Cardinal Müller: Synod – Hostile Takeover of the Church… So Why Are The Bishops Supporting It?

Cardinal Müller: Synod – Hostile Takeover of the Church… So Why Are The Bishops Supporting It?

10 Oct 2022 “This is a system of self-revelation and is the occupation of the Catholic Church” and “the hostile takeover of the Church of Jesus Christ, which is a column of the Revealed Truth,” Cardinal Müller told EWTN host Raymond Arroyo. “This has nothing to do with Jesus Christ, with the Triune God, and they think doctrine is only like a program of a political party who can change it according to their voters.” Asked whether the Synod on Synodality is shaping up to be “an attempt to destroy the Church,” Cardinal Müller responded starkly, “Yeah, if they will succeed, but that will be the end of the Catholic Church.” He compared the state of the synodal process with the heresy of Arianism and the “Marxistic form of creating the truth,” insisting that Catholics “must resist” it.

Editor writes…

If Cardinal Müller can see that the Synod on Synodality is “an attempt to destroy the Church”, why are so many bishops going along with it, co-operating, preparing for it, praising it?  Your thoughts…  

Comments (23)

  • Marinaio Reply

    “It’s really astonishing that this is allowed under the authority of the Vatican.” So says the Cardinal who, in his waning months as Prefect for the Congregation of the Faith, was summoned by Francis one morning as the Cardinal was offering Mass. Francis was reportedly having a hissy fit about something or other from the “traditionalist” or “neo-pelagian” camp. I always wondered if Cardinal Müller was able to return to the altar to finish his Mass. Shortly thereafter, he was given his pink slip.
    Seriously, how can he be “astonished”? We are past the point of head scratching — we have been for years — and we must now do our part to help, in whatever way each of us can — to save the Church, the Spouse of Our Lord Jesus Christ. If we wait for the princes of the Church to act, we will one day get another Francis with the likes of Zuppi or Grech. Like Cardinal Burke, Cardinal Müller raises his voice from time to time to criticize this or that; but neither of those two have done what we all know needs to be done. When will they say, “Enough” and convoke and remaining cardinals for an Imperfect Council?The Dubia have slipped into the memory hole, though at the time Cardinal Burke promised to take the next steps if the Dubia remained unanswered.
    Some will say that “God will sort it all out in His own time,” but the Church has always, throughout history, faced trying times when heroes had to rise up and become the instruments of Almighty God’s Divine Will. Where are those heroes today? It may be that the hierarchy is so hobbled, so afraid of the Francis and his many (and multiplying) minions, that it will be the laity that must somehow put a stop to all of this. I don’t have the answers; I only know that we must not sit passively by, hoping that when we stand before God on that Dies Irae that we can protect ourselves against an angry God by saying, “Well, I prayed a lot for the Church.”

    October 14, 2022 at 2:55 pm
    • Josephine Reply


      I love your comment, every word – but I’ve never heard of an “Imperfect Council” so can you tell me if that is an official thing, a process of some kind that can be used in the kind of trying circumstances of the Church today? If this is a straw to clutch at, I want to clutch it!

      October 14, 2022 at 3:23 pm
      • Mary Anne

        There is such a thing as an Imperfect Council. By googling Imperfect Council and St. Robert Bellarmine one can find more. I don’t understand it all so can’t give an opinion. Some are calling the imperfect council a suggestion of St. Robert Bellarmine. I think it means a meeting of all the cardinals without the Pope present to discuss the heresy and what to do. It seems the pope has to be charged with the delict of heresy and given a chance to take it back publicly. If he doesn’t do this he is a ‘pertinent heretic’ . That doesn’t do much good if that doesn’t get rid of him. My own thought is that if WE can be excommunicated for a mortal sin of ‘whatever’ (abortion) … why can’t the Pope be excommunicated for the apparent sins of misleading the flock in so deadly a fashion. Example: The Jews are saved by the Old Testament. This is a document of Vatican ll. If we are to believe that then we must question the reason for God the Father sending His Son to earth to save man. How about the tearing of the temple curtain in two which signifies the end of the old Jewish religion. Christ came to bring us the one true religion known as Catholicism. This is surely a good topic and I would also like something like this to hang on to. They must have found something wrong with the ‘imperfect council’ theory. It sounds good to me.

