Pope Francis & the “Right to Heaven” – Cool?editor
From the Catholic Herald – 28 September 2022…
In 2019 the controversial Abu Dhabi document asserted that God wills “the pluralism and the diversity of religions” in apparently the same sense that He wills a plurality of races and sexes. It was Bishop Athanasius Schneider from Kazakhstan who secured from Pope Francis an informal clarification, when the pontiff verbally conceded that God’s willing of a plurality of religions is merely permissive. There is a strange poetry, therefore, to the fact that, this month, a renewed statement on the same topic was issued by the Pope together with leaders of other world religions in Kazakhstan itself.
On September 14-15, Pope Francis attended the VII Congress of Leaders of World and Traditional Religions in the Kazakh capital of Nur-Sultan, where he formally addressed its opening and concluding sessions. During his apostolic visit, the Pope also celebrated Holy Mass for the nation’s Catholic minority population and visited clergy and religious at the archdiocesan cathedral.
Bishop Athanasius Schneider, who spoke exclusively to the Catholic Herald, reflects below on the advantages and disadvantages of gatherings of this nature, and the implications and continued ambiguities in the clarification apparently presented in its final declaration.
He also contests the idea put forward by Pope Francis and promoted by the Vatican on social media, that “everyone” has a “right” to Heaven. Click here to read the entire interview with Archbishop Schneider…
Is Bishop Schneider right in asserting that we do not have a “right” to Heaven? What??! After all these years of slogging over
a hot cooker this blog? You kidding? Please explain…
It’s more than incredible to live through this pontificate. Some people ask if he’s really the pope, but I am asking if he’s really a Catholic – frankly, I don’t think so. I went in search of others who might think the same and found this article from Lifesite, from July this year (2022)
I was struck by the remark in that article, that Francis is keeping people out of the Church. I am certain that will be the truth. He started his pontificate by telling us that atheists can get to heaven without converting to the faith and now he’s saying everyone has a right to get to heaven. It makes no sense at all. In fact, it’s downright stupid, as if God has an obligation to let everyone into heaven, because if someone has a right, someone else has an obligation to the person with that right.
Does he ever stop to think about is death and judgment, heaven or hell for all eternity – the four last things? I doubt it.
That whole interview with Bishop Schneider gives me hope for life after Francis, but it is depressing to think such an interview is necessary in the first place. A bishop correcting the pope! Who’d ever have dreamt it would come to this?
“A bishop correcting a pope…”
I’m certain as can be that this is all revealed in the Third Secret, the part still not made public. One of the cardinals said that in the Third Secret it says that the crisis begins at the top, so if it’s ever released, we’ll find out that this is all part of the Fatima prophesy.
This pope is not only anything but Catholic, he is downright stupid if he thinks there is a “right” to heaven.
And he’s not only keeping people out of the Church, I think he must be driving people who are already in it, out of it. If you’re faith isn’t all that strong to begin with, and you hear the sort of rubbish this pope speaks, then it would be all too easy to leave. I have lapsed in my family and none of them show any desire to return. He’s a joke, except he’s not funny, he’s doing so much damage.
I hate to admit it, but “stupid” is the word to describe this pope. He shows no intelligence, IMHO.
He acts like a child trying to please all the adults in the room except his mother who tells him how to behave. Holy Mother Church is the only “adult” this pope is ignoring, all the non-Christian religions get his approval.
Josephine Bergoglio maybe many things but stupid He is not ,as the $ Billions he receives from the Chinese attest to that . Of course Bergoglio is certainly not a Catholic and I even doubt if He believes in God as He certainly does not believe in The Holy Trinity. As far as we are concerned Bergoglio is now a write off and if Episcopalian Wages were better with Private Jets Bergoglio and His Homosexuals Lavender Buddies would be off quicker than you could say ” Who Am I To Judge ” . That people who declare themselves Catholic think that this Terrible Man is a Man of God is beyond probably all of us on Here.
I think we all have lapsed in our families these days, which didn’t used to be the case. When I was growing up in the sixties, we had nobody lapsed in my entire extended family. Priests and bishops (and this scandalous pope) don’t care about souls and now we know why. If we all have a right to heaven anyway, how can God refuse any of us entry, even if we’re lapsed, LOL! It’s mad, it really is.
It really is beyond a joke that we have a pope who is evidently not Catholic, doesn’t want papal authority and hates the traditional faith and Mass. There can be conditions attached to rights, you have a right to something IF this or that applies etc. so even if the right to heaven existed, it would have to be attached to something about Christ, like faithfulness to all of his teachings, not publishing a document like Amoris Laetitia which undermines his teachings etc.
