why they provided hand sanitizer and enforced mask mandates in their parishes post-lockdown. And we continue to suffer the consequences of that faithless response to “the virus”. Still, is it fair to “blanket-blame” every bishop, every religious superior, every priest given that the Pope himself was advocating full co-operation – and leading by example? What about this: every bishop, religious superior and priest will be called to account individually and very personally for his every decision on this, as on everything else. True or False? What do you think?
“ whoever defends me in the presence of men, l shall defend them in the presence of my Father, but whoever disowns me in the presence of men l shall disown them in the presence of my Father and the Holy Angels….”
I am in complete accord with your remarks on this matter.
I also think that with the exception of a handful of priests and bishops who have been a sterling example of Catholic faith and fidelity during this period the vast majority of the Catholic clergy has been mute along with a large indifferent mass of the laity.
Apart from those who have openly sinned by commission ie from the Vatican downwards., the majority have sinned by omission by their silence and complicity in acquiescence and docility regarding all the evil machinations of the Great Reset.
The supernatural Catholic Faith no longer burns brightly- if ever in their souls and they would rather align themselves with all that is vile and repugnant to God.
In doing so they incur the Divine Judgement of the Lord for their lack of fidelity to him and his Gospel.
They are by virtue of Ordination Alter Christus , and all that this sacred rite entails and requires of them.
Furthermore they have been remiss in following the highest law in the Church ie. Salus Animarum – the salvation of souls. Which ultimately is their prime responsibility.
They shall rightly stand in the presence of the Lord like you and l, and have to give an account in relation to their life and calling in the service of the Lord.
I shall pray for them that God’s Grace and mercy will be given to them when the time comes to depart this life.
I totally believe that if the Church hadn’t gone along with all the Covid nonsense, the globalists would have been stopped in their tracks.
The men, pope, bishops, priests, religious superiors who made it easy for the lockdowns and restrictions and injections to happen, all have a lot to answer for when they meet their maker.
You expect secular society to abandon God, and even panic about a virus, but you don’t expect bishops and priests to do so!
Michael & Michaela (!)
All well said – I’m quite certain that if churchmen, from the Vatican down, had objected to the global madness from the get-go, looked into the truth about “the science”, the evil-doing which brought the world to a stand-still would have been stopped in its tracks. Without a shred of doubt.
The sorry truth is that there was NO prophetic voice to warn against this global assault on our God-given freedoms. God help all those who could have acted to stem this evil, but chose to remain silent. And, worse still, chose to support the various crimes against humanity by actively supporting them – the injection being a major case in point, but all the rest, as well; travel bans, isolation, quarantines, the lot. And this against the example of Our Lord Himself who refused to respect the lockdown imposed on those 1st century lepers, despised and feared by the society of that day. Strange pope, bishops and priests who didn’t make that connection.
I have a theory that it’s the lack of the TLM and traditional sacraments that has helped caused the apostasy in the Church.
And the fact that the the pope and and some bishops are actively plotting to enable the slide into oblivion speaks for itself although I dare to say some “good” bishops think they’re doing the right thing but in their ignorance, or fear, they are helping the evil bishops to achieve their aims to decimate the Church.
Here is a link to a great new blog that is dedicated to exposing Freemasonry in the Australian church. It encapsulates the idea that the Vatican doesn’t want new priests to say the TLM.
Very sad, really!
Thank you Wardoom,
I tried to subscribe to that new blog but it wouldn’t take my email address so I emailed the administrator. He has replied to put me through the “invite” process, so I should be receiving their regular updates forthwith. It looks to be a very interesting site, so thank you for the tip-off.
Here is a quote by Padre Pio. Although we know it, it’s good to be reminded sometimes but while the crackdown on the TLM is ongoing, I expect things to get a lot worse in the very near future!
The World without the Sacrifice of the Mass is like ‘the world without the sun”. St. Padre Pio.
ED that Quote is now what is exactly wrong with this Society. The reason that most of us who come on to your great Site ( am sooking ) is that we have questioned especially these Covid Mengele Injections of which more and more Health Damage is coming up.
Personally though once the Man who Dresses up as a Pope said we should take these Injections it was a No No for me . As for our Bishops. As you say they will have to answer to God and they WILL be Judged. And that’s a Fact.