        October 14, 2022 at 7:15 pm
      • Lily

        Mary Anne,

        Don’t you think it would just be another talking shop – that’s what I would worry about. Church leaders seem to love to sit around and talk about everything. It’s time for some action. I like the idea of a very public statement of warning to the pope about the way he will go down in history unless he publicly corrects his errors urgently. He should be given a deadline, say the Feast of SS Peter & Paul to answer.

        October 14, 2022 at 8:23 pm
      • Josephine


        Now that I know what an Imperfect Council is, I agree it would only be another talking shop. However, it would maybe help to draw out the seriousness of the situation with the Pope for the majority of the faithful who don’t realise how dangerous he is to the faith.

        October 15, 2022 at 12:45 pm
    • Bernie Reply


      Sr Lucia said something like you’ve said about not waiting for the princes of the Church to do something – she said something similar, that it us up to each Catholic to act to promote the Fatima Message, which is one and the same thing as ending the crisis in the Church, so I agree wholeheartedly with you, there.

      October 14, 2022 at 5:26 pm
  • Margaret Mary Reply

    The Scottish bishops are going along with the synod because they have no option, since they have been committed to supporting Francis from the beginning of his pontificate. There is a photo of him and “God bless Our Pope” on their website, and they held all the required meetings to involve parishes in the preparations for the synod, so they’re hardly going to do an about-turn anytime soon, IMHO.

    I agree with Marinaio about Cardinal Muller and I even remember reading that he was an outright liberal when he was first appointed, had some dodgy views on Our Lady. So, who knows what is going on there.

    I’ve never heard of an “Imperfect Council” but I assume it means one that is called by some cardinals, or a majority, not the Pope. I see Josephine has asked that question, so I’m looking forward to the answer, as well.

    October 14, 2022 at 3:39 pm
    • Bernie Reply

      An Imperfect Council would be pointless, because it cannot depose a pope. At best, he’d be given a warning and then it would be back to business as usual.

      What we need is just a statement to warn him of widespread disobedience – that will have the same effect but without the illusion of a “Council” which suggests authority.

      October 14, 2022 at 5:25 pm
      • Athanasius


        As much as I thoroughly enjoyed the comment of Marinaio, I agree completely with you that it is not within the power of subordinates to depose a Pope, however bad he is. St. Robert Bellarmine made that perfectly clear when he wrote that subordinates may correct a Pope and even resist him when he acts destructively against faith, but they may not judge or depose him.

        There are only three hopes open to the Church with regard to Francis: 1. He converts to the Catholic Faith by a miracle of grace by the prayers of the faithful. 2. it is proven, as suspected, that he was elected by deception. 3. He dies and the Chair becomes vacant. Those are the options.

        We need make no mistake though, Our Lord is in charge of His Church and the Gates of Hell will not prevail. The evil in the Church and the world is at its peak now, worse than at any other time in history. While this leads many to discouragement, even despair, we should understand that it’s when all seems lost that heaven will act and all will be restored. It will happen soon now, for even the Traditional life boats appear to be sinking beneath the waves.

        October 14, 2022 at 7:00 pm
      • Lily


        I keep hearing from friends about that sinking lifeboat and it’s very sad. It’s worrying how one or two priests/bishops can take everyone else off the rails. It’s depressing, actually. It’s like what was said on the other thread about obedience – when priests get power driven, they are like the salt that loses its flavour, mentioned by Jesus.

        I agree with you about the only three hopes regarding Francis. Personally, I think we’ll have to wait for option 3. Then pray hard for him. We should be praying hard for him right now, anyway, so that option 1 comes true, but I can’t see that happening.

        October 14, 2022 at 8:28 pm
      • Athanasius


        If we look at the state of the Church today, it all started with a Pope who took everyone else down the wrong road. Sadly, same as in Traditional institutions today, too few were on guard against superiors with strange ideas.

        October 14, 2022 at 11:44 pm
    • Faith of Our Fathers Reply

      M.Mary, as the ED says The Archbishop of Glasgow will go along with anything that Bergoglio says or does as He is a Company Man. I believe that truthful Comment goes along with all of the Bishops ,as they seem to think Bergoglio is the best Company C.E.O. in The World . Its a sad day when Our Catholic Church is run like a Democratic or maybe it should be Undemocratic Country .