All we can really do is continue to highlight his errors and refuse to accept them. God will deal with Francis in his own good time. Until then, we can only add him to the list of bad popes we’ve landed with down the centuries. I found this list which is interesting because it separates the myths from the known facts about previous bad popes. https://www.ncregister.com/blog/how-bad-were-the-bad-popes
I notice that the people who used to come onto this blog (long before I did!) and were angry about everything, have stopped coming on to defend Francis. I wonder why?
Your closing question is very interesting – I think Francis has helped awaken the papolatrists who plagued us on this blog. They now realise the truth about the extent (and limitations) of papal authority. But what a way to learn, eh? Bet they wish they’d taken our word for it and not made such public fools of themselves 😀
Still, better late to the party than miss the fun altogether 😀
I stopped listening to that Pope plus irish bishops as well. Also I stopped reading any negative news coming out such as Catholic militant.
I read book on PF aka ‘dictator pope’ and other quite flattering book on PF by Austin Iveragh.
Its about cutting off negative noises via FB, social media re Catholic news.
I wouldn’t read anything by Austin Ivereigh who is about as Catholic as… well… Papa Francis. He’s a “Francis fan” which is all we need to know to make us avoid everything he writes or says – about anything. Except maybe how to make lentil soup – my latest project…
Your comment ED reminds me of something Quoted in the Rotten Tablet about Arthur Roche. It said that Most Catholics ( whoever they are ) agree with Roche and His demolition of The Latin Mass.
A bit like taking something as True which was written in the Dandy about Dennis the Menace in the Beano .
FDS I know not if you mean Church Militant as Voris is not to everyone’s liking but He at least knows Bergoglio is not a Catholic. You can take this anyway you want but some of your comments ( at least to me ) suggest you are a Bergoglion Supporter. Correct me if I am wrong but boy you sure put up some Weird Comments for
Never a fan of PF. His dealings with Zachetta and Grassi doesn’t inspire confidence.
CM goes too far at times, also not my cup of tea. But its a Christian duty to highlight the wrongs or abuses that [Catholic churhmen] did or correct them if they are veering towards wrong path. CM did that as I commend them even though I don’t like them at times.
I assume it’s a reality that some bishop’s pet dream is to shut down CM even the Vatican curia as well. Voris has done a demolition job in some ways, which was harsh at times but necessary.
CM is like opening the veil for all of us to see the hidden rottenness [of some within the Church]. Whereas Vatican or bishops wants to keep it hidden and get the money flowing in from the parishioners all over the world.
Good luck with your pet project.
On other thread on St Michael as it was closed. So if you would allow me put in some comment.
Editor: sorry – I had to delete the comment on St Michael. The thread was up for an entire day, from midnight to almost midnight, so best to get into the habit of checking topics daily, rather than take another subject off topic. Not on…
One black mark re Austin Iveriegh was that he used to work for Cormac Murphy o Connor. He would have known Roche as well. They would have worked together in some degree in the past as I reckon. St Pio comment on CMOC said it all for me cos I didn’t know it previously.
One thing that kept repeating or recurring to me was PF might die before PBVI.
This is even more evidence of how things are on a downward spiral – this priest explains how everything good is being presented as bad by an artist on the official Synod Facebook page.
Good is evil and evil is good….sure sign of Satan at work.
Here is an in-depth analysis by Fr Z of the “art”.
Really interesting from Father Z. As for the “two candles thing” – that was a “thing” when I lived in England. I could never make sense of it. Two candles stuck side by side at one end of the table/altar. Looked ridiculous. I could never work out what that was about, so if anyone can enlighten me (pun fully intended) that would be helpful!
M. Mary Bergoglios Protestant Sinnod on Sinnodality should and I doubt it fools anyone on Here . This Garbage is all about Homosexuality and Women Priests probably even a Woman Pope as surely She couldn’t be any less of a Catholic than Bergoglio. Long ago I heard the Expression that you can tell lots about a Person by the Company they keep. Look at Bergoglios company. Bono . Greta. Roche . Cupich. Tobin and the Right Despicable Jimmy Martin. I would not go into a Room never mind a Catholic Church with any of that Mob. None of us are Saints but we do know right from wrong. We know what is Moral and what is Immoral. If that Motley Crew above know then they certainly don’t talk about it.
God Help those Catholics who still believe that those above have our best Soulful intentions at Heart. For all you Hear from them is Global Warming and save The Polar Bears.
BTW av missed you all have been laid up with Covid but I tested Negative today Thank God . Nearly 2 Weeks. It certainly leaves you weak.
God Bless All .
Sorry that you’ve been unwell. I seem to recall you had Covid previously, although I could be wrong about that since my Gift of Infallibility Certificate has been lost in the post.