Without a doubt they will answer to God for the major role they have played in the globalists’ power grab, placing the authority of the State above the authority of Christ’s Church. Utterly shocking.
I’m not sure why the starting point is lockdowns; the problem began long before that.
We’ve all heard the expression, “The world is in the palm of God’s hand,” or some variation of that. Well, if the Church is the Mystical Body of Christ, then to some degree the world is in the palm of the Church’s hand as well, But when the human hierarchy of the Church no longer keeps their palms open in supplication, instead closing them into the fists of revolution (or cowardly surrender to revolution), then the graces that flow through the Church, for the benefit of the world, are significantly blocked.
I suppose that’s a long-winded way of affirming that “as goes the Church, so goes the world.”
I have no problem “blanket-blaming” the clergy at every level for the embarrassing, ignominious mess in which the Church finds herself. In fact, I think if Abp. Lefebvre and his group of 400 Fathers, once they understood where the Council was going, and once they understood that they were being blocked at every turn by procedural shenanigans, should have threatened to walk out. That may well have caused Paul VI and his bleeding-heart entourage to seriously re-think their agenda in a hurry. It may have been quite embarrassing to the Church, but nowhere near as embarrassing as the spineless lot we have now.
But no, “civility” reigned, and now we have a Church that is most UN-civil….to tradition.
The lockdowns are merely the latest symptom of clerical surrender. This has been going on since the 1960s, and I’m sure it will continue to get worse. For example, I’m surprised that clerical reaction to the latest “pandemic,” the monkeypox monkey business, has not resulted in renewed lockdowns. Especially since this disease is primarily due to homosexual sex. That being the case, you would think the clergy would be quite concerned….
I think we have to take our starting point from the short talk by Neil Oliver – that is what seems to be the starting point here. He has pointed out that prior to the lockdown, none of us would have believed that our governments could be malicious, not have our best interests at heart, and nor would we have believed that the Church would have allowed the governments dictate when, where and how we could worship God. That’s how I interpret this thread topic. I suppose you could argue that the starting point is always the Garden of Eden and the introduction of Original Sin but it would get very predictable, after a while, LOL!
I think it’s fair to say that if the pope and bishops had not gone along with the lockdowns and other restrictions, we wouldn’t be facing a food shortage because the governments, having seen that their social control experiment worked first time, are now emboldened to try again, by controlling the farmers and land. Going even further back, if Adam & Eve hadn’t disobeyed that one command to leave the fruit of that one tree alone, we wouldn’t be facing this government power grab, but we are where we are!
I agree with your comments about monkeypox – yes, definitely, you’d think the clergy would be very concerned!
I was responding to the thread headline, not to Mr. Oliver’s comments, which I only half agree with (that is, our naïve trust in government institutions has been destroyed. As for the remaining half, I’m no longer surprised by anything the clergy does.).
My point is that “lockdown-compliant clergy” is just the latest milestone on their slippery slope towards surrendering the Faith, which began at Vatican II. Why should Catholic (or is that “Catholic”) clergy resist governments when they don’t resist the world?
Same disease, new symptom.
And if the clergy had refused to comply with government edicts, would the lockdowns and the rest of the scam have failed? I doubt it. The freemasonic press would have immediately commenced an orchestrated campaign of shaming and intimidation in order to turn people in the pews against their own shepherds. In fact, it would have presented another golden opportunity to attack the Church.
But that’s idle speculation, at this point.
I was also responding to the headline, but after watching Neil Oliver and I think the Russian dissident hit it on the head with the statement quoted in in the intro that it is because people have forgotten God that all this has happened. I disagree with you that the scam would have gone ahead even if the clergy had not complied. I don’t think that is the case for a minute. If the Pope and Bishops had spoken out from the start, to refuse to put God aside on Government orders, close churches etc and then when re-opened treat the faithful like lepers, no, the scam would have been brought to a halt, IMHO. God’s grace would have had something to work on! It was the lack of the supernatural that enabled the evil globalists to do what they did. The problem is, the supernatural was set aside in this and that’s why it succeeded at the time. I think other factors have helped slow it down, but it’s not over yet, and Neil Oliver’s warning is well spoken. The churchmen continue to remain silent, though, and that is shocking.