      October 14, 2022 at 7:09 pm
  • Faith of Our Fathers Reply

    Any and all of us who have even a smidgen of The Catholic Faith knew this Sinnod was just another load of Bergoglion Garbage ,that is really Sinful beyond belief. I mean, get People who are not even Catholics to Vote on what Catholic teaching should be. Of course all of this Sinnod rubbish we know is just a smokescreen anyhow ,for Bergoglio and His Lavender Mob have already made the decisions on Homosexuality ,Transgenderism ,Woman Priests and any or more Perversions of Our Catholic Church . This good Cardinal speaking here just goes to show how Rotten now The Vatican is, as its filled with Bergoglion Heretics. We know that this Awful Man who dresses up as a Pope will NEVER have anyone around Him who doesnt agree with Him. They are rotting from the Head down to their very toes.
    I mean this ,i wouldnt take a Free Holiday in Rome if it meant meeting Bergoglio
    Of course it wouldnt happen as like many on Here i havent taken the Bergoglio Promoted Injections.
    I suppose that all on Here seen that Awful Politically Correct painted poster. One White Woman who was the Priestess. One Black Man . One of mixed race . And one white Man. It really is now getting to the ridiculous state as far as Bergoglio is concerned.
    Surely even the most Staunch Supporter of the N. O. can even see it .

    October 14, 2022 at 6:18 pm
  • RCAVictor Reply

    Here’s a news flash for you, Cardinal Muller: the “hostile takeover” of the Church happened at Vatican II, disguised as “reform,” “open windows” and “mercy.” Everything that has happened since then is just the incremental transformation of the Vatican II blueprint into reality, each lie built upon the previous lie, until we’ve arrived at a whole Tower of Lies.

    But the “successful” implementation of the Synod on Apostasy will not be the end of the Church, any more than the execution of Our Lord was the end of His life. The execution failed miserably – no, spectacularly – and so will this Synod.

    Meanwhile…as someone we call our Mother once said… “When all seems lost…”

    October 14, 2022 at 10:36 pm
    • Athanasius Reply

      RCA Victor

      I think Cardinal Meuller, Archbishop Vigano and others are just starting to realise what Vatican II symbolised for the Church. Better late than never, I suppose!

      October 14, 2022 at 11:43 pm
    • Michaela Reply

      RCA Victor,

      Please don’t be offended but this is something I always feel I have to respond to. Your description of Our Lord’s Passion and Death as an “execution” makes it seem that Jesus was a victim of the State, as if the State could have put him to death without his consent, which we know is wrong. He said himself, to Pilate, “you would have no power over me unless it was given to you by my father in heaven”.

      I know you know this, but I think language is very important and there might be people reading this page who are not knowledgeable and think that the State used capital punishment. I can’t see it that way. The actors in this real-life drama were tools, instruments of God to bring about his will for our salvation.

      I hope you don’t mind me saying this, but I’ve seen it said loads of time on TV and social media, blogs etc. and I think we need to be careful about ever appearing to give the impression that Jesus was not divine, that he was a “victim” instead of God the Son who sacrificed himself, for us.

      I do agree with you that Cardinal Muller needs to remember that the real hostile takeover happened at Vatican II – that’s an excellent point.

      October 14, 2022 at 11:46 pm
      • RCAVictor


        I’m not offended in the least, but I have to disagree. Crucifixion was the method of execution when the death sentence was pronounced for the lowest type of criminals as well as political or religious agitators in Rome. Our Lord, who was branded a “malefactor” by the Jews, was sentenced to death – by the cowardice of Pilate (albeit by His Will) – and then executed by crucifixion.

        We’ve been over this once before (maybe more), and I remember Editor correcting someone who posted that Our Lord was “murdered.” Murdered, no; executed, yes, and to me that does not imply that Our Lord was a “victim of the State,” although interestingly enough, His Presence in the Holy Sacrament of the Altar is sometimes described as “the Divine Victim.”

        October 15, 2022 at 1:38 am
      • editor


        I share your dislike of terms like “execution” and “capital punishment” but, as RCA Victor rightly points out that is, actually, what happened to Our Lord. Like you, I tend to speak only of the death of Our Lord, or Passion and Death etc., but that’s a personal thing. As RCA Victor rightly reminds us “murdered” is in a different category since that forgets that He “gave Himself up” for us, allowing the political establishment to use the legal punishment of the state against Him, to achieve God’s plan of salvation. Indeed, Christ’s words to Pilate which you quote, about his authority over Our Lord coming from God the Father, underlines the fact that the state was the instrument used by God.

        Just as God used the legal form of marriage for Our Lady and St Joseph to avoid giving the appearance of breaking the moral law, so, too, in this case, God works within His own laws of morality in the matter of the er… Passion and Death of Christ – using state execution as His instrument, as He used the first part of the legal marriage ceremony – Betrothal – as His instrument to bring the Christ-Child into the world and raise Him in a human family.

