Muslims Outraged Over Damaged Qur’an… But Insulting Crucifix with Skeleton Figure, Just Fineeditor
Out for lunch with some family members a few days ago, I stopped for a moment to take a look at some objects in a shop window, horrified to spot a crucifix with a skeleton pinned to it instead of an image of the Sacred Body of Our Lord, selling for a cool £29.99.
We trooped in to the shop to complain. The young man behind the counter was Asian and it was a shop packed with fancy goods for home and hearth.
He couldn’t understand the issue until I explained that since his religion did not allow any depiction of Muhammed at all, and all Hell breaks loose if anyone dares to do so despite the fact that Muhammed never claimed to be a divine being, just a human being, we are appalled to see the crucifix with skeleton figure in his shop window because unlike Muhammed, Christ, did claim to be divine. Christians everywhere believe Him to be God. Thus to see an image of His Body replaced with a skeleton is not merely shocking, but truly blasphemous.
Nothing he could do about it, sums up the outcome of that particular theology lesson. “I just work here” was the mantra. Boss on holiday for three weeks.
I said I would wait for one month before returning to the store and if the offensive “crucifix” is still on sale and on display in that window, I will have to act, either by publicising his shop on this blog and alerting the press to it, OR… reporting it as a hate crime. In fact, this possibility didn’t occur to me until some time later and was reinforced when I saw the irrational response of the extremists in the above video. Their wild reaction to a simple accident in a primary school, where an autistic child accidentally caused some material damage to a copy of the Qur’an, speaks of mental illness – and then some. I recall the Bibles in use in GCSE classrooms across England when I taught there – tattered through years of usage, but nobody in their right mind would react violently on witnessing the results of such student carelessness. Gerragrip.
Note: This thread is not to be used to make nasty personal remarks about Muslims or Islam. For one thing, not every Muslim is to blame for that shocking crucifix. Stick to the issues, please and thank you. A key issue is…. would a claim under the hate crime legislation be taken seriously – or not?
I won’t go into what I think of Islam but it’s nice to know that The Abrahamic ( Demonic) Temple is open for Business in Saudi Arabia. Remember that was one of Bergoglios Pet Projects. Of course it’s always Catholics who have to give up Our Faith and Water it Down.
You are right – in this whole ecumenical and inter-faith dialogue thingy, it’s Catholics who have to give up our prayers and our beliefs. I’ve never heard of a rosary being recited an any of these gatherings, have you?
You are 100% correct. I have always questioned the fact that all these joint prayers with our “separated brethren” are always
Why can’t some of them, or all of them, be held in a Catholic church
and tell them they are welcome to join in the rosary, benediction and even exposition of the Blessed Sacrament.
Our church bulletin regularly invites us to join these
“brethren” in prayer in the open air down beside the beach.
It’s as if it’s our fault they are “separated”.
FOOF, Frankier, Josephine,
There was one heartening instance some years ago when a parish priest in the USA invited some Buddhists to use his church for one of their concerts/services, whatever. An SSPX priest nearby took a group of boys from their school into the church, up to the front, and announced to the (open-mouthed!) Buddhists that they were about to pray the Rosary, and the Buddhists were welcome to join in if they wish. The PP came racing into the church, demanding that the priest and boys leave but they refused. He sent for the police who asked the SSPX priest to explain himself. He said something to the effect that this is a Catholic church, we are Catholics, we wish to pray the Rosary… over to you! The puzzled police took no action.
I believe the parish priest was seen returning to his presbytery, steam coming out of his ears! In truth, I can’t remember the outcome but, steam in ears apart, the above is a fairly accurate account of the incident, as I recall it. It’s “My truth” as they say these days 😀
ED thats a great story and no doubt True. Now with Bergoglios new Bullying Law will Faithful Catholics maybe have to ask Episcopalians if their Church can be used to Celebrate the Traditional Latin Mass. After all Episcopalian Churches Etc are certainly not Diocesans Catholic Churches and it would also make Bergoglio more of a Fool if He had Roche to then announce that Catholics cannot even speak Latin far less go to Latin Mass in a Protestant Church.
Could to this Happen.?
I think that’s disgraceful for any shop to deliberately stock such an offensive item.