Victor you most certainly would think that the Hierarchy and Monkeypox should be a Special Problem for the Clergy ,especially after listening to that Hollerich Apostate ,explain how Sodomy is no longer Sinful. For a so called Prince of The Catholic Church to use a Biblical Analogy as Stoning the Adulterer along with Sodomy is about as Morally Low as you can get. Remember also that He said the Man who Dresses up as a Pope is in full agreement with Him.
The whole Covid Lockdowns were a scandal beyond any proportion . For Children especially to lose out nearly 3 Years of their lives is to me unimaginable. I remember starting an Apprenticeship at 15. I would become a Tradesman hopefully at 21 and to me at that age 21 was and is a lifetime.
I have a niece who was really good swimmer [ i say really good ] who competed in many competitions before Covid Lockdowns like probably 1000s of other youngsters in Britain any chance of a career Etc is now gone as our Swimming Pools were shut for over 2 Years . The mental and emotional chaos as Neil pointed out will last for years . As for trust and Truth that is now gone and been replaced with wokeness. It used to make you proud to see your Children go to University but certainly no more. To have their minds filled with a load of Gender Marxism now no thanks.
Faith of our Fathers,
You are so right about the children – they have been damaged, many of them beyond repair, because of the evil lockdown policy. Some day, the people responsible for this will be brought to account, and I, for one, hope I live to see the day.
From a Church point of view, what the extended lockdowns did was to say to the faithful, albeit not in so many words, that Church and sacraments are mere accessories, and that the Christian life can be lived quite well without either. This is why, when the lockdowns ended, a lot of people simply did not return to the Sunday celebration. And who can blame them?
Of course, there were some unintended consequences which are welcome to the extent that they shone a light on the utterly dire state of both the liturgy and preaching in parish life which is now out there for all to see. While priests, especially the lazy variety of which there are not a few, delighted in their new-found YouTube stardom (‘I got thirty this morning’ — views that is, not likes — ‘How many did you get?’), the fact is that the emperor’s new clothes — i.e. the liturgical reforms made mandatory after Vatican II — were, if you will pardon the pun, exposed for what they are, that is, a collective delusion of startling proportions. Who in his right mind could honestly deny that this contrived, lowest-common-denominator, Heath Robinson contraption of a liturgy is in reality more mind-bogglingly naff than anything that went before it? To the extent that its demise and that of its votaries has been hastened by the lockdowns is, in my opinion, a matter for serious celebration.
Traditionalist Catholics are like the wee boy in the Hans Christian Andersen fairy tale. We have to say what no one else is prepared to say for fear of being thought stupid, that is, that the emperor’s new clothes are non-existent and that if we persist in believing this collective madness, the Church will be reduced to ruins in very short order, as is indeed happening before our very eyes.
But our task is not an easy one, for the various emperors in our midst are very set in their ways. ‘Always keep a-hold of Nurse / For fear of finding something worse’ seems to be the beau ideal of clerical prophesy in these strange times. Perhaps when Father has to look after ten parishes rather than the present two or three will he come to recognise that all is not well. Or do we have to wait until entire dioceses are reduced to a bishop in his cathedral, with a couple of priest assistants and perhaps a permanent deacon thrown in, all in advanced years?
Impossible? No, actually. Just go to Wikipedia and look up ‘Tulip mania’.
Would never have guessed ,it but went on to BBC News there [ good to see sometimes what the Enemy is up to ] and Top of The Billing is –U.K First Country to Roll out Double Covid Protection Jab which protects the [ Gullible ] sorry the Jabbed from both Covid 1 Variant and Joe Bidens Omnicrom Variant —. Only read the Highlights which said it would be ready before Winter. My God do they never stop i mean how many Injections are they going to make before Big Pharma and Billy Gates have enough money. Now i know i could take Covid Tomorrow ,as am in the so called High Risk Age . But i would Trust my own immune system first long before ad let any of this Garbage into my Body . On another note i called or should i say Emailed my G.P. for a check up . They said that maybe they would get back to me within 48 Hours. Maybe they think, that i think 48 Hours, is shorter than 2 Days.