Assuming you’ve had Covid before, and since we are discussing the topic of “rights”, while I have no right to ask you about your medical history, and if you don’t want to answer this, you will remain at the top of my list of Favourite Bloggers. Again, I only ask because I recall that, at the beginning of the Covid/lockdown debacle you were on the side of Doctor Knows Best Brigade, although you soon came to your senses. However, and here’s where I have no “right” to ask, but did you (before seeing the light), did you accept the “vaccine”? Were you injected? Gosh, that’s a convoluted sentence or paragraph or whatever, but I’m late for my appointment with my Friday Fish so I’ll leave it.
I ask because it seems that most of the people who are diagnosed with Covid more than once, are people who have been “vaccinated”.
So, while you have every right to tell me to take a hike, if you choose to share that piece of information, I would be grateful. If you choose not to,
I’ll never speak to you again, even in writingthat’s fine, no hard feelings. 😀
WOW! As you’d think RCA Victor (being an American) would say but didn’t. That’s utterly diabolical. WOW!
ED I tried to answer you but my comments Never went through. That’s the First time av took Covid. You were correct I did go along with the Lies at first but Bergoglio promoting the Jabs along with Billy Gates making $50 Billion made up my mind not to take it . Why my other comments didn’t go through is testimony that the Internet is still well Policed by the Left. Any on Here please take up a Good Israeli Doctors Vitamin Regime.
I don’t know where your other comments have gone, then, because they’re not in any of the admin folders, such as moderation. Thus, your wisdom is out there, somewhere, being appreciated by those lucky enough to be living in cyber space and not Planet Earth right now 😀
Anyway, I’m glad you resisted the CTI (Call to Injection, sister organisation to the CIA) – you’re likely, if not lucky enough, to be with us a while longer, then which is, er… a good thing… I think 😀
BTW Ed the Vitamin Regime that the good Israeli Doc takes is this .
4000 ICU of Vitamin D
600 Mg of Vitamin C.
Vitamin K2 to stop any Build up of Calcium due to Vitamin D.
15 Mg of Zinc.
And try and Eat Healthy Etc even a Fish Supper is good now and then.
One other thing that the good Israeli Doctor said is if you are Fat then take
6000 ICU Vitamin D.
It’s a Fact that 87% who take Covid who are Obese get it worst.
These BTW are all of the Israeli Doctors Regime. A man who has treated over 2000 Patients and not ONE was Hospitalized. This was the comments that didn’t go through earlier. ED you are also probably correct that those Injected catch Covid Worse. And some like the 37 Year old Champion Cyclist????? Well .
Positivism has it that: If we want to please God and get to heaven, we need to do what He says … . Pope Francis is not a positivist.
Pope Francis may not be a positivist, but he’s a positive pain in the neck!
This is an example of the way the Church is fracturing, led by the German bishops.
The idea of new forms of revelation is bogus. I don’t know why these modernists don’t just throw their weight behind Pope Francis’s belief that everyone has a right to heaven no matter what and forget about the fringe issues like revelation.
Does anyone else sense that the time is fast approaching when a formal schism will be declared? I can see that happening very soon. This time, the Pope will be with the schismatics!
Your headline conceals a nice little joke: no, it won’t be “cool” where the clerical apostates are heading, unless they repent.
I’m reminded of something that St Francis of Assisi said and l paraphrase – that one day the Church would be under the tutelage of a destroyer and not a pastor.
Francis is a wolf among the Catholic community (sheep). His evil confreres have allowed him into the Church (pen) of the faithful to devour and destroy. It is evident to date that this man does not believe in or support in any way shape or form the supernatural Catholic faith.
His evil machinations in word and deed by omission and commission will continue until Heaven decides to conclude his earthly existence. His successor will be no different unless Our Father in Heaven decides otherwise.
The muck and filth that these evil men are spreading within the Church, the scandal of their unorthodox doctrines and morality etc knows no bounds.
The countless souls they are dragging into Hell staggers belief, but it’s happening and we are in the eye of the storm. This is the Passion of the Church and we must walk to Golgotha as Our Blessed Saviour did during his earthly existence.
Like him the Church will rise again and we shall look upon this time as one of great trials and a profound blessing from God that we in this period of history bore witness and kept the Faith.
What we have here, as Cool Hand Luke might say, is Catholicism Lite, which is not Catholicism at all, but apostasy masquerading as Catholicism. Here’s the Protestant version:
For technical reasons I can’t watch your video right now, or, more accurately, I can watch it but not hear it, so I’ll leave it until tomorrow, when, hopefully, all manner of things will be well 😀 and I’ll get to see and hear what I imagine will be an entertaining video.