        Again, too, as RCA Victor rightly points out, descriptions of Our Lord as a divine Victim are well established in Catholic piety. As opposed to my own ongoing self-identification as a victim of computer problems these past few days. 😀 I made it back online this morning. If only to say “Hi!”

        Take note: “RCA Victor rightly points out” are not words you will often read on this blog… He’ll only demand a pay increase, so, everyone, avoid! 😀

        October 15, 2022 at 9:24 am
      • Michaela

        RCA Victor / Editor,

        I stand corrected! I see your point about God using only lawful means in his plan of salvation. I’ll remember that in future.

        October 16, 2022 at 5:02 pm
  • FDS Reply

    Synod is just a ‘distraction’ a mask to cover Vatican real problems.

    Its unbelievable to see that any Pope can change it from TLM to new mass, change death penalty, now LBTQ, as many bishops were cheerleaders. Many of the cardinals, bishops who were ordained in TLM rite VOTED for new mass. Vat2 is a pastoral Council from my recollection, nothing more or less.

    My Bishop is a careerist, fluent in Latin, German and French with a degree in Canon law. He followed Francis path or Francis orders to a tee. He then closed down all TLM from diocesan to Dominican latin rite except for one Sunday mass a week. He’s angling for another promotion even though he was just ordained 3 years ago. He was ensuring that he ticked all Vatican curia boxes to make him seen in good light in the eyes of the vatican. Well I’m considering moving to sspx which offers just 2 mass a week as they are a quite small outfit. Another one 80 miles away which offers everyday TLM masses which is bit far to me in terms of transport.

    October 14, 2022 at 11:45 pm
    • Josephine Reply


      Your bishop is a careerist? Aren’t they all!

      Most priests also seem to be careerists, you hear them boasting about their qualifications – I prefer the ordinary humble PP type who just talks about the lives of the saints and saving our souls. They seem to be a dying breed.

      October 15, 2022 at 12:43 pm
      • FDS


        My bishop is a typical careerist and young aged 50, too nice and approachable.

        Women are huge fans of him but not so re men. He’s way too nice for my liking.

        He used to work for Archbishop of Dublin as part of staff, working up brownie points for promotion which he got it eventually.

        Unfortunately, he’s a blown in and 3years as a Bishop to date. He been following Francis’s moves and following it up re orders or decree. He clamped down on TLM masses big time ranging from diocesan to Dominican (their own rite akin to TLM) from 14 weekly to 1 TLM a week. Also, he closed it down re Corpus Christi March every June as its becoming v rare now cos none since 2019.

        No time for him now after what he did re TLM. Thats modern type of any PF’s bishops that you can get it so easily nowadays.

        Catholic Church now seen as business, not spiritual whose focus is money. Knock shrine is an example of contactless kiosks stationed at main entrance of the basilica – lot of them at sideways when you walk towards inside church or going outside. So in other words, they aren’t thinking about God, just money. Knock shrine is a major money spinner for them cos they control mostly in terms of accommodation from hotel that they owned it via special trust plus hostel accommodation almost same price as hotel but with breakfast etc.

        One thing that could change their behaviour is money as that’s happening right now in Germany. Catholics have to pay ‘church taxes’ as part of income tax deductions. Have a friend there as I heard some 300k are leaving Catholic Church annually on average cos they don’t want to pay church taxes. Is that a possible reason for seismic reaction re synod in Germany?

        October 15, 2022 at 1:36 pm
  • Michael 🙏 Reply

    Dear Friends

    This malaise that has infected the minds of the majority of Bishops is clear evidence of a profound level of diabolical disorientation in the Church by the Evil One who has infiltrated the church to its very core and pinnacle.

    The evil one has clouded the intellect and will of the vast majority hierarchy to such an extent that they lack the supernatural Catholic faith, have a profound fear of the world and its woke agenda, along with a perverted desire to conform the Church and the faith to this global secular endgame.

    Only the supernatural Catholic faith can defeat this evil and supernaturally driven disorientated global disorder.

    We continue to pray, fast, acts of penance, attend mass and reception of the sacrament’s. In addition we pray the rosary daily for our blessed mothers prayers and intercessions to our Father in Heaven.

    Ave Maria

    Every blessing

    Michael 🙏

    October 15, 2022 at 4:13 pm

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