However, I see no mileage at all in reporting it as a hate crime. The police are too scared of the Muslims to act on it. I’d say just boycott that shop and make sure as many people as possible know about it. I know you’ve given them a month’s grace, but after that, I’d like to know the location and name of the shop – I won’t buy a thing there.
I agree that it is a disgrace to sell such a horrible anti-Christian item and also I agree that it’s pointless to pursue the hate-crime route. The cops are never going to act on this. They defend the Koran, yes, but the Bible, no.
It’s the whole “diabolical disorientation” again – everything is the opposite of what it should be right now, everything is upside down.
I understand the point about the police being afraid to act on a claim of hate crime against Muslims, but if we don’t test the legislation, we’ll never know. I say, go for it. A month is far too long to have allowed for them to stop selling that junk, but you can have the complaint ready to send.
I think that is a very good point. The whole hate-crime thing is ridiculous, IMHO, but if it’s there and we can use it to defend Christ, then we should do that.
“Some men went even further, and wished to set up in the place of God’s religion a natural religion consisting in some instinctive affection of the heart. There were even some nations who thought they could dispense with God, and that their religion should consist in impiety and the neglect of God. The rebellion of individuals and states against the authority of Christ has produced deplorable consequences. We lamented these in the Encyclical Ubi arcano; we lament them today: the seeds of discord sown far and wide; those bitter enmities and rivalries between nations, which still hinder so much the cause of peace; that insatiable greed which is so often hidden under a pretense of public spirit and patriotism, and gives rise to so many private quarrels; a blind and immoderate selfishness, making men seek nothing but their own comfort and advantage, and measure everything by these; no peace in the home, because men have forgotten or neglect their duty; the unity and stability of the family undermined; society in a word, shaken to its foundations and on the way to ruin.
We firmly hope, however, that the feast of the Kingship of Christ, which in future will be yearly observed, may hasten the return of society to our loving Savior. It would be the duty of Catholics to do all they can to bring about this happy result. Many of these, however, have neither the station in society nor the authority which should belong to those who bear the torch of truth. This state of things may perhaps be attributed to a certain slowness and timidity in good people, who are reluctant to engage in conflict or oppose but a weak resistance; thus the enemies of the Church become bolder in their attacks. But if the faithful were generally to understand that it behooves them ever to fight courageously under the banner of Christ their King, then, fired with apostolic zeal, they would strive to win over to their Lord those hearts that are bitter and estranged from him, and would valiantly defend his rights.
Pope Pius XI, Quas Primas, December 11, 1925
Many thanks for that quote from Quas Primas.
As well as the part which you highlight, the preceding reference of the Pope to people “who are reluctant to engage in conflict…” describes, absolutely, one of the key root causes of the spread of the heresy and blasphemy around us.
When I said to the young man in the store that if there was such an insulting depiction of “your religion” all Hell would break loose, he nodded and accepted the truth of it. There was another woman in the shop at the time but although she looked up when I said that, she returned to examining (for real or for surreptitious purposes!) the item in front of her whereas, assuming, perhaps wrongly, that she is at least a nominal Christian at some level, it would have helped if she/others had also expressed their righteous anger.
In short, so much timidity, as Pius XI says, from those who have been confirmed Soldiers of Christ. It’s very difficult to understand.
I personally would be very wary of asking for someone to be charged with a ‘hate crime’. The term ‘hate crime’ is an expression of the extreme-left, used as a catch-all to demonise, wrong-foot, or even prosecute, anyone who disagrees with them. We could all easily be charged with ‘hate crimes’ these days, for merely quoting sections of the Bible in public. In this case, I think in the first instance, a general complaint to the police and/or the Trading Standards Office would probably get the desired result, as it’s unlikely that the shopkeeper – especially if it’s a small business – would want any hassle from those in authority.
I take your point but is it not good to let those extreme lefties see how their laws and ideas can be turned the other way? There’s no question but that the skeleton on the cross showed hatred of Christ and Christianity.
I don’t think the police would pursue it anyway, because they are terrified of the Muslim backlash, but it is not a bad idea to let the other side see that we can detect real hatred when we see it and if they want to make it illegal to “hate”, then two can play at that game.
I’ve just found this GB News report on this “damage to the Qu’ran” story…